Dangerous trend ... gas thieves

[geetrue]

Gas is $3.92 on the west coast ... this is a dirty no good gas stealing trend that is going to cost someone their life.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa080423_mo_gas.93f75038.html

[August]

Gas is $3.92 on the west coast ... this is a dirty no good gas stealing trend that is going to cost someone their life.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa080423_mo_gas.93f75038.html

Seems they have changed their tactics. I remember back in the 1970's having to buy a locking gas cap but looks like even that won't work this time.

[Stealth Hunter]

And people who steal the gas only cause the prices to go up.:roll:

We need an international market where we can set a single price for all gas stations so they can't charge outrageous prices for fuel. It's a shame that people have gotten killed over gas in the past. I read about a shooting a few months ago in Arkansas (I think) over gas. Costed the young attendant his life and the man who did it is now stuck in prison all because he wouldn't pay for the gas.

[Ducimus]

I find myself seriously wondering how i can booby trap the underside of my car now.
I HATE theives. I would sooner have my car blow them to hell, then have someone steal from me. Yes, intentional mad max reference. Glad my car is parked in a gated community, but i know damn well if someone wants in, they'll find a way.

[Sailor Steve]

We need an international market where we can set a single price for all gas stations so they can't charge outrageous prices for fuel.
We need for governments to stop putting outrageous taxes on fuel.

[Tchocky]

I wonder what the price of petrol here per litre works out to in dollars.

*googles*

Wow, gotta love the hidden functionality on google :D

http://www.google.com/search?q=1.2+EUR+per+litre+in+USD+per+gallon&btnG=Google+Search

[August]

I wonder what the price of petrol here per litre works out to in dollars.

Pretty much all of the difference is taxes right?

[Wolfehunter]

Ya I bought a lockable gas cap. Someone in my appartment complex was stealing gas. I found out when I was about to go on a road trip with an almost empty tank of gas. Man was I ticked off. Anyhow drilling into a tank.... How can you fight back on that one? You can't....:nope:

What? Do I have to sleep in my car with a shotgun now?:hmm:

[Tchocky]

Pretty much all of the difference is taxes right?
Mostly, yes. (Actually, i don't know this for sure. I'm saying yes because it seems logical, can't think of any extraneous costs between supplying the US and Ireland)
One can see the rationale, though. America is much vaster than Ireland/Europe, and the public transport system is not as widespread, so the individual automobile has to have lower running costs.
Environmental implications are another consideration, that's where much petrol tax becomes Pigovian.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Ya I bought a lockable gas cap. Someone in my appartment complex was stealing gas. I found out when I was about to go on a road trip with an almost empty tank of gas. Man was I ticked off. Anyhow drilling into a tank.... How can you fight back on that one? You can't....:nope:

What? Do I have to sleep in my car with a shotgun now?:hmm:
You know those Geico commercials with ninjas/secret service guarding vehicles? Maybe that is the better route to go now...:D

PD

[Wolfehunter]

Ya I bought a lockable gas cap. Someone in my appartment complex was stealing gas. I found out when I was about to go on a road trip with an almost empty tank of gas. Man was I ticked off. Anyhow drilling into a tank.... How can you fight back on that one? You can't....:nope:

What? Do I have to sleep in my car with a shotgun now?:hmm:
You know those Geico commercials with ninjas/secret service guarding vehicles? Maybe that is the better route to go now...:D

PD:o ....:damn: WHY didn't I think of that!!!:shifty: Thanks PD.:up:

[August]

Mostly, yes. (Actually, i don't know this for sure. I'm saying yes because it seems logical, can't think of any extraneous costs between supplying the US and Ireland)

I expect you're right about that.

One can see the rationale, though. America is much vaster than Ireland/Europe, and the public transport system is not as widespread, so the individual automobile has to have lower running costs.
Environmental implications are another consideration, that's where much petrol tax becomes Pigovian.

Yeah our problem is we have had nearly universal access to personal automobiles for so long, and we got them at a time when most of the countrys infrastructure was just being built, that just about everything here is laid out in such a way that having a car is an absolute necessity.

If they push Pigovian (thanks BTW for turning me on to that word) tax schemes on gas here and it'll quickly becomee torch and pitchfork time and our pols know it.

[kiwi_2005]

Trying to stay on topic here, but petrol prices have gone up to $2 a litre it now costs me $120 to fill it up (6 cylinda Capri 2 door) compared to around $70 before the price hike. So my car now sits in the garage and i walk more often into town.

Seriously thinking of converting my car to use LPG gas. Gas is still very cheap to run.

[FIREWALL]

The best deterrent to prevent gas thieves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_&_Wesson_Model_29

[geetrue]

I have a plan ... take an old car you would have the wrecking yard come and get.

If you don't have one just ask anyone that has a lot of old cars in their yard if you can borrow one of his.

Save all of your pee for a week to pour into the old car's gas tank or have a barbecue for your buddies and everyone pee in the gas tank of your undercover car, right?

Then tow it to a street these theives operate on ... One mouhfull of the planted car's fuel would be a great payback. :know:

[lesrae]

Pretty much all of the difference is taxes right?
Mostly, yes. (Actually, i don't know this for sure. I'm saying yes because it seems logical, can't think of any extraneous costs between supplying the US and Ireland)

I agree, here in England it's about $8.60 (£1.15) a litre and in Scotland last week one garage was selling at $9.75 (£1.30), but that was due to the predicted shortages caused by the strike at the Grangemouth refinery. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7369287.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7369287.stm)

[Kapitan]

$3.92 per gallon wow if only i could pay that for my fuel !

its £1.10 a litre here which is £5.50 per gallon to you thats around $10.92 per gallon.

I suppose it doesnt help that alot of american folk drive around in big V6 or V8 gas guzzleing machines im about to get a 2.0litre diesel mondeo she will do around 50 miles to a gallon and well worth the £6k investment.

by the way prices were worked out by online yahoo currency converter.

[Tchocky]

I'm getting $8.50 per gallon here Kapitan

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=IpQ&q=1.1+GBP+per+litre+in+USD+per+gallon&btnG=Search&meta=

Still, as close enough as makes no difference

[Geno_Mariner]

Here's Sydney fuel pricing: http://www.shell.com/home/content/au-en/shell_for_motorists/petrol_pricing/dir_petrolpricing_0116.html
It's per litres I think.

[Kapitan]

I'm getting $8.50 per gallon here Kapitan

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=IpQ&q=1.1+GBP+per+litre+in+USD+per+gallon&btnG=Search&meta=

Still, as close enough as makes no difference

makes alot of diffrence if your filling up a 62 litre tank i started driving 2 years ago i could fill up a 62 litre tank for £44 (was around 79.9p per litre) since then the same tank costs me £73.50 roughly (£110.9 per litre) see the diffrence?

I have a 2.0litre rover 600 does around 42MPG on a run at 58mph all the way, most american cars are 3.6 to 4.6 V6's and V8'S doing around 26MPG.

My friends for mustang 4.6GT automatic does 21MPG.

If you had a economical engine or even a diesel car you would save a heck of alot, the same rover 600 in diesel does around 51MPG it costs more to fill up but you get alot more miles over a longer run per gallon.

Im planning on buying a 2.0litre 130BHP 6 speed manual TDCI modeo (diesel) according to the fact sheet it averages 55MPG at 65MPH so at 56MPH maybe push for 60MPG in 6th gear).

Tax is cheaper on diesels so is the insurance only thing that stings us is the pump price (most are 116.9 per litre highest ive seen is 128.9 per litre).

Best of all its cheap as chips to run especialy on bio fuel.

[DeepIron]

Yeah, it's only going to get worse I'm afraid. To foil potential gas thieves, I've measured the fuel tank and mounting points on my wifes '99 Villager van. I have a friend who is welding up a 1/4" steel "tub" that will enclose the tank completely from below and also shield the filler neck. I've already added a switch to the fuel cap access door and integrated it into the van's alarm system. Fortunately, the fuel lines are already fairly inaccessable and I'm going to add 1/4" steel plates in a couple of places just in case.

If anyone want so syphon or puncture the tank, or cut and use a fuel line, they are really going to have to work at it. :up:

Now, if I could only get my wife to practice with the Glock...

[Kapitan]

We didnt need to do that the other week one of the busses went over a raise island solid concreate puncturing the 250litre diesel tank needless to say there wasnt any left afterwards.

What a dumb driver and what a waste.