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Click>>> Fury as pensioners targeted by graffiti-spraying vandals are told by council to clean up the mess themselves or face £1,000 fine (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1043527/Pensioners-plagued-graffiti-ordered-clean-mess--face-1-000-fine.html)
In the letter sent to residents, Jim Hunter, risk management co-ordinator at the Tory-run council, said: 'The external appearance of your property is a source of concern due to this graffiti.
'I advise that if prompt action is not made in remedying the removal of graffiti, the council has the option to take enforcement action under Section 215 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990.
'I do ask that the graffiti is removed within 21 days from the date of this letter.'
I can see the council has the right under the law but this is a heavy handed attitude against a group of pensioners which is not fair.
Platapus
08-11-08, 03:33 PM
that is totally not fair. How about using some of the council funds to pay for the removal????
Our city services handles it but the property owner must sign a waiver against any litigation for property damage. The rub: you don't sign the waiver, you have to clean it up yourself w/in 30 days, then a fine could be assessed.
BBC NEWS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7552782.stm)
A wildlife charity has backed a Northumberland couple who have been told by their local council to stop feeding the birds in their garden
Where would we be without these extra bits of government?
BBC NEWS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7552782.stm)
A wildlife charity has backed a Northumberland couple who have been told by their local council to stop feeding the birds in their garden
Where would we be without these extra bits of government?
Mmmm.... Not in England?:huh:
Jimbuna
08-12-08, 05:39 AM
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL!! :nope:
A little taste perhaps of how the Tories are actually worse than the crap we have in power right now :hmm:
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL!! :nope:
A little taste perhaps of how the Tories are actually worse than the crap we have in power right now :hmm:
Sounds more like England has put the neighborhood busybodies in charge of their day to day lives. Unfortunately busybodies come in all political flavors.
Kapitan_Phillips
08-12-08, 08:42 AM
Wonderful priorites by the head honchos. Yob Crime? Knife Crime? Organised Crime? Rampant. But damnit, when it comes to pensioners and graffiti, they sure dont take no ****, do they.
:nope:
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL!! :nope:
A little taste perhaps of how the Tories are actually worse than the crap we have in power right now :hmm:
Lets be honest jim Labour are not exactly squeaky clean are they. I should know I had some real BS from them and I'm glad they lost control of my council last year. I'm a firm believer we need a massive shake up that will rock the very foundations of this country when it comes to politics.
Jimbuna
08-13-08, 06:23 AM
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL!! :nope:
A little taste perhaps of how the Tories are actually worse than the crap we have in power right now :hmm:
Lets be honest jim Labour are not exactly squeaky clean are they. I should know I had some real BS from them and I'm glad they lost control of my council last year. I'm a firm believer we need a massive shake up that will rock the very foundations of this country when it comes to politics.
I'd like to see a coalition....a government where none of the parties enjoy an overall majority.
I'd like to see a coalition....a government where none of the parties enjoy an overall majority.
LibLab Pack. :hmm:
What I like to see is...........
Far fewer MP's:
We have far two many of them and they out number all the representatives of America, come on look at the scale.
Your MP makes the effort to see you:
It would be nice if they made the effort once year to knock on your door and have a chat.
MP's can serve only two terms to put a stop to all this safe seat guff:
This will insure new faces and leaders making it more refreshing. Former MP's can stand again only after a period of 10 years.
Before you become a MP you must have worked in the real world for 10 years:
A lot of them have no real idea of life outside the Commons so lets have people who will not make crass remarks.
A mid term vote on how well the government is doing or not:
A simple vote are you happy with the present government and how it is handling the economy. This will give vital feed back to them as we the voter are watching there progress.
Honor restored to the Commons:
If a PM or MP has stepped out of line they must say sorry for there actions and step down. Not all this in fighting and all the rest.
I'm thinking about councils next.
Kapitan_Phillips
08-13-08, 06:53 AM
Got another one STEED;
MPs dont jump on a 9% payrise when they beg the working joe not to take one themselves
Got another one STEED;
MPs dont jump on a 9% payrise when they beg the working joe not to take one themselves
Yes indeed. :yep: :up:
Kapitan_Phillips
08-13-08, 06:56 AM
Bloody hypocritical, greedy arseholes, the lot of them. :damn:
Bloody hypocritical, greedy arseholes, the lot of them. :damn:
Thats the problem, too many of them have been there too long and they love it.
Jimbuna
08-13-08, 07:13 AM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5184/thundercatshouse20of20pbk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
mrbeast
08-13-08, 07:55 AM
Far fewer MP's:
We have far two many of them and they out number all the representatives of America, come on look at the scale.
MPs and US representatives don't translate exactly. One of the advantages of our parliamentary system is that MPs are closer to the communities which they represent and therefore more accessable. In practice this depends on the MP, some like Jack Straw for example are very open, even regularly stands on a soap box on Blackburn town centre and answers peoples questions, others are more aloof. Something I certainly take into consideration when I vote is how responsive an MP is regardless if hes of the right party.
Your MP makes the effort to see you:
It would be nice if they made the effort once year to knock on your door and have a chat.
That would be a lot of households to get through and considering an MP has to spend a certain amount of time in Westminster. The only way around that would be to have more MPs which then brings us back to your first point.
MP's can serve only two terms to put a stop to all this safe seat guff:
This will insure new faces and leaders making it more refreshing. Former MP's can stand again only after a period of 10 years.
Interesting idea, problems though; an MP might be returned regulary because they are genuinely popular with their constituants and a good MP, in many areas a particular party has an in-built majority and will simply return another member of the same party again who will probably just vote the same way etc; the change might not neccesarily be significant enough. also it seems to me that many of the older more established MPs are often more likely to be rebels and less likely to tow the government line, offering critical voices. Its the newer MPs who tend to simply vote whichever way they are told, if an MP could not become established or it may actually increase the numbers of pro government troopers, removing that layer of back bench MPS.
Before you become a MP you must have worked in the real world for 10 years:
A lot of them have no real idea of life outside the Commons so lets have people who will not make crass remarks.
Agian its the newer in take of MPs who tend to be like this, i.e career politicians rather than conviction polticians. I agree that politicians need to have thier feet on the ground so to speak but its just symptom of the way politics have developed in this country. Another point is that this would mean raising the minimum age for being an MP form IIRC 21, wouldn't that discriminate against younger people? Might that give them one less incentive to bother voting or get involved in politics?
A mid term vote on how well the government is doing or not:
A simple vote are you happy with the present government and how it is handling the economy. This will give vital feed back to them as we the voter are watching there progress.
The government already carries out work like this; they are called focus groups and IMO they are the bain of modern politics. One of the reasons government policy is often disorganised or wishy-washy is because of the prevailance of using focus groups to formulate it, rather than pursuing a unified policy stratergy because they believe its to greater good and benefit of the country. instead they simply dio things that they think will be popular. I'm not sure how useful a vote like this would be and might be more trouble than its worth for a number of reasons, however my lunch hour is up and so they will have to wait until I get home from work!;)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5184/thundercatshouse20of20pbk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Looks neat, care to enlightened your cousins from across the way?
We must grasp the nettle and move forward, what we got now is stagnation and no wonder people don't want to vote. If the radical change hits the MP's like a bombshell and scares them then good.
But I see no hope in this direction as the few like it as it is. :nope:
Jimbuna
08-13-08, 08:29 AM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5184/thundercatshouse20of20pbk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Looks neat, care to enlightened your cousins from across the way?
That is the Thundercats logo..........epitomising what many Brits think of the 'fat cats' in Westminster......little more than cartoon characters with little or no sense of real world reality.
Tchocky
08-13-08, 08:31 AM
Yeah! Kick out the MPs! That'll sort out the ....council....
some like Jack Straw for example are very open, even regularly stands on a soap box on Blackburn town centre and answers peoples questions, others are more aloof. Something I certainly take into consideration when I vote is how responsive an MP is regardless if hes of the right party.
Flaky Straw is to weak but as you say there are some who make an effort.
That would be a lot of households to get through and considering an MP has to spend a certain amount of time in Westminster. The only way around that would be to have more MPs which then brings us back to your first point.
They can fit it in on there big holiday break from Westminster. Another suggestion hold a meeting for people to attend a Q&A session and the MP must stress please visit me at my surgery for a one to one. All the MP's I've had not one of them saw me or an Q&A its I who had to see them.
Interesting idea, problems though; an MP might be returned regulary because they are genuinely popular with their constituants and a good MP, in many areas a particular party has an in-built majority and will simply return another member of the same party again who will probably just vote the same way etc; the change might not neccesarily be significant enough. also it seems to me that many of the older more established MPs are often more likely to be rebels and less likely to tow the government line, offering critical voices. Its the newer MPs who tend to simply vote whichever way they are told, if an MP could not become established or it may actually increase the numbers of pro government troopers, removing that layer of back bench MPS.
Get rid of party whips and lets have MP's vote by there convictions and not told to tow the party line. Tough luck to all those safe MP's time they got back in to the real world, fresh faces fresh ideas.
Agian its the newer in take of MPs who tend to be like this, i.e career politicians rather than conviction polticians. I agree that politicians need to have thier feet on the ground so to speak but its just symptom of the way politics have developed in this country. Another point is that this would mean raising the minimum age for being an MP form IIRC 21, wouldn't that discriminate against younger people? Might that give them one less incentive to bother voting or get involved in politics?
If younger people are serious enough to want to be a MP then give them the chance to work for there MP's.
The government already carries out work like this; they are called focus groups and IMO they are the bain of modern politics. One of the reasons government policy is often disorganised or wishy-washy is because of the prevailance of using focus groups to formulate it, rather than pursuing a unified policy stratergy because they believe its to greater good and benefit of the country. instead they simply dio things that they think will be popular. I'm not sure how useful a vote like this would be and might be more trouble than its worth for a number of reasons, however my lunch hour is up and so they will have to wait until I get home from work!;)
Yea thinktanks quangos etc etc etc. Give it to us the voter to deliver the message not a select few in suites and ties. They then can see how we feel and take proper steps if need be.
Thanks for your in put mrbeast. :up:
I'd like to see a coalition....a government where none of the parties enjoy an overall majority.
LibLab Pack. :hmm:
Honor restored to the Commons:
If a PM or MP has stepped out of line they must say sorry for there actions and step down. Not all this in fighting and all the rest.
How about they go to prison? That's the usual punishment for embezzlement, not going back to your law firm with a big fat pension.
:arrgh!:
I agree. If they have broken the law they must face the consequences and ban from becoming an MP ever again.
Jimbuna
08-13-08, 09:14 AM
I agree. If they have broken the law they must face the consequences and ban from becoming an MP ever again.
Then Parliament would be empty and we could demolish it :up:
Konovalov
08-13-08, 09:19 AM
I agree. If they have broken the law they must face the consequences and ban from becoming an MP ever again.
Then Parliament would be empty and we could demolish it :up:
Or turn it into another Starbucks. :arrgh!:
I think we have far too many Starbucks as it is. :lol:
Konovalov
08-13-08, 09:24 AM
I think we have far too many Starbucks as it is. :lol:
Burn them all. Coffee heretics. :dead:
I think we have far too many Starbucks as it is. :lol:
Burn them all. Coffee heretics. :dead:
Too bloody right...........:lol: I have no idea what it is they pass off as coffee but that is not the real deal.
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