Pelosi censors poster of troops

[SUBMAN1]

Why would she do this?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/21/EDCQ12GB1S.DTL

-S

[cj95]

Anybody got an actual image ofd the poster?

I cant find it anywhere?

[Sailor Steve]

I don't know; maybe because she's a zero-sum, single-minded, one-sided, two-faced, double-dealing triple-threat four-flusher who wants to put us all behind the eight-ball?

Just like the rest of them.

[Frame57]

I hope she chokes on a cannoli...:dead:

[SUBMAN1]

Pelosi just strikes me of someone that is an off the wall instant decision maker without really thinking her decisions through completely. Imagine if Bush and Cheney both died - she would be our president with this kind of mindset. Scary.

-S

[Frame57]

Could not agree more. you should check out a book called "Liberalism is a mental disorder". By Savage. In it he makes a very good observation of what makes the left wing tick.

[JoeCorrado]

Pelosi just strikes me of someone that is an off the wall instant decision maker without really thinking her decisions through completely. Imagine if Bush and Cheney both died - she would be our president with this kind of mindset. Scary.

-S
Uh, that would be John McCain.

As far as THIS story goes though, I absolutely disagree with removing the posters and would have gone the opposite direction from Pelosi and instead placed posters of EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN who had lost their life due to the Iraq War throughout the halls of Congress. I would have made it so that you could not walk 10 feet without being reminded of those who gave the final measure due to the Bush Folly called the War in Iraq. You best believe it!

And then we would be having a discussion about the Republicans and Bush forcing their removal on the grounds that it was a political statement by the Democrats... and he would be right because that would be exactly what it would have been.

Instead, Pelosi (who is against the War in Iraq just like Mr. Jones is today) did what she would have been forced to do anyway- ask that the posters be removed.

I disagree with not being able to display the ten commandments in front of the county courthouse, I disagree with a lot of things and I disagree with removing the posters too. But that is the law as it stands today.

Sometimes you don't get to do the easy thing, the thing that you might otherwise want to do. Sometimes, as a leader you have to do the thing that the law requires and if Mr. Jones would learn that lesson- then he will be the better for it.

I say change the law and place posters of all of our fallen soldiers throughout the halls of Congress and remind those who support the war, or starting the next one... that there that there is a price for their folly and that THEY are not the ones footing the bill.

But hey, that's just me.

[Sailor Steve]

Could not agree more. you should check out a book called "Liberalism is a mental disorder". By Savage. In it he makes a very good observation of what makes the left wing tick.
I've listened to Mike Savage. I think he's a mental disorder himself.

I guess I just don't like extremists of any persuasion. Even when I agree with some of their charges.

[Digital_Trucker]

And she used compliance with the Americans With Disabilities Act to justify taking the poster down? That's appropriate since she's most assuredly "mentally challenged" like all the rest of them (politicians, that is).

@JoeCorrado I would suggest that we take that one step further and post names and pictures of all US Soldiers killed in every war that this country has ever participated in regardless of which party was "in power" when the war started or why we were involved in it. This would be a totally apolitical display and perhaps would make the "rulers" of our country think at least once about doing it again (no matter what party they belong to). BTW, how is honoring the dead soldiers of the mans constituency a political statement? Some of those folks were undoubtedly Democrats. Granted, I haven't seen the poster either, and if it indeed had some political statement, then it should have been moved inside his office, perhaps.

[AVGWarhawk]

Oh come on guys. Pelosi is just trying to save the world. Obama was sent by God according to her. That poster was a banner, flag or device. Anyone can see that. Well, Pelosi can. I think she needs our backing.....way back. How this women got to the position she holds is beyond me. She has a running record of doing some very stupid things. This is just another. Anything she says or actions she takes does not surprise me anymore. When I see the 'Pelosi' in the media my first word that comes to mind is 'useless'.

[SUBMAN1]

Oh come on guys. Pelosi is just trying to save the world. Obama was sent by God according to her. That poster was a banner, flag or device. Anyone can see that. Well, Pelosi can. I think she needs our backing.....way back. How this women got to the position she holds is beyond me. She has a running record of doing some very stupid things. This is just another. Anything she says or actions she takes does not surprise me anymore. When I see the 'Pelosi' in the media my first word that comes to mind is 'useless'.You forgot your capital U in Useless! :p Got to over emphasize that one!

-S

[JoeCorrado]

Oh come on guys. Pelosi is just trying to save the world. Obama was sent by God according to her. That poster was a banner, flag or device. Anyone can see that. Well, Pelosi can. I think she needs our backing.....way back. How this women got to the position she holds is beyond me. She has a running record of doing some very stupid things. This is just another. Anything she says or actions she takes does not surprise me anymore. When I see the 'Pelosi' in the media my first word that comes to mind is 'useless'.
Congressman Jones has any posters that he wishes in his office.

The public spaces are not an appropriate place to allow either personal nor political displays by members of Congress. The posters in question would open the door for any and all content by any and all other members of Congress. You can imagine the possibilities.

A special dispensation for this instance may be approved for this particular case when Congress Reconvenes. I hope that it is.

I am not very impressed with Pelosi or Jones for that matter, but quite frankly I believe that we have bigger fish to fry than this petty bickering.

[Platapus]

She is not a good representative of the Democratic party thats for sure. I still can't figure out why the Democrats choose her to be the Speaker of the House. :nope:

Frankly she is one of those people who just instinctively annoy people :yep:

[Frame57]

Could not agree more. you should check out a book called "Liberalism is a mental disorder". By Savage. In it he makes a very good observation of what makes the left wing tick.
I've listened to Mike Savage. I think he's a mental disorder himself.

I guess I just don't like extremists of any persuasion. Even when I agree with some of their charges.He is brilliant and is right more often than not on issues. People do not like him because he is loud and brash. But I think the time of playing nice is over for this country.

[Stealth Hunter]

Pelosi just strikes me of someone that is an off the wall instant decision maker without really thinking her decisions through completely. Imagine if Bush and Cheney both died - she would be our president with this kind of mindset. Scary.

-S

With Bush and Cheney alive, it's scary...

Why are you making so much fuss over a poster with troops on it? Jesus...:roll:

[Platapus]

Evidently this has been part of an ongoing problem

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/372083_hallways25.html

This also appears to be a continuation of Rep Jones' disagreement with the house on how to honour the dead solders.

http://jones.house.gov/release.cfm?id=692

While this specific poster may not be objectionable it appears from other stories that Rep Jones has had other posters outside his office that did break the house rule.

The new policy went into effect April 17 after approval from Pelosi, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., and House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. They sit on the commission that oversees much of the Capitol complex.

The new clean-up rule was designed to make it easier for staffers and tourists to flee the building in case of an evacuation and make it easier for people using wheelchairs to navigate congressional corridors."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...allways25.html


And this isn't the first time that Jones has been told to remove his posters.

"While the GOP held the House majority in September 2004, Reps. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) and Walter Jones (R-N.C.) were asked to remove hallway military memorials. Both Emanuel and Jones refused to take them down."

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...008-05-14.html

There is always two sides to the political coin.

[Sailor Steve]

Could not agree more. you should check out a book called "Liberalism is a mental disorder". By Savage. In it he makes a very good observation of what makes the left wing tick.
I've listened to Mike Savage. I think he's a mental disorder himself.

I guess I just don't like extremists of any persuasion. Even when I agree with some of their charges.He is brilliant and is right more often than not on issues. People do not like him because he is loud and brash. But I think the time of playing nice is over for this country.
He's brilliant and he's right because he agrees with you. "Playing nice" is the only thing we have that sets us apart from them. True, you have to take a hard line, but his is sometimes over the edge.

[Digital_Trucker]

The new clean-up rule was designed to make it easier for staffers and tourists to flee the building in case of an evacuation and make it easier for people using wheelchairs to navigate congressional corridors."
This is the part I have trouble with. I mean, really, how much easier is it going to be for anyone to maneuver a wheelchair through the congressional corridors because they removed a stupid poster from the wall?:hmm:

If they want to make a rule to not have displays of any kind on the walls of the hall, make it such, but don't use the accessibility rules or OSHA compliance to justify it.

[AVGWarhawk]

The new clean-up rule was designed to make it easier for staffers and tourists to flee the building in case of an evacuation and make it easier for people using wheelchairs to navigate congressional corridors."
This is the part I have trouble with. I mean, really, how much easier is it going to be for anyone to maneuver a wheelchair through the congressional corridors because they removed a stupid poster from the wall?:hmm:

If they want to make a rule to not have displays of any kind on the walls of the hall, make it such, but don't use the accessibility rules or OSHA compliance to justify it.

Exactly DT, it was removed because someone did not agree with it thus squelching the idea of free speech to boot. Using the two rules noted above as just cause is stretching it quite a bit.

[Frame57]

Could not agree more. you should check out a book called "Liberalism is a mental disorder". By Savage. In it he makes a very good observation of what makes the left wing tick.
I've listened to Mike Savage. I think he's a mental disorder himself.

I guess I just don't like extremists of any persuasion. Even when I agree with some of their charges.He is brilliant and is right more often than not on issues. People do not like him because he is loud and brash. But I think the time of playing nice is over for this country.
He's brilliant and he's right because he agrees with you. "Playing nice" is the only thing we have that sets us apart from them. True, you have to take a hard line, but his is sometimes over the edge.Lou Dobbs brings up many of the issues that savage does (90% or so). The difference is personality. They were right about the Dubai ports deal. They are right about illegal immigration. How many talk show radio guys do you know that have sent money to aid our imprisoned border patrol agents? He was right about the source of ecoli tainted produce and where it came from even while the FDA sat on the fence about it. He does not pander to the republicans like El Rushbo does. Still like Rush but he seems to have sold his soul to the party. I do not recognize the party I supported for many years. Come over to the dark side Steve, you will love it here:D

[SUBMAN1]

With Bush and Cheney alive, it's scary...

Why are you making so much fuss over a poster with troops on it? Jesus...:roll:Bush is the man in charge, and watching him speak, you know he thinks his thoughts through carefully before talking into the mic. This is who I'd want on the red button when the time comes - someone who thinks, and then makes a very tough call.

Pelosi however is the type that would push the button because Putin didn't like the perfume she was wearing. This is of course after she called him an idiot for not knowing it's some $10K bottle of elephant seal balls, I mean hormones! :p:D

I think the rest of the posts in this thread will answer the rest of your questions a lot better than I can.

-S

[mrbeast]

Bush is the man in charge, and watching him speak, you know he thinks his thoughts through carefully before talking into the mic. This is who I'd want on the red button when the time comes - someone who thinks, and then makes a very tough call.-S

Subman, did you cut and paste that off a Bush-Cheney campaign ad from 4 years ago or what? ;) :D

[Platapus]

Bush is the man in charge, and watching him speak, you know he thinks his thoughts through carefully before talking into the mic.
:rotfl:

You are killing me Subman1 !!
:rotfl:

Come, on be serious for a moment.

"I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office."—Washington, D.C., June 26, 2008
http://mfile.akamai.com/5913/wmv/whitehouse.download.akamai.com/5913/2008/06/20080626-9.v.asx

"Throughout our history, the words of the Declaration have inspired immigrants from around the world to set sail to our shores. These immigrants have helped transform 13 small colonies into a great and growing nation of more than 300 people."—Charlottesville, Va., July 4, 2008
http://mfile.akamai.com/5913/wmv/whitehouse.download.akamai.com/5913/2008/07/20080704.v.asx

There are many good things you can say about Bush, but thinking before speaking is not one of them.

Name me another President that has created such a large industry for reporting gaffs and malapropisms?

[Digital_Trucker]

Well, Gerald Ford did a pretty good slapstick routine:D