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gimpy117
04-03-08, 09:35 PM
i already posted a reply on a thread i started but ill just start a new one...

alright well i just shot at a merchant to find my torpedo coming around and doing laps around my boat, she did about 5 or 6 and never went off (:roll: lucky me)

so has anybody else see one of these in game??

ekempey
04-03-08, 09:52 PM
Nope, not the first. I had one in mid '43 while infiltrating the anchorage at Truk. Just about every DD in the harbor started racing toward me as soon as I hit "All Back Emergency." Boy am I glad I manually check the torpedos on sonar that they are indeed running hot straight and normal. That shot would have probably finished off the Fuso I was attacking. :down: :p

p.s., I died anyways. (5 DD's + 65 ft water + 1 Sub = Death)

piersyf
04-04-08, 01:05 AM
Had one from a stern tube that was meant to head to port (where the target was) but turned to starboard (where I was in the way). In the same sub, following patrol attacked a merchant with all 4 forward tubes and both stern tubes and a follow up from the front with 4 deep runners (set at depths between 8ft and 4ft and all went underneath), one miss, one hit (dud) and one hit (boom). That sole hit was on magnetic fusing (the only fish that was) so no hole, but it did spring some plates and start a fire. It was armed (that 3 inch turret on the back) so wasn't game to do much shooting (I did a bit, but had to keep diving whenever it turned to present the sting in the tail). It took over 3 hours for the sucker to die. This job will get so much easier when the torpedoes work...

Rockin Robbins
04-04-08, 09:19 AM
while doing research with WernerSobe's Natural Sinking Mechanics Test Mission for the Dick O'Kane targeting technique. I was doing perverted things with the American TDC to try to bend it to my will when a torpedo left the tube, turned right and did a lap around the boat. I must have done something wrong.

So I tried a different setup and got another circle runner. This can't be a coincidence! Maybe there is something to always having to enter range with bearing. I cleared out all TDC settings and tried again. The attack screen showed the torpedo track going out on bearing zero.

I got a third circle runner, which sank me that time. While reloading the mission, I tried to figure out what I had done to cause three torpedoes to go so wrong.

Then suddenly they began to go where I sent them. I haven't had a circle runner now in two months.

oh--you don't find them, they find you!

CDR Resser
04-05-08, 03:05 PM
Had in game. Unfortunately was unable to avoid.:down:
It's funny how well the contact and magnetic exploders work so well when the torpedoes run circular. :nope:

Resectfully Submitted;
CDR Resser

ccruner13
04-05-08, 03:26 PM
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o49/borschwanger/SH4Img1-4-2007_51446_781.jpg

i dont remember the details but this was as you can tell very shallow and near death experience to be sure. i have gotten sunk by a circle runner too but i didnt get a picture of that one

groomsie
08-27-08, 10:58 AM
Had a medium split in very calm seas, mid-day, good weather, had a nice set up for stern shot at ~900 yards with zero gyro and sub all all-stop. Playing v1.5 with TMO and RSRD installed, 75% realism (auto targeting), August 1942.

Fired 2 torpedoes, first hit and started the target slowig and listing, waited for the second but no report. Hmmm, figured it maybe ran deep (after all, who could miss with a set-up like this?) and then I saw in my periscope what looked like a torpedo wake as I was setting up for a kill shot. Went to external camera to see it was a circle runner. Aaack! Bad feeling in a virtual world, I'm sure in RL it would make your blood run cold. Apparently because of the run out the circles were just behind my sub, so I just sat there until it ran out. By that time the target was DIW and listing heavily so I elected to finish her with deck gun. Glad I wasn't backing up when I shot that.

As an aside, might be a nice mod to add a report of "Torpedoes running straight and true" to confirm a normal launch and initial run; I know they made such a report in RL (I'd need to confirm verbage)--or maybe a report if you had a circle runner? Rare, but if truly happens tough to avoid even if you catch it right away...

Task Force
08-27-08, 11:01 AM
Yep. Had one that kept going over top of me thank god it didnt explode. Had a mishap in SH3 where it came back and hit me.:lol: I must have fired of my homeing torpedo accidently.;)

Doolittle81
08-27-08, 11:36 AM
My circle runner:


http://members.cox.net/doolittle80/suicide1.jpg


http://members.cox.net/doolittle80/Suicide2.jpg


http://members.cox.net/doolittle80/suicide3.jpg

groomsie
08-27-08, 12:14 PM
Nice photos though.

Sailor Steve
08-27-08, 01:25 PM
Circle runner: am i the first to find one??
The first one was reported about a week after the game was released, well over a year ago.

Webster
08-27-08, 04:57 PM
as with duds the random wild torpedo will go the wrong way or circle or even just go straight line from bow or stern. you will see them often but if your lucky its not too often.

Rockin Robbins
08-27-08, 05:00 PM
Actually Gimpy, you don't have to find circle runners. Most of the time they find you!:yep:

Ivan Putski
08-27-08, 05:17 PM
I`ve been fortunate, never had one myself, nice pics guys, Doolittle81, you can forget the ice cream maker, and start making salt water taffy. Puts:D

bookworm_020
08-28-08, 12:33 AM
Nice photos there Doolittle81.:up:

I have yet to fall victim to a circle runner, but there is always a first time (if not a last time!:dead:)

Task Force
08-28-08, 12:48 AM
Nice photos there Doolittle81.:up:

I have yet to fall victim to a circle runner, but there is always a first time (if not a last time!:dead:)

Youre lucky.:yep:

CRM114
08-28-08, 06:00 PM
Doolittle, are your photos with the stock SH4 damage model, or is that a mod? I was forced to surface by a trio of DDs in Truk once and got shot to hell by their guns, and my boat never took any visible damage.

Deepseahunter
08-28-08, 06:10 PM
I had alot of malfunctioning Torpedoes. But i never ever have seen a circle runner.

Seminole
08-28-08, 07:46 PM
When I tried the TMO Mod...the very first one I fired circled around...


I had fired a total of 4 and the last three ran straight...I had finished my surface business, so I had headed deep already.

Don't know what happened to the circling one....just lucky it didn't find me I guess. :yep:

Doolittle81
08-29-08, 01:04 PM
Doolittle, are your photos with the stock SH4 damage model, or is that a mod? I was forced to surface by a trio of DDs in Truk once and got shot to hell by their guns, and my boat never took any visible damage.

Those pics were taken of a circle runner using SH4 1.4, + a selection of ROW Mods (pre-Pacific Environment)+ RSRDC.

I'm 99% certain that I have seen visible damage on my sub with SH4 1.5 as well...though I've never experienced a circle runner with 1.5...but I don't have pictures.

EDIT: Actually, I just took two pics....SH4 1.5 with PE3 and RSRDC....hull damage from DD fire. I never see any deck or Conning tower damage though.

http://members.cox.net/doolittle80/Hull Damage 2.jpg


http://members.cox.net/doolittle80/Hull%20damage.jpg

SteamWake
08-29-08, 01:32 PM
Ive fired quite a few torpedoes in my time. Have yet to see one to circle on me.

Plenty of duds, premies, deep runners, none have circled (knock on wood).

Im wondering if maybe folks arent setting their gyros off at 45 degree angles somehow?

Seminole
08-29-08, 04:34 PM
Fair Point..but I kinda doubt it..

One way to rule it out ,maybe, is to find an auto targeting player who has experienced a circle runner.

How about it?...any player using auto targeting ever experienced a circle runner?

(are any players still using auto targeting?) (can a manual gyro change be input while using auto targeting?)

SteamWake
08-29-08, 05:54 PM
(are any players still using auto targeting?) (can a manual gyro change be input while using auto targeting?)

Yes they can, however Im not so sure folks using auto targiting would set them that far off. Still it could be done.

Maybe Ill do a test carrier with AT on and try some wacky stuf and see.

Rockin Robbins
08-29-08, 06:37 PM
Circle runner: am i the first to find one??
No, but you're the first submarine IT found! :damn:

SteamWake
08-29-08, 07:08 PM
Circle runner: am i the first to find one??
No, but you're the first submarine IT found! :damn:

and the last?

seaniam81
08-30-08, 02:42 AM
Nope I had one the other day in the yellow sea using a mk. 18 luckly it was a dud. I didn't even know it had circled on me