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clive bradbury
06-27-08, 06:39 PM
The wrong lemonade

The UK legal system also seems to have lost any sense of proportion. Christopher Ratte, a professor of archaeology, recently tried to buy his seven-year-old son a bottle of lemonade at a cricket match. He was handed a bottle of Mike's Hard Lemonade, an alcoholic drink, by mistake. Officials noticed the boy sipping the drink and immediately whisked him off to hospital. He was fine. But the family was condemned to legal hell: the police at first put the seven-year-old into a foster home and a judge ruled that he could go home only if his father moved out. It took several days of legal wrangling to reunite the family.

Letum
06-27-08, 07:31 PM
:rotfl:

Only in the UK?!
Cricket match?!

Where did you get this from?

This happed in America at a baseball game! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280375/%26imw=Y)

I wonder what the motive was for changing it to the UK...
Care to explain?

*edit* Original source here before it was doctored. (http://www.economist.co.uk/research/articlesBySubject/displaystory.cfm?subjectid=3856663&story_id=11332246)

:shifty:

I think the UK and Europe's attitude to alcohol is a little more robust.

Sailor Steve
06-27-08, 07:48 PM
Holy Indiana Jones, Bat-Letum; he's an archeology professor!

Thanks for posting that second link. Not to go too far off topic, but I've been thinking about that same loss of freedom lately. See, here (as probably with everywhere else) we have a property tax. If you don't pay your property tax they will take away your property (car, house, land). Funny thing is, the U.S. Constitution - I'm sure you've heard it mentioned once or twice here - says, right in the text "No man shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law." So, they put a tax on property and call it "due process". I call it a government-sanctioned protection racket. So why not a 'Liberty Tax?' "Give us money or go to jail"! 'Life Tax?' Sometimes I think the only reason they don't have those is that they know we wouldn't stand for it. Another bloody revolution.

But a 'Property Tax'? That we'll take lying down. It's just a little liberty.

Letum
06-27-08, 07:55 PM
See, here (as probably with everywhere else) we have a property tax.

Not here!

There is a council tax if you have a house to pay for waste disposal and council run
services etc. and road tax if you use your car on roads, but nothing that I would call
"property tax".

Sailor Steve
06-27-08, 07:57 PM
Well, here it isn't Federal. They get away with it mainly because it's done by the states (maybe not even all of them - I don't know).

But it still bugs me.

Letum
06-27-08, 08:00 PM
I bet.
I'm a high-tax-high-spend chap, but I don't like the sound of property tax one bit.
Not as bad as poll tax / head tax perhaps.

Do you still have that in the US?
*edit* No, you don't.


*edit* Anyone one want to have a guess at the motive behind the UK/US Baseball/Cricket switch?

Sailor Steve
06-27-08, 08:12 PM
Not a clue. And I hate to guess - I'm almost always wrong.

STEED
06-28-08, 05:47 AM
The wrong lemonade

The UK legal system also seems to have lost any sense of proportion. Christopher Ratte, a professor of archaeology, recently tried to buy his seven-year-old son a bottle of lemonade at a cricket match. He was handed a bottle of Mike's Hard Lemonade, an alcoholic drink, by mistake. Officials noticed the boy sipping the drink and immediately whisked him off to hospital. He was fine. But the family was condemned to legal hell: the police at first put the seven-year-old into a foster home and a judge ruled that he could go home only if his father moved out. It took several days of legal wrangling to reunite the family.

Typical Nanny State. :nope:

clive bradbury
06-28-08, 05:54 AM
:rotfl:

Only in the UK?!
Cricket match?!

Where did you get this from?

This happed in America at a baseball game! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280375/%26imw=Y)

I wonder what the motive was for changing it to the UK...
Care to explain?

*edit* Original source here before it was doctored

:shifty:

I think the UK and Europe's attitude to alcohol is a little more robust.

A friend mailed it to me as a British thing - you're right - it does seem to be a US event.

Letum
06-28-08, 08:05 AM
Typical Nanny State. :nope:
Few would call the US a nanny state. :doh:

STEED
06-28-08, 10:55 AM
Typical Nanny State. :nope:
Few would call the US a nanny state. :doh:

Sounds like this Nanny State is going world wide. :o

nikimcbee
06-29-08, 01:24 AM
Typical Nanny State. :nope:
Few would call the US a nanny state. :doh: That depends which state you are talking about. There are more than enough nanny states in the US.
Like Minnesota, if it's fun, it's illeagal.:shifty:

mrbeast
06-29-08, 05:38 AM
*edit* Anyone one want to have a guess at the motive behind the UK/US Baseball/Cricket switch?

Hmmm, could it be that certain sections of the UK media (well the conservative bits.....Daily Mail anyone?) are going hell bent to print spurious, often half true or even practically fabricated stories of how bad the world/society/the country is now, how 'PC Madness' is running rampant, how imigrants are taking all the jobs and get given everything free on the taxpayer etc etc blah blah blah.........all to induce a degree of fear in society therefore making people more receptive to a right-wing political agenda?:hmm:

Letum
06-29-08, 06:39 AM
*edit* Anyone one want to have a guess at the motive behind the UK/US Baseball/Cricket switch?
Hmmm, could it be that certain sections of the UK media (well the conservative bits.....Daily Mail anyone?) are going hell bent to print spurious, often half true or even practically fabricated stories of how bad the world/society/the country is now, how 'PC Madness' is running rampant, how imigrants are taking all the jobs and get given everything free on the taxpayer etc etc blah blah blah.........all to induce a degree of fear in society therefore making people more receptive to a right-wing political agenda?:hmm:

Couldn't have said it better. ;)

Jimbuna
06-29-08, 09:22 AM
Tory backed propaganda.

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3960/animsmileybarfha4.gif

StdDev
06-29-08, 09:27 AM
That depends which state you are talking about. There are more than enough nanny states in the US.
Like Minnesota, if it's fun, it's illeagal.:shifty:

Sounds more like a State of Depression...

Now CA.. thats the State of Anemia.. they'll bleed ya dry

I think New York is the State of Confusion..

Platapus
06-29-08, 09:34 AM
While I agree that the law enforcement/child protection people over reacted, I also wonder about the father.

What parent would not at least check the label before letting their kid drink something. it is not like the hard lemonade bottle looks anything remotely like a bottle of "plain" lemonade?

Parents still do have the responsibility of knowing whether they are handing their kid an alcoholic drink or not. :yep:

The fact is that the 7 year old was drinking an alcoholic drink and that aint good. :nope:

However, the negligence of the parent, in this situation, does not warrant such a response from the state.