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August
08-22-08, 10:22 AM
Funny but oh so true... :D

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/650gxotg.asp?pg=1

Letter to Our European Friends
Everything you need to know about our presidential campaign.
by P.J. O'Rourke

America is in the midst of an all-important electoral campaign. But, talking to Europeans, I've discovered that there is puzzlement and misinformation on your continent about what's happening on ours. Europeans feel an understandable confusion when faced with a political system consisting of two houses of Congress and a White House, and nobody is home in any of them.

Also, America's political parties are indistinguishable to the European eye. A British journalist once described the situation thus: "America is a one-party state, but just like Americans they've got two of them." (I forget which British journalist said that. But there are so many British journalists who should be forgotten. Maybe it was Alexander Cockburn.)

The difference between American parties is actually simple. Democrats are in favor of higher taxes to pay for greater spending, while Republicans are in favor of greater spending, for which the taxpayers will pay. In foreign policy, Republicans intend to pursue the war in Iraq but to do so with a minimal number of troops on the ground. This is not to be confused with the disastrous Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld policy of using a minimal number of troops on the ground to pursue the war in Iraq. Democrats intend to end the war, but they don't know when. Democrats are making the "high school sex promise": I'll pull out in time, honest!

There are two factors in American politics that may seem strange to Europeans, race and religion. You, of course, don't have any religion. Except every now and then someone who came to Europe lately and is a Muslim blows himself to bits. But I understand that you have EU funding to address these social problems and help Muslims build bombs that release fewer pollutants and less carbon dioxide, reducing the threat of global warming.

After the events of the 20th century, God, quite reasonably, left Europe. But He's still here in the United States. The majority of Americans are Christians, and Christians can be divided into two kinds, the kind who think you should get Jesus and the kind who think Jesus is going to get you. Mike Huckabee is one of the latter. Then there are the Mormons such as Mitt Romney who believe some unusual things--things that no sensible European like Jean-Paul Sartre, Martin Heidegger, Benito Mussolini, Karl Marx, Emanuel Swedenborg, or Cherie Blair would ever believe.

The question of race in America is supposed to be a matter of what one looks like. But it is difficult to comprehend how a political interest group that contains both Al Sharpton and Halle Berry could be based on looks. Barack Obama looks like he was raised in Hawaii. He may have just a good tan.

The number of American presidential candidates varies with the sunspot cycle and the phases of the moon. Being a Republican, I'm backing Hillary Clinton. Because she could lose. The reason is not that she's a woman. The reason is that she's the particular woman who taught the 4th grade class that every man in America wished he were dead in. Hillary Clinton is Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. Hillary Clinton is "America's ex-wife."

A man can be a Democrat to the core, going into the voting booth to pull the lever with the donkey label no matter what. Then he sees Hillary's name on the ballot. And it all comes back to him .  .  . the first marriage .  .  . the time he came home a little late, it wasn't even midnight, and he'd only had four or five beers, and she threw his bowling ball down the storm sewer.

The Republicans will have a hard time coming up with someone who can't beat Hillary Clinton. But I don't put it past them. You may remember Senator Bob Dole in 1996.

At the moment Republicans seem inclined to John McCain. Everyone loves John McCain. Everyone respects John McCain. He's tough. He's consistent. He's wrong. Not that I personally agree with you Europeans that John is wrong, but the voters do. John thinks the war in Iraq is a good idea. The electorate doesn't. John's campaign slogan is "Strong and Wrong."

Mitt Romney is supposed to be my own type of candidate, a true conservative. But Mitt was governor of Massachusetts. This is like applying to be pope and listing your prior job experience as "Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem."

Mitt Romney is also the "corporate candidate," promising to bring the organizational skills and fiscal discipline of corporate America to Washington. But we are in the midst of a global credit collapse and all the air is hissing out of the world's equity market balloons. We've had big corporate scandals--Enron, WorldCom, Tyco--in the not too distant past. We may have a deep recession in the not too distant future. Is this the moment to be pitching the voters on "business savvy"?

Rudy Giuliani is a wonderful person to have around during a tragedy. His campaign promise is that there will be a tragedy every week.

As for Fred Thompson, he didn't have much impact. Yes, he's a Republican who was seen on TV a lot. But so was Scooter Libby.

Mike Huckabee lost some support among the hard-core fundamentalists when Bible Belt denizens realized that John McCain was the only candidate with enough guts to really handle rattlesnakes at church. The rest of the public remains alert to the fact that evangelical Christianity, as a movement, has two faces--the Moral Majority face and the Tammy Faye Bakker face.

Let us not forget Ron Paul who is very popular--with people who stay up all night in Ayn Rand chatrooms, bury Krugerrands in the yard, and think the Trilateral Commission causes sub-prime mortgage foreclosures.

Incidentally, there's a balanced position that all of America's presidential candidates could take on the controversial abortion issue. If they want votes they shouldn't campaign to make abortion illegal or legal. They should campaign to make it retroactive. If a kid reaches 25 and he or she is still jobless, feckless, and sitting around Starbucks acting like a--no offense--European, then whack.

Meanwhile, in the Democratic field, Barack Obama may be altering our national political equation. Obama is an indication that America has reached an important benchmark in race relations. In America it is now officially more important to be cute than to be white. Barack Obama is cute, and he's nice. It's been a long time since any political party in America had the cute, nice vote sewn up. Rudy Giuliani? Not so nice. Bill Clinton? Don't get cute.

The problem for Obama is that, as yet, he doesn't have much political stature. However, there is a "Disney factor" is American politics. Think of America's politicians as the Seven Dwarves. They're all short--short on ethics, short on experience, short on common sense, short on something. But we keep thinking that one of these dwarves is going to save our snow white butt.

We've got Dopey right now. We had Sleazy before him. Grumpy lost in '04. Sleepy was great in the 1980s, but he's dead. How about Obama?

Who else do the Democrats have? There is, of course, Nobel Peace Prize-winning Al Gore. May I ask you Europeans, are your Norwegians crazy? What does the Nobel Peace Prize have to do with global warming? Did Al forge a truce in the war with the penguins? I'm trying to lead a carbon-neutral lifestyle myself. I've given up cigars. I think Al Gore should give up blowing smoke out his .  .  .

John Edwards is a personal injury lawyer, the sort of fellow who covers North Carolina with billboards reading, "Y'all May Have Been Malpracticed on by a Doctor and Not Even Know It. Call (800) S-H-Y-S-T-E-R." One of the remaining virtues of European civilization is that you aren't overrun with his ilk. John Edwards should go sue Krispy Kreme doughnuts for making his supporters too fat to get into the voting booths.

Dennis Kucinich swept the Mars caucuses.

Then there are the Democrats who're actually qualified to be president--Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, and Chris Dodd. All three have dropped out of the race. Before they did, they managed, between them, to raise almost $1,000 (2.79 euros) for their campaigns.

This leaves the Democrats with Hillary Clinton. She's going to reform America's health care system. Memo to Hillary: You already reformed America's health care system, 15 years ago. Just the outline of Hillary's 1993 health care plan was 1,400 pages long, almost as long as that equally successful reform document, the EU constitution.

Many political analysts say that the failure of Hillary's health care plan almost destroyed Bill Clinton's first term. You'll recall that Bill Clinton had to seek help from a different woman to almost destroy his second term.

But no matter who is elected America's next president--whether Barack Obama, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, or even Ron Paul--it is important that Europeans be reassured that ordinary Americans will not change the way they think about Europe. They will continue to think they aren't sure where it is on the map.

Happy Times
08-22-08, 10:40 AM
Joe Biden would make a great president, shame.

Digital_Trucker
08-22-08, 10:43 AM
I have to say, that of that entire piece, the "Disney factor" part was the closest to being true:rotfl:

August
08-22-08, 11:24 AM
PJO has a lot of gems.

For example:

"The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it."

"Whenever there's injustice, oppression and suffering, America will show up six months late and bomb the country next to where it's happening".

:D

SUBMAN1
08-22-08, 12:00 PM
This part cracked me up!:

Who else do the Democrats have? There is, of course, Nobel Peace Prize-winning Al Gore. May I ask you Europeans, are your Norwegians crazy? What does the Nobel Peace Prize have to do with global warming? Did Al forge a truce in the war with the penguins? I'm trying to lead a carbon-neutral lifestyle myself. I've given up cigars. I think Al Gore should give up blowing smoke out his .  .  .

Fish
08-22-08, 12:23 PM
Typical:
They will continue to think they aren't sure where it is on the map.
There is, of course, Nobel Peace Prize-winning Al Gore. May I ask you Europeans, are your Norwegians crazy? ;)

Jimbuna
08-22-08, 12:35 PM
Letter to our American Cousins ;)

To the citizens of the United States of America, in the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up revocation in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up aluminium. Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix ize will be replaced by the suffix ise. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation.

Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up vocabulary. Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up interspersed. There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of -ize.

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney,upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as Taggart will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is Devon. If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become shires e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as Men Behaving Badly or Red Dwarf will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, God Save The Queen but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American football. There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American football is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays American football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders,your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called rounders, which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called Indecisive Day.

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time,you will go metric with immediate effect and conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer,and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. The substances formerly known as American Beer will henceforth be referred to as Near-Frozen Knat's Urine,with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine. This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen,Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From November 10th the UK will harmonise petrol (or Gasoline, as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon- get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

16. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your co-operation and have a great day.

Gordon Brown

Herr_Pete
08-22-08, 12:53 PM
Jimbuna. That letter made my day:lol: LMFAO

Digital_Trucker
08-22-08, 01:03 PM
I can at least agree with number 15, it's been driving me crazy, too:up:

Jimbuna
08-22-08, 01:16 PM
LOL ;)

Platapus
08-22-08, 01:55 PM
"America is a one-party state, but just like Americans they've got two of them."

"The difference between American parties is actually simple. Democrats are in favor of higher taxes to pay for greater spending, while Republicans are in favor of greater spending, for which the taxpayers will pay."

Honestly that pretty much sums up American Politics. :up:

The problem with the Republican and Democratic parties is that they are all full of politicians. If we could get a political party that was not full of politicians we might have a chance.

Enigma
08-22-08, 02:00 PM
PJ is a great writer :up:

August
08-22-08, 02:52 PM
Letter to our American Cousins ;)

Every month you lobsterbacks post that and every month you forget the fact that you didn't grant us anything we took our independence from you and stuck a stick in King Georges crazy eye. It's the one thing Democrats and Republicans can actually agree on.

Digital_Trucker
08-22-08, 03:05 PM
Don't get touchy, if it wasn't for Frenchs you guys over there would still speak english !
Uh wait... :lol:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:We don't speak English, we speak American , or in my neck of the woods, redneck dialect.

Jimbuna
08-22-08, 03:11 PM
Letter to our American Cousins ;)

Every month you lobsterbacks post that and every month you forget the fact that you didn't grant us anything we took our independence from you and stuck a stick in King Georges crazy eye. It's the one thing Democrats and Republicans can actually agree on.

Not sure what the referencs/term 'lobsterback' is about, but let's be honest here......give us a little credit for allowing you at least one topic your able to agree with yourselves on.

nikimcbee
08-22-08, 03:14 PM
Don't get touchy, if it wasn't for Frenchs you guys over there would still speak english !
Uh wait... :lol:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:We don't speak English, we speak American , or in my neck of the woods, redneck dialect.

no it's called 'merican

@ jimbuna

Give Steed and we'll call it even:x .

Red Heat
08-22-08, 03:17 PM
Great leter Jimbuna...you make my day, too!
You too Mikhayl... :lol:
Im a Europen citizen and i want to stay that away...so what happen out of Europe its not my problem and i personaly i dont care! :up:

STEED
08-22-08, 03:44 PM
KNICKERS :p

Jimbuna
08-22-08, 04:57 PM
I'll have you know I've nicked nowt.....but when it comes to knickers, I'll make an exception :lol:

mrbeast
08-22-08, 05:01 PM
KNICKERS :p

Ah Steed, I see you've gone all Father Jack on us again! :hmm:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak99hCiu-Ao&feature=related

Platapus
08-22-08, 06:32 PM
Hey you Brits!

If it were not for the Americans in the 1940's you all would be driving German and Japanese cars.



oh :oops:
:rotfl:

Frame57
08-22-08, 06:48 PM
Brits are cool. They smoke fags, or so I have been told.:D

Herr_Pete
08-22-08, 11:30 PM
Driving German cars isn't a bad thing though

Red Heat
08-23-08, 12:56 AM
Driving German cars isn't a bad thing though

I full Agree...Herr_Pete even Japonese cars isnt so bad, right? :lol: :lol: :lol:

nikimcbee
08-23-08, 03:10 AM
KNICKERS :p

Great, now I've got to get my Queen's English dictionary out and look up what Steed is talking about now.:roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MCRmkUGpUc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaJoLgsuvxw&feature=related

Nikimcbee's first attempt to communicate with Steed in England:
(Jimbuna also makes an appearence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN9mP2_1A-c

nikimcbee
08-23-08, 03:12 AM
KNICKERS :p

Ah Steed, I see you've gone all Father Jack on us again! :hmm:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak99hCiu-Ao&feature=related

@mrbeast,
I see your from Bolton...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2A6UJEj81k&feature=related

August
08-23-08, 04:03 AM
No, no no. "Lobsterback" was an an American term (circa 1776) for a British soldier. It refers to their red uniform jackets.

Oh and:

"FECK, DRINK, ARSE!"

:cool:

Stealth Hunter
08-23-08, 04:06 AM
"Honour, Colour, Drunkee, Bosche"

YOU BASTARDS! YOU'VE BUTCHERED THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE (New English, anyway).

kurtz
08-23-08, 05:14 AM
There are two factors in American politics that may seem strange to Europeans, race and religion. You, of course, don't have any religion. Except every now and then someone who came to Europe lately and is a Muslim blows himself to bits. But I understand that you have EU funding to address these social problems and help Muslims build bombs that release fewer pollutants and less carbon dioxide, reducing the threat of global warming.

Love it, makes it sound like quite a charming hobby.

@Nikimcbee I went to university in Notlob sorry Bolton.

Jimbuna
08-23-08, 05:56 AM
KNICKERS :p

Great, now I've got to get my Queen's English dictionary out and look up what Steed is talking about now.:roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MCRmkUGpUc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaJoLgsuvxw&feature=related

Nikimcbee's first attempt to communicate with Steed in England:
(Jimbuna also makes an appearence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN9mP2_1A-c

hehehehe :lol:

Jimbuna
08-23-08, 06:10 AM
No, no no. "Lobsterback" was an an American term (circa 1776) for a British soldier. It refers to their red uniform jackets.

Oh and:

"FECK, DRINK, ARSE!"

:cool:

Now I understand :yep:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xlsemeZI0

STEED
08-23-08, 06:26 AM
@nikimcbee

My answer

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=_-AVDeLNC0M

STEED
08-23-08, 06:43 AM
Is this rude?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YvZYBcQsfms&feature=related

Sailor Steve
08-23-08, 08:04 AM
Yes indeed, P.J. O'Rourke is the Will Rogers of our day.

Sorry Jim, but I agree with August: as much as I like that 'Britain' post, I see it everywhere, all the time.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=138781&highlight=Sovereign+Majesty+Queen+Elizabeth+resume +monarchical+duties+states

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131085&highlight=Sovereign+Majesty+Queen+Elizabeth+resume +monarchical+duties+states

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131085&highlight=Sovereign+Majesty+Queen+Elizabeth+resume +monarchical+duties+states

Well, the last one's a couple of year old, but three times in six months?:p

Jimbuna
08-23-08, 08:57 AM
Yes indeed, P.J. O'Rourke is the Will Rogers of our day.

Sorry Jim, but I agree with August: as much as I like that 'Britain' post, I see it everywhere, all the time.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=138781&highlight=Sovereign+Majesty+Queen+Elizabeth+resume +monarchical+duties+states

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131085&highlight=Sovereign+Majesty+Queen+Elizabeth+resume +monarchical+duties+states

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131085&highlight=Sovereign+Majesty+Queen+Elizabeth+resume +monarchical+duties+states

Well, the last one's a couple of year old, but three times in six months?:p

I was wondering about his response for a second or so :hmm:

Never realised it had been posted before :nope:

The first link is from a German national, but I'm afraid your other two are one and the same links ;)

August
08-23-08, 10:43 AM
I was wondering about his response for a second or so :hmm:

I was just funnin' ya, i just forgot the darn smiley! :dead:

Jimbuna
08-23-08, 01:54 PM
I was wondering about his response for a second or so :hmm:

I was just funnin' ya, i just forgot the darn smiley! :dead:

I know that....you didn't see me hiding did ya http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/img134/3995/newshy222ul3cg8.gif

Besides.....it'll cost ya a beer at the SS meet http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/c_jane24/Smileys/lager.gif

mrbeast
08-23-08, 02:01 PM
KNICKERS :p

Ah Steed, I see you've gone all Father Jack on us again! :hmm:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak99hCiu-Ao&feature=related

@mrbeast,
I see your from Bolton...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2A6UJEj81k&feature=related


Yes I am indeed from notloB......errr..... Bolton!:D

Great Python vid.:up:

That opening view actually is of Notl....I mean....Bolton, I recognise the town hall sticking up in there middle. I live near the hills on the other side of town opposite from where that shot is was taken from.

I'm not sure about the gangs of elderly ladies roaming the streets, though I have seen quite a few rough looking women roaming Bolton town centre on a Friday or Saturday night! :lol:

mrbeast
08-23-08, 02:03 PM
There are two factors in American politics that may seem strange to Europeans, race and religion. You, of course, don't have any religion. Except every now and then someone who came to Europe lately and is a Muslim blows himself to bits. But I understand that you have EU funding to address these social problems and help Muslims build bombs that release fewer pollutants and less carbon dioxide, reducing the threat of global warming.

Love it, makes it sound like quite a charming hobby.

@Nikimcbee I went to university in Notlob sorry Bolton.

Kurtz, who would have thought I'd find someone else familiar with little old Bolton on Subsim!:up:

How long ago were you at uni in Bolton?

Sailor Steve
08-23-08, 03:23 PM
[The first link is from a German national, but I'm afraid your other two are one and the same links ;)
Okay, I'm old and blind. But it was there before. I know it was. Trust me. It was.

kurtz
08-23-08, 07:42 PM
There are two factors in American politics that may seem strange to Europeans, race and religion. You, of course, don't have any religion. Except every now and then someone who came to Europe lately and is a Muslim blows himself to bits. But I understand that you have EU funding to address these social problems and help Muslims build bombs that release fewer pollutants and less carbon dioxide, reducing the threat of global warming.
Love it, makes it sound like quite a charming hobby.

@Nikimcbee I went to university in Notlob sorry Bolton.
Kurtz, who would have thought I'd find someone else familiar with little old Bolton on Subsim!:up:

How long ago were you at uni in Bolton?

I'd have to check my cv for exactitude but.

1974 to 1978 Bolton Tech for City and Guilds Instrumentation and control

1978 to 79 Bolton Institute of technology T5 instrumentation etc.

'79 to '82 Bsc Hons Electronic engineering

According to my father who was on the railways Bolton is always about 2 degrees colder than anywhere near it. On my course we had a guy from Torquay (the English Riviera!) who spent 3 years in a permanent state of hypothermia!
All I remeber is girls in tight jeans and leg warmers mmm:)

Swedish_Submarine
08-24-08, 12:12 AM
There is, of course, Nobel Peace Prize-winning Al Gore. May I ask you Europeans, are your Norwegians crazy?

I find deep offense in this statement.

Norwegians are, in fact, fairly sane :up: .

Jimbuna
08-24-08, 06:57 AM
1974 to 1978 Bolton Tech for City and Guilds Instrumentation and control



Was that the C and G 225 ?

I remember doing that at South Shields Marine and Technical College :hmm: