How smart are we at Subsim?

[silentrunner]

I rently took a IQ test, and I was quite disapointed. I only scored 133.:cry: looks like I am going to have to study harder.

http://www.free-iqtest.net/

[stabiz]

I got 140! (5-6 years ago, probably below 100 now)

[bookworm_020]

Well at least we don't get into flame war like they do in some forums:roll:. That has to show a level of intelligence!:yep:

[gdogghenrikson]

you should post a link
I took one 2 years ago and I got like 120

[Stealth Hunter]

The last time I took an IQ test was in 2001, and I had a score of 129 (which, as Stabiz said, has probably dropped a load by now).

[antikristuseke]

The last and only time iv taken an official IQ test was back in 05 and i scored 141.

[Ducimus]

Never took an IQ test, at least none that i can remember. However, as my biggest critic, i am compelled to say that I am as dumb as a box of rocks! :rotfl:

[PeriscopeDepth]

I've never taken one. My mommy says I'm smart though...

Should I start a seperate thread for SAT test scores (kidding, wouldn't do that)? Why does one take an official IQ test though? MENSA application?

PD

[d@rk51d3]

Tested at 136, but I'm also serving customers at the same time. Concentration is a little lacking.

[kiwi_2005]

Your IQ is 112


:rotfl::rotfl:

:88):88):88):88)

No excuse but i took guesses with the number questions.

[NeonSamurai]

That IQ test you linked is nonsense, just like all the other ones you find on the net (some more so then others)

[d@rk51d3]

That IQ test you linked is nonsense, just like all the other ones you find on the net (some more so then others)

Let me guess, 85 right.:p






Just teasing. I know what you mean.

[FIREWALL]

Ever notice that those Mensa Einstein guys always wear slipon shoes. :p

[d@rk51d3]

Ever notice that those Mensa Einstein guys always wear slipon shoes. :p

And name-tags. :lol:

[JoeCorrado]

Scored a 147 but that was a long, long, time ago. I don't feel nearly as smart now as I did then. Age has a way of doing that to you. :ping:

[silentrunner]

That IQ test you linked is nonsense, just like all the other ones you find on the net (some more so then others)
Yeah I know. It's still fun though.

[Torplexed]

Do they have negative IQ numbers?:oops:


http://neptoon.homestead.com/iq-test.gif

[antikristuseke]

Just did the linked test out of boredom, 152. Not bad for 5:30am when i woke up 20 hours ago.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1472/aikjuumu2.jpg

[Ducimus]

I think that website is a phish.

The email was enough of an alarm bell, let alone the rest of the info it wants.

[Syxx_Killer]

I think that website is a phish.

The email was enough of an alarm bell, let alone the rest of the info it wants.

Exactly. That's why I used my Hotmai address. I don't think you need to fill in the rest it wants. I got fed up with that only to find I got e-mailed my results anyway. My score was 135. I don't trust that site, though.

[silentrunner]

Yeah I only filled in email nothing else.

[bookworm_020]

Yeah I only filled in email nothing else.

Submitting your email drops you 20 IQ points!:lol:

[GlobalExplorer]

These tests are a joke if someone can do a 152. Normal tests max at 130 and then you have to take additional ones to find out the exact result above 130. Lets not forget while an IQ of 130 is actually extremely good, 150 is nothing short of genius.

I guess the point of these tests is to make people happy with the result so they can boast with it.

[Graf Paper]

Well, considering there's no standard for IQ tests, it's really a moot point anyways.

I once took one of the "big three" of IQ tests, the California one, if I recall correctly, but I can remember its exact name..Stanford-something...I think. This was 20 years ago, after all.

After three days and four tests, I was judged to have an IQ of 175.

Okay, so I understand a lot of what I read and can keep up with some pretty esoteric cosmological and metaphysical philosophies...

...but it ain't never put a dime in my pocket or made my life any easier, except for taking tests, and I absolutely abhor any math more complex than long division.

I'd argue that the true measure of high intelligence are the people who are smart enough to be happy with their lives, no matter how great or small.

[Platapus]

I still don't know how anyone can measure "intelligence"?

You can measure ability (problem solving, pattern recognition, associations) but that has little to do with intelligence.

Culture and various academic experiences still seem to play a large part in these "tests".

What you do with your intelligence is much more important than how "much" intelligence you have IMHO

[HunterICX]

*Read title*

you're kidding right :D :lol:

HunterICX

[Skybird]

That IQ test you linked is nonsense, just like all the other ones you find on the net (some more so then others)
Exactly. And of the "official" IQ tests scientist would conduct, or psychologists, it is not much different. As long as there are so many different understandings of what intelligence is, and IQ tests get constructed with this diversity of understanding, and different weighing of theoretical sub-constructs, IQ scores make little sense.

Or as Asimov put it: intelligence is what an IQ-test is measuring.

Better understand intelligence as a meta-label only that does not describe one quality in itself, but under which a whole range of qualities of varying complexity get summarized. and to the degree the mixture is varying, so does your understanding of intelligence, and so does what your test is measuring.

Which might essentialy mean there are different kinds of intelligence in theory as well.

[longam]

The best IQ test out there http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/lifestyle/ny-et5thgrade0227-quiz,0,879938.triviaquiz?coll=orl-dp-classifieds

[TDK1044]

I'm smart enough not to take the posted test. :D I took one about 15 years ago and scored 128.

[Subnuts]

My IQ was 148.

Then I read the "is Hillary mentally ill?" thread, and it went down to 146. Then I read the "women on nuclear submarines" thread, and it was down to 142.

Coincidence?

[CCIP]

yup, I don't believe it much either. Neither this test no IQ in general that is.

Mine used to be 146. I'm on painkiller medication now so it's probably about half that :lol:

[Sailor Steve]

I'd argue that the true measure of high intelligence are the people who are smart enough to be happy with their lives, no matter how great or small.
Which makes me one of the least intelligent people alive. I've observed that the happiest people seem to be smart enough to make of themselves what they want to be, or un-smart (I won't use any derogatory terms) enough to not know the difference. In either case, I've always envied both.

The best IQ test out there http://www.orlandosentinel.com/featu...dp-classifieds
I got 89%...missed two.

[AVGWarhawk]

My IQ results said I should be a Forest Ranger :D

[flakmonkey]

124:oops: :oops:

Yup i think im the dumbest one here, i`ll just get my dunce hat and sit quietly in the corner:88)

[CCIP]

I strongly disagree withthat idea. Many of the world's greatest people were profoundly miserable, virtually always for reasons beyond their control. In fact I find genius and unhappiness follow each other, often neccesarily.

[bradclark1]

They said I was off the scale but wouldn't say the high scale or the low scale.

[jumpy]

Which makes me one of the least intelligent people alive. I've observed that the happiest people seem to be smart enough to make of themselves what they want to be, or un-smart (I won't use any derogatory terms) enough to not know the difference. In either case, I've always envied both.

Agreed, either you have a super brain you can bend towards success in anything you choose to do, or you're as thick as two short planks so the mysteries and injustices of life are beyond your understanding.
I think many people fall in-between these two; they are self aware enough to be dissatisfied with their lot but give in to accepting that that's just the way life works. In a sense, the more self aware you become the more susceptible you are to the misery of your own situation and that of others around you, yet having no real influence to change this.
Like those with an unshakeable faith - for them life is not fraught with questions and trepidation - they (in effect) abdicate such fundamental questions to some higher belief system and in doing so free themselves from having to confront, on a daily basis, the questions we all ask but have no answers for.

Then again, I've always believed there are two kinds of intelligence: those with common sense and those without.
I consider both myself and my other half to be of above average intelligence. However, she is useless with anything practical, despite the letters after her name suggesting otherwise.
Academia does not necessarily lend itself to real world practicality. Let me give you an example: a couple of years ago she killed the engine on her motorbike (lack of oil and the thing seized solid) so a few months later with this in mind, she checked the oil level on her car and, finding it below the maximum mark (about half way), proceeded to glug a full bottle of oil into the car. It never occurred to her that practically filling the engine full to the top (of the rocker cover) was as bad as leaving the sump to run dry. :rotfl:
Unlike her, I never had the determination to complete university, preferring less noble pursuits than that of knowledge; the comparative level of our debt reflects this - she owes the student loans people and others almost 15k, whilst I owe my bank 5k.

Perhaps my most damning failure of my own admission, in retrospect, is not using my ability to its fullest extent. For as long as I've been aware, I've had no clear direction to focus my will, no goal or destination to achieve other than those required of daily living.
And here I come to the real separator in life; many people are smart and many people are not quite so, and whilst intelligence alone can take you a long ways off, the benefits in the long term of dedication, determination and a clear goal cannot be underestimated. Without the drive to motivate action, intelligence or the lack thereof has no focus and as a result achieves very little of its potential.

As ever with my school reports, so it is with much of my adult life: Could do better if he applied himself more. :down:

[StdDev]

IQ tests.. bah... dont believe in em.. just like Astrology.
Mainly because I'm a Taurus and were sceptical! :know:

[Skybird]

I consider both myself and my other half to be of above average intelligence.

Well, in the past weeks I repeatedly stumbled over German and international essays and articles saying that people of the Western civilisation seem to become more dumb, and their mind's ability getting lulled for reasons of modern lifystyle; and I read of an american intelligence reasearcher saying that he found the population's mean IQ to be falling, which leads him to conclude that our civilisation's intelligence developement is beyond it's climax and somewehre in in the second half of the 20th century has entered the phase of decline; I see pseudo-rationalism distoring logic and reason in the spreading of creatisonsim not only in america, but Eastern europe, Turkey and parts of the muslim world as well, as well as in the German Protestant's latest call that believing and scientific reasearch shall be equal to each other, but that belief may criticise and lead science, while science and reason shall have no word in criticising belief (so obviousy equality is when the one is more equal than the other); and I read of German schoolkids saying that Helmut Kohl was the last head of state of the GDR, and the Berlin wall being raised by america, while an american female author just released a book on the american population becomin dumber, and when being asked why she wrote it she described how she sat in a bar and two guys were talking , and the one said "This is like Pearl Harbour", and the other asked "What is Pearl Harbour?", and the first said "The vietnamese started to drop bombs in a harbour, and that is how the Vietnam war started" - it was then when she decided to write her book. :doh:

So, when you say "above average", you compare yourself to a standard, in this case the population'S mean IQ. and if that mean IQ is falling all by itself, and if you two can mange to keep your own, you will become brighter all by itself without needing to do anything about it!

Good deal, or what!? :D

[Tchocky]

I strongly disagree withthat idea. Many of the world's greatest people were profoundly miserable, virtually always for reasons beyond their control. In fact I find genius and unhappiness follow each other, often neccesarily.

Reminds me of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

IQ, the last proper test I remember was when I was 16, came out at 142. I think.
I know I was one less than my brother :)

[jumpy]

lol nice one Sky, :lol: I'd not thought of that, hehe.

I definitely agree with the principals set out by some of those researchers though - wallow in filth for long enough and you'll eventually end up smelling of ****.

All of this dumbing down with fashion, vanity and all of the other junk we get spoon-fed by the media these days is certainly driving us down from where we stand today. A friend of mine has a teenage daughter who's main interest in life seemed to be the emulation of facile and selfish celebrities, "yer, innit? 'cause like, iss wot gets yer respek an' stuff... like nuffink is sik wivout bling innit bruvah."

Makes me cringe to be honest.

In the mean time, the rest of us can sit back and let the and let the collective smarts disappear down the proverbial drain hole. After all, in the country of the blind even the one eyed man is king! :arrgh!:

[NeonSamurai]

Let me guess, 85 right.:p
Heh nope :)

But that test is still hopelessly useless, its way to short, wasn't timed, and would be wildly inaccurate. There is also much debate in psychology as to the validity of IQ tests for testing intelligence (for one thing its eurocentric, another is tends to test what you know more then how smart you are).

I can remember its exact name..Stanford-something...I think. that would be the stanford binet IQ test

Exactly. And of the "official" IQ tests scientist would conduct, or psychologists, it is not much different. As long as there are so many different understandings of what intelligence is, and IQ tests get constructed with this diversity of understanding, and different weighing of theoretical sub-constructs, IQ scores make little sense.

Actualy depending on the test there can be radical differences from that online one, even the standford binet IQ test which is the one that online test is based on, is still very different (much longer, multiple sections, sections are timed, other types of questions etc). Otherwise I agree with you :)


As for my IQ, well to be honest I don't know what it is. I did a whole whack of intelligence/ability testing as a child, but my mother always refused to tell me what scores I got other then it was very high. I would defiantly agree that very smart people tend to be unhappier then ""normal"" people, and that people that "suffer" from forms of mental retardation tend to be the happiest people of all from my experience. Guess you could chalk it up to the old expression "ignorance is bliss".

[Skybird]

Exactly. And of the "official" IQ tests scientist would conduct, or psychologists, it is not much different. As long as there are so many different understandings of what intelligence is, and IQ tests get constructed with this diversity of understanding, and different weighing of theoretical sub-constructs, IQ scores make little sense.

Actualy depending on the test there can be radical differences from that online one, even the standford binet IQ test which is the one that online test is based on, is still very different (much longer, multiple sections, sections are timed, other types of questions etc). Otherwise I agree with you :)



The huge differences you refer to can be seen with academic IQ tests as well. I did three such "official" tests at university, all three were different ones, becausue we gained points that we need to collect by participating in experiments in order to be allowed for exams. The tests' results varied by over 20 points, with number-heavy questions seeing me scoring the weakest, and three-dimensional things and abstract thinking questions scoring top. Considering that the usual IQ test results that you see in practice vary between let's say 95 and 120 (that online thing scores so many 130s, 140s and 150s that it is hilarious), a variance that high as 20 points is extremely much. However, i am no single case with that spread.

we all have different strengths and weaknesses. A single test alone does not say anything on these, and a single IQ value is as useful as answering the question for a safe code number sequence with a reply like "all numbers summed up: 457". The same problem you have with personality inventories. Since these base on even tighter theoretical constuctions, I wuld say the problem with these is even greater. but I admit I am not up to date concerning personality inventories developed over the past 10-15 years. That matter also never interested me much - too hypothetic and theoretic.

[GlobalExplorer]

I can remember its exact name..Stanford-something...I think. that would be the stanford binet IQ test

also sometimes called the stanford "bidet"

[NeonSamurai]

If the test is using the standard IQ measurement scale, then a 20 point variance is gigantic. Were they the same test type though (eg were they all stanford binet)? I also suspect that the tests you did were experimental (and failed) or not applied correctly as that variance should not happen.

I also agree that the results people are getting from that online test are really funny, especially when you factor most of the world is around the 100 mark (100 is dead center average) and only some where around 0.1% would be scoring near 140 (I forget the exact % but here is the curve if you want to see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IQ_curve.svg) that that online test is spitting out so many super high iq values completely proves my original point.

Personally I'm not a fan of the stanford binet test, though it may make for a decent representation of intelligence in the western educated world, it fails miserably with anyone not educated very well in the west.

Personality tests are another subject all together. I do think Eysenk's 2F test can be somewhat useful (though limiting as its only 2 factors, I don't think personality can be boiled down to a sum of 2 factors), the 5F OCEAN test seems reasonable as well in principle. I would however stand by the MMPI v2 (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory) test. That one has been proven time and time again as an effective diagnostic tool (for the western world anyhow). But as for the first 2 I mentioned, it is based to a great deal on theory.

[Tango589]

A friend of mine has a teenage daughter who's main interest in life seemed to be the emulation of facile and selfish celebrities, "yer, innit? 'cause like, iss wot gets yer respek an' stuff... like nuffink is sik wivout bling innit bruvah."


Any chance of a translaton for those of us who dont speak 'yoof' (PS I'm only 26 and this had me lost.:doh: )

[nikimcbee]

...If you give them your e-mail, congrats, you're now on their spam list.

:know:
nope.

[Jimbuna]

A friend of mine has a teenage daughter who's main interest in life seemed to be the emulation of facile and selfish celebrities, "yer, innit? 'cause like, iss wot gets yer respek an' stuff... like nuffink is sik wivout bling innit bruvah."


Any chance of a translaton for those of us who dont speak 'yoof' (PS I'm only 26 and this had me lost.:doh: )

LMAO....cushty http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7975/gigglebigtb9fg3.gif

[VipertheSniper]

Can anyone tell me why 64 is the right answer to question 17? It's the only one I got wrong apart from that counting four sided figures...

[Ducimus]

Im tellin ya, that site is a very well crafted phish. The test is the hook. You spend enough time on it, you want to see what your results are, so your more apt to say, "Gimme the results!" and it doesnt land the email requirement on you tell you complete the test - thereby setting the hook.

[antikristuseke]

I dont remember submiting my email adress, actualy i dont remember being asked that.

[Takeda Shingen]

I had taken an official test back in 2001, and my score came back at 168. Regardless, I agree with Sky in that IQ tests, even the legitimate ones, are inherently flawed and not a reliable indicator of intelligence. Your real intelligence flucuates daily based on a variety of chemical and environmental factors.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

A friend of mine has a teenage daughter who's main interest in life seemed to be the emulation of facile and selfish celebrities, "yer, innit? 'cause like, iss wot gets yer respek an' stuff... like nuffink is sik wivout bling innit bruvah."

Any chance of a translaton for those of us who dont speak 'yoof' (PS I'm only 26 and this had me lost.:doh: )

"Yes, quite so. Respect is gained from liking the correct celebrities. Furthermore, nothing is quite as satisfying to my self-image than a piece of budget jewelry, my friend."

[Trex]

Can anyone tell me why 64 is the right answer to question 17? It's the only one I got wrong apart from that counting four sided figures...
1 - 8 - 27 - ? - 125 - 216.

1 cubed = 1
2 cubed = 8
3 cubed = 27
4 cubed = ?
5 cubed = 125
etc

[jumpy]

A friend of mine has a teenage daughter who's main interest in life seemed to be the emulation of facile and selfish celebrities, "yer, innit? 'cause like, iss wot gets yer respek an' stuff... like nuffink is sik wivout bling innit bruvah."

Any chance of a translaton for those of us who dont speak 'yoof' (PS I'm only 26 and this had me lost.:doh: )
LMAO....cushty http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7975/gigglebigtb9fg3.gif
hehe 'cushty' now there's a word I've not used in regular parlance for ages... at the risk of sounding too rosy, at one time everything was 'cushty' :lol:

"How's it going?"
"Yer mate, it's cushty."

"How's the new job?"
"Cushty"

"Did you get your motor fixed?"
"Yup, it's sorted, it's packed.... it's cushty."

Aaah, happy days :cool:


As for the translation, one could read along the lines of: "Nothing is much good unless it's shiny, then everyone looks up to your success with adulation." or some such.

EDIT:
Curse you KP! now it's too late for my ninja-edit :rotfl: curse my cats too for distracting me from important internetz :doh: hehe.

[Skybird]

I had taken an official test back in 2001, and my score came back at 168.

One-Six-Eight in a regular and scientifically conducted academically developed and verified test? Are you member of Ultranet or Mega Society or any other High IQ Soceity? An IQ of 168 is extreme, roughly only 1 in 500.000 scores like that, or higher. IQ tests also do not allow such a score directly, but make such numerical statements by extrapolations only, and scores in that range and higher also are not statistically verified nor normated.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to minimize you, but such extreme scores in principle would raise my suspicion that either the test or the way it was conducted were not kosher. With a score of 168, statistically there would be only around let's say 700 people in the US that are in your range or higher, statistically.

[Zayphod]

I think that website is a phish.

Not necessarily a 'phish' but a way of obtaining e-mail addresses.
I didn't check their privacy statement, but when it asked for the
e-mail address, I dropped it like a bag of snakes (the site, not
the e-mail address).

EDIT: Yeah, this was the big turn-off right here on their privacy page:


1. What personal information does Free-IQTest collect from you and how is it used?

Free-IQTest may collect information in several ways from different parts of our Web site. Some personal information may be gathered when you register. During registration, Free-IQTest asks for your email address and certain other personal information. The more information you volunteer (and the more accurate it is), the better we are able to customize your experience. In addition to registration, we may ask you for personal information at other times, including, but not limited to, (a) when you enter a prize giveaway, test, sweepstakes, contest or promotion sponsored by Free-IQTest and/or our many partners, or (b) should the occasion arise, if and when you make a purchase using Free-IQTest. If you contact Free-IQTest, we may keep a record of that correspondence. Free-IQTest also occasionally asks users to complete surveys that we use for internal research. Wherever Free-IQTest collects personal information we make an effort to include a link to this Privacy Policy on that page.

Free-IQTest's primary goal in collecting personal information is to provide you with a customized experience on our Web site. This includes personalized services, interactive communications, possibly even online shopping, and many other types of services. In order to provide services free of charge, we display advertisements. By knowing a little about you, Free-IQTest is able to deliver more relevant advertisements, content and better service to you. Free-IQTest does internal research on our users= demographics, interests, and behavior based on the information provided to us upon registration, during a promotion, or from our server log files. We do this to better understand and serve our users. This research is compiled and analyzed on an aggregated basis.
Expect the spam to start shortly. Only it's not spam - you requested it.

[sonar732]

As soon as they wanted my name and other info...I closed the window.

[deamyont]

No offence but if you do beilive that intelligence is something that can be measured at a scale at all, you are not "smart".

Binet himself ment that IQ-test where not for measuring and comparing normal people, and not in this way, as they don't say anything to anyone with an IQ over 100 or so, but still we have them here today and misuse them in a scale not imaginable.

The eastern cultures which define intelligence in a completely different way from the "western intelligence" laugh at us while we do this of course. And they should.

Anyone else studied pedagogy at university here by the way?

[Takeda Shingen]

I had taken an official test back in 2001, and my score came back at 168.

One-Six-Eight in a regular and scientifically conducted academically developed and verified test? Are you member of Ultranet or Mega Society or any other High IQ Soceity? An IQ of 168 is extreme, roughly only 1 in 500.000 scores like that, or higher. IQ tests also do not allow such a score directly, but make such numerical statements by extrapolations only, and scores in that range and higher also are not statistically verified nor normated.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to minimize you, but such extreme scores in principle would raise my suspicion that either the test or the way it was conducted were not kosher. With a score of 168, statistically there would be only around let's say 700 people in the US that are in your range or higher, statistically.

I'm very aware of the statistics, and again state that I put very little stock in the Intelligence Quotient. Never once would I claim to be abnormally intelligent, which is what I was attempting to illustrate. Also, no, I don't belong to a society. Such a high number, as you stated, is little more than extrapolation, and is further proof of the folly of tying intelligence to an arbitrary number.

[Trex]

As soon as they wanted my name and other info...I closed the window. Well, if they try to correlate my email address to "Mrs M Mouse", born 31 Feb 1928, more joy to them. Any email from them goes to the junk pile anyway.

Interesting that the site only seems to give above-average results, isn't it?

[STEED]

IQ tests are BS it's life experiences that counts not some smart arse test. :p

[Jimbuna]

IQ tests are BS it's life experiences that counts not some smart arse test. :p


In your case......I fully concur :lol:

:rotfl:

[Surfrider]

I've made that test ,even that my native language is't English.And the score was an 109
http://www.free-iqtest.net/score.asp