Is It Possible To Set Range back To Zero?

[Seminole]

I can't seem to get the PK Range to reset back to zero. The lowest I can get is 220 yds. :hmm:

Before I begin setting up any manual solutions the PK is always set to 0 speed and 0 Range. Getting the speed back to 0 is easy enough but what about the range?...is it possible to reset to 0000?...If so...How?


(not that it really matters much in setting up other firing solutions..mostly I'm just curious)

TIA

found nothing about this in SEARCH...btw...

[Rockin Robbins]

The short answer is no. In order to get zero out of the stadimeter the angle measured would have to be 90º. Since your periscope's field of view is only 20º or so at low magnification, you can't get the stadimeter to measure below 20º angle differences.

The long answer is yes. By grabbing the clear plastic triangle and dragging it up to zero you can perform this interesting but useless function!:up:
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/RockinRobbins13/Silent%20Hunter%204/Manual%20TDC%20Range/SH4Img14-11-2007_75648_836-1.jpg

Oops, looks like 220 is the minimum on the scale, doesn't it?

Never mind!:rotfl:

[Seminole]

yeah...:lol: ...like I said...220


...but there is one way...save and reload....:hmm: :smug: ....but I can't think of any real reason to S&R just to start out targeting from scratch....unless perhaps you wanted to conduct some kind of experimentation with firing solutions and need to start from an absolutely clean slate each time.

[jazman]

Is there a reason you want to set it to zero, or is it some personal quirk?

[Seminole]

Is there a reason you want to set it to zero, or is it some personal quirk?


well..read above...like the opening thread maybe ....:D

[Seminole]

Dummy me.. I forgot to include:


There is a way to reset to zero without saving and reloading..it is what got me wondering about this to begin with. :damn:


I was conducting a convoy attack,manual targeting, and used up all 6 forward shots. While in a frenzy of turning 180 degrees about and setting up/switching to the aft tubes I glanced at the PK and saw the RANGE had reset to absolute zero. It Read 00000! I had a fleeting thought of "how in the world did I do that" but had to go about the business at hand, so I didn't have a lot of time at the moment to consider it deeply. The short of it is...there must be a way to do this, but danged me if I can figure out what it was I did. :-?

[jazman]

Is there a reason you want to set it to zero, or is it some personal quirk?


well..read above...like the opening thread maybe ....:D
You're curious? But why?

[Hydra]

I'm glad there are people who are curious. It leads to innovation!

[Nisgeis]

I haven't checked if this is possible, but perhaps you clicked on send range/bearing to TDC from the sonar screen, without having done an echo ranging?

[Seminole]

I haven't checked if this is possible, but perhaps you clicked on send range/bearing to TDC from the sonar screen, without having done an echo ranging?

Naw...as I said I was in the middle of attacking a convoy and getting away... so I don't believe I went to the sonar station.

[Seminole]

You're curious? But why?

Now that be a real poser....I can't ever recall anyone ever before asking for justification for anyone's wanting to expand their knowledge and understanding on any subject. Sorry I have no answer for you.

To tell the truth I find it a bit perturbing...especially inlight of your curious curosity. :-?

[Seminole]

:hmm: ..I may have found a way to set to zero but I have not experimented with it yet.

In the Dials Config file there is an entry down around 58 or 59 that establishes the Range limits from 11,000 to 220 if I recall correctly.

Could be that changing the 220 to simply zero might work...then it would be as simple as resetting the speed to zero. Maybe not. Maybe I'll give 'er a go when my curosity gets the better of me. ;) But for now I'm off on patrol.

[Seminole]

Final Answer to original question:

YES...:yep:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm36/Seminole_05/SH4Img2008-08-09_165543_650.jpg

I just needed some time to sit down and figure it out. Now what can I do with it that I couldn't before? :-? :lol:

[jazman]

My brain space is limited, I can only stuff useful info into it now.

BTW, here's a section from Arthur Conan Doyle's "A Study in Scarlet" (Sherlock Holmes):

[Holmes'] ignorance was as remarkable as his knowledge. Of contemporary literature, philosophy and politics he appeared to know next to nothing. Upon my quoting Thomas Carlyle, he inquired in the naivest way who he might be and what he had done. My surprise reached a climax, however, when I found incidentally that he was ignorant of the Copernican Theory and of the composition of the Solar System. That any civilized human being in this nineteenth century should not be aware that the earth travelled round the sun appeared to me to be such an extraordinary fact that I could hardly realize it.

“You appear to be astonished,” he said, smiling at my expression of surprise. "Now that I do know it I shall do my best to forget it.”

“To forget it!”

“You see,” he explained, “I consider that a man’s brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose. A fool takes in all the lumber of every sort that he comes across, so that the knowledge which might be useful to him gets crowded out, or at best is jumbled up with a lot of other things, so that he has a difficulty in laying his hands upon it. Now the skilful workman is very careful indeed as to what he takes into his brain-attic. He will have nothing but the tools which may help him in doing his work, but of these he has a large assortment, and all in the most perfect order. It is a mistake to think that that little room has elastic walls and can distend to any extent. Depend upon it there comes a time when for every addition of knowledge you forget something that you knew before. It is of the highest importance, therefore, not to have useless facts elbowing out the useful ones.”

“But the Solar System!” I protested.

“What the deuce is it to me?” he interrupted impatiently: “you say that we go round the sun. If we went round the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work.”

[LeeVanSpliff]

“I consider that a man’s brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose. A fool takes in all the lumber of every sort that he comes across, so that the knowledge which might be useful to him gets crowded out, or at best is jumbled up with a lot of other things, so that he has a difficulty in laying his hands upon it.


I disagree with Mr. Holmes! Who knows when my mental map of where all the ruins in "Warlords" or my accumulated memories of where the secret doors in "Eye of the Beholder 2" might come in handy? I mean, I might not have any significant need to find the secret in the level where Commander Keen finds the pogo stick just now but who knows what tomorrow will bring? :)

[Seminole]

:hmm: ...doesn't seem to me that your are disagreeing with S.H. in fact just the opposite.

Mr Holmes is saying that knowledge is it's own reward and no knowledge is to be discarded because you do not find it useful.

[Rockin Robbins]

:hmm: ...doesn't seem to me that your are disagreeing with S.H. in fact just the opposite.

Mr Holmes is saying that knowledge is it's own reward and no knowledge is to be discarded because you do not find it useful. Then you are reading a different Mr. Holmes than I. What does "Now that I do know it I shall do my best to forget it.” mean, but "that is a useless piece of information and I shall file it....In file #13."

I disagree with Mr Holmes, in that he presupposes that he KNOWS which information is useful and which is not. He does not always know, and therefore he cannot properly make the decision regarding which presently unuseful information is to be discarded and which kept.

At the very least, for a significant percentage of newly acquired information that appears to have no usefulness, at some point in the near future, it will become necessary to recall it. Therefore, Mr Holmes has uttered a fallacy from flawed premises.

[Seminole]

Yep you are right. In the early AM hours I hastily read through it and took it to be Holmes talking about another person rather than another person talking about Holmes. My fault.

I must say I find it extraordinary that a "great world class detective" (even a fictional one) would take that position. Then...I guess he couldn't have answered my question correctly either..and I would still have had to puzzle it out for myself...:lol:

[Seminole]

Setting range to zero...a practical application. I had reached that point in a career when even unescorted merchantmen become able sometimes to detect your boat at impossible distances and under impossible conditions. The sim works that into the mix and it can be downright inconvenient. :yep: Well this time I was ready.:yep: :yep: ..with a counter measure. Guess I could have done a sonar attack but that would only taken out one. The second would have been deckgun work.

I spotted a couple of turkeys a couple of miles away and immediately headed below one of those ever present thermals. I turned to a 90 degree intercept course and waited. When the time was right I popped up at flank speed with all tubes set to fire directly ahead with no gyro compensation what-so-ever. I hit the first pigeon from 300-400 yds and he went down with a single fish. I had to do an almost 360 to line up the second fellow and also hit him from about 500 yds with but a single torpedo. Deep-sixed. Both of these were packing iron but somehow in the surprize they didn't put up much of a fight. No need to calculate offset for the the scope or TBT. No need to worry about target speed or angle on the bow. None of that. Just point and fire..maybe with a longer distance some lead would be necessary..but if the distance were that great I would probably be doing a full Dick O'Kane or full manual solution anyway.

I can't wait to get into a big convoy and see how this plays out there. I never seem to be able to take out more than 2 from a convoy..I want a clean sweep! :hmm:


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http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm36/Seminole_05/firstdown.jpg


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm36/Seminole_05/cleansweep.jpg

[Rommer69]

And, is there anyway to change the range from the area of 220-1500 yd to the other half of the disk to input manually greater distances?
If the initial range is in the lowest half of the disk, i can´t upgrade it to more than 1500 yd by moving the crystal plastic triangle.
Thanks

[Seminole]

Sure the clickable dial "mod."
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111371

hint...I found the best way (for me) was to copy and paste the changes from the link directly into your Dials.cfg. file...then erase the "make change here suggestions".

[Urge]

Sure the clickable dial "mod."
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111371

hint...I found the best way (for me) was to copy and paste the changes from the link directly into your Dials.cfg. file...then erase the "make change here suggestions".

What mods are you running? I couldn't get it to work even after manually inputting the changes. Urge

[Seminole]

I'm not using any mods. I have parts of a mod or two plus a few things I did myself to dress up the sim...but nothing really major.

I wouldn't think any mod would effect it unless you applied them after you altered the Dials.cfg file. (You did make sure of the right file..it is in the Documets/SH4 folder...right?)


(Pssst...It took me a few times of playing around with it before I got the hang of inputting far ranges where I wanted them.) I went to the sub school artillery lesson and practiced with it. You have to left click and hold down, then drag the dial around to the indicator...then hit the red triangle.