Going Chrome?

[Skybird]

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html

Meanwhile, the second beta of microsofts new browser has been made available. I repeatedly read in magazines now that apparently they are now up on the same level with Firefox, whatever such comments are worth.

[Jimbuna]

Well I'll certainly be giving it a try....as long as it remains gratis :lol:

[bookworm_020]

Well I'll certainly be giving it a try....as long as it remains gratis :lol:

You bet it will! If they charged for it, the rival browsers would have a field day in overall market share!:yep:

[Letum]

What is in it for google?

[baggygreen]

I wont be until a stable version is released..

http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,24286707-5014239,00.html

[jpm1]

sounds very promising . yes there are few bugs some of them are annoying like for example concerning myself Linkagogo doesn't work but we can send a report of the bug beside that it's very fast and open source :rock:

Edit : LinkaGoGo works they treat the bugs reports very fast at Google http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/jpm1/Emoticons/pancarte_lol.gif

[TarJak]

What is in it for google?
Complete domination of the internet?

[HunterICX]

What is in it for google?
Complete domination of the internet?

Seems like it, ''all your internets belongs to us''

HunterICX

[Skybird]

for the time being it may help to break Microsoft's dominant position in that segment. They say if office installations get no longer installed on PCs, buit get called up while being located on the web, it would introduce the beginning of the end of classic operation systems. the new browser should help with regard to this new philosophy. Also Goodle wants to minimie chances of MS to challenge Google's domination with search engines by raising it's own.

Maybe one defact monopolist gets replaced with another monopolist. Is the glass of water half full or half emtpy, then?

[XabbaRus]

One thing I don't like about online apps like a word processor or excel type thing is privacy.

I launch the application from online, but how can I be 100% sure what I'm typing will be secure?

Also I am distrustful of Google as much as I am of MS. In fact I find Google more insidious given their holier than thou persona.

[Skybird]

One thing I don't like about online apps like a word processor or excel type thing is privacy.

I launch the application from online, but how can I be 100% sure what I'm typing will be secure?

Also I am distrustful of Google as much as I am of MS. In fact I find Google more insidious given their holier than thou persona.
My thoughts precisely. I also hate to depend on installations and storage areas outside my own system and home.

[kiwi_2005]

Bet me to it Skybird.

I tried Chrome earlier today and thought it ok for a beta, no crashes yet been using it most of the day and tonight. Abit thin, nothing much to see/use but what i like is its pretty sleek. Might stick with it once the full is out.

[antikristuseke]

I'll stick with Opera and wont help a large company like Google with free beta testing. If they want me to beta test, they could pay me.

[jpm1]

i don't care if it's a big company since their products are free

[Digital_Trucker]

From Chrome's EULA

11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.
Tried it, wasn't impressed (except for the speed), didn't like the Google update process running all the time, uninstalled it and still had to manually disable the Google update feature.

[jpm1]

i came back to "my" Avant browser too but i'm sure by being open source it's gonna be a cool browser

[Kraut]

I don't see what's the big deal. It's not like the internet is any different on a different browser.

[Letum]

I don't see what's the big deal. It's not like the internet is any different on a different browser.

Thats not really the point.
Roads and destinations are no different in different cars either. That doesn't mean
a £150 1980s Skoda is just as good as any other car.

[SimNut]

Is the glass of water half full or half emtpy, then?

I'd say the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.


I installed the browser, then removed it. I never granted it permanent permissions to access the web, only when I was testing it. (Comodo Firewall)

It left behind an application, googleupdate,exe which is still trying to access the web every couple of hours. That and a couple other dll's are still being loaded.

It tried to escalate it's own access level. Part of the article said it will "auto-update" as needed. I didn't see an option anywhere to turn this off. Don't know about the rest of you, but I don't allow software to automatically update until I know what it is and what is is for (except virus definition files).

I'm still looking at the sniffer captures from the install, but it looks like it sent almost as much data during the install than it downloaded. (Not just ack's, it sent data)

Being open source for the browser code is one thing. But this installed .exe's and .dll's that were locked. I don't like it and don't seel comfortable with it.

[Syxx_Killer]

I looked at the browser yesterday. I guess it could get better in the coming days, but I still didn't download it. I know Google likes to mine data from people, so I'm not gonna trust a browser from them. :88)

[Letum]

Can't check the file name of images with out faffing about.
Back to FF.

[Skybird]

I looked at the browser yesterday. I guess it could get better in the coming days, but I still didn't download it. I know Google likes to mine data from people, so I'm not gonna trust a browser from them. :88)
Yes. When thinking about that every Google-search you ever started and ever page you clicked from their result list gets stored by them for the next 50 years... I hzave started to thinik twice befor using google search month ago. Terms that eventually ever may be considered critical or sensitive, I no longer search for via Google.

They definitely do not know what protection pf privacy is. the real porblem is that more and more of espoeically the younger ones, who do not know it any different, do not even care. It seems this generation does not need any data protection acts anymore. Leaders and companies will like that attitude.

[kiwi_2005]

Some goodies in Chrome.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10032636-2.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Webware


Google's Chrome browser (http://news.cnet.com/Meet-Chrome%2C-Googles-shiny-new-browser/2009-1032_3-6246210.html) has as Spartan a user interface as possible, but the browser's Omnibox also turns out to be a window into a much more elaborate view of the browser.
That's because Chrome users can type several commands into the browser's address box to uncovers a wealth of nitty-gritty detail and an amusing Easter egg.


Firefox can be fine-tuned by typing "about:config (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_about%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:config_Entries)" into its address bar, and other about: commands (http://kb.mozillazine.org/About_protocol_links) shed light on many details. Google followed suit.
Most folks won't care a whit, but the feature is notable for programmers--both those creating Web pages and those who might want to toy with Chromium itself, the open-source project behind Chrome (http://code.google.com/chromium/). Programmers are a key audience for Chrome, which Google hopes will advance the state of the art in particular for Web applications.
One Firefox tool popular with Web developers is the Firebug extension (http://getfirebug.com/), which permits detailed analysis of a Web site. Although Chrome lacks an extensions ability for now (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10031764-92.html), right-clicking on Web page elements offers an "inspect element" option that reproduces some of Firebug's abilities.




Happy Easter
For you non-programmers, there's an Easter egg, too: type "about:internets" into the Omnibox. I'm not going to be a spoilsport by revealing what happens, but here's a hint: Ted Stevens.
Because I'm interested in browser user interface limits, though, I'm very curious what rendering technology is used to produce the Easter egg output. Feel free to offer your theories in the comments field below.
Among the "about" features:
• about:memory shows how much memory the browser--and any other Web browser--is using. Conveniently for Web developers, it also shows how much each Web site in a browser tab is using.
• about:stats shows a wide range of internal measurements such as the time taken to initialize Chrome, load Gears, or perform various operations while running JavaScript programs with Chrome's V8 engine. The page also carries the amusing note, "Shhh! This page is secret!"



• about:network tracks the detailed network activity of using a Web site. • about:version shows details of what version of Chrome is running, along with the user-agent text that the browser reports when identifying itself to Web sites. Why "Mozilla" is in this string is a mystery to me, though perhaps it has to do with the way Chrome can use Firefox plug-ins; why "Mozilla" is apparently in the iPhone's user-agent text (http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/iphone-user-agent/) is even more a mystery.
• about:histograms graphs various performance measurements such as the time taken to autocomplete text users type into the browser.
• about:crash crashes the active browser tab.
With a little noodling around, I also found out that some of these services, but not all, can be retrieved with a different syntax. Try typing "chrome-resource://about/stats" for example.
One more tidbit for folks closely following Chrome: TG Daily uncovered a so-far hidden "themes" folder (http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39181/140/) that's empty for now but that presumably could be used later to give Chrome different, well, chrome. Depending on how Google proceeds, this could be useful for adapting the browser to the native looks of Linux and Mac OS X, operating systems that Chrome will support later.

[TarJak]

Gave it a try this week and can say not terribly impressed so far. Found a number of serious bugs that mean I won't be using the beta and will wait until the

Bug #1: Problems with https addresses from behind a corporate proxy server. For some reason any https address I try to go to whilst at work (and yes it uses the same proxy config and infact internet settings as IE which works perfectly), gives a blank screen and the address params in the address bar.

Bug #2: Problems with scrolling up and down using the mouse wheel. Others trying it have not experienced this but for some reason only Chrome stops the scroll up action working on my work laptop. Every other application it works fine.

Anyway until I see some of the other little problems fixed I'll not bother with it.

[Platapus]

Anyone else a Clusty fan?

[DeepIron]

Google: Great search engine, mediocre browser.

I'm stickin' with FF3. :up:

[kiwi_2005]

I'll be dumping FF3 for Chrome, i like it. Very sleek with less clutter compared to IE/FF. Give it time and it will be a winner.

[Skybird]

The German federal office for data security (BSI) has given an official warning of Chrome over serious security concerns, saying that it should be considered as "highly critical" that private business engages in collecting so ridiculous amounts of data about private persons like Google does regarding users of Google services, and labelling it as "irresponsibly" that a browser supporting this intention hidden from the perception of users is being made available to a wide public that generally is not too aware of the technical implications of these data collection "features". The BSI strongly recommends to avoid the use of Chrome.

Just heared on radio. Saw it somewhere in a German newspaper as well. I myself have lost any interest at all and feel glad I did not even download it. I have become extremely hesitent to even use Google Search for anything not being the most unsensitive and unsuspicious search terms. Be aware that every search term your IP ever logged in, and any site you ever called up from there, is being saved to Google's internal database for half a century to come, free for them to use these data to their unlimited will and liking. that gives them an frightening amount of potential power. and it iopens a wide door of temptation to start vtrading with these data. We just have a huge scandal in Germany with personal data of 20 million people being traded freely by corproations who obviously do not have the smallest awareness of themselves doing something wrong. Included are several tens of thousands of banking account data. It's a worst case scenario here. Pandora's Box has been opened, and now nobody wants to admit that it might be impossible to close it again.

[Jimbuna]

That settles it...no thanks.