Humvees "borrowed" by Russians in the port of Poti

[Bruno Lotse]

These are pictures of famous Humvees from Georgia.
Now guys, check out eBay for a new Humvee offer...:rotfl:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/82460709.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/82460691.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/82460661.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/82460599.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/610xlg1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/610xaj0.jpg

[bookworm_020]

With or without mounted weapons?:hmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

The Humvee is being replaced because it just can not handle bombs and mines that explode beneath it. Even with heavy armor on the floorboards the occupants do not survive or survive but not in one piece. So, I guess these Humvee's are up for wholesale. The new vehicle being produced has a V bottom that directs the blast away the passenger compartment. If anyone would like to run the mine fields in a Humvee, good luck. The new vehicle is much better in the field for the troops. Long overdue IMO.

[August]

Good for them!

[Skybird]

The Humvee is being replaced because it just can not handle bombs and mines that explode beneath it. Even with heavy armor on the floorboards the occupants do not survive or survive but not in one piece. So, I guess these Humvee's are up for wholesale. The new vehicle being produced has a V bottom that directs the blast away the passenger compartment. If anyone would like to run the mine fields in a Humvee, good luck. The new vehicle is much better in the field for the troops. Long overdue IMO.
What is the replacement? Strykers?

[Happy Times]

The Humvee is being replaced because it just can not handle bombs and mines that explode beneath it. Even with heavy armor on the floorboards the occupants do not survive or survive but not in one piece. So, I guess these Humvee's are up for wholesale. The new vehicle being produced has a V bottom that directs the blast away the passenger compartment. If anyone would like to run the mine fields in a Humvee, good luck. The new vehicle is much better in the field for the troops. Long overdue IMO.
What is the replacement? Strykers?

Candidates.
http://www.army.mil/-news/2008/03/11/7876-jltv-one-step-closer-to-entering-technology-development/index.html

[Skybird]

Haben will! Looks like a Batmobil from the 20s! Want one for me and my baby!

[Jimbuna]

These are pictures of famous Humvees from Georgia.
Now guys, check out eBay for a new Humvee offer...:rotfl:


Almost outdated material......so tha status quo is maintained.

Russia lagging behind the west in technology. :lol:

[Bruno Lotse]

American taxpayers, please, immediately send the latest technology to the Georgian army to fight evil Russkies:arrgh!:

[AVGWarhawk]

The Humvee is being replaced because it just can not handle bombs and mines that explode beneath it. Even with heavy armor on the floorboards the occupants do not survive or survive but not in one piece. So, I guess these Humvee's are up for wholesale. The new vehicle being produced has a V bottom that directs the blast away the passenger compartment. If anyone would like to run the mine fields in a Humvee, good luck. The new vehicle is much better in the field for the troops. Long overdue IMO.
What is the replacement? Strykers?

Not the Strykers. These are completely new vehicles. I move some of the armor for the hull on my trucks and these are in production.

It is similar to this:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2007-08-01-force-protection-mraps_N.htm


Specifially designed for IED. Apparently works great. The IED was the end for Humvee's. Watch the short video. You will have one hell of a headache after a blast but you will be in one piece.

[Skybird]

Ah, the Cougar. I heared the name, but never saw a picture of it, and never knew what it really was. I somehow imagined it to be something like the German "Dingo".

[Reece]

I could press "play video" forever, does nothing!!:-?

[Red Heat]

That pics sounds more a propaganda to me... :hmm:

[August]

It's about time the Russians got a few of our trucks. Our inventory of captured Ruskie equipment is so big we've been having to use them as targets on the range. :up:

[Jimbuna]

It's about time the Russians got a few of our trucks. Our inventory of captured Ruskie equipment is so big we've been having to use them as targets on the range. :up:

Come to think of it.....they must have left some ordnance the last time they visited Afghanistan. :hmm:

Although Rambo sorted a lot of that vehicular congestion IIRC :lol:

[Bruno Lotse]

Rambos a la Russe
http://pics.livejournal.com/drugoi/pic/00h0k9pa.jpg

You see, they are fighting in white gloves!!!

[antikristuseke]

Bruno, are you a random post generator or do you occasionaly try to carry a point across?

[Bruno Lotse]

Bruno, are you a random post generator or do you occasionaly try to carry a point across?
I am competing with CNN;)

[antikristuseke]

Bruno, are you a random post generator or do you occasionaly try to carry a point across?
I am competing with CNN;)

In that case, good effort. Close, but no cigar.:rotfl:

[Bruno Lotse]

:damn:

[AVGWarhawk]

This is the actual truck being produced:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1219/871209828_b86ca986f6.jpg%3Fv%3D1200526241&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/jimfrazier/871209828&h=333&w=500&sz=132&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=uBG3AeXas_lYIM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dv%2Bhull%2Barmy%2Btrucks%2Bnavistar%2 6gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG


The company is Navistar or also known years ago as International Harvester. I would much prefer our soldiers to ride in this. So, anyone who wants the Humvee in the war zone. Have at it.

[Schroeder]

Aren't those Cougars a bit big to serve in the narrow streets of some small cities/villages? I mean the Hummvees were already quite big, but that thing is really huge for an all purpose vehicle.

BTW the video doesn't show a thing. It's way to short. All I can see there is a Cougar getting blown up but no results. So what is that video good for? They should have shown the vehicle after the explosion... or were they afraid of showing it?

[August]

So, anyone who wants the Humvee in the war zone. Have at it.

Well we did manage to beat the Japanese and the Germans with just the trusty Jeep. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

So, anyone who wants the Humvee in the war zone. Have at it.
Well we did manage to beat the Japanese and the Germans with just the trusty Jeep. :yep:

Same with the trusty Humvee but the Humvee is out of date with todays type warfare. Just as the trusty Jeep became many years ago. Personally, I would love to have a trusty Willy's Jeep from that era.

[AVGWarhawk]

Aren't those Cougars a bit big to serve in the narrow streets of some small cities/villages? I mean the Hummvees were already quite big, but that thing is really huge for an all purpose vehicle.

BTW the video doesn't show a thing. It's way to short. All I can see there is a Cougar getting blown up but no results. So what is that video good for? They should have shown the vehicle after the explosion... or were they afraid of showing it?

It shows the blast being deflected away and not allowed to go up like the Humvee experiences. It is in the same theory and thought as the proximity fuse on a torpedo under the keel. The torp explosion will have a easier time of cracking a ship in two when it explosed other that attempting to push the water out from around it. With the V bottom, the blast force will be deflected off were as the Humvee the explosion can either move the ground or move the Humvee. Being the Humvee is easier to move when the explosion happens, the Humvee suffers greatly from the direct blast that is not deflected. The V bottom produces better survivability.

[AVGWarhawk]

Great first hand account of this vehicle/V hull design and how it does work:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/automobiles/24MRAP.html?pagewanted=print


It really is a great urban assault vehicle.

[Schroeder]

I am aware of how the v-shaped body deflects the energy from the explosive. I just criticized that one doesn't see the vehicle after the explosion and how much damage it actually took. It would have been good to know how much explosives have been placed the cougar too.

I don't want to say that I don't trust the concept. I guess that thing really offers a lot of protection. It's just that that video didn't show the vehicles capability (but that might be a corporate/military secret).

[AVGWarhawk]

I am aware of how the v-shaped body deflects the energy from the explosive. I just criticized that one doesn't see the vehicle after the explosion and how much damage it actually took. It would have been good to know how much explosives have been placed the cougar too.

I don't want to say that I don't trust the concept. I guess that thing really offers a lot of protection. It's just that that video didn't show the vehicles capability (but that might be a corporate/military secret).
I think the video at the time was to display the concept of the V hull and how it works. Nothing more really. If you read the link I posted above from solider in the field who had a IED explode under one, you will have an idea of how much damage the truck took and can take. But do we really care how much damage the truck withstood? It is if the men inside survived is the real question. Trucks we can replace. Lives we can not.

[Platapus]

Personally, I would love to have a trusty Willy's Jeep from that era.

In the 80's we used to drive the M-151 MUTT. That was one great vehicle. And pretty fun to drive. It was a bit fragile, especially with a bunch of idiots like us bouncing across the desert in them.

Ah them were the days :up:

[August]

I drove a M151 for awhile during my tour in Germany.

IMO they were a totally different concept than the humvee. A vehicle light enough and small enough to be slung under a helicopter, stacked in a conex container, hid under a large bush or small tree, or even picked up and bodily carried by 6-7 soldiers. Closer to a motorcycle than a truck but with the trailer still able to carry a significant amount of gear and ammo.

Humvees on the other hand are becoming more and more like small moving pillboxes that offer protection to the troops inside where the jeep offers none, but the downside is, being so much larger and heavier, they require a lot more effort to deploy to the battlefield.

[bookworm_020]

At least Australia went to Iraq and Afganistan with vehicles that were up to the job

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster_IMV

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASLAV

http://www.defense-update.com/products/a/aslav.htm

Both have types have been hit by IED's, but all occupents have survived. the experience.

[Bruno Lotse]

Guys, check out eBay for 'a new Humvee' offer.
A stockpile of Humvees in Russian arsenal is going up, so prices might be down!

Here's a new one. Yeah, no mounted weapon.
But it's a secondhand, so gotta be cheaper!!!
http://kp.ru/upimg/photo/136216.jpg


You can read about its former owners here.
I suspect they won't mind.

http://kp.ru/daily/24150.4/366391/

[Platapus]

Guys, check out eBay for 'a new Humvee' offer.
A stockpile of Humvees in Russian arsenal is going up, so prices might be down!

Here's a new one. Yeah, no mounted weapon.
But it's a secondhand, so gotta be cheaper!!!
http://kp.ru/upimg/photo/136216.jpg


You can read about its former owners here.
I suspect they won't mind.

http://kp.ru/daily/24150.4/366391/


I wonder what the CarFax report on this would would say> :rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

Guys, check out eBay for 'a new Humvee' offer.
A stockpile of Humvees in Russian arsenal is going up, so prices might be down!

Here's a new one. Yeah, no mounted weapon.
But it's a secondhand, so gotta be cheaper!!!
http://kp.ru/upimg/photo/136216.jpg


You can read about its former owners here.
I suspect they won't mind.

http://kp.ru/daily/24150.4/366391/

Just loved reading that article....It wasn't from a Russian source by any chance was it :lol:

[Bruno Lotse]

I tell a hush-hush secret.
A vehycle on the picture is Lada with some PhotoShop:yep:

But don't spread it around!!!!

[Jimbuna]

I tell a hush-hush secret.
A vehycle on the picture is Lada with some PhotoShop:yep:

But don't spread it around!!!!

Rgr that :up:

I hope it comes fitted with a heated rear screen.....otherwise your hands will stick to it when you're push starting it on a morning ;)