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DeepIron
04-17-08, 10:20 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7352654.stm
Speaking at the parade, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran was the most powerful nation in the world.Hmmm, ok... if you intended to attack with stunt riders on motorcycles...
Skybird
04-17-08, 11:59 AM
The proverbial, flowery language of the orient. :lol:
bradclark1
04-17-08, 12:07 PM
Those are those new environment friendly motorcycles. The guy in back raises up and down which powers a spring piston. Two thousand humps to the mile.
DeepIron
04-17-08, 12:19 PM
Those are those new environment friendly motorcycles. The guy in back raises up and down which powers a spring piston. Two thousand humps to the mile.:rotfl:
Skybird
04-17-08, 01:41 PM
Those are those new environment friendly motorcycles. The guy in back raises up and down which powers a spring piston. Two thousand humps to the mile.
Build-in dildo in the saddle..? :hmm:
Zayphod
04-17-08, 02:08 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7352654.stm
Speaking at the parade, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran was the most powerful nation in the world.Hmmm, ok... if you intended to attack with stunt riders on motorcycles...
He said Iran was now so powerful that "none of the current world powers are capable of, and have the courage to, threaten the Iranian nation and its interests and security".
In other news, the Titanic was declared to be unsinkable. :rotfl:
Notice that when we have parades in the USA, we have floats, high school marching bands, the town mayor, etc. All these other guys seem to want to flaunt their missles.
I sense Ahmadinejad has........penis envy. :huh:
Zayphod
04-17-08, 02:10 PM
Those are those new environment friendly motorcycles. The guy in back raises up and down which powers a spring piston. Two thousand humps to the mile.
Build-in dildo in the saddle..? :hmm:
No, that would be a Sybian. :know:
mrbeast
04-17-08, 02:50 PM
Those are those new environment friendly motorcycles. The guy in back raises up and down which powers a spring piston. Two thousand humps to the mile.
Build-in dildo in the saddle..? :hmm:
Think they'd say that was un-Islamic Skybird. :hmm:
:D
bookworm_020
04-17-08, 09:16 PM
Maybe there powered by canned cammel farts????:hmm:
bradclark1
04-18-08, 08:21 AM
They changed the picture!! Maybe the BBC got threatened because its an un-islamic picture.
AntEater
04-18-08, 09:14 AM
Actually these bikers are somewhat of a tradition in the Iranian military.
Apparently a successful (if somewhat suicidal) tactic of the IRGC in the 1980s war against Iraq was to attack Iraqui tanks with motocross bikes and RPGs.
Against T-55s this was apparently a good tactic.
I wonder what "real" weapons were shown. For example, were there any new aircraft prototypes. On youtube, I only saw the usual suspects, Phantoms, F-5s, MiG-29s and the last active Tomcats in the world....
peterloo
04-18-08, 10:00 AM
I guess what you've to worry is the Scud missiles and the Iranian local made missiles, which can deal some punishments to anyone who goes wrong with it, especially Isreals
Remember the rockets that is launched to Isreal last year. They have little military value but have large demoalization values.
bradclark1
04-18-08, 11:53 AM
Against T-55s this was apparently a good tactic.
It's a good tactic with any heavy armor just not as survivable with powered turrets. You have a good supply of martyrs and it's economical you can't go wrong.
Against T-55s this was apparently a good tactic.
It's a good tactic with any heavy armor just not as survivable with powered turrets. You have a good supply of martyrs and it's economical you can't go wrong.
Except that supporting infantry should be able to stop such an attack without much difficulty.
bradclark1
04-18-08, 06:36 PM
Against T-55s this was apparently a good tactic.
It's a good tactic with any heavy armor just not as survivable with powered turrets. You have a good supply of martyrs and it's economical you can't go wrong.
Except that supporting infantry should be able to stop such an attack without much difficulty.
If they are working as a team or if the infantry are deployed or if they aren't too busy trying to stop them getting to their Bradley's or if ............... Bottom line it's a good cheap tank killer. Hell, you can buy a bunch of motorcycles for the price of one AT missile. There never seems to be a shortage of martyrs. You can't go wrong.
Against T-55s this was apparently a good tactic.
It's a good tactic with any heavy armor just not as survivable with powered turrets. You have a good supply of martyrs and it's economical you can't go wrong.
Except that supporting infantry should be able to stop such an attack without much difficulty. If they are working as a team or if the infantry are deployed or if they aren't too busy trying to stop them getting to their Bradley's or if ............... Bottom line it's a good cheap tank killer. Hell, you can buy a bunch of motorcycles for the price of one AT missile. There never seems to be a shortage of martyrs. You can't go wrong.
Well suicide attacks are nothing new in warfare Brad. However I seriously doubt that a bunch of idiots on motorcycles willing to die for Allah would be any more successful than the Kamakazis, Banzai charges or the human wave tactics used by the Red Chinese in Korea to name a few examples.
Don't get me wrong, like any other enemy tactic they would be something to prepare for but i'm sure the threat could be dealt with easily enough.
Stealth Hunter
04-18-08, 11:28 PM
Actually these bikers are somewhat of a tradition in the Iranian military.
Apparently a successful (if somewhat suicidal) tactic of the IRGC in the 1980s war against Iraq was to attack Iraqui tanks with motocross bikes and RPGs.
Against T-55s this was apparently a good tactic.
I wonder what "real" weapons were shown. For example, were there any new aircraft prototypes. On youtube, I only saw the usual suspects, Phantoms, F-5s, MiG-29s and the last active Tomcats in the world....
Correct, Ant. Our military used them to spot and even sap tanks. They were actually very effective for scouting purposes.
Our military used them to spot and even sap tanks. They were actually very effective for scouting purposes.
If you look at them as akin to a hussar's horse - high mobility to get in and out, but maneuvre and fight on foot - then it makes some sort of sense. Even with an infantry screen, I would be worried about this sort of thing as a tanker. I'd want something more effective than an RPG, but the concept is interesting.
bradclark1
04-19-08, 08:22 AM
Well suicide attacks are nothing new in warfare Brad. However I seriously doubt that a bunch of idiots on motorcycles willing to die for Allah would be any more successful than the Kamakazis, Banzai charges or the human wave tactics used by the Red Chinese in Korea to name a few examples.
Don't get me wrong, like any other enemy tactic they would be something to prepare for but i'm sure the threat could be dealt with easily enough.
I'm not saying they are a super weapon but they could be pretty effective from an ambush. You don't have to teach them to barely fly and you're not going to have them on line for a human wave attack and they aren't going to be seen from 2 miles out on a flat desert. One kill per ten bikes would still be a win. Even a mobility kill would work. Used in depth would make anyone seriously nervous. Low tech doesn't mean they are an easy kill. Used effectively would cause the enemy ulcers and then there is the old axiom, underestimating the enemy will get you killed.
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