My New Rifle

[XLjedi]

I mentioned in another thread a few months ago that I was wanting to buy a hunting rifle. I had it narrowed down to the Remington M700 and the Browning X-Bolt. Took a long time and a lot of research but I did finally make a decision... :yep:

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/XBolt_01.JPG
I got the Browning X-Bolt, Stainless Stalker in 30-06 caliber :up:

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/XBolt_02.JPG
It's all stainless steel with black composite stock. I'll be using it to hunt deer and boar across the southern states.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/XBolt_03.JPG
The scope is a Nikon Omega 3x9-40 with bullet drop compensator (BDC) optics. Not the fanciest scope (around $250-ish) but a fairly decent one. I may upgrade to a Nikon Monarch or Zeiss Conquest at a later date... for now, this one is quite nice and more than adequate for me.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/XBolt_04.JPG
Obviously, it's a bolt action... Browning A-Bolt fans might notice there's a button there on the bolt arm that doesn't exist on the A-Bolts. It works in conjunction with the safety; you can press that button to work the bolt to load a round while the rifle is set for safety. In this pic the rifle is in safety so the bolt button is raised.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/XBolt_05.JPG
Yeah, there it is... the gold Browning Buckmark on the trigger guard. You know you've seen it on the back of countless pickups. I guess I gotta go buy some buckmark stickers now. http://xl-logic.com/emoticon/rambo.gif

[Peto]

You should be able to reach out with that one! I always like 30-06's--good all-around weapons. Call me old-fashioned though :yep: I still prefer a wood stock. I can buff the scratches out after I get out of the briar patch ;).

[XLjedi]

You should be able to reach out with that one! I always like 30-06's--good all-around weapons. Call me old-fashioned though :yep: I still prefer a wood stock. I can buff the scratches out after I get out of the briar patch ;).

No doubt, I like the walnut stock better myself... they just don't make one in a matte finish with SS. I don't care for the hi-gloss ones.

Hunter Model in Walnut (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/imagepreview.asp?cat_id=035&type_id=208)

Stainless Stalker (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/imagepreview.asp?cat_id=035&type_id=202)

[antikristuseke]

Sweet looking rifle. Allso good luck on your hunting trips, nothing tastes qutie as good as boar or moose you have shot, gutted and prepared yourself. Just made myself sallivate thinking about smoked moose meat sausages.

[SUBMAN1]

Right on! Always liked 30-06. Shot my first and only deer with one.

-S

[UnderseaLcpl]

A fine weapon! I would have gone with the Remington myself (brand preference) and I was going to suggest a Zeiss scope but I see you already mentioned that.

I wish I had a beautiful weapon like that. All I have in now are two Mosin-Nagant M1891/44 rifles and a pair of the carbine versions.
Dreadful weapons. The quality of their manufacture is apalling.:down:

[antikristuseke]

From my experience those Mosins kick like a mule, especially the carabines.

[UnderseaLcpl]

From my experience those Mosins kick like a mule, especially the carabines.

They do. And the carbines are LOUD.


I feel a little bad for the Soviet infantry.

[Happy Times]

From my experience those Mosins kick like a mule, especially the carabines.

They do. And the carbines are LOUD.


I feel a little bad for the Soviet infantry.

I cant help myself on this issue.

Finnish Mosin Nagant Rifle - FAQ's

http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/finnfaq.asp

Simo Häyhä

http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp

Forums

http://forums.gunboards.com/

There are some pristine condition and accurate weapons available in the States trough these forums.:up:

[UnderseaLcpl]

If I had Finnish mosin-nagants I wouldn't have any fun now, would I ?

In Soviet Russia, rifle aims you!:rotfl:

lame joke, sorry for that:oops:

[XabbaRus]

Can't own stuff like this in the UK :( Would love to go hunting.....

Also my dad owned a Russian made 12 bore O/U shotgun and it was really well made.

[SUBMAN1]

Can't own stuff like this in the UK :( Would love to go hunting.....

Also my dad owned a Russian made 12 bore O/U shotgun and it was really well made.

Move to the US. We have plenty of room!

-S

[jumpy]

Can't own stuff like this in the UK :(

Yes you can, actually. It's just not as easy to get as in the US...

http://www.fcsa.co.uk/ as an example.

[Steel_Tomb]

Oh man, that's a BEAUTIFUL rifle! Sometimes wish I lived in the states, not allowed anything in the UK! Should imagine its great fun stalking deer etc in the wilderness.

[Frame57]

Very nice rifle! I like synthetic stocks in that it makes the weapon lighter for carry in the field. But I do love the look of the wood stocks. Did i say "woodstock" Yikes! I better watch that. My dad was an 30-06 fan. I like the 7mm remington for longer range shooting, but that old 06 is a workhorse and is capable of taking anything on the North American continent.:up:

[RickC Sniper]

You could do far worse than that choice. I'm not a fan of stainless but it does give it a sense of style combined with that composite stock.

I like your choice of caliber considering what you intend to hunt.

Next up.....pictures of your shot groups from the range?
:up:

[mrbeast]

Oh man, that's a BEAUTIFUL rifle! Sometimes wish I lived in the states, not allowed anything in the UK! Should imagine its great fun stalking deer etc in the wilderness.

Join a local shooting club, and apply for a FAC (Fire Arms Cirtificate). Theres nothing to stop you owning anything in 30-06, .303 or 7.62 just don't set your heart on a semi-auto.

As for stalking deer, theres nothing to stop you from doing that at all, you just can't shoot it at the end; without a FAC that is and land with shooting rights.

[SUBMAN1]

You could do far worse than that choice. I'm not a fan of stainless but it does give it a sense of style combined with that composite stock....I disagree. Stainless is the best. Worked with metals for many years now and certain grades of SS can't be beat for properties, especially corrosive ones.

-S

PS. A thought just popped into my head - no worries about paint coming off on a SS gun either vs. Blue'd.

[RickC Sniper]

I've never had "paint" come off my blued guns.

[mrbeast]

I've never had "paint" come off my blued guns.

Indeed, genuine 'bluing' is a controlled form of corrosion which gives the metal a coloured patina, not a coating of any kind. The onlyway to remove it is to physically remove the top layer of the metal.

[XLjedi]

Next up.....pictures of your shot groups from the range?
:up:

Definitely!

Haven't even taken a shot with it yet. These stupid hurricanes won't let up... been raining every weekend lately, and not a good outlook for this weekend either. :down:

I'm looking forward to getting out to the range.
I picked up 3 boxes of 150gr ammo.

[RickC Sniper]

I've never had "paint" come off my blued guns.

Indeed, genuine 'bluing' is a controlled form of corrosion which gives the metal a coloured patina, not a coating of any kind. The onlyway to remove it is to physically remove the top layer of the metal.

Also I believe Stainless is just a finish.....a coating, so the metal in the bore and the rifling is still the same material, and they are still subject to oxidation unless cared for properly.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201054813AAb4vUj

.......I may be wrong on this as I did not research it well but I think it is so.

Regardless.......very very nice rifle that should last a lifetime and give much enjoyment.

[RickC Sniper]

My A-bolt before the scope was mounted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/th_DSC00614.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/DSC00614.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/th_DSC00612.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/DSC00612.jpg)


Very very bad pictures. The yellow on the stock is just glare-reflection.

This is a heavy barreled varmint gun. 22-250 caliber. Limited use but very very fun to shoot and a very flat trajectory at long range. It is far from new but holding up very very well.

[SUBMAN1]

Indeed, genuine 'bluing' is a controlled form of corrosion which gives the metal a coloured patina, not a coating of any kind. The onlyway to remove it is to physically remove the top layer of the metal.Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Yes - scratches are your enemy.

-S

PS. Now you have just created a point of rust too! SS doesn't have this problem. Or should we say, its very unlikely to rust.

[SUBMAN1]

Also I believe Stainless is just a finish.....a coating, so the metal in the bore and the rifling is still the same material, and they are still subject to oxidation unless cared for properly.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201054813AAb4vUj

.......I may be wrong on this as I did not research it well but I think it is so.

Regardless.......very very nice rifle that should last a lifetime and give much enjoyment.Maybe on a cheap SS finish. My Kimber is solid.

-S

[mrbeast]

Indeed, genuine 'bluing' is a controlled form of corrosion which gives the metal a coloured patina, not a coating of any kind. The onlyway to remove it is to physically remove the top layer of the metal.Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Yes - scratches are your enemy.

-S

PS. Now you have just created a point of rust too! SS doesn't have this problem. Or should we say, its very unlikely to rust.

Although 'bluing' looks very attractive on a gun its not a very effective rust preventative, you have to keep it lightly oiled or it will begin to rust. Oil blackening is better. Military weapons are usually either parkerised (a US favourite) or coated with a tough protective paint such as Suncorite (as used by the British Army) as these are generally superior at keeping corrosion at bay.

[Platapus]

Military weapons are usually either parkerised (a US favourite)


I have always wondered exactly was is "Parkerised". Can anyone explain it to me in small words? :88)

[mrbeast]

Military weapons are usually either parkerised (a US favourite)


I have always wondered exactly was is "Parkerised". Can anyone explain it to me in small words? :88)

Basically its a system of coating metals with a bonded layer of zinc or Manganese phosphate. There are different approaches to doing this but it usually involves lowering the parts to be coated in a heated chemical bath for a length of time, again that deopends on the specific Parkerising technique being used. The result is chemically bonded coating which is matt in finnish and resistant to ordinary corrosion. The surface is quite porous and added protection can be acheived by applying a coat of gun oil; the surface soaks it up well. Its sometimes used as a base for painted finnishes as it gives a good key for the paint to stick to the metal.

[Platapus]

Much thanks

[XLjedi]

The first hunting trip is now set. :up:

Deer Hunting - 4 days, central Georgia, Oct 24-27th
It'll already be a week into the season by the time I get there.

Hunting lease property, tree stands and a few towers. I want to say it's 100+ acres, but now I can't remember exactly, might even be bigger. Use to be lumber company property so there are lots of thin pine trees that are planted irritatingly in rows. Kinda like walking thru a forest and looking down endless long hallways. A bit of a clash between nature and symmetry.

I gotta get a GA hunting license now.

[Yahoshua]

Indeed, genuine 'bluing' is a controlled form of corrosion which gives the metal a coloured patina, not a coating of any kind. The onlyway to remove it is to physically remove the top layer of the metal.Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Yes - scratches are your enemy.

-S

PS. Now you have just created a point of rust too! SS doesn't have this problem. Or should we say, its very unlikely to rust.

Bare metal is more prone to rust than a blued firearm. Bluing is a controlled form of rust that helps to make the metal more rust resistant (I know it sounds strange but that's how it works).

Stainless steel can rust, it just doesn't rust as easily as other grades of steel.

[Yahoshua]

....Also I believe Stainless is just a finish.....a coating,....

Nope. Stainless steel is an alloyed steel containing various levels molybdenum, chromium, and nickel depending on the grade of steel (ie. 316 stainless, 416 stainless etc.)

The alloys make the steel more resistant to the effects of weather, heat, pressure, and moisture (stainless steel is often used for high-pressure steam pipes).

However, if you neglect the metals long enough it will eventually rust.

[Yahoshua]

[quote=SUBMAN1][quote=mrbeast]
....you have to keep it lightly oiled or it will begin to rust....

Any metal surface whether it's painted, blued, parkerized, cerakoted, anodized or (insert metal treatment here), if you don't apply a light coat of oil to the firearm after each handling and at least once every 6 months it will begin to rust. The oil forms a protective (and more effective) barrier against moisture from the metal surfaces on the firearm.

And good explanation on parkerizing.:up:

[OneToughHerring]

If one were to go to for example hunting for elk or moose, how much would one need to bag to either make a profit or even to break even? Yes I know it's a hobby, not counted in terms of money but still, how much? If one were to get one big moose all to oneself and would take all the meat from it, how much meat would it be? 30 kg? That meat would be high class, all natural meat and more valuable then normal meat, would be a freezer full of it.

As someone who has fished a lot with lures and some flies I can understand it from a hobby point of view but at least here the costs of hunting are so high that one would naturally think of it also from a cost point of view.

[XLjedi]

A cost-benefit analysis has never crossed my mind. If it was something that concerned me, I doubt I would've picked a $1300 rifle/scope.

I guess if you're gonna look at it that way you need to start with, "What would you have to pay for a reasonable rifle that will be able to take large game?" I think you could easily get by with something in the $500-$600 range (or lower, what's a Remington 770 selling for these days $300?).

There is an added cost (at least for me) associated with processing the meat. I'll field dress it, but a butcher is going to be carving the steaks and grinding the meat. That processing might cost somewhere in the $0.40/lb (US) range.

Might be interesting to look at it that way... total up all your hunting costs and divide it by the cost of lean ground beef to determine how many deer it will take to break even. :hmm:

[SUBMAN1]

[quote=SUBMAN1][quote=mrbeast]
....you have to keep it lightly oiled or it will begin to rust....
Any metal surface whether it's painted, blued, parkerized, cerakoted, anodized or (insert metal treatment here), if you don't apply a light coat of oil to the firearm after each handling and at least once every 6 months it will begin to rust. The oil forms a protective (and more effective) barrier against moisture from the metal surfaces on the firearm.

And good explanation on parkerizing.:up:As i said, this does not happen to my Kimber. I have never oiled the outside of the gun in all these years, which follows my quote here:

Or should we say, its very unlikely to rust.
Basically, SS is not going to rust on you or very unlikely to - but as you said, this also depends on the grade (416,316,304, etc.)

-S

[XLjedi]

If I'm not mistaken, I think the different grades of stainless also have something to do with carbon content like 420HC (high carbon). There seems to be a tradeoff between corrosive resistence and hardness or ability to hold an edge. But I dunno that might just be specific to knives.

I've got stainless steel dive knives that hold their edge well but will rust and pit within a day or two if you don't rinse the saltwater and keep em dry. My buck knife is 420HC and it seems to be a nice balance.

Actually, I haven't checked the grade of stainless on my X-Bolt. It does have some sort of a matte finish on the barrel, I don't think it's a coating though (you can see it pretty good in my 3rd picture above).

[antikristuseke]

Out of curiosity, any chanse of seeing shot group pictures before the 29th of september?

[XLjedi]

Yeah I'll try to post something in the next week or two...

I'm coaching the kids baseball team and we've got games on Saturdays. This Sunday I'm attending the South Florida Gun Show, and taking the concealed weapons course.

It might be next weekend before I can make it to the range. South Florida isn't the best place for access to public ranges either... :down:

[antikristuseke]

No rush, im just curious, will give me something to strive for on the rifle range when my military service starts :)

[XLjedi]

No rush, im just curious, will give me something to strive for on the rifle range when my military service starts :)

What? You gonna be a sniper?

I don't know if they're still handing out M1's to infantry.
Any idea what rifle you're gonna be issued?

30-06 isn't the flatest shooting round at distance.
Those 22 caliber assault carbines are a bit of a different animal.

[Puster Bill]

A cost-benefit analysis has never crossed my mind. If it was something that concerned me, I doubt I would've picked a $1300 rifle/scope.

I guess if you're gonna look at it that way you need to start with, "What would you have to pay for a reasonable rifle that will be able to take large game?" I think you could easily get by with something in the $500-$600 range (or lower, what's a Remington 770 selling for these days $300?).

There is an added cost (at least for me) associated with processing the meat. I'll field dress it, but a butcher is going to be carving the steaks and grinding the meat. That processing might cost somewhere in the $0.40/lb (US) range.

Might be interesting to look at it that way... total up all your hunting costs and divide it by the cost of lean ground beef to determine how many deer it will take to break even. :hmm:
I've done that analysis, and hunting is indeed a good deal, even if you get the meat processed.

This of course assumes that you don't buy a new rifle every year.

It's even better if you use a flintlock. I can get my 'cost per shot' down in the $0.15 to $0.20 range. Try finding centerfire hunting ammo for $4 a box.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6217/miniflint4pm.jpg

/Them new-fangled persuction guns is a fad.

[antikristuseke]

Well, at first im going to be issued an AK-4, basicaly a licence built H&K G3, they are lovingly known as boat paddles in the Estonian Defence Forces :D. If i get picked for designated marksman training I would be issued the Galatz rifle most likely if not it should be issued with the Galil AR.
So in reality the likelyhood of me getting anywhere close to a hunting rifle on the range are slim to none, but a challenge is allways good.

[XLjedi]

Well that's at least a comparable caliber to a 30-06...

Gonna be a real challenge for you though with an iron site at 100 yds. I think I'm gonna have a hefty advantage here.

I'm gonna be sitting comfortably on a shaded bench with a gun rest and 9x scope when I take my shots. You're gonna be laying on your belly using a rock or dirt mound and squinting at a tiny target through an iron site.

I'll be very impressed if you can even keep your groups inside of 5 inches.

[Happy Times]

Well, at first im going to be issued an AK-4, basicaly a licence built H&K G3, they are lovingly known as boat paddles in the Estonian Defence Forces :D. If i get picked for designated marksman training I would be issued the Galatz rifle most likely if not it should be issued with the Galil AR.
So in reality the likelyhood of me getting anywhere close to a hunting rifle on the range are slim to none, but a challenge is allways good.

Dont you have Sako TRG-42 for snipers, or are those reserved only for the cadre?
To who are the Galils reserved for?
So your counting the days now, i think its going to be a cold winter this time.:p :up:

[XLjedi]

You know I wish HK would sell a civilian model HK416, I'd love to buy one of those...

[antikristuseke]

Dont you have Sako TRG-42 for snipers, or are those reserved only for the cadre?
To who are the Galils reserved for?
So your counting the days now, i think its going to be a cold winter this time.:p :up:

The Sako might be in use with the Scouts batalion, but as far as i know they use the M14-TP as their designated marksmans rifle. The Galil is the standard service rifle for our defence forces, but the AK4 is primeraly used for training during the first three months.
And yes, im counting the days now, will go to an assembly point at 9:00 on the 29th of september and from there we get on busses and head to battalion, for me thats pretty much the most distance town in Estonia from where I live. As for the winter, it is the coldest point in estonia during winter so it should be fun if we have a proper winter instead of the mockery of a winter that was this/last year.

I live at the red dot on the map and the battalion I'll be serving in is located near Võru, at the bottom right hand corner of Estonia (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/antikristuseke/estonia_pol99.jpg)

You know I wish HK would sell a civilian model HK416, I'd love to buy one of those...

Personaly I'd love to get my hands on a G36

[XLjedi]

Personaly I'd love to get my hands on a G36

Really? ...seems to me like the 416 is a step up.

[antikristuseke]

For special forces use, I'd agree with you, but as a battle rifle for standard infantry the G36 seems a better pick for me. Which is the role i was thinking of when making that pick, on a lesser note, the G36 looks sexy :lol:

[XLjedi]

OK, as requested, here are some pics of my first range outing with the new X-Bolt.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_01.JPG
So after some initial sighting in at 50 yds I set my target down range at the 100yd mark. As you can see at the top of the picture, I'm in lane 8 which is the third target from the left.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_03.JPG
That's my gray chair there in lane 8...

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_04.JPG
There's my truck... you can see the rest of the range facility in the background, not too fancy. You can see the clay shooting lanes behind the clubhouse (the double-wide trailer) back there to the left.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_05.JPG
Walking down the range toward my 100yd targets... mine is on the left.
http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_06.JPG
Looking back toward the shooting area, you can see the back of the 50yd targets.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_07.JPG
Here's another picture of my new X-Bolt 30-06. The Caldwell Lead Sled it's sitting in is awesome. I love that thing! Using two bags of 25lb lead shot for leverage.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_08.JPG
This was my first attempt at 100yds after initial sighting at 50yds. That stray shot I think was my first shot and then we adjusted the scope a few clicks for the other shots.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_09.JPG
This was better. I didn't make any scope adjustments on any of these. The rifle shoots great! I think that one shot there that's low 2" was most likely my fault. I'm still trying to get a feel for trigger pull. I think next time I may lighten the pull a bit. I think it comes from the factory set for 3 to 3.5 pounds.

http://xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/Range_10.JPG
I posted two targets during my last round, so this was my next 6 shots after my first 5 above and I think the hotter barrel was starting to have an effect. But still, I was very happy to have my last 11 shots all fall within a 4" diameter at 100yds. That should be sufficient to kill any deer I come across in October.

I shot 40 rounds in total... you guys got to see the last 18.

[Happy Times]

Looks just like finland, maybe less trees.:D

[Platapus]

That is some good shootin at 100 yards. :up:

[antikristuseke]

You deffinately didnt set the bar low for me:up::lol:

Edit: 1,000th post, woohoo

[RickC Sniper]

3 to 3.5 pounds is pretty reasonable for a hunting rifle. If you did comepetetive shooting I'd maybe agree with lightening that, but in the field sighting game you have an adrenaline rush that might make a lighter pull a bit risky.

A very nice bench, but how do you properly shoulder the rifle and get a sight picture with all that added padding behind the stock? Just curios.

[JHuschke]

Very nice! You will kill a game animal, whichever your hunting with no doubt! I hope it works out well..I still use my old but still looking brand new .270 Custom Bolt Action Rifle. Every buck I have shot at, never missed. :rock:

.270 Bolt-Action custom
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/Drew_D93/270Bolt-ActionCustomRiflejpg.jpg


Tasco 3-9x40
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/Drew_D93/Tasco3-9x40.jpg


Scope Eye prtctr Haha..I use to have this on to keep me from getting scope eyes :dead:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/Drew_D93/Scope_EyeProtctr.jpg

[claybirdd]

go with a 180 grain soft point. best knock down round for the 30-06. (I own a remington 700ADL ) so I know from experience. Also I hate having to track down the deer I just shot.

[XLjedi]

go with a 180 grain soft point. best knock down round for the 30-06. (I own a remington 700ADL ) so I know from experience. Also I hate having to track down the deer I just shot.

Price jumps up quite a bit when stepping from 150 to 180 (or even 165, the 150 seems to be a significant price point). I took the shots above with Remington Core-Lokt Pointed soft point 150gr. Which is what I'll probably be hunting with this season.

[XLjedi]

3 to 3.5 pounds is pretty reasonable for a hunting rifle. If you did comepetetive shooting I'd maybe agree with lightening that, but in the field sighting game you have an adrenaline rush that might make a lighter pull a bit risky.

A very nice bench, but how do you properly shoulder the rifle and get a sight picture with all that added padding behind the stock? Just curios.

I don't seem to have any trouble. The picture is a little deceiving though. There's actually very little padding there, it's more like just a leather cover so the stock doesn't get scuffed. There's a solid metal back plate and the cover is more protection for the rifle than my shoulder. The kick is pretty much non-existent with all that added weight, I don't even have to seat it on my shoulder. I can just lay my cheek on the stock and reach around and pull the trigger.

It's a good question though. Since I didn't take any shots with it out of the sled, I may not have it properly sighted for my shoulder. Although, it's kinda marketed specifically for sighting rifles. I imagine I would've come across a few people that mention it sights hi/lo while in the device. I'll have to take a few shots without it next time and see...

[jumpy]

Thought you may be interested in this:

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4333/shotdiagnosisel5.png (http://imageshack.us)


It's a rough copy of the diagnostic chart used by british police advanced marksman.

enjoy your boom-stick ;)

[XLjedi]

Thought you may be interested in this:

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4333/shotdiagnosisel5.png (http://imageshack.us)


It's a rough copy of the diagnostic chart used by british police advanced marksman.

enjoy your boom-stick ;)

Yes! ...very helpful, thank you. :up:

[XLjedi]

Incidentally, I just returned from my first hunting trip with the new rifle. :up:

Had a great time! I'll try to post some pics later tonight... :yep:

[August]

Well did you get one or was it a case of "huntin" not "catchin"? :D

[XLjedi]

http://www.xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/hunting_01.JPG
It was cold in the morning... had to cover up my nose.

http://www.xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/hunting_02.JPG
...and here's the results of my 30-06 on a live target.

http://www.xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/hunting_03.JPG
She was a big doe. I watched her for about 10-15 mins before taking the shot. I was hoping maybe she had a buck following. She was alone. The left leg is just hanging loose there. The bullet mushroomed and blew apart that left shoulder.

http://www.xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/hunting_04.JPG
I dropped off the meat at the processor Monday... should be able to pick it all up tomorrow. I've asked for back straps to be cut into steaks, the hams, loins and shoulders will be ground into hamburger and Italian sausage.

http://www.xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/hunting_05.JPG
It was a clean shot. Here's the entry point on the right shoulder, the bullet mushroomed and blew apart the left shoulder and everything in between completely. ...the deer fell immediately, dead before she hit the ground.

http://www.xl-logic.com/pics/hobby/hunting_06.JPG
...spotted this turkey. Well actually, it scared the crap outta me. Came swooping down from a purch that was almost eye level with my tree stand; must've been 30 ft off the ground. I didn't know wild turkeys did that.

[August]

Good shootin youngster! :up:

You'll never taste a better steak.

[Hylander_1314]

Good shot there!

August, I like venison steaks, but after having Amerixan Bison steaks, they are truely a treat. The bison is rich, and very very tender.

Here's my favorite rifle, as it's easy to carry plenty of ammo, and the "peepsight" once dialed in is the best. I don't make long range shots.

http://www.memorableplaces.com/m1garand/

The top 2 pics are what I have now. It's a 1943 issue. I have 3 straight clips, and 2 banana clips for it. I just take out to the range now once in awhile. http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl08-e.htm

[Yahoshua]

*Nomenclature Corrections Activated*

Clips are what a girl puts in her hair, what you have in your M1 Carbine are magazines.

*Nomenclature Corrections Inactive*

[August]

August, I like venison steaks, but after having Amerixan Bison steaks, they are truely a treat. The bison is rich, and very very tender.

Yep. Since my heart attack I eat a lot of Bison because it's so low in saturated fat and it does taste pretty good.

[JHuschke]

Congrats on the doe m8, where exactly do you hunt? (State, County)

I hunt in Dawson, Georgia, but since its a little over 100 acres and half of it is a field, some in the woods we don't get much deer. We used to lease land from a farmer..but he doesn't lease it to us any more..he leases it to the "Florida Guys" :lol:
So..I am in my deerstand in the woods..to the right, in front, and behind is the woods and my land. To the left..is this. First it was a stick and a small tarp, second it was a metal pole, third is this..a thick wooden pole that will never come out of the ground.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/Drew_D93/FckinTarp.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/Drew_D93/BlueTarp.jpg

Hes so jealous that he puts a tarp on his land, to the left is his firebreak, where many deer cross..so now when a deer comes to me from the firebreak, he'll just turn around when he sees the tarp.

Pretty cold down here! I can't wait til the bucks start rutting, some already are, but they are the 6 pts and smaller.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/Drew_D93/Photo_101908_005.jpg

[fatty]

*Nomenclature Corrections Activated*

Clips are what a girl puts in her hair, what you have in your M1 Carbine are magazines.

*Nomenclature Corrections Inactive*

The internal compartment of the Garand where the ammunition is inserted is the magazine; what holds the rounds and is inserted into the magazine is the clip. Both the Springfield manual and the US Army manual refer to it as a clip.

[Hylander_1314]

*Nomenclature Corrections Activated*

Clips are what a girl puts in her hair, what you have in your M1 Carbine are magazines.

*Nomenclature Corrections Inactive*

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Magazines are what one reads while in the waiting room at the dentist's or doctor's office.

[XLjedi]

Congrats on the doe m8, where exactly do you hunt? (State, County)

I hunt in Dawson, Georgia, but since its a little over 100 acres and half of it is a field, some in the woods we don't get much deer. We used to lease land from a farmer..but he doesn't lease it to us any more..he leases it to the "Florida Guys" :lol:
So..I am in my deerstand in the woods..to the right, in front, and behind is the woods and my land. To the left..is this. First it was a stick and a small tarp, second it was a metal pole, third is this..a thick wooden pole that will never come out of the ground.



So this butthead next to you has tarped a pathway to keep the deer away from you? ...that's just wrong. :nope:

I was hunting near Fort Valley, GA.

[Yahoshua]

*Nomenclature Corrections Activated*

Clips are what a girl puts in her hair, what you have in your M1 Carbine are magazines.

*Nomenclature Corrections Inactive*

The internal compartment of the Garand where the ammunition is inserted is the magazine; what holds the rounds and is inserted into the magazine is the clip. Both the Springfield manual and the US Army manual refer to it as a clip.

Oh....the Garand.....yeah.

(CONGRATS to me!! I have landed on the square called "Dumbassery")

I saw M1 and somehow in my moronic interpretation of your post substituted carbine for the word Garand.

Yes you are correct. The Garand uses N-bloc clips. (Pats self on head for getting correct answer this time).

[Hylander_1314]

The Garand used badoleers. My WWII ARMY Uncle always called the mags for the carbine clips, and of course as a young kid, I had to ask why, and he told me of the time they were in a french barn, and the Wehrmacht had them surrounded, so he had to take his redcross stuff off and man a position, and they gave him a carbine, and told him to pass out clips to the others, if his area was clear, and grenades, and badoleers to the guys who needed them. He told me it was GI slang. So that's what I grew up calling them.

[August]

The Garand used badoleers. My WWII ARMY Uncle always called the mags for the carbine clips, and of course as a young kid, I had to ask why, and he told me of the time they were in a french barn, and the Wehrmacht had them surrounded, so he had to take his redcross stuff off and man a position, and they gave him a carbine, and told him to pass out clips to the others, if his area was clear, and grenades, and badoleers to the guys who needed them. He told me it was GI slang. So that's what I grew up calling them.

You mean "bandoleers"? The bandoleer he's talking about is a long cloth or canvas holder for the 8 round clips used by the M1.
Like so:
http://users.skynet.be/jeeper/ammop612b.jpg

[Hylander_1314]

Yep thats the ones! I had three ammo belts I used to carry while out hunting. Not trigger happy, but I like being prepared for anything like a nasty snow storm leaving me stranded, so I could still get food if needed.

[JHuschke]

Congrats on the doe m8, where exactly do you hunt? (State, County)

I hunt in Dawson, Georgia, but since its a little over 100 acres and half of it is a field, some in the woods we don't get much deer. We used to lease land from a farmer..but he doesn't lease it to us any more..he leases it to the "Florida Guys" :lol:
So..I am in my deerstand in the woods..to the right, in front, and behind is the woods and my land. To the left..is this. First it was a stick and a small tarp, second it was a metal pole, third is this..a thick wooden pole that will never come out of the ground.



So this butthead next to you has tarped a pathway to keep the deer away from you? ...that's just wrong. :nope:

I was hunting near Fort Valley, GA. Yes, he was always jealous of my family. My uncle owns this land besides him, which he pays to farm on it. He used to lease it to us, but until we shot deer he stopped leasing it to us.

These guys that come from Florida, pay him at least $1000 to hunt on his land. I've seen them walk through the firebreak, they would sit in the stand for 30 minutes, if they don't see nuthin then they leave. LOL, what a waste of money. They usually kill the baby deer and does.