NVidia is about to go down in flames

[SUBMAN1]

About the ugliest article I've seen on the new part coming out.

-S

...In the end, NV is facing a tough summer (http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/02/summer-bring-gpu-war) in the GPU business. They are effectively out of the Montevina market, and they are going to lose the high end in a spectacular way. Nvidia has no effective countermeasure to the R770, the GT200 was quite simply botched, and now they are going to pay for it.http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/29/nvidia-gt200-sucessor-tapes

[FIREWALL]

In layman terms.

What's your take on this SUBMAN1 ?

[HunterICX]

About the ugliest article I've seen on the new part coming out.

-S


Take a good look at the comments, most classify the article as complete Horsesh** :roll:

but in general I could care donkeypoo what Nvidia or Ati does or what happens with them, the new cards arent really the improvement you know...they just make it bigger and suck more watts out of your household, nice on the electricity bills.

HunterICX

[nikimcbee]

40% yield!:o That should be >90%. They must have serious contamination or process issues to achieve such a low number. I wonder who is making their chips, or do they make their own?

[Stealth Hunter]

I'm seconding Hunter's view. It's bull****, and it's an article written by The Inquirer (whom, if I remember correctly, once posted an article that read "Batboy Catches Saddam in Cave!").

Either way, I'm not a buyer of these new cards. In 7-15 years when new technology rises and video games change, we'll have to totally start from scratch, and as of the moment, my card is just fine, and it's going to remain that way for a few more years at least.

I wonder who is making their chips . . .

Probably the Chinese... possibly the Japanese.

[nikimcbee]

I'm seconding Hunter's view. It's bull****, and it's an article written by The Inquirer (whom, if I remember correctly, once posted an article that read "Batboy Catches Saddam in Cave!").

Either way, I'm not a buyer of these new cards. In 7-15 years when new technology rises and video games change, we'll have to totally start from scratch, and as of the moment, my card is just fine, and it's going to remain that way for a few more years at least.

I wonder who is making their chips . . .



If they were japanese, the engineers would have to commit seppuku for having such bad yield numbers.

[Stealth Hunter]

Good point.:lol:

[nikimcbee]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/funny-pictures-technical-support-cat.jpg

[mrbeast]

Probably the ..............

Nice way to offend Asian members of the forum Stealth Hunter ;)

[JSLTIGER]

I'll believe it when I see it. The majority of reporting from the Inquirer is a bunch of *?!#.

[Seth8530]

Umm the new series of cards is in no way bothed.


The GTX 280 enables all features of the D10U processor; the GTX 260 version will consist of a significantly cut-down version of the same GPU. The D10U-30 will enable all 240 unified stream processors designed into the processor. NVIDIA documentation claims these second-generation unified shaders perform 50 percent better than the shaders found on the D9 cards released earlier this year.

The main difference between the two new GeForce GTX variants revolves around the number of shaders and memory bus width. Most importantly, NVIDIA disables 48 stream processors on the GTX 260. GTX 280 ships with a 512-bit memory bus capable of supporting 1GB GDDR3 memory; the GTX 260 alternative has a 448-bit bus with support for 896MB.

GTX 280 and 260 add virtually all of the same features as GeForce 9800GTX: PCIe 2.0, OpenGL 2.1, SLI and PureVideoHD. The company also claims both cards will support two SLI-risers for 3-way SLI support.


SO it has double the shaders running 50% better, so i dont see where you can get bothced out of this.


Linkey http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11842

[Dowly]

Bah, nonsense! Long live Nvidia!:up:

[Seth8530]

*nvidia fan ferret dance*:p:p:p*nvidia fan ferret dance*
http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/userimages/user756_1168573880a.jpg

[fatty]

They've been on the ropes before. Remember the FX series or the first round of DX10 cards? Now we just wait for AMD to drop the ball again and the equilibrium will be back in order :yep:

[Dowly]

*nvidia fan ferret dance*:p:p:p*nvidia fan ferret dance*
http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/userimages/user756_1168573880a.jpg

AWwwwwww! Cute. ;)

[FIREWALL]

Even tho I have no love for poor Chinese manufacturing.

The phrase " slanted-eyed Chinese was IMHO in poor taste.

Your better than that SH. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

About the ugliest article I've seen on the new part coming out.

-S


Take a good look at the comments, most classify the article as complete Horsesh** :roll:

but in general I could care donkeypoo what Nvidia or Ati does or what happens with them, the new cards arent really the improvement you know...they just make it bigger and suck more watts out of your household, nice on the electricity bills.

HunterICX

For once.....I agree with you :lol:

[Wolfehunter]

I always by 2 generations down. This way I don't have driver issues and it works good for cheap!;)

[SUBMAN1]

My thoughts - if this is true. First off, its a MONSTER GPU - that thing has to be huge under that heat sink at that size! Second, way outside of my comfort range for power req's. 3rd, not modular like the future designs will warrant. Forth, overly complicated to manufacture a single card which will translate into big $$$ for us. 5th, expensive for even the memory since many chips are needed to create the 512 BW.

ATI might get its crown back it would seem. Even if they didn't for some unknown reason, I'd say that low power and decent speed always wins me over. For example, i hated ATI's 2900 XT part - that thing was a waste of space.

None of this means anythign though if you read between the lines - This is a case of NVidia resting on it's laurels more than anything. That ticks me off, regardless of company. Shows what would happen if their competition dropped out. We would all be stuck with high priced boards that aren't much better than the last one we bought. This is my big beef with what i see.

-S

[antikristuseke]

Yay for sensationalist bull****. This is the same kind of **** as AMD going out of business. Allso, yes beer.

[nikimcbee]

Yay for sensationalist bull****. This is the same kind of **** as AMD going out of business. Allso, yes beer.

Ha! I was at intel when they thought AMD was going out of business.:rotfl: That was right before the Athlon came out. Boy did intel get a surprise.:rotfl:

[goldorak]

40% yield!:o That should be >90%. They must have serious contamination or process issues to achieve such a low number. I wonder who is making their chips, or do they make their own?


Its already a miracle thay are obtaining those yields with a graphics chip as big as 500 mm^2.
Monolithic chips are not the way of the future (too big, too hot etc...), even Nvidia acknowledges it even though they still are going with monolithic chips for GT260, GTX280.

[SUBMAN1]

Its already a miracle thay are obtaining those yields with a graphics chip as big as 500 mm^2.
Monolithic chips are not the way of the future (too big, too hot etc...), even Nvidia acknowledges it even though they still are going with monolithic chips for GT260, GTX280.Them some true words!

-S