Setting the record straight.

[JackhammerJohn]

The thread I started inquiring if SH3 needed the DVD Disc is closed. I feel this is because someone thought I was asking for an illegal copy or workaround. I was not. I have bought all my games including SH ! and its expansions, SH2 (someone owes me for that :D ), SH3, and SH4.

When I installed SH4, I found that it doesn't need the DVD disc. I didn't have any third party software. I thought it works like Half-Life 2 where it checks on the internet of your registered copy and just starts up. Since SH3 looks similar in its start up operation I thought perhaps it would do the same. I tend to switch back and forth between the games.

Thank you. I felt the need to stand up for my ship's reputation.

[ReallyDedPoet]

No harm done JackhammerJohn to your rep. Sorry if that was implied by closing the thread. It's just that the thread you started most always leads to talks of cracks and the sort. One post in was all it took for yours. There is no other way around the situation but to close the thread as there is no legal patch.

With the digital version of SH3 obviously the DVD-CD is not required, however for other versions they are.


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[HW3]

With the digital version of SH3 obviously the DVD-CD is not required, however for other versions they are.


My understanding is that version of SH III released on DVD in 2007, already patched to 1.4b, does not contain StarForce and does not need the DVD in the tray.

[ReallyDedPoet]

I have heard that as well ( from another member here ), but did a little research ( checked the UBI Forums, etc. ) and could not come across anything. If that is the case it would be really helpful if somebody could point us to a reputable link
regarding this :yep:


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[3Jane]

Bought my copy of SHIII from Amazon-u.k. Doesn't need the dvd in the drive. As far as I can see it is a factory sealed licenced copy.

[Cheapskate]

With the digital version of SH3 obviously the DVD-CD is not required, however for other versions they are.


My understanding is that version of SH III released on DVD in 2007, already patched to 1.4b, does not contain StarForce and does not need the DVD in the tray.

Absolutely correct HW3. Have recently obtained a copy of the Focus Multimedia version ( barcode 5031366016324 ) and confirm that it is fully patched to 1.4b, contains no SF, and plays with no disc in drive.

This is currently available from Amazon UK, Play.com and Game costing between Pds Stg 8 -10.

Additionally, as reported elsewhere in these forums, it has appeared in Retail outllets such as Morrisons and Woolworth.

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@RDP

Don't know whether this link will help:-

http://www.focusmm.co.uk/shop/Silent-Hunter-III-pr-578.html

If you check out vid credits, you will see that it says this version is licensed to Focus (which is also printed on the DVD label).

[ReallyDedPoet]

He, he, look at me having the SUBSIM brain-fart of the day :doh::doh:
Oh well, just makes our jobs a little more difficult with the illegal copies that
are out there.

Thanks for input here.


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[Jimbuna]

Bit late coming in on this RDP but I can confirm I have a legit copy that does not require the disc be inserted after first initial installation.

Believe it or not, it's the bargain bin discs that have this facility and IIRC have been around retail outlets (in the UK) since autumn last year http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[ReallyDedPoet]

Bit late coming in on this RDP but I can confirm I have a legit copy that does not require the disc be inserted after first initial installation.

Thanks Jim.

Anybody know if UBI officially released anything for earlier releases of SH3.


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[JScones]

Bit late coming in on this RDP but I can confirm I have a legit copy that does not require the disc be inserted after first initial installation.

Thanks Jim.

Anybody know if UBI officially released anything for earlier releases of SH3.
By pure coincidence I asked a Ubi contact this yesterday...just waiting for his response.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Bit late coming in on this RDP but I can confirm I have a legit copy that does not require the disc be inserted after first initial installation.

Thanks Jim.

Anybody know if UBI officially released anything for earlier releases of SH3. By pure coincidence I asked a Ubi contact this yesterday...just waiting for his response.

Excellent, lets hope he does not take to long :)


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[HW3]

The mods from the UBI SH III forum have asked UBI for some kind of guidance on this matter but, have recieved no answer from them last I read about it.

[Jimbuna]

Bit late coming in on this RDP but I can confirm I have a legit copy that does not require the disc be inserted after first initial installation.

Thanks Jim.

Anybody know if UBI officially released anything for earlier releases of SH3.


RDP

As far as I'm aware, no.....It would appear other distribution labels have took it upon themselves to release the versions they have.

One thing that puzzles me though is the fact that surely Ubi were informed prior to said action lest the distributor run the risk of possible copyright infringement.

I suspect Ubi turnrd a blind eye once they parted company with SF.

[HW3]

As far as I'm aware, no.....It would appear other distribution labels have took it upon themselves to release the versions they have.

One thing that puzzles me though is the fact that surely Ubi were informed prior to said action lest the distributor run the risk of possible copyright infringement.

I suspect Ubi turnrd a blind eye once they parted company with SF.

My guess would be UBI licenced them to release the updated version, and then were through with SH III, figuring there was no more money to made with it.

[FIREWALL]

Just to add a little more confuseion to the soup.

I have bought 3 SH-3 from GameStop/ EB Games.

And all 3 have the same Keycode. And they were bought at different times.

I've always wondered why.

[HW3]

Because they used the same key code for the U.S. version. They even put it in the UBI knowledge base. Do a search there under PC/Silent Hunter 3 and you will find it.

[FIREWALL]

Thx HW3 :up:

[Laufen zum Ziel]

Jackhammerjohn,

My oppinion only. I understood your first post and was going to respond with a digital DL site but your post had been closed.

I am also against piracy, as is subsim, and feel that your post was not even close.

[JackhammerJohn]

Jackhammerjohn,

My opinion only. I understood your first post and was going to respond with a digital DL site but your post had been closed.

I am also against piracy, as is subsim, and feel that your post was not even close.

Thank you. I wasn't mad or anything, just wanted to set the record straight. Thanks for saying so, though.

However, I did learn a lot about why SH4 doesn't need a disc. I thought I did some sort of install option that I didn't see. I bought SH3 when it first came out, but my machine back then wasn't powerful enough to run it. So I broke it out when I upgraded. I love both SH3 and SH4 (though I think Aces of the Deep and the first SH are the best . . . nothing like your first).

Thanks for the info.

[JScones]

Because they used the same key code for the U.S. version. They even put it in the UBI knowledge base. Do a search there under PC/Silent Hunter 3 and you will find it.
Likewise the EMEA code. While not (tmk) in the UBI knowledge base, it is freely available on both the German UBI forums and in this forum.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Jackhammerjohn,

My oppinion only. I understood your first post and was going to respond with a digital DL site but your post had been closed.

I am also against piracy, as is subsim, and feel that your post was not even close.
Just seeing this one :D

Now I am setting the record straight. It was not his post, but the follow-up to it in that thread that was the issue,
I explained this in my above post. Plus, JH already mentioned that he already had a copy of SH3, and has been discussed here
we are still trying to see if UBI released a legal no cd\dvd for older releases.


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[Graf Paper]

Ubi has yet to release an official "NoSF" patch and I highly doubt they would waste the man-hours needed to create such a patch for an unsupported game.

I've been through every inch of Ubi's web site and FTP server and have yet to see anything offered other than the 1.4b patch, a few wallpapers, and a couple of videos that have been there for years now.

There's always the off-chance that some dedicated and sympathetic employee might rattle off a patch in his spare time but then it would have to get past Ubi's legal dept and you know how dramatic and tight-*ssed corporate lawyers can be. :roll:

[JScones]

Ubi has yet to release an official "NoSF" patch and I highly doubt they would waste the man-hours needed to create such a patch for an unsupported game.

I've been through every inch of Ubi's web site and FTP server and have yet to see anything offered other than the 1.4b patch, a few wallpapers, and a couple of videos that have been there for years now.

There's always the off-chance that some dedicated and sympathetic employee might rattle off a patch in his spare time but then it would have to get past Ubi's legal dept and you know how dramatic and tight-*ssed corporate lawyers can be. :roll:
As evidence suggests that there are budget versions out there both sans Starforce and the requirement to insert the DVD, logic would suggest that it's already been done, and authorised, by UBI. ;)

[jpm1]

correct me if i'm wrong but i've heard removed by RDP since you've purchased a copy of the game (hope written like that i won't make the thread to be closed) personnaly i've a non 1.4b patched version removed by RDP

[Vacillator]

correct me if i'm wrong but i've heard somewhere that no http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/jpm1/Emoticons/disc.gif patches aren't illegal since you've purchased a copy of the game (hope written like that i won't make the thread to be closed) personnaly i've a non 1.4b patched version and i need the http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/jpm1/Emoticons/disc.gif to be inserted for the game to work

That sounds fine to me, as long as you have purchased it and you don't pass it on to someone else :yep:

[Brer Rabbit]

As have mentioned on some other posts I have downloaded SH3 directly from the UBI site for $20, no disk, no SF and patched to 1.4. I did this rather that battle the clean install/uninstall problems. All works great with GXX2.1.

Keep sinking the all

[Reece]

I have the original release with SF & since purchased a late version for under $20 here in Aust, patched to 1.4b, I have compared & found the files concerned that do not have SF!:yep: Would uploading this be legal since it is genuine UBI files?:smug: Chew on that!:lol:

Edit: btw, the new version without SF has been released by UBI, not a third party.

[d@rk51d3]

Now I am setting the record straight. It was not his post, but the follow-up to it in that thread that was the issue,


Errr, so that would be my post then? :hmm:

Sorry if I said anything against the rules and regs of Subsim, I just wanted to warn him of the dangers of taking a thread down that path. We've seen it too many times, with allegations of Piracy and fingers being pointed.

It was refeshing though to see all playing nicely on the topic here.:up:

Cheers.

[ReallyDedPoet]

correct me if i'm wrong but i've heard somewhere that removed by RDP since you've purchased a copy of the game (hope written like that i won't make the thread to be closed) personnaly i've a non 1.4b patched version removed by RDP work
That sounds fine to me, as long as you have purchased it and you don't pass it on to someone else :yep:
He just did pass it on here, so it is not fine ( talk of cracks not permitted ) . Again for earlier versions we are waiting word from UBI regarding this, hopefully we will hear something.


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[ReallyDedPoet]

correct me if i'm wrong but i've heard removed by RDP since you've purchased a copy of the game (hope written like that i won't make the thread to be closed) personnaly i've a non 1.4b patched version removed by RDP


Talks of no cd\dvd patches are not permitted, post edited. As mentioned we are trying to get UBI to shed some light on this :yep:

Thread will stay open for the time being as there has been some good constructive
discussionn on related matters.


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[Vacillator]

He just did pass it on here


Sorry RDP. I was referring to not passing on his DVD for others to use since he no longer needed it, not to passing on the knowledge of that which shall not be spoken of.

In other words, buy one copy, use one copy.

[jpm1]

correct me if i'm wrong but i've heard somewhere that removed by RDP since you've purchased a copy of the game (hope written like that i won't make the thread to be closed) personnaly i've a non 1.4b patched version removed by RDP work
That sounds fine to me, as long as you have purchased it and you don't pass it on to someone else :yep:
He just did pass it on here, so it is not fine ( talk of cracks not permitted ) . Again for earlier versions we are waiting word from UBI regarding this, hopefully we will hear something.


RDP

ok (thanks for not having erased the whole post)

[Forward Observer]

I have the original version of the game, but would like to purchase one of the patched non-Starforce disk copies of the game.

I ended up with two copies of X3 because of this also.

Does anybody have the US published UPC code for the patched, non Starforce version or other package info, so I can make sure that is what I am buying.

Thanks