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Skybird
05-26-08, 03:59 PM
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,druck-555434,00.html

photos:
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,31844,00.html

I have to say, although some may call it a question of taste: visually the thing looks awful and simply terrible, and really is a mess for the surrounding location and atmophere and architecture - and that means something since that corner of the city I already did not like before (I know it from real life).

As the article says, German critics and newspapers unisono slam it, and I have not heared a single friendly word about it in private, too. It looks more like a high security prison in Bagdad, than an embassy in a western capital.

Regarding the representative value embassies also do have, the american architectures did their country no favour with this ugly thing. If this is the result of contemporary security assessements, then it tells something on the real score of that match between terrorists, and us (or America).

Boy is it ugly! :lol:

Catfish
05-26-08, 04:14 PM
Hi,
what a nice addition to the Bendler Block lol
Really there ARE much uglier buildings in Berlin ...
And very sad they tear down the old Tempelhof Airport.
Greetings,
Catfish

Skybird
05-26-08, 04:35 PM
Hi,

And very sad they tear down the old Tempelhof Airport.


They don't. It is a monument under protection. Just the airport stops operating. While the field maybe is used to build a park, or something else, the buildings will be sued for somethign different, but can't be deconstructed.

mrbeast
05-26-08, 04:36 PM
Nope.......Still can't see the embassy theres some crappy office block in the way with a US flag on it.................oh right now I get you :roll:

Perhaps the focus on security is to make the building so boring and generic that any terrorists will miss it entirely; walk straight past because that can't be the US embassy. :hmm:

Nice location next to the Brandenburg Gate so I guess the people inside will have something to look at.

I've seen worse buidings though. The Arndale Centre in Manchester (big shopping mall in the city centre) used to look like a giant public toilet, that was until the IRA kindly blew the front off it for us. Looks pretty respectable now.

CCIP
05-26-08, 05:33 PM
Eh, at least it's banal and not horrendously ugly as the one here in Ottawa!

(The American embassy here looks like a semi-futuristic fortress that smacks of the stereotypical militarism and arrogance that unfortunately some associate with America. What's worse, in recent years they blocked off a lane of traffic on each side of the embassy just to protect it from car bombs - so the scene looks even more arrogant and paranoid than it normally would.)

joegrundman
05-26-08, 07:00 PM
How very delicately put CCIP!

In prime central London an entire square is blocked off with concrete barricades to satisfy the security wishes of our best friend and protector.

bradclark1
05-26-08, 08:40 PM
Its because we want to feel special.

SUBMAN1
05-26-08, 09:36 PM
Too me, it looks like it meshes well with the architecture around it. And besides, I wouldn't trust the Germans much either to not try and bomb it. :D They are already sending out propaganda to say it looks ugly so some German decides to take it out!

-S

bookworm_020
05-27-08, 12:27 AM
Its because we want to feel special.

Well at least the embassies in Canberra look OK, with many of them having a cutural influance on there desigh.:yep:

Lurchi
05-27-08, 01:26 AM
Too me, it looks like it meshes well with the architecture around it [...] I agree with this!

Berlin has been raped by hordes of mediocre architecture students since the wall came down.

You want proof?
Okay! Take a look at the new "Reichs"kanzlei
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:07.08.21.Bundeskanzleramt.jpg

The new U.S. Embassy fits into this very well ... and it is still one of the better buildings.

Skybird
05-27-08, 03:40 AM
Berlin has been raped by hordes of mediocre architecture students since the wall came down.

Oh yes - OH YES!!!

Architectures should be held responsible for the visual crimes they commit. There are some corners and streets that I do recognize again only at second or third glance. And almost never the changes are for the better.

Schroeder
05-27-08, 05:00 AM
Sure, it's not a beauty but I think it's not that bad either.

I can still recall seeing our embassy in Canberra. No one of our travelling group took a picture of it because it was so ugly.....http://www.smilevalley.de/smileys/Kotzen/28.gif (http://www.smilevalley.de/)

Stealth Hunter
05-27-08, 05:40 AM
Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles,
Uber alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Bruderlich zusammenhalt,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an der Belt.


Good old Germany; and I must also agree with Skybird's post about the architecture. Germany still tops off all other countries in landscapes, though.:yep:

Schroeder
05-27-08, 06:32 AM
But you are aware that we aren't using the first paragraph of the "Deutschlandlied" anymore?;)

Tchocky
05-27-08, 08:06 AM
US embassy in Dublin is fairly nasty, but most embassies are.
Example - the UK embassy in Berlin - what is it?

Counter-Example - the Russian embassy on Unter den Linden :)

HunterICX
05-27-08, 10:02 AM
Modern architecture is something I never will undestand....

HunterICX

Schroeder
05-27-08, 02:28 PM
I think it's also a matter of costs. If you want to put up a great embassy you'll have to explain to your people why it has cost so many million $,€, etc.

I surely prefer our ugly ones with low costs over any embassy that costs several millions more and just serves the same purpose.