So what is a decent Helo sim nowadays?

[Mush Martin]

So what is a decent Helo sim nowadays?

[Oberon]

EECH with all the mods :up:

[Mush Martin]

Thanks Oberon it looks really good :up::up:

[XabbaRus]

A guy called Arneh should be coming out with a functioning 3D Hind cockpit in the nearish future. The 3D Apache cockpit he did is amazing.

[Mush Martin]

I think an Mi 24 would kind of be fun for an afternoon ride.
:up:

[FIREWALL]

What kind of flight controllers do you use to fly a Helo ?

[Skybird]

What kind of flight controllers do you use to fly a Helo ?
HOTAS (stick, throttle), and pedals. Purists may reverse the z-axis (throttle), do adress the collective.

EECH looks okay, but the "flightmodel" is arcade.

Check the videos and previews for Blackshark at simHQ - now THAT promises to become a sim.

P.S. Available at youtube as well. check these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1FYIVMn9zs&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuDGoEpSBOI&feature=related

[XabbaRus]

I wouldn't call it arcade. In fact I haven't seen a sim yet that models a helos flight model correctly.

EECH isn't that bad of an FM really.....

Blackshark actually looks rubbish. Pretty for sure but I think it will be a big let down.

[Mush Martin]

Ok its decided, I just love the way Xabbarus says the word "Rubbish"

I will try EECH when I can.
thanks all.
M

[SUBMAN1]

I wouldn't call it arcade. In fact I haven't seen a sim yet that models a helos flight model correctly....One word - X-Plane. Only real Helo flight you are going to get since it is based on mathmatical models of airflow over surfaces as taken by NASA, instead of a fake model as found in FlightSim X for example. Flightsim X uses a fake model in that they take into account airspeed and what the aircraft is supposed to do in a given situation.

XPlane will instead compute airflow over the rotor blades as it moves through the air at multple different points. If a rotor blade point stalls in a given flight regime, that is taken into account and computed on the effect of the flight itself.

The downside to X-Planes method - to get proper airflow calculation, you must maintain a certain number of FPS. FPS is not an issue with Flightsim X, but its critical to get a proper flight model out of X-Plane. Drop below a certain FPS, and your flightmodel in X-Plane will drop back to a fake one as found in Flightsim X.

-S

[ajrimmer42]

EECH with all the mods :up:

Any chance of some links to these mods? I've downloaded the "Full Mod Updater V3" from FileFront, is that what you're suggesting?

[Oberon]

http://www.eechcentral.com/ (http://www.eechcentral.com/)

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2366722#Post2366722 (http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2366722#Post2366722)

[ajrimmer42]

Cheers mate! :up:

[LobsterBoy]

Also keep a look out for a new sim DCS: Black Shark due out later this year (or early next) which stars the KA-50 but will add other platforms later (AH-64). I've not done any testing, but read reports that the flight model should be realistic enough that I'll crash a lot :rotfl:

Anyway the website is www.digitalcombatsimulator.com