Battleground Europe Update

[TheBrauerHour]

For those that do not know what Battleground Europe (WWII Online) is, I present one of the best trailers for the game:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gOoS0AVQIAo

It truly is a combined arms simulation where players can do everything from fly bombers, captain a destroyer to lob mortars or drive a tiger tank.

And now for the update:

v1.29 is in beta. This update will provide new terrain and new planes. We get some new bridges and buildings. The framework for the new graphics engine and a tutorial for new players will be included as well. The developers signed a contract that will license the game out to China now, and the extra revenue should produce a wonderful amount of updates and improvements.

The game really is the best thing going on the internet. If you are interested, there is a free 14 day trial. Sign up and find a squad, they will help you learn to be successful.

This is no Call of Duty style shooter. The enemy will use tactics when they attack, and you will most likely die many times before you learn the art of using cover and concealment properly.

[DemonTraitor]

What a load of crock. I just signed up for a 14-day FREE trial and they are aksing for a credit-card number. I don't use them, as I don't use banks - why the hell do you have to put this info in for a trial. You did not have to do this with EVE!!!

I just wanted to see what it was like :down:

[TheBrauerHour]

Yeah, it is a complaint we have brought to the devs before. Eve players that have come to WWIIOL have made this point. The good thing is that everyone that has made this complaint that joins my squad has subscribed, so no big deal they would have entered their Credit card info anyhow.

Not sure if there is a way around it, but they are a good company and will not rip you off. Your CC is safe with them. If you do not have a CC, well, not sure what to tell you other than go to Walmart and buy one of those prepaid cards. Then if you want to keep your subscription just switch billing options. They have several billing options that are not credit cards.

S!




Oh, almost forgot:

The video I posted above is a video from the devs. Here is a video montage of screenshots and action made by the players themselves.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iuA64QQvq1M

[DemonTraitor]

Definitely look like my type of game. I love Flashpoint, which is in the same sort of Graphics rating, but the gameplay and realism is awesome.

Shame it is subscription. I expect a lot of the real massive games will be like this :cry:

[Dowly]

All I can say is that I, of all the people around the world have to be one of the most sceptic/against these games you have to first buy and then keep paying them the monthly fee. WWIIOL changed it with a bang. Fock ArmA, OFP, BF series and what else you have, if you want a full scale war, WWIIOL is the one to get.

Here's an example of how enjoyable it can be, most of us have played the Silent Hunter series here so you know how enjoyable it is to find a convoy and sink a ship. Now, take WWIIOL. You know the enemy forces are going to hit a town near you hard with infantry and tanks, you take (in my case) Pak38 AT gun, move it to a good spot waaay out of the city to cover a road you suspect the enemy is coming. You wait, wait and wait. Hour and 2 passes when you start to hear the noises produced by enemy tanks, you know there wont be infantry as it's rare to see a infantry to run all the way from the Firebase to the target city (Mobilespawns are for that). You wait for the tanks to pass you, swing the barrel around to aim their butts and let it rip! You can take down whole armored assaults with 1 well placed AT gun.

Or let's the sniper class. A week or 2 ago, I held down half of the enemy AT guns as we attacked a city, I had a very good spot from where I could see the entrance to the enemy AB (armybase). The allies just kept on using the gate that was facing me, so in the end, I got 2 17pndr AT guns, 1 40mm Bofors and whole loads of infantry, helping the German attack quite a bit.

A ******* great game, I tell you! :up:

[TheBrauerHour]

I am in the RatChat right now, listeniing to the Devs talk about the new stuff that the game will be getting.


Wow...is all I can say.

1.29 beta is halfway done they said. Can't wait!

[Dowly]

What's ya doing in the chat!? There's a war going on! :p

[TheBrauerHour]

Hehe. It was awesome to hear the devs talk about what they have been doing and actually ask the players what they thought about things.

Very good news, as alot of cool things are on the way.

[DemonTraitor]

All I can say is that I, of all the people around the world have to be one of the most sceptic/against these games you have to first buy and then keep paying them the monthly fee. WWIIOL changed it with a bang. Fock ArmA, OFP, BF series and what else you have, if you want a full scale war, WWIIOL is the one to get.

Here's an example of how enjoyable it can be, most of us have played the Silent Hunter series here so you know how enjoyable it is to find a convoy and sink a ship. Now, take WWIIOL. You know the enemy forces are going to hit a town near you hard with infantry and tanks, you take (in my case) Pak38 AT gun, move it to a good spot waaay out of the city to cover a road you suspect the enemy is coming. You wait, wait and wait. Hour and 2 passes when you start to hear the noises produced by enemy tanks, you know there wont be infantry as it's rare to see a infantry to run all the way from the Firebase to the target city (Mobilespawns are for that). You wait for the tanks to pass you, swing the barrel around to aim their butts and let it rip! You can take down whole armored assaults with 1 well placed AT gun.

Or let's the sniper class. A week or 2 ago, I held down half of the enemy AT guns as we attacked a city, I had a very good spot from where I could see the entrance to the enemy AB (armybase). The allies just kept on using the gate that was facing me, so in the end, I got 2 17pndr AT guns, 1 40mm Bofors and whole loads of infantry, helping the German attack quite a bit.

A ******* great game, I tell you! :up:

Stop teasing!!! :cry:

So do you, and everyone else think it is worth paying out around £150+ a year for a game?

[TheBrauerHour]

All I can say is that I, of all the people around the world have to be one of the most sceptic/against these games you have to first buy and then keep paying them the monthly fee. WWIIOL changed it with a bang. Fock ArmA, OFP, BF series and what else you have, if you want a full scale war, WWIIOL is the one to get.

Here's an example of how enjoyable it can be, most of us have played the Silent Hunter series here so you know how enjoyable it is to find a convoy and sink a ship. Now, take WWIIOL. You know the enemy forces are going to hit a town near you hard with infantry and tanks, you take (in my case) Pak38 AT gun, move it to a good spot waaay out of the city to cover a road you suspect the enemy is coming. You wait, wait and wait. Hour and 2 passes when you start to hear the noises produced by enemy tanks, you know there wont be infantry as it's rare to see a infantry to run all the way from the Firebase to the target city (Mobilespawns are for that). You wait for the tanks to pass you, swing the barrel around to aim their butts and let it rip! You can take down whole armored assaults with 1 well placed AT gun.

Or let's the sniper class. A week or 2 ago, I held down half of the enemy AT guns as we attacked a city, I had a very good spot from where I could see the entrance to the enemy AB (armybase). The allies just kept on using the gate that was facing me, so in the end, I got 2 17pndr AT guns, 1 40mm Bofors and whole loads of infantry, helping the German attack quite a bit.

A ******* great game, I tell you! :up:
Stop teasing!!! :cry:

So do you, and everyone else think it is worth paying out around £150+ a year for a game?

Battleground Europe is the only game I have ever done this for. I would not think of normally paying monthly for a game, but this really is a unique experience well worth the price of admission.

[DemonTraitor]

Battleground Europe is the only game I have ever done this for. I would not think of normally paying monthly for a game, but this really is a unique experience well worth the price of admission.

Well, the account system is not very well thought out. My son & I are avid gamers, and we do not own credit cards, and after doing some reading up, and watching various videos, we are very much interested. Shame we cannot try it out for ourselves for real, which will increase the chances of us signing up (even though the chances are high anyway). So, the designers have potentially lost an extra £182 a year income. Not that they will miss it :88)

Oh well, looks like I we will have to stick to the BF series, Flashpoint, and Americas Army etc.

:-?

[CaptHawkeye]

I played BE a couple of years ago. It was fun for a little while but the "spawn-camp-capture" repetition of EVERY town got boring. 90% of the game is tank camping and guys just pointlessly running around. I wonder if they've changed any of this.

[DemonTraitor]

I played BE a couple of years ago. It was fun for a little while but the "spawn-camp-capture" repetition of EVERY town got boring. 90% of the game is tank camping and guys just pointlessly running around. I wonder if they've changed any of this.

Hmm interesting.

I hate it when games are flawed in this way. I stayed away from BF-Vietnam when I heard that once you got hold of a gunship, you were untouchable...

I used to run a Medal of Honour Clan, with servers. There were so many glitches etc that people could take advantage of that I spent most of my admining the server, kicking people etc rather than playing the game.

[TheBrauerHour]

Demon, I brought up some concerns in a post at teh Battleground Europe forums. I doubt you can see it without a subscription, but here is some info I got from it.


You can use a bank debit card if not a credit card
Use Paypal
Buy a prepaid credit card to start trial and then convert to other payment messages
Every once in a while they offer no credit card trials, check back to see if they are doing it sometime.Hope that helps.



Here is the link to that thread if any subscribed players are interested:

http://forums.battlegroundeurope.com/showthread.php?p=3613502&posted=1#post3613502



PS: They just revamped the Battleground Website today!

http://www.battlegroundeurope.com/

[DemonTraitor]

Demon, I brought up some concerns in a post at teh Battleground Europe forums. I doubt you can see it without a subscription, but here is some info I got from it.

You can use a bank debit card if not a credit card
Use Paypal
Buy a prepaid credit card to start trial and then convert to other payment messages
Every once in a while they offer no credit card trials, check back to see if they are doing it sometime.Hope that helps.



Here is the link to that thread if any subscribed players are interested:

http://forums.battlegroundeurope.com/showthread.php?p=3613502&posted=1#post3613502



PS: They just revamped the Battleground Website today!

http://www.battlegroundeurope.com/

Thank you very much for this info - truly appreciated!!

[Laffertytig]

ive just signed up for this after completing my 2 week trial. the jury's still out for me but for £7 a month i reckon il stick at it for a month or two.

i know there's a great game in here its just a matter of gettin over the steep learnin curve.

[CaptHawkeye]

For me it wasn't even the learning curve. Hell learning how to use things was the most engaging part of the game. The problem was that years after the game has been released they've done everything *except* fix the horribly formulaic gameplay. Their are just "town sieges" for battles and nothing else. No "attack the artillery base" or "take the bunkers" or "fight at the T junction". It's all cap and carry. Their isn't anything to promote battles outside of the towns. Their are FBs, but the game treats them like nothing more than army bases closer to the front. The only thing in the game that has any strategic value at all is the spawn points.

[TheBrauerHour]

Intercepting armor columns with an ambush of Anti tank guns, participating in a bomber mission into the heart of England, and attacking enemy held towns using preplanned rally points while having support from friendly armor hardly deems formulaic. There is nothing prescripted in the entire game. Attacks are chosen by players. How the attack proceeds from there is up to the players.

I think what you are talking of is the way town capture works. You actually need to get in there and fight house to house in order to secure the town by capturing control points. These are represented by buildings with flags on them.


I will agree though, this game isn't for everyone. It takes a great deal of patience to play. Some people can't be bothered with taking a halftrack and pulling Anti-tank or Anti-aircraft weapons into position. Some can't set up as an Anti-tank gun or in a tank and wait in an ambush spot for 30 minutes or more until an enemy armor column comes by. Alot of people don't like waiting in a field as an anti-aircraft battery of 40mm bofors and wait for the enemy bomber formations to come by on their way to bomb your towns. The game simulates war, which includes the awesome battles that rage for hours to the small skirmishes that are over in 20 minutes.

[TheBrauerHour]

I played BE a couple of years ago. It was fun for a little while but the "spawn-camp-capture" repetition of EVERY town got boring. 90% of the game is tank camping and guys just pointlessly running around. I wonder if they've changed any of this.

Ah, I just saw this. 2 years ago it was a different game. Try the trial, and join a squad. Alot of new players try to do things on their own, and those are usually the ones that don't stay. I think you will find a different experience. I agree it was a totally different game back then, and I actually am surprised the company survived those dark days.

[CaptHawkeye]

I sense their is a game to be had when it organizes, but i've been delt a bad hand every time when selecting squads. Either no one is ever on, or the unit has zero cohesion of any kind. And all the big bad super squads rarely accept new members. :)

[Raptor1]

Well, I just started the trial, I do suck, having killed nothing at all except a couple of french tanks and a field gun I destroyed in one mission with my StuG III (I think that's what it was)...hope I get better with it soon, as the game looks very fun

[CaptHawkeye]

Everybody dies a lot. Even the experienced guys. I'd favor some refinements in the spawning system. Having guys spawn off of officers instead of mobile spawns would probably help keep squads and units together, but I can only imagine the kind of knee jerk reactions I would get from the player community for thinking of something that might break up some of the monotony. :)

[Dowly]

HAH! Dying in WWIIOL doesnt mean nothing personally, the "team" just loses one of that type of soldier/ATG/tank etc.

Try EVE Online! You lose everything! Your ship and EVERYTHING fitted to it or in cargo bay. Now, that hurts! :nope:

[Raptor1]

I've played EVE for 2 years, I know how much losing your precious Battleship can hurt (Your wallet mostly)

[TheBrauerHour]

Every time I see a Tiger die, a piece of my soul goes with it.

[RedChico]

Every time I see a Tiger die, a piece of my soul goes with it.

Lmao:p

[CaptHawkeye]

Every time I see a Tiger die, a piece of my soul goes with it.

Every time I see someone spawn a Tiger and take it into a Rambo-inspired FB camp with sappers hiding in the fields a piece of me dies an agonizing death. Why is it so god damn hard for people to be modest when they play the game?

[TheBrauerHour]

No idea. I honestly hate seeing them get spawned. They cost so much to build compared to the Allied side tanks that whenever a person spawns one, they are asked to RTB it. It is like a Ferrari in the Garage...so expensive you don't want to drive it.

[CaptHawkeye]

I think the biggest problem with axis is that they whine and moan and complain endlessly that their armor isn't as good as allied armor in a stand up fight. Even though that's realistic. Early war axis armor simply wasn't meant to get into toe-to-toe slug out matches with allied armor, since it was qualitativley superior. Axis tanks are blitz tanks, designed to work in self contained highly mobile cavalry groups flanking and overrunning enemy positions or bypassing them all together. You know what people do instead? They take a Panzer 3 to an empty field, hide it behind a bush, and then demand CRS pays attention to their whining when a Somua S-35 one shot's them.

Most people also single crew, which is understandable, since their just aren't enough people playing the game to justify fully crewed vehicles. But when a single guy has to operate every position on board a tank, his workload is so massive he ends up hurting himself more than he helps. The French realistically figured this out the hard way. It'd be cool if CRS would let the player control all tank positions from any seat, since in practice it would end up being more realistic than multi crewing.

Course, if they wanted to get really realistic on the allied side, they could just remove the chat from some early allied tanks, since many of them weren't equipped with radios.

[RedChico]

Well well, and allied whinner.
I know that there are some axis tanks (at least) that don't have factory bolted addon armor plates, plust the mysterious HEAT ammo with unknown penetration values.

On the allied side there are some tanks that have face hardened armor plates, but ingame one are???

[TheBrauerHour]

Hawkeye, that is why I take an ATG before even thinking about jumping in a Panzer. There are players who know how to use them and rack up great numbers against the Allies. I like the Pak38 (50mm) Anti Tank Gun because it is fairly mobile with a low profile. Get that towed into a good position and you can have lots of fun.

In the end it balances out. Axis have a better lmg, and a better early tier dive-bomber.

[tater]

There is not enough fog of war, period (I'm a pre-day one player, BTW). Eliminating chat for units without radios would be great, except so many use TS.

The only control the host has over commo is to limit icons. I've suggested this to them many times. there should be no air/ground icons at all, and in fact player IDs should be limited to a range where you could make out a person's face, or ID tag on their uniform (10-20m, tops).

I'd also dump all the map radar stuff (except for real radar analogs for aircraft)