Is it just me....

[AVGWarhawk]

As of late, I have been seeing news articles were Obama is blasting McCain for the economy and other issues. These are worded is if McCain is at fault for all these things...personally. It it just me or has only else seen this?

Here is an example:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hUdUtB8Ky-TPpQHnKOWNhXoFPRcwD917VVC04


The first paragraph says it all. What the hell has Obama been doing about it? He is in the Senate, yes?

[August]

As of late, I have been seeing news articles were Obama is blasting McCain for the economy and other issues. These are worded is if McCain is at fault for all these things...personally. It it just me or has only else seen this?

Here is an example:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hUdUtB8Ky-TPpQHnKOWNhXoFPRcwD917VVC04


The first paragraph says it all. What the hell has Obama been doing about it? He is in the Senate, yes?

People, mostly Democrats, like to point at GB's approval rating but they rarely mention that Congresses ratings are even more abysmal.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Right or wrong, it is going to be VERY easy for Obama to demonize the Republicans for any evils that happened during the Bush admin.

PD

[AVGWarhawk]

August,

I'm seeing more and more of this just this week. The articles are worded in such a way that portrays McCain as at fault for everything that is going on, as an extention of Bush(which is all they are attempting to do). The news media has gotten so bad it is pathedic. Once they are done with that twist, they start harping on his age. The media is driving Obama to the White House. It is sad that power to influence people is used in this pretext. The media has been driving the Obama deal since day one.

[AVGWarhawk]

Right or wrong, it is going to be VERY easy for Obama to demonize the Republicans for any evils that happened during the Bush admin.

PD

It is not about right or wrong....Capital hill is loaded with Republicans and Democrates, including both Obama and McCain who are at fault here. All of them should be pointed at themselves. The articles pointedly pin todays issues on McCain soley. That is not fair play and a crock of crap.

See above post of mine.

[SUBMAN1]

I found the person behind it all too!!!!:

-S




http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4329/hillaryobamaod5.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Good Lord, I lost me lunch! :o

[PeriscopeDepth]

Right or wrong, it is going to be VERY easy for Obama to demonize the Republicans for any evils that happened during the Bush admin.

PD
It is not about right or wrong....Capital hill is loaded with Republicans and Democrates, including both Obama and McCain who are at fault here. All of them should be pointed at themselves. The articles pointedly pin todays issues on McCain soley. That is not fair play and a crock of crap.

See above post of mine.
That's why I said "right or wrong". As in that doesn't matter, it's going to happen anyways. Just like in any other presidential election; but with Iraq and the economy (and again, I am NOT saying this is exclusively the Republicans' fault. Both parties played a part in getting us where we are, just the Republican's happened to have the Presidency at the time.) going the way they are, it is in Obama's interest and easy for him to pin them on the Repubs/McCain. Which is why, IMO, McCain has to fight a VERY uphill battle.

I know it's not fair play. But when was the last time a presidential election campaign was done"fairly".

PD

[SUBMAN1]

Good Lord, I lost me lunch! :oMission Accomplished Sir! :p :cool:

-S

[Platapus]

I think it is called campaigning. Both sides will be bringing up the weaknesses of the other candidate. Like any advertisement there will be embellishment and selective historical reporting.

Do you think Obama can win if he goes around saying that McCain is really a pretty good fiscal moderate.

Or McCain winning saying that Obama is bringing new ideas that just might work.


Of course not. That is not how our system of adversarial political parties works.

Obama has to treat McCain like the incumbent (old ideas, continuing bad policy) otherwise he can't get his message of change across. It really does not matter whether McCain supported or did not support the policies of the past administration, Obama will say that he does.

McCain has to treat Obama as radical with untried and risky policy. It does not matter whether Obama is or is not a radical or whether his policies are risky or not, McCain will say that he does.

We call this crap: politics

And we really should not pay all that much attention to it. We have two lying piece of crap politicians willing to say anything to get elected - That's the American way.

It is a fight between two personalities and it will get personal.

In the end, people will vote for whom ever they feel will be better for the job. By this time, I doubt that too many citizens are truly undecided (maybe 5%?)

So let the salesmen say their piece, it is what they get paid for. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Nice responses all but:


CHICAGO (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) charged on Wednesday that U.S. credit card companies are tricking Americans with deceptive practices and that Republican John McCain (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/johnmccain) has done nothing to stop it.


OK, just what the hell has Obama done about? All of a sudden he wakes up and decides to look at the real issues after what, two years in the Senate. Come on, is this guy really ready for anything?

[SUBMAN1]

Nice responses all but:


CHICAGO (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) charged on Wednesday that U.S. credit card companies are tricking Americans with deceptive practices and that Republican John McCain (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/johnmccain) has done nothing to stop it.

OK, just what the hell has Obama done about? All of a sudden he wakes up and decides to look at the real issues after what, two years in the Senate. Come on, is this guy really ready for anything?That works both ways. A. It tells me that John McCain may have done nothing about it, but is he even on those committees?
B. It also tells me that Obama doesn't have any experience in leadership in the Senate, let alone as president, since he hasn't been in DC long enough to do anything either.

-S

[PeriscopeDepth]

I think it's quite possible an Obama presidency would turn out like JFK's. Full of hope and all that, a few notable foreign policy accomplishments. But not being able to move a damn thing through the House/Senate.

PD

[AVGWarhawk]

Nice responses all but:


CHICAGO (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) charged on Wednesday that U.S. credit card companies are tricking Americans with deceptive practices and that Republican John McCain (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/johnmccain) has done nothing to stop it.

OK, just what the hell has Obama done about? All of a sudden he wakes up and decides to look at the real issues after what, two years in the Senate. Come on, is this guy really ready for anything?That works both ways. A. It tells me that John McCain may have done nothing about it, but is he even on those committees?
B. It also tells me that Obama doesn't have any experience in leadership in the Senate, let alone as president, since he hasn't been in DC long enough to do anything either.

-S

The last line of yours is very telling, not of you, but general concensus, "long enough to do anything either" What does the general public believe he will do or can do? I do not understand this phenominon at all. I find it very odd.

[AVGWarhawk]

I think it's quite possible an Obama presidency would turn out like JFK's. Full of hope and all that, a few notable foreign policy accomplishments. But not being able to move a damn thing through the House/Senate.

PD

JFK's term was cut short, no telling where he could have gone or not gone. Shame really not to know what could have become of his presidency if full term was given.

[Tchocky]

Looking at GOP party affiliation and the general trend of voters, I don't see either the House or Senate returning to a significant Republican majority anytime soon.
So if Obama gets the presidency, he'll have a willing legislative branch. For a while, at least.

[Monica Lewinsky]

I found the person behind it all too!!!!:


Dear Mr Subman1,

After reviewing you recent post with that picture of our next President, I am filing a claim AGAINST YOU for REIMBURSEMENT for a new pair of undies. I laughed so hard, that they got soiled and request you send me a new pair via Ebay or PayPal.

Since you shelled out the money for SH4, I assume you can afford to pay me for one pair of new undies.

Also, I have filed compliants to the moderators and they too agree with me that some form of action or reimbursement is in order.

Note to Self:
Follow up on this with a Nasty PM to Subman1
;)

[Sailor Steve]

But when was the last time a presidential election campaign was done"fairly".
I think I can safely point to 1792. Washington vs. nobody.

[August]

I think I can safely point to 1792. Washington vs. nobody.

This ^ :yep:

[PeriscopeDepth]

Looking at GOP party affiliation and the general trend of voters, I don't see either the House or Senate returning to a significant Republican majority anytime soon.
So if Obama gets the presidency, he'll have a willing legislative branch. For a while, at least.
To an extent. It is easy to slam things through the House based on simple majority. The same cannot be said of the Senate.

PD

[PeriscopeDepth]

But when was the last time a presidential election campaign was done"fairly". I think I can safely point to 1792. Washington vs. nobody. Excellent answer Steve. :cool:

PD

[PeriscopeDepth]

Nice responses all but:


CHICAGO (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) charged on Wednesday that U.S. credit card companies are tricking Americans with deceptive practices and that Republican John McCain (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/johnmccain) has done nothing to stop it.

OK, just what the hell has Obama done about? All of a sudden he wakes up and decides to look at the real issues after what, two years in the Senate. Come on, is this guy really ready for anything?That works both ways. A. It tells me that John McCain may have done nothing about it, but is he even on those committees?
B. It also tells me that Obama doesn't have any experience in leadership in the Senate, let alone as president, since he hasn't been in DC long enough to do anything either.

-S
The last line of yours is very telling, not of you, but general concensus, "long enough to do anything either" What does the general public believe he will do or can do? I do not understand this phenominon at all. I find it very odd.
That he will do something different than what is currently being done. I think that is what a lot of people want.

PD

[Iceman]

Nice responses all but:


CHICAGO (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) charged on Wednesday that U.S. credit card companies are tricking Americans with deceptive practices and that Republican John McCain (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/johnmccain) has done nothing to stop it.

OK, just what the hell has Obama done about? All of a sudden he wakes up and decides to look at the real issues after what, two years in the Senate. Come on, is this guy really ready for anything?That works both ways. A. It tells me that John McCain may have done nothing about it, but is he even on those committees?
B. It also tells me that Obama doesn't have any experience in leadership in the Senate, let alone as president, since he hasn't been in DC long enough to do anything either.

-S

The last line of yours is very telling, not of you, but general concensus, "long enough to do anything either" What does the general public believe he will do or can do? I do not understand this phenominon at all. I find it very odd.

I recently heard it put like this in regards to Obama...

http://www.relentlessevilsnowflake.com/blog/whereb.jpg

Couldn't have put it any better....I think it is going to get old pretty soon to the tactic of trying to lump McCain as some clone of Bush...I think this will backfire on him soon when they begin to debate.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Voters'll probably go for the more qualified candidate who is also a bore. That worked great for Gore. And I hear conditions are ideal for a Republican candidate to win.

Like I said, uphill battle for Senator McCain.

PD

[nikimcbee]

Good Lord, I lost me lunch! :oMission Accomplished Sir! :p :cool:

-S

AHH, from the personal collection I see.:rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

Nice responses all but:


CHICAGO (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) charged on Wednesday that U.S. credit card companies are tricking Americans with deceptive practices and that Republican John McCain (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/johnmccain) has done nothing to stop it.

OK, just what the hell has Obama done about? All of a sudden he wakes up and decides to look at the real issues after what, two years in the Senate. Come on, is this guy really ready for anything?That works both ways. A. It tells me that John McCain may have done nothing about it, but is he even on those committees?
B. It also tells me that Obama doesn't have any experience in leadership in the Senate, let alone as president, since he hasn't been in DC long enough to do anything either.

-S
The last line of yours is very telling, not of you, but general concensus, "long enough to do anything either" What does the general public believe he will do or can do? I do not understand this phenominon at all. I find it very odd.
That he will do something different than what is currently being done. I think that is what a lot of people want.

PD


The problem here PD is the good ole boy network in Washington is alive and well. I do not believe Obama is part of that network. It will take 4 years to change that if it can be changed at all.

[AVGWarhawk]

Couldn't have put it any better....I think it is going to get old pretty soon to the tactic of trying to lump McCain as some clone of Bush...I think this will backfire on him soon when they begin to debate.

Yes, the debates will determine if McCain is a Bush and old/delusional. Watch the elderly take offense to the old part and vote for McCain.

[McBeck]

I think it's quite possible an Obama presidency would turn out like JFK's. Full of hope and all that, a few notable foreign policy accomplishments. But not being able to move a damn thing through the House/Senate.

PD
JFK's term was cut short, no telling where he could have gone or not gone. Shame really not to know what could have become of his presidency if full term was given.
What about the cuban misile crisis?

[AVGWarhawk]

I think it's quite possible an Obama presidency would turn out like JFK's. Full of hope and all that, a few notable foreign policy accomplishments. But not being able to move a damn thing through the House/Senate.

PD
JFK's term was cut short, no telling where he could have gone or not gone. Shame really not to know what could have become of his presidency if full term was given. What about the cuban misile crisis?

What about the Cuban Missile Crisis? JFK was ready to do what needed to be done. He showed his guts and the crisis was averted. Probably the toughest decisions he made as President.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Nice responses all but:


CHICAGO (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) charged on Wednesday that U.S. credit card companies are tricking Americans with deceptive practices and that Republican John McCain (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/johnmccain) has done nothing to stop it.

OK, just what the hell has Obama done about? All of a sudden he wakes up and decides to look at the real issues after what, two years in the Senate. Come on, is this guy really ready for anything?That works both ways. A. It tells me that John McCain may have done nothing about it, but is he even on those committees?
B. It also tells me that Obama doesn't have any experience in leadership in the Senate, let alone as president, since he hasn't been in DC long enough to do anything either.

-S
The last line of yours is very telling, not of you, but general concensus, "long enough to do anything either" What does the general public believe he will do or can do? I do not understand this phenominon at all. I find it very odd. That he will do something different than what is currently being done. I think that is what a lot of people want.

PD

The problem here PD is the good ole boy network in Washington is alive and well. I do not believe Obama is part of that network. It will take 4 years to change that if it can be changed at all.

Like I said not many posts ago. He may not be able to get a damn thing done.

PD

[PeriscopeDepth]

I think it's quite possible an Obama presidency would turn out like JFK's. Full of hope and all that, a few notable foreign policy accomplishments. But not being able to move a damn thing through the House/Senate.

PD
JFK's term was cut short, no telling where he could have gone or not gone. Shame really not to know what could have become of his presidency if full term was given. What about the cuban misile crisis?
What about the Cuban Missile Crisis? JFK was ready to do what needed to be done. He showed his guts and the crisis was averted. Probably the toughest decisions he made as President.
What? I never said he didn't have guts. His handling of the Missile Crisis was nothing short of great. I said he couldn't move what he wanted to through the legislature. I do believe that the Cuban Missile Crisis would be a "foreign policy accomplishment". Again, as I've already said.

PD

[SUBMAN1]

Dear Mr Subman1,

After reviewing you recent post with that picture of our next President, I am filing a claim AGAINST YOU for REIMBURSEMENT for a new pair of undies. I laughed so hard, that they got soiled and request you send me a new pair via Ebay or PayPal.

Since you shelled out the money for SH4, I assume you can afford to pay me for one pair of new undies.

Also, I have filed compliants to the moderators and they too agree with me that some form of action or reimbursement is in order.

Note to Self:
Follow up on this with a Nasty PM to Subman1
;)May I suggest washing them first? :D I'd like to help out, but the wife dumped all my money into our house lately, leaving me pennyless and flat broke! I think i have 50 cents in my pocket! :doh:

-S