So how good is U Boat Missions?

[Schwuppes]

Hi everyone!

I have been playing SH3 with GWX for a while now... and now I'm thinking of trying SH4 again. However the first time I tired it I didn't like it that much.... I dunno I just don't like playing the american subs, and somehow the whole game just didn't feel right.

So I thought I'd give the U boat missions add-on a go. Can I start playing it straight away, or would it be better to play standard SH4 first?
I.e I don't want to miss out on any important story elements that might be interconnected between SH4 and U Boat missions. Also how is the patch situation... is U Boat missions stable and relatively bug free?

cheers!

[MDV_4life]

Hi everyone!

I have been playing SH3 with GWX for a while now... and now I'm thinking of trying SH4 again. However the first time I tired it I didn't like it that much.... I dunno I just don't like playing the american subs, and somehow the whole game just didn't feel right.

So I thought I'd give the U boat missions add-on a go. Can I start playing it straight away, or would it be better to play standard SH4 first?
I.e I don't want to miss out on any important story elements that might be interconnected between SH4 and U Boat missions. Also how is the patch situation... is U Boat missions stable and relatively bug free?

cheers!

Ok sinse i have downloaded the u boat missions i will be so free to answer your questions :D.

Yes the German subs give you a whole different feeling and once you play with them i get the feeling i don't want to play with the US subs again.

I use the Spax sound mod with some changes like in the Thomsons sound mod. I.e. i removed the Yahoowl Herr Kallouin, edited sound sounds of the tubes firing (mixed them) and so on.

But now more about the game. I'm just starting to play and i had a problom with the TDC. You know the PK with the US subs ? .. well you don't have the visual picture of how your sub is against the target.
So you wil have to get familiar with this.

Why should you wait with playing the game? Yes i think you should first train for a couple of days with the US ones but then you're reading to go .

If you have some more questions feel free to ask. :up:

[Schwuppes]

Hi thanks for the answer!

Is the manual targeting in U.Boat Missions similar to SH3 or OLC GUI?

And does U-Boat Missions have a dynamic career mode were I can play an entire carreer in the Pacific with a German U-Boat?

[Frame57]

I think you will like it. I got burned out on SH4 and this gave it new life. Yes there are dynamic campaigns. You get to choose a few ports, all that have various missions. There are some surprizes in it, so I will not spoil your fun here. definitely fun, Ubisoft did good on this one, and I have had no "bugs". The only draw back is that my crew does not speak german????

[MDV_4life]

I think you will like it. I got burned out on SH4 and this gave it new life. Yes there are dynamic campaigns. You get to choose a few ports, all that have various missions. There are some surprizes in it, so I will not spoil your fun here. definitely fun, Ubisoft did good on this one, and I have had no "bugs". The only draw back is that my crew does not speak german????

Did you tryed a sound mod ? :p

I'm sure you're gonna like it. Why not like it when you enjoy playing SH4.
Well i never payed a single buck for the game so i can't be disapointed really but its a great game :up:

[Frame57]

I think you will like it. I got burned out on SH4 and this gave it new life. Yes there are dynamic campaigns. You get to choose a few ports, all that have various missions. There are some surprizes in it, so I will not spoil your fun here. definitely fun, Ubisoft did good on this one, and I have had no "bugs". The only draw back is that my crew does not speak german????

Did you tryed a sound mod ? :p

I'm sure you're gonna like it. Why not like it when you enjoy playing SH4.
Well i never payed a single buck for the game so i can't be disapointed really but its a great game :up:No, Have not ried a sound Mod. The reason is that I find when I try to Mod Sh4 all I get are system crashes.

[MDV_4life]

No, Have not ried a sound Mod. The reason is that I find when I try to Mod Sh4 all I get are system crashes.
Are you activating your mods with JSGME ?

[germannoob]

I play UBM with TMO, RSRD, OM, PE, and various soundmods.

I must say, it cracked me up. The "Operation Paukenschlag" is very awesome, the sounds feels like getting a orgasm and when you are attacked by destroyers with "wabos" after firing some fishes, you'll probably know how hard the work was on these days.

I like it, and in my opinion it rocks more than SH3 when mod's are installed.

[MDV_4life]

I play UBM with TMO, RSRD, OM, PE, and various soundmods.

I must say, it cracked me up. The "Operation Paukenschlag" is very awesome, the sounds feels like getting a orgasm and when you are attacked by destroyers with "wabos" after firing some fishes, you'll probably know how hard the work was on these days.

I like it, and in my opinion it rocks more than SH3 when mod's are installed.

You should try the RFB mod that is sticky'ed on top of the SH4 mod workshop

They have new sounds and a little bit different gameplay . I like it only i will delete the sounds except a couple . :up:

[germannoob]

I won't use RFB only for the sounds. Were too lazy to install through JSGME and too lazy too to reinstall the game.
I don't know what's the difference of these two mods as the modders don't write something like this: file xyz does change abc...

[MDV_4life]

I won't use RFB only for the sounds. Were too lazy to install through JSGME and too lazy too to reinstall the game.
I don't know what's the difference of these two mods as the modders don't write something like this: file xyz does change abc...
You have to reinstall the game ? Not in my case.
RFB worked fine untill i started editing it. Now it keeps crashing when my mission is loading, i'm working on the problem.

If you are keep beeing lazy then you will end up on street because you were to lazy to work for you money :p Just use your finger to click on download button and some further clicking. And if you don't know the difference then stop being so lazy so you actually read the tread where the mod is posted :up:

[Schwuppes]

Hi guys!

Just another quick question... how good is the enemy AI in SH4 and UBM in general?

In stock SH3 for example the enemy destroyers are a little weak, but this is greatly fixed by the GWX mod for example.

[MDV_4life]

Hi guys!

Just another quick question... how good is the enemy AI in SH4 and UBM in general?

In stock SH3 for example the enemy destroyers are a little weak, but this is greatly fixed by the GWX mod for example.
I didn't noticed any changes, just as anoying - stupid - sitting ducks as usual. :p Just buy it, you won't be disapointed. I like the crazy germans.
I can't care about the world war, it's all over. As long as it is cool and it's just a game. Playing with the germans gives you the war feeling. Playing with the US subs didn't gave me such a YEAAAA feeling when sending a ship to the bottom with a salvo of torpedoes manual set in the conning tower.

With the US subs you have to do set the torpedo settings in the periscope view, with the german subs you can do it seen from the inside from the conning tower. Except depth i think.

[germannoob]

When you see how the britains are working, you'll be wondering, why the germans lost the war.:p

Got a convoy contact and tried to attack. Send a contact Message and got back "Destroy the escorts". mh...ok. As they heard me (they MUST have heart me, 'cause my well traineed sonarman said, that the escort captain farted) 1 of them stopped immediately while 2 others speeded up and turn into my direction. Well, shot the standing one and got deep. After the charges emergency blow to periscope depth, came a bit surfaced, but got down again very quick. That was too much for the guys: all stopped while the freighters were moving away.

On the other hand: with light fog you get sight contacts in a range of some kilometers where I can't see the enemy. But they see me...:damn:

[Frame57]

No, Have not ried a sound Mod. The reason is that I find when I try to Mod Sh4 all I get are system crashes.
Are you activating your mods with JSGME ?No I tried some mods from another site and had immense problems. But I may try some that are offered here.

[Monica Lewinsky]

Hi everyone!
So I thought I'd give the U boat missions add-on a go

I LOVE it!

[germannoob]

No I tried some mods from another site and had immense problems. But I may try some that are offered here.

I've no problems. But for the first:Maybe you wanna try out TMO + RSRD + OM. You will be surpriced. Especially the "moving within the boat like with the free cam" is awesome stuff. Be sure to read the readme and the top post of the thread.

[MDV_4life]

No I tried some mods from another site and had immense problems. But I may try some that are offered here.
I've no problems. But for the first:Maybe you wanna try out TMO + RSRD + OM. You will be surpriced. Especially the "moving within the boat like with the free cam" is awesome stuff. Be sure to read the readme and the top post of the thread.

Or you just try RFB :yep:

[Schwuppes]

What is TMO?

[germannoob]

TMO = Trigger Maru Overhauled; it's a mod which improves many aspects and goes for playability rather than for realism.
RFB = Real Fleet Boat; it's also a mod which improves many aspects, but goes for realism.

I haven't tried RFB, but have reinstalled SH4. Now I'm going to give it a try.

[MDV_4life]

TMO = Trigger Maru Overhauled; it's a mod which improves many aspects and goes for playability rather than for realism.
RFB = Real Fleet Boat; it's also a mod which improves many aspects, but goes for realism.

I haven't tried RFB, but have reinstalled SH4. Now I'm going to give it a try.

When i first started playing SH4 you heared a clicking sound like when you moved the scopes around. Any idea how you get it back ??

[maerean_m]

When i first started playing SH4 you heared a clicking sound like when you moved the scopes around. Any idea how you get it back ??
The sound is made by the dial indicating the bearing on left side of the screen (in the American campaign). So, when playing with automatic targeting, the dial is updated on every move of the periscope and the repeated click sound is heard (after each 5 degrees of rotation; see the Dial11 in data\Menu\cfg\Dials.cfg).

The periscope does not make sounds while rotating, so there is no sound in the German campaign because there is no dial like that in the periscope station.

[MDV_4life]

When i first started playing SH4 you heared a clicking sound like when you moved the scopes around. Any idea how you get it back ??
The sound is made by the dial indicating the bearing on left side of the screen (in the American campaign). So, when playing with automatic targeting, the dial is updated on every move of the periscope and the repeated click sound is heard (after each 5 degrees of rotation; see the Dial11 in data\Menu\cfg\Dials.cfg).

The periscope does not make sounds while rotating, so there is no sound in the German campaign because there is no dial like that in the periscope station.
Sorry for the late respons ( am on vacation for the moment )

But anyway, in the RFB Menu File I still see a Dial cfg.
And I never used auto targeting ( never never never :p )

Otherwise...If I would take the Dial cnf file from the stock game and replace it in the RFB mod. Would that put the sound back ? Or would it change other stuf too. Like the bearing indifictations and so on ?

[Gigalocus]

Hey, I've only fooishly found out about this expansion ... only 5months late. :oops:

From the sounds of it, its exactly what I'm looking for! I however have some questions.

1)Does it do anything to help out graphical issues? In Vanilla, despite having a top notch computer, my SHIV had very very poor visuals. Unifroms glowed green, lines were constantly blurry, with the main outline of things shaking, even at close range.

I was expierencing nowhere near the graphics official screenshots show, but not even close to to yours :(, couple this with the glowing green belts, hats, arms and bright red control room. So does Uboats help me in anyway with this? Or am I missing something?

2) Anywhere I can get it cheap ? :up:

3) Are only the IX and XXI Uboats available?

4) How well does it hold up historically? Does the campaign map advance like it should ala SHIV or SHIII (Losing ports, less surface fleets etc?)

5) Will I finally be up agaisn't British ships again? :p Or will I expect the USN in India?

6) What's the Admiral Hipper, Graf Spee, Duestcheland etc doing in Asia? :-?

7) Are there new allied surface ships?

8) Any stability problem? Will I crash if I hit Alt or anything?

9) Any good mods avalible yet?

Thanks in advance. :D

[raymond6751]

Well, there are a lot of positive posts here about the U-boat addon. My experience with it tells me you want to use it with mods. The reason is that the stock addon doesn't have good missions and campaign game.

I took my first boat all the way to Tokyo, expecting to encounter something...didn't.

There were no planned missions after that one...just go hunting.

I was disapointed too with the port of Singapore. They represented it like a jungle village with straw huts. This was a major city & port.

The mods, once again, will take UBI where it should have gone.:doh:

[Raptor1]

Hey, I've only fooishly found out about this expansion ... only 5months late. :oops:

From the sounds of it, its exactly what I'm looking for! I however have some questions.

1)Does it do anything to help out graphical issues? In Vanilla, despite having a top notch computer, my SHIV had very very poor visuals. Unifroms glowed green, lines were constantly blurry, with the main outline of things shaking, even at close range.

I was expierencing nowhere near the graphics official screenshots show, but not even close to to yours :(, couple this with the glowing green belts, hats, arms and bright red control room. So does Uboats help me in anyway with this? Or am I missing something?

2) Anywhere I can get it cheap ? :up:

3) Are only the IX and XXI Uboats available?

4) How well does it hold up historically? Does the campaign map advance like it should ala SHIV or SHIII (Losing ports, less surface fleets etc?)

5) Will I finally be up agaisn't British ships again? :p Or will I expect the USN in India?

6) What's the Admiral Hipper, Graf Spee, Duestcheland etc doing in Asia? :-?

7) Are there new allied surface ships?

8) Any stability problem? Will I crash if I hit Alt or anything?

9) Any good mods avalible yet?

Thanks in advance. :D
2. Pretty much anywhere, no?

3. IX-D2 and XVIII, no XXI

4. It's not that realistic, more of a what-if campaign (The ports and stuff are taken historically though, I think)

5. Yeah, tons of British to sink

6. Well, Scheer was in the Indian Ocean for a while, but they are kinda unhistorical

7. Think they have the Black Swan and a few merchants or something like that

8. Nope

9. Yes, Operation Monsoon makes the campaign more historical

Overall, I recommed it

[rls669]

I've stuck with SH3 and GWX so far, but I'm tempted by the U-boat add-on for SH4. One question: does 1920x1080 widescreen work properly?

[keltos01]

get the add on, and if you're tired of the german boats try my Jyunsen B - Kaidai -Kaichu IJN submarines mod version 2.1, you'll get 3 different types of boats, and the famous "long lance" japanese topedoes.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=137761


keltos

download link :

http://files.filefront.com/v+21+IJN+Sub+mod+Jyunsenirar/;11062974;/fileinfo.html

And install this patch on top of the mod :

http://files.filefront.com/UPCDataGE+jyunsen+Brar/;11071044;/fileinfo.html

then you'll get the AA crew

[Bosje]

so.... much like some other posters on this thread, I am loving SH3 with gwx while I got bored with SHIV after a couple of days. Love the sailing, hate the combat. Doesn't feel right to me, too.

Currently contemplating to get my hands on the addon, after watching some screenies and vids.

my main question: I heard something about the GWX team being on this, to provide us with a dynamic Atlantic campaign including all the excellent stuff we are spoilt with on SH3 GWX, but inside the SHIV engine. That would mean sailing from France in a Type VII, hunting the halifax convoys etc etc etc, only with the added benefit of the SHIV eye candy experience.

is this even remotely correct? if so, can someone pinch me?

[PanzerBoxb]

/pinch

I have read they are working on it but they are not anticipating a release until sometime well into 2009.

[Bosje]

maybe ubi can just hire those wizards and have them looking over the devteam's shoulders as they create a new game, taking the best from GWX, SH3 and SH4 while making a historically accurate subsim game.

they could call it, say, SH5
:arrgh!:

[PanzerBoxb]

Nope, doing something that logical would be outside Ubi's standard operating procedure. ;)

[Kloef]

I have a simple question,i just bought this add-on..

Does it contain single missions,or war patrols?Cause they show empty in the list,when i use change sides the U.S missions pop up,but not vice versa:-?

[AVGWarhawk]

I have a simple question,i just bought this add-on..

Does it contain single missions,or war patrols?Cause they show empty in the list,when i use change sides the U.S missions pop up,but not vice versa:-?

No single missions. or war patrols were created in the add on.

[Kloef]

Ok thanks for the quick answer..:up:

[MDV_4life]

Ok thanks for the quick answer..:up: You can download the UBM Mission Pack and enable it with JSGME.
Do a little search here on the forum and you will find it.

The pack contains war patrols and single missions and maybe some more.

Cheeers.

[Kloef]

Thanks i will try that:up: