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Skybird
08-24-08, 04:08 AM
this may not sound spectacular, and it does not provide the news with bright lights and loud sounds, but it is more worrying than the worst suicide attack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/24/afghanistan

Schroeder
08-24-08, 04:41 AM
As long as the Afghani authorities are corrupt to the bone nothing will change.
The only hope for the coalition was to win the hearts of the people, but with corrupt authorities who are only thinking of themselves this will never happen.:down:

The Taliban know this and use this for their advantage.
I don't think we actually can do change down there as long as incompetent egoists are in charge for the official government.
Besides ,as long as the locals aren't willing to fight for themselves or are even welcoming the Taliban our mission is lost.:dead:

Jimbuna
08-24-08, 08:47 AM
I don't ever see a solution that the west desire coming about here.

It would appear that the people are not totally opposed to the Taliban way of ruling...so what is the answer/solution :hmm:

Bruno Lotse
08-24-08, 08:50 AM
this may not sound spectacular, and it does not provide the news with bright lights and loud sounds, but it is more worrying than the worst suicide attack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/24/afghanistan
Taliban's trojan horse
Trojan horse. Hm, are you implying Karzai government officials here?
Hm. Who picked up woods to build that horse? Hm...

Intelligence estimates obtained by The Observer
conservatively place the strength of the Wardak Taliban
at about 800 lightly armed men, split into dozens of different factions.

Though significant, such a force should be easy for
the 70,000 heavily armed soldiers of the coalition to destroy. But it isn't.

And those 800 lightly armed men do not have supplies or any support from guys from Langley.
Just imagine what would happen should Taliban have it as it used to be say 30 years ago.


<<Follow the main road back towards the Afghan capital
and in 15 minutes you will be at the narrow pass
in the ring of craggy, dusty hills around the city
known for centuries as 'the Gates of Kabul'.

If there is a front line between the insurgents and the government,
it is here, just a dozen miles south of the capital.
There is no clear front line, of course - which is part of the problem.>>

a dozen miles south of the capital - is that all what is left from
the "Project Democratic Afghanistan"?:hmm:



What Afghani would say to this situation (mess?) or at least some of them.

Inhabitants of the Afghan province Kabul would like to live under 'communism'.
http://www.rian.ru/world/20080520/107851660.html

Kabul May 20th 2008
The majority of inhabitants of Afghan province Kabul would like to live under
deposed and murdered by Taliban Dr. Nadzhibullah's regime - show results
of telephone poll conducted by 'Abbadi Weekly' on Tuesday.

The cell phones of Afghans received a message with a question
'Which political regime of past and present times would you consider
to be the most corresponding to your interests?"

About 10,000 Afghans sent their replies to this week-long poll.

'Communist' regime of Dr. Nadzhibullah turned out to be the winner
For 93,2% respondents, against 1.2%, abstained - 5.6%.

Yes, these are cell-phone owners.
So, one might argue respondents were Afghans who are not only with beards but also with brains.

Digital_Trucker
08-24-08, 09:32 AM
I don't know if the expresion "bag of knots" is valid in English but I think it's a good illustration.

I think that expression about sums it up. :up: