medals

[buddha95]

Far out !!!

I was awarded the cong. Medal of Honor on my 1st career patrol!! I can pass out 2 silver stars and 4 bronze stars !!!

NOW, does this mean anything for me or those i decorate,, or is it just eye candy??

also, having trouble w/deckgun elevation. i can only elevate it unzoomed and have to guess, then zoom in and read scale, back and forth, back and forth, till i get it where it should be,,, too much time, by now range has changed, . Can i access the meter to change range??

thanks in advance
good hunting to you all

[Schroeder]

It is very easy in SH IV to acquire the medal of honour (I think you must sink about 30,000t on a patrol).

The elevation of the deck gun can be changed while looking through the sights. Use the arrow keys to do it or move the mouse up and down.

[John W. Hamm]

Far out !!!

I was awarded the cong. Medal of Honor on my 1st career patrol!! I can pass out 2 silver stars and 4 bronze stars !!!

NOW, does this mean anything for me or those i decorate,, or is it just eye candy??

also, having trouble w/deckgun elevation. i can only elevate it unzoomed and have to guess, then zoom in and read scale, back and forth, back and forth, till i get it where it should be,,, too much time, by now range has changed, . Can i access the meter to change range??

thanks in advance
good hunting to you all

and yes giving crew medals adds to their abilities

[mikwarleo]

well playing hard difficulty and having sunk a kongo (iirc) BB and a Fleet CV [Hiryu- went under in 10 mins after 2 mk10s exploded under the stern - ;)] and only, oh, about 160,000 tonnes, 4/5 objectives completed on my first patrol all told - I was expecting some nice medals. I got the 'victory cross' ... wtf... same medal I got after sinking 2 parts of stuff all and completing mission? Top that off with 3x Patrol star, 2x sub service medal and 4x wounded medal for crew... non of crew were even wounded iirc. What am I doing wrong? :damn:

SH4, v1.4, 1941 camp based other place (not pearl harbour) in sugar boat...

[SteamWake]

Heh...

In my latest carier I got awarded a 'wounded medal' (Purple heart?) after a photo recon patrol in which we saw little to no action. :doh:

Spent most of our time avoiding contacts.

[mikwarleo]

hah.

but seriously, any ideas on how I can earn me some good medals?

I mean wtf is a victory cross? :roll: -----> I sunk a BB, CV & 160,000 tonnes with a damned sugar boat. Don't I deserve a bronze statue in the town square or something? :stare:

[SteamWake]

hah.

but seriously, any ideas on how I can earn me some good medals?

I mean wtf is a victory cross? :roll: -----> I sunk a BB, CV & 160,000 tonnes with a damned sugar boat. Don't I deserve a bronze statue in the town square or something? :stare:

Well as I tried to elude to in my previous post the medals are kind of random.

Sinking that kind of tonnage with an S boat should earn you the "Star Fleet Acadamy award of incredulous awsomness" :rotfl:

Furthermore the medals are intentionally unlike 'real' medals for legal reasons.

Been many a heated discussion here about that.

[Diopos]

hah.

but seriously, any ideas on how I can earn me some good medals?

I mean wtf is a victory cross? :roll: -----> I sunk a BB, CV & 160,000 tonnes with a damned sugar boat. Don't I deserve a bronze statue in the town square or something? :stare:

Oh you get your statue alright. If you do your 160000 tns, report them and then get sunk!:lol:

[Schroeder]

The stock medals of SHIV are crap.:down:
Use the realistic medal mod or RFB to get the real ones.:D

[mikwarleo]

Well as I tried to elude to in my previous post the medals are kind of random.

Great. What genious decided they'd be random?

Sinking that kind of tonnage with an S boat should earn you the "Star Fleet Acadamy award of incredulous awsomness" :rotfl:

lol, yes. My point exactly! Took me the better part of a day to finish that patrol and (said like angry 4yo): I want my medals!

Furthermore the medals are intentionally unlike 'real' medals for legal reasons.

Been many a heated discussion here about that.

Oh... that genious has been working overtime. To him I say BOOOOO. :down:


Use the realistic medal mod or RFB to get the real ones.:D

Ok ty, will look into that. Current situation blows. I was wondering could it have anything to do with the fact that I went back to port and did a refit 3 - 4 times (just basically grabed fuel and torps) to achieve this result? When I realised I could get more torps I wasn't always more careful than I could be with my torps but then again I nailed many ships with deck gun which should help my ratio too. I find it hard to believe they'd take such a mickey mouse approach and make medals random.

[buddha95]

Hard dif level, sank lg tanker, dd, 2 bb, 1 lg aircraft carrier.
recieved a wounded medal and a victory cross. nothing else!!!!
what is a victory cross. looked on google ,, got no answer. Now i wouldnt complain if it was a Victoria cross, that would be cool

[tigone]

buddha95 asked:

> What is a Victory Cross?

It's made-up; the original game uses fictitious medals. Not sure why. Except for the Medal of Honor, which is protected by law, any schmuck can go into most any surplus store in the U.S. or online and buy any medal he wants. I suspect, rather than actual legal liability, Ubisoft simply wanted to avoid the controversy and complaints that might come from awarding "real" medals -- path of least resistance, you see. . . .

As mentioned, there are a number of mods that restore actual medals to the game.

[Fearless]

With all the faulty fish I have onboard, I'd be lucky to get any medals :lol:

[mikwarleo]

links please to best medal mods for 1.5 ? I've look a lot and no joy.

[tigone]

mikwarleo Wrote:

> please to best medal mods for 1.5 ? I've look a lot and no joy.

Here is one, which acknowledges some limitations (haven't used it myself):

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109864

The comprehensive mods Real Fleet Boat and Trigger Maru both incorporate real medals, I believe.

[tigone]

Oh, wait -- I didn't get that, either.

Starting a new career in June 1944 using TMO/RSRDC, I sailed from Manjuro and was assigned to patrol west of Saipan, in what would become known later as the Battle of the Philippine Sea. I managed to intercept a large IJN task force and, while the carriers slipped by me, I managed to sink one Yamato Class battleship and damage another. I completed my time on station, and was then ordered back to base. But while I got credit for the tonnage, I got zip-squat-nada for medals, not even an official, suitabe-for-framing Certificate of Participation.

Sorry for the whine, but what's going here? Is this just another case of medal awards being FUBAR in SH4, or (maybe?) is the system failing to handle a result that is cleary unhistorical? For some reason, I'd be more comfortable with the latter.

[LukeFF]

Sorry for the whine, but what's going here? Is this just another case of medal awards being FUBAR in SH4, or (maybe?) is the system failing to handle a result that is cleary unhistorical? For some reason, I'd be more comfortable with the latter.

One of the devs has said the award requirements changed with 1.5 since they were too easy to get before. However, it looks like that has swung too far in the opposite direction now. Sinking a Yamato Class BB should at least warrant a Silver Star.

[tigone]

LukeFF wrote:

> Sinking a Yamato Class BB should at least warrant a Silver Star.

One would think so.

It might be worth noting O'Kane's recollection of the medals policy, from Clear the Bridge!, Part IV, Chapter 1 (pp. 189-90 of the Bantam paperback edition):
So in early 1943 a directive to hasten awards in submarines was approved by Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Fleet (CinCPac). Now the division commander would review the patrol report, question witnesses, and if warranted could recommend that a skipper sinking one ship receive the Secretary of the Navy's Letter of Commendation. For two ships, his recommendation could be a Silver Star Medal, and for three or more ships, the Navy Cross. Depaending on his own award, the skipper could then recommend a specified number of subordinate awards for members of his ship's company, though all had to be approved by CinCPac's Board of Awards.
Clearly this is the type of award mechanism that Ubisoft was shooting at, and it makes sense, both from a gameplay and historical perspective. But the implementation is badly muddled.

In my case (one Yamato sunk, the other damaged, with no medals), I was offered the opportunity to award a Bronze Star and Silver Star (one of each) to my crew. But that was dodgy as well -- the images shown in the award window, at left, for the Bronze and Silver Stars were, respectively, the Medal of Honor and the Distinguished Service Medal. (Both medals appeared with the correct images in the crewmens' files once awarded.

What a mess.

[aanker]

I am pretty sure that I am using a fix by Ducimus et all that requires editing changes into the menu.ini and menu.txt. Whatever I am using shows the correct medals to award the crew before they are dragged over to the crewmen. The topic is at the kickinbak forum, scroll down to the 11:27 pm post:
http://forum.kickinbak.com/viewtopic.php?t=303

Maybe someone made a fix since this one but I've been very happy with it - so are my crew!

Happy Hunting!

Art

PS: I hope it's ok to post the link kickinbak guys - thanks!

[Seminole]

too easy to get before

man that is the truth...I installed real medals mod and now have more Congressional Medals of Honor than Kerry had Purple Hearts.

Getting handed out "real" medals like hors d' oeuvre from a party platter is just as bad as getting those fictious ones.

I do hope 1.5 fixes this.

[Fearless]

I'm not too fussed about medals however one now and again would be nice. Medals are awarded to crew members though :hmm:

[Seminole]

Yeah the crew members don't give a hoot what kind of medal they get just as long as they come as often and as easily as possible. ;)

...and for that ...I'm with them...:yep: ..anything to keep them on their toes.