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SUBMAN1
04-15-08, 10:50 AM
Damn - I can't find the umbrella!

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Andrew's Mailbag It's been a fascinating week for climate reporting and the BBC. On Tuesday, an astonished Jeremy Paxman was heard asking Global Warming advocate Chris Rapley on Newsnight to confirm that the Earth's temperature hasn't risen this century.


(No, Rapley agreed, it hasn't. But clearly, from the amazed look on his face, nobody had ever thought to fill Paxo in on this minor detail - until now)....
Read on here - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/15/bbc_global_notwarming_mailbag/

SUBMAN1
04-15-08, 10:55 AM
Wow! Check this! Arctic Sea Ice is on the rise big time! 1 Million sq/km above average!

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http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.365.south.jpg

Konovalov
04-15-08, 11:02 AM
I'm no scientist but how can you be serious while using a graph of a WHOLE 12 months to support your argument? :-? To me you are simply cherry picking data to fit your claim.

SUBMAN1
04-15-08, 11:07 AM
I'm no scientist but how can you be serious while using a graph of a WHOLE 12 months to support your argument? :-? To me you are simply cherry picking data to fit your claim.I don't need to. It was down previous and this is known to everyone here, but it has rebounded. That is what I am pointing out.

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STEED
04-15-08, 11:34 AM
O'Brien "How many fingers am I holding up Winston?"
Winston "Four."
O'Brien "And if the party says five, how many fingers am I holding up?"


I don't believe all this rubbish any more, it's the gravy train people. What happens will happen or to put it another way sh*t happens. :D

Letum
04-15-08, 11:43 AM
Clearer graph set:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot.png
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/n_plot.html
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/s_plot.png
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/s_plot.html

SM's graph refers to the lower data set which shows a upward trend with both the
highest and lowest ice extents in the last 3 years. The trend match is poor.
The exception to this being the Antarctic Peninsula, in the Bellingshausen/Amundsen
and western Weddell seas where the ice is receding.

The top graph shows a steady decrease with a better trend match.

Why is the Antarctic growing, but the arctic shrinking?
The most obvious answer is that the Antarctic is surrounded by sea, witch is warming
and producing more snow to fall on the Antarctic, where as the amount of snow in
the Arctic is less influenced by sea temperature because there is less sea around it.
However, that is just informed speculation.

bookworm_020
04-15-08, 08:58 PM
I hope it's global wetting as I'm tired of having drought here in Australia!