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Steel_Tomb
08-28-08, 03:31 PM
The rhetoric is starting to REALLY heat up now. Its a bit vague though, what do they mean by "intervention"? Ukraine/Georgia joining NATO/EU? NATO troops deployed to Georgia as REAL peacekeepers... not a bloody occupation force?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=67757&sectionid=351020602

If Medvedev is serious about war, then NATO should be very concerned... this man cares more for his ego and military than and peace settlement. Russia is backing itself into a corner, and when a nation such as that has nothing to loose the results can be disastrous.

AntEater
08-28-08, 03:35 PM
Then Happy Times will be happy
:up:

Seriously, what he said was if NATO attacks Abkhazia or South Ossetia (why should NATO do that?) then it would be an attack on Russia.
He also added that he doesn't believe that to be NATO's intention.
According to the russian newspaper article quoted in this iranian(!) one.
Also, this statement was made by Rogozin, the NATO ambassador.
A tough talker from a nationalist russian party and actually one of NATO's sharpest critics.
Many sources suspect he has been sent to NATO mainly to piss them off.

I think the US sent a clear message to the russians by not sending a ship to Poti.
They avoided a direct encounter of US and Russian forces.

Happy Times
08-28-08, 04:01 PM
Rogozin is a guy that has Stalins picture in his office in the NATO HQ, he is a big supporter of taking back countries with Russians minorities. Somehow i dont think he has fee hands in his role as a ambassador, he has Putins backing.

Thomen
08-28-08, 04:09 PM
At the moment, I am not really concerned about Russia. What irks me more is that Pakistan is going down the drain.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080828/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_president10_percent

The first paragraph is really telling.. hehe

AntEater
08-28-08, 04:14 PM
"10 Percent" sounds like a Ghangsta Rapper
:rotfl:

Regarding Rogozin, of course he has Putin's blessing.
This press statement was meant for internal consumption.
If such a statement would carry weight, it would've been made in front of CNN or BBC.
Also, it is just stating the obvious. If the USS McFaul were to fire some of the TLAMs it obviously carries (the VLS cells must contain some kind of ordonance after all) on targets in Abkhazia, the chances of russian citizens or soldiers getting killed would be high. Hence, this would constitute an act of war against Russia.
Kind of like "if you bomb Florida, you're at war with the US"

Rogozin used to be one of the stooges that keeps the common man happy talking strongly.
Like Zhirinovski, only less comical.
Sending such a man to NATO was a gesture equivalent to an outstretched middle finger.
Kind of like sending Donald Rumsfeld as ambassador to France.

No matter what you think of Putin. This is not Yeltsin. If Russia goes to war, it is because Putin or Medvedev (I wouldn't dismiss him so easily) wants to, not because some drunken moron feels threatened.

mapuc
08-28-08, 05:10 PM
Good old cold war?

Last night I saw this old movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG2aJyIFrA

Hope it will stay there-as a movie

Markus

Skybird
08-28-08, 05:30 PM
At the moment, I am not really concerned about Russia. What irks me more is that Pakistan is going down the drain.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080828/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_president10_percent

The first paragraph is really telling.. hehe

:up: good man!

Pakistan - most dangerous place on earth.

Happy Times
08-28-08, 05:40 PM
At the moment, I am not really concerned about Russia. What irks me more is that Pakistan is going down the drain.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080828/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_president10_percent

The first paragraph is really telling.. hehe

:up: good man!

Pakistan - most dangerous place on earth.

Posted this on another forum, maybe we should have a Pakistan thread also.

Taleban winning war, says Zardari

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7580093.stm

cobalt
08-28-08, 07:26 PM
The west is trying to wake a giant that has been sleeping for 15 years ];

geetrue
08-28-08, 07:36 PM
Too much oil money, causing this friction. When Russia had economic problems they hardly issued a peep, but money equals power.

Power to build a stong military force of Army, Navy, Airforce ... history is full of mistakes that men have made.

I hope Putin doesn't go down in the history books of having made another big mistake like others before him.

Jimbuna
08-29-08, 09:21 AM
Good old cold war?

Last night I saw this old movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG2aJyIFrA

Hope it will stay there-as a movie

Markus

Rgr that matey http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif