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Xenomorphobia
04-22-08, 11:44 AM
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6135/wilhelmshavenbb4tirpitztr7.jpg

date:01-08-1939
i started my first patrol from wilhelmshaven to BF17. leaving the port i looked around to see what's new in GWX2.1's harbour scenes.

passing the breakwater i tooked a glance at the bb4 tirpitz and her mighty guns ... which were gone. i looked closer and .... also the mid-artillery was gone.

..... :hmm: .....

i thought about that for a while and i found these possible answers:

1) its the 1.st of august 1939, 4 month after the tirpitz was launched and nearly 1 and a half year before this ship will be put to service, so for now it's still under construction.

2) no need for the artillerys cos it's still peace time and nobody should be frightened.

3) for the moment the "kriegsmarinewerft wilhelmshaven" is bankrupt. the crane to lift these loads can't be optained.

4) 2 + 3 as well

5) the tirpitz should be shown with all 3d objects, there's something wrong and maybe i'll see things like that some more times.

what is your opinion on that, kaleuns?

Xeno

Sailor Steve
04-22-08, 11:49 AM
I'll have to go with 1 or 5. If the ship is still under construction it would explain it. If it's finished there's no way they'd go around without the guns just because it's peacetime.

So, it's either still under construction or it's a glitch.

6) You have a corrupted file somewhere?

Xenomorphobia
04-22-08, 12:03 PM
......

6) You have a corrupted file somewhere?
to be honest, kaleun! that's what i fear it is. thus answer number 5 is the option.

it's just some kind of fun to think about other reasons.

siber
04-22-08, 12:27 PM
I noticed that too, and I'm in March 1940.

However, I have yet to see any other warships without turrets where they should be.

Hmmm? :hmm:

danlisa
04-22-08, 12:52 PM
:rotfl:

No 1 is the answer.:yep:

mcf1
04-22-08, 01:03 PM
I've noticed it to, started on september 1939
It must be No1

McHibbins
04-22-08, 01:23 PM
They must capture them from Poland first :rotfl:

Sailor Steve
04-22-08, 03:49 PM
:rotfl:

No 1 is the answer.:yep:
:/\\k:

gord96
04-22-08, 03:52 PM
i have the same thing in my game:o

Jimbuna
04-22-08, 04:03 PM
No 1......ask us something harder, like......when were the guns actually fitted.

Too late....the answer is between Nov 40 and Feb 41 ;)

Actually the best clue is to look her up in the museum and go through the years.

A couple of interesting links if you don't already have them http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/gallery/galltirfittingout.html

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/history/tirconstr.html

Xenomorphobia
04-23-08, 01:41 PM
No 1......ask us something harder, like......when were the guns actually fitted.

Too late....the answer is between Nov 40 and Feb 41 ;)

.....


Hi, jimbuna!

no way, m8. my intention neither was to put some hard questions nor to explore the awareness of historical facts the kaleuns here have.:lol:

topic of this is just to eliminate my doubts like
"for the sake of realism the guys tried to point out that this ship still runs through its building period and that's why the arty's not where i expect it to be. but if it's still under construction, why aren't there any cranes or structural elements next to it, to support this suggestion clearly."

..stupid thoughts maybe

but ...

i found it quite hard here to differ between the intention to point out the ships building period or the very existence of a bug (corrupted files like some others already figured out) and considering bugs is something that makes me nervous and sometimes forces me to :damn: ...:lol:

maybe i remembered GWX1 too much here which shows the tirpitz at exactly the same spot and environment but completely fitted.

please don't get me wrong on this. a first class job it is to consider facts like the ships period of construction here.... like gwx is a first class job at all, no question on that, m8 and this hereby shall be pointed out clearly.:up::up:

for now

GOOD HUNTING!!!

Xeno

PS: and thanks for the links ... good stuff!

Jimbuna
04-23-08, 04:40 PM
No 1......ask us something harder, like......when were the guns actually fitted.

Too late....the answer is between Nov 40 and Feb 41 ;)

.....


Hi, jimbuna!

no way, m8. my intention neither was to put some hard questions nor to explore the awareness of historical facts the kaleuns here have.:lol:

topic of this is just to eliminate my doubts like
"for the sake of realism the guys tried to point out that this ship still runs through its building period and that's why the arty's not where i expect it to be. but if it's still under construction, why aren't there any cranes or structural elements next to it, to support this suggestion clearly."

..stupid thoughts maybe

but ...

i found it quite hard here to differ between the intention to point out the ships building period or the very existence of a bug (corrupted files like some others already figured out) and considering bugs is something that makes me nervous and sometimes forces me to :damn: ...:lol:

maybe i remembered GWX1 too much here which shows the tirpitz at exactly the same spot and environment but completely fitted.

please don't get me wrong on this. a first class job it is to consider facts like the ships period of construction here.... like gwx is a first class job at all, no question on that, m8 and this hereby shall be pointed out clearly.:up::up:

for now

GOOD HUNTING!!!

Xeno

PS: and thanks for the links ... good stuff!

No prob matey....all the very best from blighty

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Xenomorphobia
04-23-08, 05:01 PM
No prob matey....all the very best from blighty

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.. Yessss, Sir! ..:rotfl:thank you!

papa_smurf
04-24-08, 01:23 PM
I have the most likely answer:

7 - Bernard got hold of the Tirpitz, and took her out for a "test drive"

mcf1
04-24-08, 01:28 PM
I have the most likely answer:

7 - Bernard got hold of the Tirpitz, and took her out for a "test drive"

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Xenomorphobia
04-24-08, 06:23 PM
I have the most likely answer:

7 - Bernard got hold of the Tirpitz, and took her out for a "test drive"
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl:..... you guys somehow like the name bernhard :hmm:....

8- bernhard, somehow made it to the executive engineer in naval design at kriegsmarinewerft wilhelmshaven.

he tried to design the ultimate unsinkable battleship. therefore, and smart as he was, he asked himself

"why do battleships sink?"

...:hmm:...

after a lot of brain working he said

"..cos other ships sink them"

immediatly he asked himself again

"why do other ships 'a' sink battleships 'b'?"

...:hmm:...

he mumbled
"....battle...sssship = b ..b != sink like sub = u....attacking b = a... if sink then sub ..if.or this ....else...... number of guns = n ..... b attacking a -> a will defend ...
cause = b^(mighty guns)*n/a .....effect= defensive a .....damage b =n*a^(mighty guns)...b = u"

....:damn:......

.....:shifty:.......

.......:sunny:....

...guess why?

:know:

"...cos they have mighty guns".......:huh:

mcf1
04-24-08, 11:49 PM
I have the most likely answer:

7 - Bernard got hold of the Tirpitz, and took her out for a "test drive"
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl:..... you guys somehow like the name bernhard :hmm:....

8- bernhard, somehow made it to the executive engineer in naval design at kriegsmarinewerft wilhelmshaven.

he tried to design the ultimate unsinkable battleship. therefore, and smart as he was, he asked himself

"why do battleships sink?"

...:hmm:...

after a lot of brain working he said

"..cos other ships sink them"

immediatly he asked himself again

"why do other ships 'a' sink battleships 'b'?"

...:hmm:...

he mumbled
"....battle...sssship = b ..b != sink like sub = u....attacking b = a... if sink then sub ..if.or this ....else...... number of guns = n ..... b attacking a -> a will defend ...
cause = b^(mighty guns)*n/a .....effect= defensive a .....damage b =n*a^(mighty guns)...b = u"

....:damn:......

.....:shifty:.......

.......:sunny:....

...guess why?

:know:

"...cos they have mighty guns".......

Nice one but that's to much thinking and Bernard with his poor little mind
can't handle

msalama
04-25-08, 12:09 AM
Nice one but that's to much thinking and Bernard with his poor little mind can't handle

Nah, he thinks a lot and blethers incoherently and constantly about his findings too I've found... it's just that his conclusions seem to have a way of being somewhat bass-ackwards as regards how the _rest_ of the universe thinks and works :rotfl:

And oh, BTW, someone once told me he was associated with the Torpedo Directorate back in the 30's as a planner or some such bigwig as well... now who would've guessed :hmm:

mcf1
04-25-08, 04:47 AM
Nice one but that's to much thinking and Bernard with his poor little mind can't handle

Nah, he thinks a lot and blethers incoherently and constantly about his findings too I've found... it's just that his conclusions seem to have a way of being somewhat bass-ackwards as regards how the _rest_ of the universe thinks and works :rotfl:

And oh, BTW, someone once told me he was associated with the Torpedo Directorate back in the 30's as a planner or some such bigwig as well... now who would've guessed :hmm:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: