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Antiacus
04-07-08, 07:09 PM
I was shelling a passenger/cargo with my aa gun (type iid) not too far from southend when i was attacked by an asw trawler. I was able to finish off the target before the trawler hit me. I immediately dove (i was only in 20m water) to 15m and made several course changes.

Within 20 minutes i was disabled on the bottom & 3 passes after that i was dead.

I didn't go to silent running until 10-12 minutes into it because i'd always heard they had no sonar...

Apparently that's not true. Bummed because i had just gotten my orders to Lorient where i was soon to get into my first type IX.

Now i have to start all over... Grrrr.

Graf Paper
04-07-08, 07:23 PM
Should have broken off from your target and made like a hole in the water as quickly as possible.

Many kaleuns make the mistake of not wanting to let a target get away, especially if they've already scored hits. :down:

You get greedy, you die. :dead:

Antiacus
04-07-08, 09:07 PM
Somehow i had it in my head they had no sonar... Not sure what i was thinking. Actually i think i was remembering a conversation about patrol boats..

Stupid.

Slang
04-07-08, 09:16 PM
There are 2 types of sonar.

Trawler probably has a hydrophone, but can't ping you for range.

But running in 20 meters of water without silent running. My grandpa could hear that:D

U-84
04-07-08, 10:34 PM
thanks for the heads up, i had always thought Armed trawlers weren't equipped with sonar...next time i won't take them as litely.

Madox58
04-07-08, 11:08 PM
Running in 20 meters of water without switching to silent running?
Surprised the ASW Trawler crew didn't laugh themselves to death!
:lol:
Heck they could hit you with rocks!
:rotfl:

Antiacus
04-07-08, 11:50 PM
Running in 20 meters of water without switching to silent running?
Surprised the ASW Trawler crew didn't laugh themselves to death!
:lol:
Heck they could hit you with rocks!
:rotfl:

Idiotic mental error. I thought they had no sonar so i figured it didn't matter. I was fond of that crew too.

FIREWALL
04-08-08, 12:05 AM
You get to live and learn unlike the real thing. :yep:

Steel_Tomb
04-08-08, 04:18 AM
Yeah, suicidal. Trawlers are evil they don't look like a threat but they can knock you out of the game quite easily. So damned small too its hard to hit them with a panic spread of fish. They take a hell of a beating too, a bit too much if I must be honest. I tackled one on the surface with my gun. I knocked about 20 shells into that powered bathtub and it still didn't go down. In RL the crew would have been shredded from all that shrapnel and it would be on fire, no such thing in SHIII of course so I got the instant death screen and that was that!

HunterICX
04-08-08, 04:23 AM
I've been sunken more often by a Flower then any bigger size Destroyer.

HunterICX

Hylarion
04-08-08, 04:40 AM
thanks for the heads up, i had always thought Armed trawlers weren't equipped with sonar...next time i won't take them as litely.

Yup, no sonar doesn't mean no hydrophone or acoustic equipment at all. They won't actively ping, but they will passively follow underwater sounds and track you.
My own rule of thumb: Whatever ASW ship around means silent running until DC's are dropped or ship is evaded.

Been there, done that :-?

2nd lesson learned the hard way: If they are not in position or equipped to harm you, they'll call their older brothers and cousins to kick your tin can if any are available around.

Better luck next time :D

papa_smurf
04-08-08, 12:45 PM
I too have had bad encounters with the ASW trawler, and now avoid them at all costs.

trongey
04-08-08, 01:40 PM
20m? Who needs sonar? They could just look down and see you.:rotfl:

Madox58
04-08-08, 04:29 PM
The problems with the ASW Trawlers takeing damage is fixed.
Not the patch mind you.
It's been totally reworked for 2.1
Still deadly as ever but you can take it out now without all
the sillyness.
:yep:

STEED
04-08-08, 04:33 PM
I've been sunken more often by a Flower then any bigger size Destroyer.

HunterICX


Now that I find funny. :lol:

Sorry I just do. ;)

Orion133
04-08-08, 04:47 PM
something similar happened to my friend tom, when trying to infiltrate scapa flow. His boat, U-46 (one under Gunther Prien's boat, which was what inspired him to make an attempt at the base), made it past the scottish air patrols and the destroyer screens and was only a few yards from the harbor, when a trawler depth charged him. He freaked out and dove, IN SHALLOW WATER! The nose of his boat hit the bottom and it began to flood. Another depth charge attack from the trawler would spell death for him.

U-84
04-08-08, 11:32 PM
one tactic i have used once or twice against trawlers is to let them pass me, surface when his back is to you and his main wep cannot train on you and man the deck gun as quick as possible and fire off a shell or two, and TRY to hit him in a vital area...if it takes too long and the trawler is now turned into a position to start lobing shells at you, say ur prayers. lol

magicsub
04-10-08, 06:43 AM
they dont have sonar

but they have hydrophone!!!:rock:

predavolk
04-10-08, 08:32 AM
Can't you outrun them on the surface? I thought they had a max speed of 15 kts? Good to know that patrol boats don't have even passive sonar. They're pesky little things, especially when they travel in groups!

I recently tried to shoot two trawlers, submerged, in heavy seas, but missed both. They were, surprisingly, the entirety of a Task Force! Was hoping for something a bit more substantial, but oh well. The Save Game Bug ate that part of the mission any how.

Hartmann
04-10-08, 05:49 PM
I managed to outrun a trawler with my Ix-b boat in calm waters at 19 knts ! but i was firing with 37 cm AA gun and deck gun to the enemy.

lessons learned:

Stay stealth in shallow waters, keep an eye in your Uzo for targets, and search lights at night.

Dive inmediatelly when you detect a danger and try to put some distance between you and they.

Run silent, until when the ashcans are over you, then make a sharp turn at flank speed and try to go to deeper waters.