Obama thinks the National Athem is a form of oppression?

[SUBMAN1]

I wonder what Snopes has to say on this one? Someone research it for me - I'm getting tired tonight.

-S

Obama Explains National Anthem Stance -

Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.



According to the United States Code, Tit le 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171...... During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.



'As I've said about the flag pin, I do n't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.

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WHAAAAAAAT???????
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for one, am speechless . .

[Stealth Hunter]

WHAAAAAAAT???????
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for one, am speechless . .

:roll:

They complain about everything, just like when Howard Dean made that yell. Who gives a damn what it sounded like? You shouldn't care about simple thinks like that; just ask yourself if they'd be a good president... So long as you agree with their politics, go for it.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Of course SUBMAN disagrees with his politics. But why post about Obama's politics when you can post unsubstantiated rumors from your email inbox? Much more fun.

Here y'are SUBMAN:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp

PD

[Platapus]

Well you have to admit for a country that claims that it is supporting peace it is strange that our national anthem focuses on rockets and bombs used to kill people.

"And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution."

Sure makes me all giddy and stuff.

When people don't want to address the issues, they focus on minutia like wearing American flag pins made in China.

I am coming up on 30 years of service to my country and I have never wore a Chinese pin to work. I guess some would call me unpatriotic.

BTW I would like to see a citation that this is what Senator Obama actually said. Not saying that there lies and misrepresentations about Senator Obama on the Internet....OK I am saying that. If you can't produce a citation, I guess it didn't happen. If you have a citation, let's see it.

[Tchocky]

I wonder what Snopes has to say on this one? Someone research it for me - I'm getting tired tonight.
Three seconds of Google really took it out of me.

Think I'll lie down for a bit.


So sleepy.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_say_the_national_anthem_conveys.html


In this case, the joke is the message falsely quoting Obama, and it's on whomever is gullible enough to believe it's true.

[jpm1]

Well you have to admit for a country that claims that it is supporting peace it is strange that our national anthem focuses on rockets and bombs used to kill people.

"And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution."

Sure makes me all giddy and stuff.

When people don't want to address the issues, they focus on minutia like wearing American flag pins made in China.

I am coming up on 30 years of service to my country and I have never wore a Chinese pin to work. I guess some would call me unpatriotic.

BTW I would like to see a citation that this is what Senator Obama actually said. Not saying that there lies and misrepresentations about Senator Obama on the Internet....OK I am saying that. If you can't produce a citation, I guess it didn't happen. If you have a citation, let's see it.

yes it seems strange

[August]

Sure makes me all giddy and stuff.

Now why would it? To me the Chinese anthem sounds like someone torturing a bunch of cats but I wouldn't presume to bad mouth it. ;)

[SUBMAN1]

But you guys missed the biggest point of all - maybe Obama didn't say these exact words, but actions speak louder than any words. Snopes 'confirms' he didn't have his hand over his heart when the National Anthem was played.

I could care LESS what he said or did not say after this!!!!

-S

[XabbaRus]

So when I lived in America I should have put my hand on my heart when the US national anthem was played? Actually I noticed quite a few Americans not having their hand on their heart but they sang with gusto.

Oh and one thing to do with this, when I lived in the US I got hassled cos I didn't put my hand on my heart even though I'm British and therefore under no obligation to....so I can see where this is coming from.

[SUBMAN1]

So when I lived in America I should have put my hand on my heart when the US national anthem was played? Actually I noticed quite a few Americans not having their hand on their heart but they sang with gusto.

Oh and one thing to do with this, when I lived in the US I got hassled cos I didn't put my hand on my heart even though I'm British and therefore under no obligation to....so I can see where this is coming from.You are not talking some civilian - you are talking possibly the president of the United States not doing this! That is the most dispicable and disrespectful thing ever possible for someone holding office in this country! He doesn't care about it! Yet he wants to govern over it?

Give me a break! He should be stripped of his office right now!

-S

[Enigma]

You are not talking some civilian - you are talking possibly the president of the United States not doing this! That is the most dispicable and disrespectful thing ever possible for someone holding office in this country! He doesn't care about it! Yet he wants to govern over it?

Give me a break! He should be stripped of his office right now!

EVERYBODY PANIC!

:lol:

You crack me up Sub.

[SUBMAN1]

EVERYBODY PANIC! ...I do. That tells me he plans to undermine my country.

-S

[Enigma]

Well, I guess that makes you a paranoid mess. What can I tell ya...

[SUBMAN1]

Well, I guess that makes you a paranoid mess. What can I tell ya...If your possibly elected leader has no plans or feelings in the strength of ones nation, and to say there is not a problem, I'd have to say that you are one ignorant messed up individual Enigma when it comes to politics and your future outlook.

-S

[Takeda Shingen]

Well, I guess that makes you a paranoid mess. What can I tell ya...

Let's not call names.

The Management

[Platapus]

EVERYBODY PANIC! ...I do. That tells me he plans to undermine my country.

-S


Tell you what subman, you do the American thing and cast your vote for another person.

Let the rest of us make up our own minds concerning our election.

You seem to dislike Obama as a candidate and that's great. In November you will have your chance to let your opinions known through the concept of elections.

We know you don't like Obama. We understand that you feel that Obama, in your opinion, would not be a good president.

I hope we are not going to be bombarded with anti-Obama threads up until the election. I don't think you will convert any one here.

[Hakahura]

Of course SUBMAN disagrees with his politics. But why post about Obama's politics when you can post unsubstantiated rumors from your email inbox? Much more fun.

Here y'are SUBMAN:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp)


PD

Thanks for that link, NOT !
:nope:
That site is popup central !
:nope:
Beware.
:down:

Never did read anything off it, I was to busy closing ********** popups:damn:

[SUBMAN1]

EVERYBODY PANIC! ...I do. That tells me he plans to undermine my country.

-S

Tell you what subman, you do the American thing and cast your vote for another person.

Let the rest of us make up our own minds concerning our election.

You seem to dislike Obama as a candidate and that's great. In November you will have your chance to let your opinions known through the concept of elections.

We know you don't like Obama. We understand that you feel that Obama, in your opinion, would not be a good president.

I hope we are not going to be bombarded with anti-Obama threads up until the election. I don't think you will convert any one here.I don't plan to convert anyone at all! I just want the truth to be know, and if you still want to bury your head in the sand, that is your prerogatived!

-S

[Enigma]

More of the same. Zzzzzzzz.

[SUBMAN1]

More of the same. Zzzzzzzz.If you don't like the truth, don't read it. But you can't seem to help yourself it seems! :D

-S

[mrbeast]

I don't plan to convert anyone at all! I just want the truth to be know, and if you still want to bury your head in the sand, that is your prerogatived!-S

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Thats a good one Subman! Keep em coming! :lol:

Wants the truth to be known and then starts a thread about a very obvious bunch of right-wing propaganda! :roll:

BTW Subman you can always tell commies because they don't put their hands on their heart when they sing the national anthem. ;) :nope:

[SUBMAN1]

...Wants the truth to be known and then starts a thread about a very obvious bunch of right-wing propaganda! :roll: ...

I see you forgot to read the first post then. Read it and then come back here. How many times do I have to tell you this kind of stuff? One day you will get it. I have faith in you! :D

-S

PS. Since you might have a hard time finding it, let me help you this one time - seems even I was asking for the truth on that one. Imagine that?:

I wonder what Snopes has to say on this one? Someone research it for me - I'm getting tired tonight.

[Zachstar]

But you guys missed the biggest point of all - maybe Obama didn't say these exact words, but actions speak louder than any words. Snopes 'confirms' he didn't have his hand over his heart when the National Anthem was played.

I could care LESS what he said or did not say after this!!!!

-S

Im sorry maybe I missed the point that the OP was exposed.

Fail

[Zachstar]

So when I lived in America I should have put my hand on my heart when the US national anthem was played? Actually I noticed quite a few Americans not having their hand on their heart but they sang with gusto.

Oh and one thing to do with this, when I lived in the US I got hassled cos I didn't put my hand on my heart even though I'm British and therefore under no obligation to....so I can see where this is coming from.You are not talking some civilian - you are talking possibly the president of the United States not doing this! That is the most dispicable and disrespectful thing ever possible for someone holding office in this country! He doesn't care about it! Yet he wants to govern over it?

Give me a break! He should be stripped of his office right now!

-S

And you ought to be banned from subsim.

See the difference? I don't

[Zachstar]

Well, I guess that makes you a paranoid mess. What can I tell ya...If your possibly elected leader has no plans or feelings in the strength of ones nation, and to say there is not a problem, I'd have to say that you are one ignorant messed up individual Enigma when it comes to politics and your future outlook.

-S

Wow resorting to name calling.

So when do you go to the part of acceptance?

[Zachstar]

I don't plan to convert anyone at all! I just want the truth to be know, and if you still want to bury your head in the sand, that is your prerogatived!-S
:rotfl: :rotfl:

Thats a good one Subman! Keep em coming! :lol:

Wants the truth to be known and then starts a thread about a very obvious bunch of right-wing propaganda! :roll:

BTW Subman you can always tell commies because they don't put their hands on their heart when they sing the national anthem. ;) :nope:
Yes and the conspiricy that is global warming lol!

Only thing we are missing is a thread on how supposedly Obama was responsible for the moon hoax!

LoL Subman1 got OWN3D!!

[SUBMAN1]

Did you come here to say anything constructive Zachstar? Or just to directly attack me?

-S

[Takeda Shingen]

This is the second thread I've had to lock today. If this keeps up, I'll have to start issuing some 24-hour 'timeouts'. Let's not go that route. Zachstar, you're going a little far here. SUBMAN1, you are doing the same thing across several different threads. This will serve as my last warning to both of you.

The Management