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Defiance
06-12-08, 06:41 AM
Hiya's,

New Drivers from Nvidia http://files.filefront.com/WinVista6417726rar/;10612722;/fileinfo.html Vista x64 ONLY

New Drivers from Nvidia http://files.filefront.com/WinVista3217726rar/;10612721;/fileinfo.html Vista x86 ONLY

New Drivers from Nvidia http://files.filefront.com/WinXP3217726rar/;10612411;/fileinfo.html XP x86 ONLY

New Drivers from Nvidia http://files.filefront.com/WinXP6417726rar/;10611888;/fileinfo.html XP x64 ONLY

These are the leaked ones, I am running them in Vista Ultimate x64

They have cured my nvlddmkm.sys problems and also my black-screen-lockups in vista ultimate x64 using sh4 1.5



1st you need to get and install "Drive Sweeper" get it at guru3d.com, As this is the only cleaner i have tested things on ;)


In my vista setup i do Not have UAC enabled, If you have you can either disable it or try with it on (your choice)




Method, Install Drive Sweeper/Save the driver to desktop and then extract to desktop

1: From vista control panel, programmes and features, Remove the vidcard drivers there,

2: Reboot into Safe Mode (keep tapping F8 as pc reboots and choose Safe)

3: Use Drivesweeper and remove the card drivers, CLOSE Drivesweeper and do the removal again !!

5: Find where the previous driver root folder was EG: C:\NVIDIA (find the nvidia folder) now delete this folder

5: Restart PC and it will bootup normal, If you're asked to install anything just click No etc

6: Now in to desktop, In the driver folder you opened sometime ago ;) Start the install by using the normal Setup.exe

Do Not worry about the Asus Bitmap image (they leaked the drivers you see lol)

7: Follow any prompts to reboot etc

If you have problems post back



I stress use Drivesweeper as it's the only tool i've checked that fully does what i need it to do

So copy n save this info to notepad etc so you can use it as you need


Have Fun

Ciao

Def

Defiance
06-12-08, 06:47 AM
If some people don't want to do the above

If you post back i'll upload the specific OS driver

But i've tried to explain easily and it's not hard to do (Trust Me lol)

These look and work solid so far in my Vista x64 setup

Bit of info

They were for the new very soon to released nvidia cards

With the modded .infs they support all the 4 major MS OS's :)

Hope that Helps

Ciao

Def

Arclight
06-12-08, 08:26 AM
I don't say this often when it comes to computer stuff, but I don't get it:

(first tried installing directly from extracted "A" archive, without copy/paste steps)

1: Unrar/zip/7 "B" and find your OS .INF and copy it;
-- right click on archive > "extract here" > creates folder "B" > copied C:\...\B\XP 32\nv4_disp.inf

2: Now unrar/zip/7 "A" (this is XP x86 so if you want XP driver just use this);
-- right click on archive > "extract here" > creates folder "XP"

3: With your copied .INF for your OS go into "B" (don't you mean "A"/"XP", "B" is where I copied the .INF in the first place) and paste the copied .INF for your OS; -- C:\...\XP\ > right click, "paste" > "overwrite?", "yes" (files appear identical)

4: Either save the folder and call it what you like or rar it etc;
-- Moved the folder to C:\ (root) and renamed "NVIDIA" (like official installer)

5: So now you have a driver that will work in your OS
-- :shifty:

6: If not already got DL Drivesweeper n install it
-- got CCleaner, always worked, never any issues

7: Remove installed drivers on pc using windows/vista control panel etc
-- done

8: Reboot in safe mode (hit F8 like a banshee as you reboot pc)
-- done

9: When on desktop run Drivesweeper at least twice a 3rd time won't hurt
-- ran CCleaner, cleaned files + registry

10: Empty recycle bin if needed
-- done

11: Reboot as normal
-- done

12: Install your prepared drivers
-- Ran setup.exe from C:\NVIDIA. First I get an Asus splash, which worried me since I don't have anything Asus. Installer loaded as normal, clicked "next" and installer finished in under 1 second, claiming install succesfull and asks for reboot.

Did reboot; PC acts as if no display driver (sluggish scroll, limited choice of resolutions) and in device manager "display adapters" shows "video controller (vga compatible)" with yellow exclamation mark over icon

13: Enjoy SH 1.5
-- :rotfl:

Defiance
06-12-08, 08:49 AM
Hiya,

Well hmm........

let me fubar my vista x64 with old duff drivers

then i'll follow what i put as the method

if it don't work i know what it is but it's supposed to be fixed lol

gimme a few and i'll post back

pps: the asus screen don't worry, it's them that leaked the driver lol

Ciao

Def

Defiance
06-12-08, 08:52 AM
To clarify

You did use drivesweeper at least twice (in x64 sometimes it catches stuff on 2nd pass)

Which OS are you running ??

Gonna swap over drivers now (if it's what i think it could be it's no biggy just a bit of searching and deleting)

Ciao

Def

Arclight
06-12-08, 09:22 AM
I'm not too worried about the Asus screen, I know it's just a bitmap it loads as a splash, just startled me for a sec. ;)

I'm using CCleaner instead of Driversweeper, been using it for a long time on several systems, never had any driver related issues whatsoever;

I cleaned files + registry 2x right after uninstalling everything Nvidia related, and again 2x after booting into "safe mode". Running XP 32-bit.

Seems like it's not actually installing anything. Switched back to 175.16 without problems, installer took a bit longer to install (5-6sec. instead of just 1sec.).

Defiance
06-12-08, 09:45 AM
Hiya,

Will do a specific readme/howto for vista users asap

Ciao

Def

Arclight
06-12-08, 11:29 AM
I'll have a go at it tonight to see if I can get this to work, and if I do maybe I can put together a readme/instruction set for XP users. Don't even worry about it anymore, I would never expect you to go through that much trouble for someone who doesn't need it that much. ;)

After all, XP + SH4 1.5 works fine for most, it's just that I (and probably others) need those drivers because of issues in other games Nvidia promised to fix in this release. I'll report any findings back on this forum.

Best of luck. :D

Defiance
06-12-08, 12:22 PM
Hiya,

I am testing different install-methods for vista x64

All seems well there and i can either use nvidia's installer or extract all driver files to a folder then update device using update vidcard drivers from control panel etc
:hmm:
I went back to a clean install before i added any drivers, Used 158.54 to get decent base, Then installed 175.16 then 177.26 as i say auto or manual update worked weird

Will check for known good xp inf's and go from there

So what i'm doing is gonna upload the 2 persuasions of Vista Drivers x86 x64 as i know these should work as it's the same system layout

Then after that i will go through the Xp and Xp 64 .inf's and see what's causing the problem

Will edit 1st post as-when needed with links and methods

Yeah if i send you the link for XP x86, And a slimmed down install faq for vista, Maybe you can translate it so to speak into the XP x86 and then do a install guide etc for your OS

Ciao

Def

Defiance
06-12-08, 02:08 PM
Hiya's,

Vista X64 version up with a install method etc

Gotta do a few things then i'll crack on with other OS versions

Ciao

Def

Arclight
06-12-08, 04:20 PM
:damn: :dead:

Mucked around with it some more, no way in heck I'm gonna get this going. If I start changing the contents in the pack I'm gonna do more damage then good. Installer doesn't seem to function for XP (missing a fair number of entries in the registry after supposed succesfull install) and manual install just states that the driver is incompatible with XP. Did some messing in the registry staying within the limits of my (limited) knowhow, without any real results. Just restored it from a backup and I'm gonna leave it alone. Scoured the C:\ drive for remains of old installs that might be acting up, but other than a single uninstaller that got left behind it's clean (you're right, Driver Sweeper does a very proper job :) ).

I'd be glad to serve as guinea pig for your "XP edition" if you get around to it, and I'd be more then happy to peace together some install notes for other XP users. For now all I can do is wait, I guess. :cry:

Defiance
06-12-08, 04:33 PM
Hiya,

Uploading other OS ones now

But my conx is mega slow today (any other time my conx is 100% lol)

Will add links asap

Yeah i have added the .INF's already

So the drivers and the drivesweeper is all that's needed

Yeah that cleaner is the only one i use you see, So i test drivers etc using that


Now looking at it, These in XP x86 (32bit) form might i stress might lose some fps in certain games, But that's just from a forum i glanced across earlier

Should post links in 50mins or so

Ciao

Def

Defiance
06-12-08, 05:22 PM
Hiya's,

All XP/Vista drivers are up

No need to mod the .INF's i've done them all

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

Go4It
06-12-08, 11:02 PM
Get Driver Sweeper from the place that made it: Guru3D
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Generic-Utilities_c8.html
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D---Driver-Sweeper-(no-installer)-download-1672.html

Check out Guru3D forums for tips....

Rip
06-13-08, 12:26 AM
OK I think I have them installed, beginning testing.

Just wanted to pass along a hardy thank you to NVIDIA for screwing the pooch and making me beta test their sloppy drivers for them. Friggin tools!

Oh and one more for MS WHQL labs for making sure that my video drivers didn't have any blue screen system crashing bugs.:88)

Bet they made sure the damn check for the testing cleared though. I just hope they never take over UL testing labs, we may end up with an epidemic of deaths from electrical malfunctions.

:help:

Defiance
06-13-08, 08:17 AM
Heya Rip,

Any chance of the OS version you're using ??

I am back to solely using vista x64 now, So i can't test any other version you see

And just post any probs if any so i can drop the file if it's causing bad issues

Cheers

Ciao

Def

Arclight
06-13-08, 11:00 AM
Ahoy again. :)

Still a no go on XP 32, for me anyway. Tried installer and manual driver update, which claims incompatibility with XP. Device manager lists unknown device, Rivatuner reports no supported drivers installed. Cleanup after attempted install listed just a single entry in the registry. :-?

Defiance
06-13-08, 11:04 AM
Hiya,

Just about backed up all my data etc

Gonna do a vista x86 and a xp x86 dualboot

See if i can figure the problem

Hopefully be up n running in 2hrs so will test later

Cheers for the info

If i knew the OS Rip is using i can count that out as he says his installed fine, I know Vista x64 works like a charm so whatever rips os is (hopefully not vista x64 lol) i could maybe rule2 out of having problems

Ciao

Def

Laffertytig
06-16-08, 10:26 AM
must that driver uninstall process be followed only for card drivers? ar after runnin the driver sweep must i reinstall all other drivers, motherboard etc?

Defiance
06-16-08, 11:13 AM
Hiya,

No, Just uninstall the vid drivers in the driver sweeper

Leave chipset/sound etc as-is

We're just trying to remove the vid files



Ohh now the GTX 280's are out (£500 + in UK lmao) the 177.34's should be out anytime

Running these 177.26's fine in my vista ultimate x64, Not a single problem :)

Loving sh 1.5 in x64 :)

Ciao

Def

Rip
06-16-08, 11:33 PM
Heya Rip,

Any chance of the OS version you're using ??

I am back to solely using vista x64 now, So i can't test any other version you see

And just post any probs if any so i can drop the file if it's causing bad issues

Cheers

Ciao

Def

Same as you.

Defiance
06-17-08, 06:01 AM
Heya Rip,

How you liking the driver ??

Not had a single issue since trying them myself :)

I did notice when i used Ctrl + F11 for a screenie it did hand for a micro sec, Did think on 1st screenie that "hey up the swines gonna lockup on me" lol, but didn't

177.34's I'm trying to get my hands on them again today

Well x64 Goodness :)

Have Fun

Def

Defiance
06-17-08, 09:24 AM
Hiya's,

EDIT: Getting stutters in external view with latest 177.35's, Will remove links for now

I have gone back to 177.26

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

Arclight
06-17-08, 10:48 AM
Holy heck, those "200"s are monsters, didn't even know they were coming. Guess I got a bit lazy keeping up with the news after getting my own monster. :lol:

Fingers crossed for a real soon Nvidia beta release of 177._ for XP :yep:

Defiance
06-17-08, 12:15 PM
Heya,

I'm holding out for the ati reviews when the later cards come out

Going back to ati if prices/performance are to be believed :)

I might be wrong (more than likely) but maybe nvidia won't want to keep updating series 8 cards for much longer, Makes it better as more will start switching to these new cards and later derivatives

I've never had any issues with any game in XP, Only SH 4 1.5 in vista and x64 vista lol

Got a new 24" using older 640 8800gts so need a new card or hopefully crossfire setup :)

Ciao

Def

Arclight
06-17-08, 02:11 PM
Well , it wouldn't surprise me if they dropped support for older cards. I remember M$ dropping the old Xbox like a ton of bricks the second that Xheap360 was released (seems to be the way of doing things for every big company nowadays); laughed my ass off to see the forums light up with complaints and troubles, that's what you get for cutting the "life-cycle" of your old platform short by a year. Sure, you get a head start on the competition, but you don't have time to test the new console properly. IMHO Xbox360 was only up to standard by the time PS3 was released. Ow well, I'm a PS guy anyway, only bought one of those old Boxes when the new one was released. And instead of a new PS, I bought a kickass rig. Thanks to that, I can now enjoy SH4 in all it's splendor, but I'm missing out on GT4, GTA5 and MGS4. Think I'll just wait for more price-cuts, not really worth it at the moment.

Still, I have an "old" new 6200 lying around (old as in old model, new as in new, unmoddable version), which is still supported by latest drivers. Maybe not really updated anymore, but still supported. As long as the issues with a very few select games get resolved under XP (something with how XP handles shaders) like Nvidia promised, I'm happy with my 8800GTS 512.

Hmm... guess they really can't drop it yet, my card uses same core as 9 series. :hmm:

And this rig is less then 6 months old, so they better not. :mad:

Rip
06-17-08, 11:17 PM
Heya Rip,

How you liking the driver ??

Not had a single issue since trying them myself :)

I did notice when i used Ctrl + F11 for a screenie it did hand for a micro sec, Did think on 1st screenie that "hey up the swines gonna lockup on me" lol, but didn't

177.34's I'm trying to get my hands on them again today

Well x64 Goodness :)

Have Fun

Def

Doing great for me but I have been hesitant to say much as I haven't had as much playing time with them as I would like before heaping the praise. I plan to get a few good sessions in this weekend and if I still haven't had a crash I will deem them the best drivers for my 8800 I have had so far.

Defiance
06-18-08, 06:49 AM
Heya Rip,

Yeah i understand time constraints

More 177.** due out so when they surface i'll edit the .inf's and try them

So far the initial 177.26's have no stuttering etc so are the best

On a lighter note, Each time i fire a fish or two, I haven't been gritting/grinding my teeth now just as impact takes place lol

Cannot fault these 177.26's at all :)

So much for a fix for the 8 series cards from nvidia in their 175.** drivers, Seems it's fixed solely for their new expensive card series (hmm they obviously didn't expect modded .inf's lmao)

Roll on more drivers to test :)

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

Rip
06-20-08, 06:25 AM
Well I have played a few more hours and have yet to make these babies crash. I have watch explosions up close, zipped through fire, smoke and oil fires with reckless abandon and changed cameras while in high TC without regard to crash prevention. It will take a good reason to get me to upgrade my drivers again.

Now back to the war.

Defiance
06-20-08, 10:45 AM
Cool Rip,

I too have failed at making these drivers crash :( lol

Got some 177.39's

May add .inf and mod tonight if i get chance

If they're any good i'll upload, Obviously if not i'll can em lol

Glad another vista user seems sorted :)

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

tedhealy
06-20-08, 12:47 PM
These drivers didn't help my vista 64/8800gt combo. My rig crashes at completely random times though, not necessarily in games, sometimes on a blank desktop with nothing open, sometimes with lots of stuff open, or a game. My bluescreen mini dump mentions nvlddmkm.sys so I hoped these would fix it but I still get random lock ups. What really makes me angry is I had zero crashes until the past month or two, now I get near one a day or every other day completely randomly.

Defiance
06-20-08, 06:23 PM
Hiya,

What's the weather been like temp-wise in your area ??

Seems if you got on ok before it maybe heat related (longshot as nvlddmkm.sys cropped up you said)

Try this ...........

Uninstall as i describe (think page 1 etc) and try ............

169.02 -> 169.25 -> and if they still play up try the 175.16

Nvidia are in a state over ATI's new card release (more to come ;) )

Drivers are gonna be flying out from nvidia now lmao

Out of all the Vista and nvidia series 8 cards you're the 1st one that's had/having probs with a GT (to my knowledge that i know of) , My problem stems from my older 8800gts 640 and most others are the 8800GTX

All's i can suggest is rollback a few driver releases and try (making sure you have got shut of drivers properly)

Delete any nvkddmkm.sys files from inside the system32 folder which is in C:\windows\system32 in here delete the blighters if any remain

Sometimes if one etc remain there, They don't/can't/won't get deleted or altered so nvlddmkm.sys probs occur

Tell you what, gone 12:20am here now, If you can can ya take screenies of these folders for me so i can see whats what .............

System32 but just a screanie showning all the Nv area (scroll down til you get to nv obviously)

And also the FileRepository which is in system32 folder, again around the nv area inside the filerepository

May help me try and suggest something

ps: How are you at getting into motherboard bios etc and changing settings ??? may need a few more Vcore volts or ram could do with a notch raising or even the northbridge volts (reading again i think your rig may have become unstable so could not be the drivers, another longshot but ya never know and a notch of juice through things to varify aint gonna blow ya pc up (trust me i'm nuts) lol J/K))

Could have a crack at that side of things is you're ok at going into the bios ?? or if weathers been warmer maybe just heat related, That many options i can throw around so just shooting from the hip

pps: You aint got OCZ brand memory at all have you ????

Ciao

Def

tedhealy
06-20-08, 07:58 PM
I just installed 177.39 drivers and I'll see how that goes. Oh I also lowered the factory overclock on the gpu and gpu ram by about 10mhz each. I thought I had it licked as up until today the comp had run 4 days without a lock up. Locked up while idle while I was away. Hard lock up too, no error was trapped, usally I'll at least get something in the mini dump.

I'm overclocked and the system is rock solid (other than this damn random crash of course) - prime 95 run for 12 hours overnight recently, various other mem tests have been run and I'm fairly confident hardware is not the issue.

Temps are fine idle and under load for both cpu and graphics card, heat is not the issue. Idle is a shade under 30 cel and load hits about 45-50. Volts are all good - have a very good corsair 520 HX PSU.

Looking in my system32/drivers folder, the latest nvlddmkm.sys is there, it's not an old one. I can't seem to delete the 4 or 5 hanging around in other folders though, even after uninstalling nvidia drivers and trying in safe mode.

A list of things I've tried - older/new sound + vid drivers, relax ram timings, up ram volt, kill overclock and go stock, increase cpu volt, turn off intel speedstep/C1E, turn on/off ACPI, up NB volt, reseat the ram, reseat the vid card, check all power connections, remove some fans, add some fans, uninstalled quite a few programs, turned off vid card settings + set to performance over quality...as you can see I've tried numerous things. Just about everytime I get a crash I try something different. I've thought about doing a format and reinstall but I've read too many other people doing this and not fixing the issue so I'd rather not go through that.

Some stretches I'll get 2 or 3 a day and others I can go 2 or 3 days without one.

running

Vista64 Ultimate
ASUS p5k-e with latest 1013 bios - was the first thing I updated when I started getting crashes, had a much older bios and I've gone through 1 or 2 new bios as they come out with same results
Q6600 overclocked to 3.0 ghz (333 fsb), about 1.29v
2 sticks of Mushkin 6400 ram, 2 gig each, running a 5:6 divider to stick right at 400 at 5-4-4-12 and 2N
EVGA 8800 GT factory overclocked to 650/950 - right now I dropped that some to 635/940

Things on my list to try in the near future: one stick of ram, move the ram to different slots, underclock cpu/ram/vid card, see if I can go back to a much older bios. Last but not least I'm running ultimate's dreamscene on my desktop and I have previously turned it off and still got a crash, but I think I'll try turning that off again.

Defiance
06-21-08, 10:05 AM
Heya Ted,

Here's a snippit that might help you to remove those last files etc ...........

1. Turn UAC off. If you like it, then you can keep it running.

2. Uninstall any Nvidia drivers, and delete the remaining files from Program Files (the ones windows lets you delete)

3. Restart the PC into safe mode - (F8 at boot)

4. Find any remaining NVidia driver files (normally start with nv) and delete them.

5. Reboot into normal mode Vista

6. Using Explorer or open My Computer and browse C:\Windows\

7. Right-Click on System32 folder and click ‘search’

8. Enter NV*.sys

9. This will show you all the Nvidia system files in the folder. The ones we are interested in is the ‘nvlddmkm.sys’ and how many copies we have.

10. If you tried multiple install/uninstall you will a few copies of it. I had 19 copies. If you look at the location, they were all in the ‘FileRepository’ folder under different subfolder. Something like nv_as***, nv_io***, etc

11. Note down the name of the sub folders where the file is located, nv_as***

12. So we now know that we have X copies of the nvlddmkm.sys file and what folders they are located in under the FileRep folder. There might be one under the main system32 folder as well. Note it down.

13. Vista has a totally awesome function. ACLs for network geeks…Access-Control Lists or Access-Lists or whatever you want to call them

14. Browse to Accessories from the Start menu (win icon>all programs)

15. Right-Click on command and click ‘Run as Admin’

16. OK so in our Admin CMD window we type the following commands in sequence

17. takeown /f C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\*.*

18. The command above will give you ownership of all the files under the FileRep
folder

19. cacls C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\*.* /G Username:F

20. Replace username with your windows account name or login name

21. Like magic we are done. Oh and if your wondering…u cant do the above via GUI. Windows will give you permission but you would still not be able to delete anything ?

22. Earlier we did the search for the nvlddmkm.sys under the system32 folder. Do that again. In the search results, select all the instances of the nvlddmkm.sys file and delete them. OK, next is a totally optional step but I did it to make 100% sure it was all gone.

23. We noted down all the nv_as**, etc folder which had the nvlddmkm.sys file in it, delete the folders and empty your RecBin

24. Fire up your ForceWare drivers for the install. Disabled your Aero Vista before hand, it does make a difference.

25. Restart, login, set your resolution and enjoy the whole error-free nvlddmkm.sys effect.

Credit goes to another person

Reading through that should help you remove stubburn stuff

What i do myself to get an admin prompt, I goto start anf type in cmd.exe, Then i hold ctrl+shift+enter This i find gives a true admin cmd

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

Defiance
06-21-08, 10:22 AM
PS: My rigs overclocked, And my card (soon to be ATI's in crossfire :) ) i bios flashed with highest mem/core/shaders that i found stable

Don't go thinking the problem is your OC as personally i'm sure it's just the mix of nvidia crap drivers (hmm but now, hey presto as if by magic they have decent drivers) plus vista's UAC (even hidden when you stop UAC) so it comes down to getting unremovable odds n sods removed, Then at least a later/leaked driver has a chance of fixing things

Nvidia imho have been milking us consumers because up until now ati had flagged somewhat, But now prices should come down as we have a decent choice once more

Nvidia ...........
A: With poor drivers that may not address or even try to fix problems !
B: Then having to upgrade a card/s to get a fix or hope it did !

Fact is all drivers i tried and i swear i tried everything i could lay my hands on for vista x64 never worked as they should and didn't attempt to fix the series 8 nvlddmkm.sys problems, BUT along comes a leaked 177 driver and bobs your uncle all is fixed

Fix was in the Driver all along so was Not a hardware issue at all

Heard so many older GTS/GTX owners buying next models up etc to sort a fix and yet nvidia could of fixed things but how would they of sold the next cards ;)

Just think how many people have spent money on other cards to cure this and other problems !! Think nvidia are worried that people have had to buy 2 or 3 cards to get a fix ?? Heck No they're laughing all the way to the bank

Rant Over lol

Ciao

Def

tedhealy
06-21-08, 02:41 PM
Thank you very much for the info, bookmarked.

Currently the rig has been stable for almost 24 hours now after underclocking the gpu and going to the 177.39 drivers. I'll see how it goes as I've been here before thinking maybe it's finally been cured. If I get another lock up I'll give your instructions a try, many thanks again :up:

snakeyez
06-21-08, 09:06 PM
THANK YOU!

For the first time since v1.5 came out, I've been able to play SH4 with no problems whatsoever for over 2 hours.

That's with the 32 bit Vista 177.26 drivers running my BFG NVIDIA 8800 GTS video card.

Yaaay!

Defiance
06-22-08, 07:48 AM
snakeyez,

Glad you're up n running :yep:

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

Doolittle81
06-22-08, 04:40 PM
Well I have played a few more hours and have yet to make these babies crash. I have watch explosions up close, zipped through fire, smoke and oil fires with reckless abandon and changed cameras while in high TC without regard to crash prevention. It will take a good reason to get me to upgrade my drivers again.

Now back to the war.

Too many numbers being bandied about. Could you tell me precisely which 177.XX drivers you are using so successfully? Thanks.

Rip
06-22-08, 06:19 PM
Well I have played a few more hours and have yet to make these babies crash. I have watch explosions up close, zipped through fire, smoke and oil fires with reckless abandon and changed cameras while in high TC without regard to crash prevention. It will take a good reason to get me to upgrade my drivers again.

Now back to the war.
Too many numbers being bandied about. Could you tell me precisely which 177.XX drivers you are using so successfully? Thanks.

I am running the 177.26 drivers linked at the beginning of the thread. Without any crashes I haven't had motivation to try any newer ones. BTW I still have yet to CTD or bluescreen since installing them.

Defiance
06-22-08, 08:14 PM
As Rip said

The actual driver is for the nvidia latest card/s gtx 260/280 177.26

These work with a modded .INF i included (this allows driver to work on non new gtx cards ;) )

I'm rock solid still still, Lovely torp explosions (when i get a victim to torp that is lol)


ps: Tried other later drivers and still finding the 177.26's best

Ciao

Def

snakeyez
06-22-08, 08:18 PM
Too many numbers being bandied about. Could you tell me precisely which 177.XX drivers you are using so successfully? Thanks.
DOOLITTLE81! You've gotta try these 177.26 drivers listed in the original post in this thread. You can finally turn on all the goodies (post processing, etc) and not get those darn crashes when torpedoes explode.

Now if I can just make myself not mess with my drivers again anytime soon...

schurem
06-23-08, 07:55 PM
Holy frackin saviour on a horse made out of metal! this stuff works! w00t! i'm back in the game. my gf is SO not happy with you guys :lol:

Defiance
06-23-08, 08:40 PM
Lmao,

Well glad you're back up n running :yep:

Sorry your GF aint too happy :rotfl:

Could always try to convert her by showing her some nice sunsets/rises :hmm:

Do what i do, Let her click mouse to fire a torp or two, My ones face lights up when a torp explodes lol

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

Rip
06-23-08, 10:11 PM
Holy frackin saviour on a horse made out of metal! this stuff works! w00t! i'm back in the game. my gf is SO not happy with you guys :lol:

By her a ticket and send her my way. I'll cheer her up.

:-j

tedhealy
06-23-08, 10:40 PM
Heya Ted,

Here's a snippit that might help you to remove those last files etc ...........

1. Turn UAC off. If you like it, then you can keep it running.

2. Uninstall any Nvidia drivers, and delete the remaining files from Program Files (the ones windows lets you delete)

3. Restart the PC into safe mode - (F8 at boot)

4. Find any remaining NVidia driver files (normally start with nv) and delete them.

5. Reboot into normal mode Vista

6. Using Explorer or open My Computer and browse C:\Windows\

7. Right-Click on System32 folder and click ‘search’

8. Enter NV*.sys

9. This will show you all the Nvidia system files in the folder. The ones we are interested in is the ‘nvlddmkm.sys’ and how many copies we have.

10. If you tried multiple install/uninstall you will a few copies of it. I had 19 copies. If you look at the location, they were all in the ‘FileRepository’ folder under different subfolder. Something like nv_as***, nv_io***, etc

11. Note down the name of the sub folders where the file is located, nv_as***

12. So we now know that we have X copies of the nvlddmkm.sys file and what folders they are located in under the FileRep folder. There might be one under the main system32 folder as well. Note it down.

13. Vista has a totally awesome function. ACLs for network geeks…Access-Control Lists or Access-Lists or whatever you want to call them

14. Browse to Accessories from the Start menu (win icon>all programs)

15. Right-Click on command and click ‘Run as Admin’

16. OK so in our Admin CMD window we type the following commands in sequence

17. takeown /f C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\*.*

18. The command above will give you ownership of all the files under the FileRep
folder

19. cacls C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\*.* /G Username:F

20. Replace username with your windows account name or login name

21. Like magic we are done. Oh and if your wondering…u cant do the above via GUI. Windows will give you permission but you would still not be able to delete anything ?

22. Earlier we did the search for the nvlddmkm.sys under the system32 folder. Do that again. In the search results, select all the instances of the nvlddmkm.sys file and delete them. OK, next is a totally optional step but I did it to make 100% sure it was all gone.

23. We noted down all the nv_as**, etc folder which had the nvlddmkm.sys file in it, delete the folders and empty your RecBin

24. Fire up your ForceWare drivers for the install. Disabled your Aero Vista before hand, it does make a difference.

25. Restart, login, set your resolution and enjoy the whole error-free nvlddmkm.sys effect.

Credit goes to another person

Reading through that should help you remove stubburn stuff

What i do myself to get an admin prompt, I goto start anf type in cmd.exe, Then i hold ctrl+shift+enter This i find gives a true admin cmd

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

I had another lockup :down: so I followed the instructions you posted and used the 175.19s that came out today. We'll see how long these last.

Defiance
06-24-08, 09:01 AM
Ahh sorry to hear this Ted,

So far unluckily you're the only one that's reported a lockup :(

I see others trying the 177.39's are getting fps hits, But may help you i really dunno

From what i can gather myself with older GTS and others with GTX's these seem as stable as i could of ever hoped for (no crashes yet i mean)

You say you running a GT, If no luck with the 175.19's, If you can post back with all the 177.** driver versions you've tried, I'll try and see if i can knock up another that you haven't tried

Cheers

Ciao

Def

tedhealy
06-25-08, 10:59 AM
What drivers haven't I tried is more like it.

Still going ok with 175.19 [crossing fingers], but I've tried 175.16, 177.39, 175.12, 174.74, plus another few. If it's been on the nvidia site, I've tried it. I also tried one or two versions I only found on guru3d or in the nividia forums.

That gets me to thinking, the one thing I didn't try was going back to 16x.xx drivers. If I get another crash, I may give that a go.

That previous crash that moved me to install the 175.19s produced a mini-dump that faulted nvlddmkm.sys, so I'm still banging my head against the same problem it would seem.

Defiance
06-25-08, 01:47 PM
Heya,

Yeah i know the feeling of banging head lol

Feel for you i really do, So far it seems you're the only one that's come forward having problems with a GT most others seem to be GTX mainly

Now ati are back as such with the new cards the nvidia drivers should be flying out at a faster rate (imho they have held back drivers for economic reasons lol but that's just my 2c)

Having no GT to test i'm at a loss as to what else to try, Just keep on searching for remaining files though especially the nvlddmkm.sys's

.................................................. .................................................. .......

Well i'm about to go crossfire with 2 ati 4870's with a new x48 mobo

Been fighting the urge to buy but gonna order now i thinks

If i come across anything specific regarding the GT obviously i'll post back, This current card's going in a spare rig i got so can still maybe try and test drivers etc for the 8 series

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you :)

Edit: The fix i got to work just as leaked drivers came out was using a 158 series drivers, What i found was these 158 drivers had their own complete uninstaller, whereas later drivers didn't, That's what 1st put on the path to a fix, Can't recall the exact driver offhand, And like yourself i tried about every driver i could find lol (sure it was 158.**)

Ciao

Def

tedhealy
06-25-08, 05:45 PM
Thanks for the help again. One of the things I neglected searching for before was an update to my vid card bios, just didn't even think of it. EVGA actually had a bios update from Jan. 2008. The release notes mentioned improving the fan speed auto sensor and improving compatibility with pcie gen 1 mobos. My p5k-e mobo is pcie 1.1, but who knows, maybe the new bios will help.

If I crash again, I'll try some older drivers and I think I"ll try figuring out how to rollback to an earlier mobo bios too.

edit...actually my pcie may actually not be 1.1, I need to get a flashlight and look at the board because my manual doesn't specify and I've seen some posts that say p5k-e isn't pcie1.1...although I thought if I had a pcie16 slot it was 1.1 or later. Dear almighty I hope the bios is the fix.

Defiance
06-26-08, 12:10 AM
Ted,

For what it's worth my abit ip35 pro is pcie 1.0a apparently @ 16x

Now i just read this on a forum.........

"PCI-E 1.1 is the standard that most people have. All PCI-E 2.0 graphics cards will work in any PCI-E 1.1 slot AFAIK.

PCI-E 1.0a is older, and there are compatibility problems with some cards and motherboards. Apparently, most of these problems occur on VIA boards though"

Maybe a pcie 1.0a and series 8 card compat problem ??

EDIT: Dang just had a brain fart, Ok hear me out........................

If you find your pcie is 1.0a , What about this for a scenario............It explains why i got 158.** drivers to work with no crash etc on explosions etc etc because these were purely for pcie 1.0a cards
Whereas later drivers were made more for 1.1 -> 2.0 slots so something was ommitted, And with the release of the GTX 200 cards nvidia either fixed the problem realising they may be able to get older mobo's working and of course users spending on cards alone without having to upgrade mobo (making it easier for joe public to upgrade a card on its own rather than a card+mobo)) or somewhere in the 177 new drivers they implanted "the fix" (hmm then again some 177's do crash but for me it's ones after 177.26)

Dear lord i hope this makes sense

Ciao

Def

tedhealy
06-28-08, 05:07 PM
The p5k-e is pcie 1.1, but it crashed two times already today so I'll give various older driver sets a go I guess.

At some point the 8800GT is going to go flying out the window and get replaced by a ati 4850 or 4870.

Defiance
06-28-08, 06:32 PM
I feel ya pain Ted,

Got me a 4870 delivery monday, Then another in the week hopefully with a nice new x48 mobo and some more watercooling goodies

Back on topic ( i'm getting ati-excited lol)

Not had a crash with mine so far though still using 177.26's

Just something to do with a GT but i can't find anything about the GT having problems :(
Will keep looking at forums i visit though ;)

I tell you what, I'm glad ati have kind of caught nvidia off-guard with these cards, These new ati cards absolutely rock :)

And wait til the 4870x2 comes out woohoo what a beast that's gonna be for the smaller cost compared to what nvidia wheel barrow out lol

Ahh well time for sleep (had a few cognacs and i need rest :) )

Ted i have seen the 4850's clock like monkeys on steroids going up trees, Seems the 4870 chips are deffo not cherry picked, Guy on a local forum has sorted the volt mod either pencil or solder and his is rocking like they been injected with adrenalin lol

Ciao

Def

Tronics
06-29-08, 11:36 PM
I couldn't get the 32bit Vista drivers to install, they give an error halfway through the installation in safe mode and the installer aborts, any ways around this?


I REALLY REALLY REALLY would like to know how to get rid of this damn nvlddmkm.sys problem though I've tried almost every driver release since I first purchased my 8800 last november and this problem keeps poping up fairly frequently, I installed the new
175.19 drivers and they worked fairly decent for about a day, then I get slammed with three nvlddmkm.sys errors in a row on COD4, WiC and SH4.

Well regardless this is the last time I buy an Nvidia card for a long while. I hope that class action suit starts up and sues the pants off of Nvidia. So we can all buy ATI cards with the settlement money!

Defiance
06-30-08, 03:27 AM
Hiya,

Only running a lone Vista x64 install now

Gimme a few i'll post back after i recheck the 32 bit inf

EDIT, You should end up having to install the driver in "normal" mode

Boot into safe, Do the biz removing the drivers

Reboot and it will come into normal mode and "should" not ask/start vistas own vga driver install, If it does just cancel it

Now in normal mode this is when the drivers should go in

DL Link for Vista x86 (32bit) .............. http://files.filefront.com/177+26+Vista+X86rar/;10862214;/fileinfo.html

If that doesn't work unless someone running vista x86 jumps into give advice i'm at a loss as to what to try

Let me know if it works, If not i'll remove links :(

snakeyez
06-30-08, 08:24 AM
Tronics, I'm a Vista 32 bit user and I have an 8800 GTS card.

Do just like the instructions say...uninstall video card drivers, reboot into safe mode, clean the video card drivers off, reboot into normal mode, and install those awesome 32 bit 177.26 drivers.

http://files.filefront.com/177+26+Vista+X86rar/;10862214;/fileinfo.html

Try, try again. It's worth it.

Defiance
06-30-08, 10:40 AM
Hiya snakeyez,

You still going strong driver-wise ??

If so, Cool :)

Just testing my 1st Sapphire 4870 card

It's stonkingly good :D

Well hope ya still going without lockups ;)

Doolittle81
06-30-08, 11:38 AM
Tronics, I'm a Vista 32 bit user and I have an 8800 GTS card.

Do just like the instructions say...uninstall video card drivers, reboot into safe mode, clean the video card drivers off, reboot into normal mode, and install those awesome 32 bit 177.26 drivers.

http://files.filefront.com/177+26+Vista+X86rar/;10862214;/fileinfo.html

Try, try again. It's worth it.

I remain a bit confused. I've read varying accounts of the 177.26 drivers. The Drivers to which you have provided a download link make no mention of a Modified "nv_disp.inf" file. Other download sites, such as the NVision site, explain and specifically provide a modified INF file to be substituted into the Driver's Folder, which apparently makes the Drivers work with the 8000 series cards (and others).
Explanation: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9243
Drivers and Mod INF download page: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19001

The 177.26 drivers above are stated as being "ASUS-released" drivers and make no comments about the drivers being "Beta" etc.


This seems in synch with Defiance's instructions, but again Defiance makes reference to INF files which he wrote.... Is the Defiance INF file different from the one provided at the Nvision site?

Defiance
06-30-08, 12:38 PM
No i didn't write the .inf's

I just saved some from getting confused and merely added the correct modded .inf into the drivers

T'was to stop people coming back with problems when perhaps they had added the wrong .inf

Edit: Thus making me try to track down non existant problems if you get my drift

Hope this makes sense

snakeyez
06-30-08, 01:36 PM
RE: Doolittle81 - Defiance has modded the .inf file already and the download links are the end result, all ready to go.

RE: Defiance - Yes, still going strong with these drivers, still 0 problems with anything!

Defiance
06-30-08, 01:42 PM
Glad to hear it snakeyez, :)

Well i've moved over to the Red-Side fully now (ATI)

When i get new motherboard and other card or cards, I'll build a rig with my now spare gts 640 so if any better drivers come out i can post back

I see nvidia's dropped their gtx 200 cards but here they're still damn expensive

Tronics
06-30-08, 02:42 PM
Now the installer dosen't seem to do anything it just runs, and apparently aborts halfway through:

http://savant989.googlepages.com/notbeenmodified.jpg

It's not even creating a new NVIDIA folder anywhere and throwing files into it.

Any ideas?

Defiance
06-30-08, 03:43 PM
Hiya,

UAC is it on or off ??

If uac is on, All's i can think (again not having vista x86 installed now) is remove drivers from programmes and features and allow uac etc etc

When that's done (driver sweeper has to already be installed) reboot, As it starts up from reboot, Keep hitting F8 key until options show

Choose Safe

When in to windows whatever popup/s come on cancel/ignore/no accept etc

Then run driver sweeper twice, (Choosing just nvidia display option only)

Reboot and it will then come into normal mode, If it does offer to install a driver cancel it

Install either but (Try this one 1st, Tried by 20 others with no problems installing) http://files.filefront.com/WinVista3217726rar/;10612721;/fileinfo.html

Or this one (should be exact as above) ........
http://files.filefront.com/177+26+Vista+X86rar/;10862214;/fileinfo.html

Will try and get back to check later to see if it's installed ok

ps: Out of the tens upon tens of install/driver variants i tried, I think i had several occasions when your problem happened, If i rem right the remnants of drivers weren't fully removed and i may of tried to remove drivers in normal mode :(

Tronics
06-30-08, 05:10 PM
UAC is off.

Heres what I'm about to do step by step:

Currently im in normal mode with no video drivers installed of any sort.

1. Boot into safe mode

2. Check installed programs list and C:\ for any trace of Nvidia remnants.

3. run drivesweeper for Nvidia Display twice.

4. Reboot into normal configuration

5. Run the setup.exe located within the winvista32(177.26) driver folder on my Desktop.

6. Hopefully it will complete the install and then I reboot into normal mode and everything works.


Now im off to see if it will work as planned....I'll post a follow up shortly, thanks for all your help.

Defiance
06-30-08, 06:35 PM
Hiya,

Sounds like a plan :)

If that don't work i dunno

Will stay up a bit longer and see how you make out

Edit: Any good ???

tedhealy
07-01-08, 01:54 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/yurkb/test/pork-on-the-wing.jpg

I may be jinxing things here, but I'm going on 4 days now without a lockup. The cure? Rolling back my mobo bios to a Jan 2008 version. There are 2 newer bios I had used and I can't really remember the crashing starting after installing those versions, otherwise I would have looked into rolling them back a long time ago. I swear I had used those for at least a month before I began noticing crashes.

I'm not out of the crashing woods yet as I've gone 4 days between crashes a few times since this started, but I'm optimistic :()1: If I can go another 3 or 4 days I'll be able to say problem cured I think.

Kind of odd that my crash dumps would blame nvlddmkdm.sys.

Hopefully my next post won't be holding back curse words from another lockup when I thought it was cured :rotfl:

Doolittle81
07-01-08, 02:06 PM
I have now installed the 177.26 drivers. I ran SH4 1.5 with PE3 enabled, using my standard Test Mission (the NSM demo with stationary ships as targets....this allows four controlled nearly simultaneous explosions). Previously, it had been 100% crashes with the first explosion or DD deck Gun firing at me. Running SH4 1.5 with W_Clear's EE Mod, as I have reported elsewhere in several threads/forums, I previously had 90% success with some drivers but only with Post Processing and/or Envrionmental Effects turned off in In-Game options.

My 177.26 results, with all In-Game options enabled/maxed: I have not had the CTDs/BSODs which have plagued me for months with all other drivers when trying to run 1.5 with Pacific Environment Mod. I've not run a "full" mission yet, or a campaign/career patrol...but so far, it looks like these 177.26 Drivers are the solution!!!!! Keeping fingers crossed for the time being, though.

I have another custom Test mission which has 6+ DD's charging/attacking my sub, with extensive Deck guns firing, plus I get to make some simultaneous Torp hits/explosions. If I get the CTD's/BSODs I'll report back here. Otherwise, Silence from me means continuing success with 177.26 drivers.



FYI...My Rig:
ASUS P5N32-E SLI
Dual core E6700 Cpu
2GB OCZ PC2 8800 (1100Mhz) RAM
BFG 8800GTX w/768MB Graphics card
Audigy2 ZS
4 Seagate 400GB hard drives in a 0+1 RAID array
Plextor PX-800A
Samsung SyncMaster 244T 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1200 native resolution
Windows VISTA 32bit

Defiance
07-01-08, 03:46 PM
Glad it seems both of you are fairing well :)

Hope no lockup's etc occur for you two

I must say, Going back to ATI i really do notice how vibrant and crisp things seem now in game

eg: The ocean looks more darker and richer, Searchlights are blinding not that weren't before but again seem richer and cleaner

Well hope Tronics has finally sorted his driver install, He's not posted back

On about bios flashes Ted, I have had that many mobo's since 1995 i've lost count, But on at least 2 occasions i had to roll back to stop weird things happening

Good addidge, Especially where mobo bios and GPU drivers are concerned, Unless you're having problems leave well alone, With drivers of course try them and if required rollback etc

Well hope you continue enjoying a problem-free SH4 1.5 :)

snakeyez
07-16-08, 08:48 PM
Doolittle, I am posting to see if you are still having success with those modded 177.26 drivers. I am still having 100% success with them, not a single CTD yet with hours of play.

Have you done any tweaking, like more anti-aliasing or such?

Doolittle81
07-16-08, 11:06 PM
Doolittle, I am posting to see if you are still having success with those modded 177.26 drivers. I am still having 100% success with them, not a single CTD yet with hours of play.

Have you done any tweaking, like more anti-aliasing or such?

No CTD's....No tweaking adjustments...Everything seems to be going perfectly..

However, I only get in maybe two hours of SH4 sailing every 3rd or 4th day, so that may or not be adequate testing to be absolutely positive.

My opinion is that the 177.26 drivers fixed everything. I had NO success with any of the earlier drivers over the course of several months.

I'm satisfied/happy.

Defiance
07-19-08, 07:27 PM
Glad to hear things seem stable (no crashes etc)

I've moved over to the dark side, Err i mean the red side (ATI)

Couldn't be happier with the 4870

Takes everything i throw at it (except for some reason when on external view and i look at sub or anything upwards where the sun is shining i get stutters)

Then again no "proper" driver out for the 48 series yet but end of the month ati release their drivers

Hope all continues to go well for ya's ;)

tedhealy
07-26-08, 02:20 PM
My problem did eventually come back after about 7 or 8 days (random lock ups that happen while idle or doing anything with nvlddmkm mentioned in the minidump and the video card + drivers mentioned in vista's problems and solutions). Rolling back the bios did not fix it.

Even though I've run numerous ram tests, I think I'll try alternating/removing a stick (2- 2 GB sticks) if I get crashes with the latest nvidia 177.66 beta drivers from guru3d. If that doesn't work, I suppose I'll live with it until I get an ati card.

Aniuk
09-07-08, 04:12 PM
Thanks for making these drivers easily available. Followed your instructions and loaded 177.26 drivers for my Nvidia 8800 gts 640 mb. Thanks to your clear instructions it was done in about 5 minutes. Overclocked GPU with RIVA tuner: 600mhz/1400mhz/950 mhz. Fan at 100%, temp below 70 degrees celsius. Mobo ASUS P5N32-E SLI. mem 4GB. Great fps: > 80 at the moment of explosions from my torps, Running TMO/RSRD/some smaller mods.

And the occasional crashes are gone! Running smoothly for several hours now and downed 4 ships without any stuttering whatsoever of the display. (normally had a crash or two when I play for several hours and after a few torp hits),

Hope it stays this way, because there is nothing better for a rainy sunday afternoon then SH IV

Thanks :up: