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GSpector
04-01-08, 03:30 PM
Just a thought, and I've asked before but never got an answer in the past.
IF we end up with a female President (someday), since the wife of a Male President is called the First Lady, will the husband of a Female President be called First Lord. Assuming we continue with British titles. :hmm:
I personally will not be voting for the Clinton's this elections and I really would not like to think of Bill Clinton as our "First Lord". That just does not sound right, in any book.:nope:
AVGWarhawk
04-01-08, 03:31 PM
First man.
Ducimus
04-01-08, 04:10 PM
Henpecked...
P... errrr nevermind..... .. whipped.
GSpector
04-01-08, 04:28 PM
All very good and expected, but what would "His" Official title be?
kiwi_2005
04-01-08, 04:40 PM
What AVG said - bound to be 'First man'. Not lord you guys dont have the Royalty theme so why would you call 'First Lord.'
Dose that mean we can slip on some silk knickers. :rolleyes:
Cough, cough...................
Excuse me I've just seen a thread I need to post on. :roll:
That was a close shave.........:shifty: :lol:
Platapus
04-01-08, 04:53 PM
well since a female would be called the First Lady, I would imagine a male would be called the First Gentleman.
I am sure that protocol people are working on this very topic.. just in case.
GSpector
04-01-08, 06:28 PM
What AVG said - bound to be 'First man'. Not lord you guys dont have the Royalty theme so why would you call 'First Lord.'
We may not have Royalty here but some of the terms and traditions (even in the Military) we use were carried over and I do believe the title "Lady" was one of those terms and if so, then it only stands to reason that "Lord" could be used though I don't think it would sit well with many here.
It will be interesting to see what title is created.:hmm:
AVGWarhawk
04-01-08, 06:29 PM
well since a female would be called the First Lady, I would imagine a male would be called the First Gentleman.
I am sure that protocol people are working on this very topic.. just in case.
This is probably the best bet:up:
MothBalls
04-01-08, 06:43 PM
Won''t really matter. She only needs him for the election so they can appear to be a normal family.
If she does get elected, in the time between the election and the inauguration she's going to drop him quicker than all of her campaign promises combined.
She'll probably divorce him then sign an executive order to have him deported and sent to Gitmo. She'll have him put in a cell across from Monica.
bookworm_020
04-01-08, 07:43 PM
well since a female would be called the First Lady, I would imagine a male would be called the First Gentleman.
I am sure that protocol people are working on this very topic.. just in case.
I beleive that is correct, but it isn't that suited to bill......:down:
Kapitan_Phillips
04-01-08, 07:53 PM
Dose that mean we can slip on some silk knickers. :rolleyes:
Cough, cough...................
Excuse me I've just seen a thread I need to post on. :roll:
That was a close shave.........:shifty: :lol:
STEED, seriously, sometimes I wonder if your posts even contain a molecule of sense :lol:
Ducimus
04-01-08, 08:05 PM
On a serious note, i doubt that "First Lord" will EVER be a name used in the US..... EVER.
For one, the bible thumping crowd woudln't have that. LORD (yes, with captials), is reserved ..for.. well....
Secondly, I think our culture woudlnt tolerate it. In a country where "rugged indivdiualism" is the norm, nobody likes any title that sounds like an overlord.
Thirdly, if one looks at our countries earliest history, one will find it is decidely anti monarchy! (yet go figure peoples fascination with the "royals" out.. whooopity do).
Actually in Clintons case they'll probably call him what they call all past presidents :"Mr. President"
Ducimus
04-01-08, 08:19 PM
Mr and Mrs President.
That would be a first. Cant say i like the sound of it either.
Captain Vlad
04-01-08, 08:25 PM
If she does get elected, in the time between the election and the inauguration she's going to drop him quicker than all of her campaign promises combined.
Doubtful. Whether it's for practical or personal reasons, the two seem welded together. If she didn't divorce him during his governorship, she won't do it now.
Monica was not a surprise to anyone from Arkansas, I assure you.:D
Monica Lewinsky
04-01-08, 09:59 PM
I Figured if the Democrats keep fighting:
Say hello to Miss President, here:
http://learnabit.homeserver.com/lab/miss-m.jpg
em2nought
04-01-08, 10:06 PM
In a country where "rugged indivdiualism" is the norm, nobody likes any title that sounds like an overlord.
Oh please, this election is going to show a country that values "cradle to grave" gov't assistance instead of "rugged individualism". :damn:
"First in line at the buffet table" is what would suite Bill best. Assuming Al isn't attending. :D
Platapus
04-02-08, 05:22 AM
Actually in Clintons case they'll probably call him what they call all past presidents :"Mr. President"
That would also be correct. It is customary to call ex presidents "Mr. President" just as if they were currently in office.
With HRC as President this might give the protocol people some problems.
How would you introduce them?
Madam President and Mr. President?:nope:
I bet the protocol people are working on this. I don't think that a husband and wife have ever separately been leader of a country while the other was a live. If I recall correctly the Aquinos are the closest we had but he was dead when she was elected.
Has there ever been a country where a husband and wife were separately elected to the highest office?
Sailor Steve
04-02-08, 08:38 AM
In general (meaning not speaking of the Clintons) 'First Gentleman' makes more sense, since 'First Lady' refers to the female counterpart of a gentleman, not a lord. But, there is a problem with that - it's merely protocol. There is no 'official' title. The president's wife was originally called just that. 'First Lady' was allegedly first used by president Zachary Taylor in 1949, when he gave the eulogy at Dolley Madison's funeral.
As for what Bill would be called if Hillary were elected, I don't know.
On a side-note, a mistype by me made me wonder: how come when people want to knock her they always stretch to use bizarre names like 'Hitlery' when without even trying I can accidentally come up with...'Hellary'?
TDK1044
04-02-08, 08:41 AM
'Liar Liar Pants On Fire' and 'Slick Willy'. :D
Thankfully, it's almost impossible for her to win the nomination.
What did the Brits call Margret Thatchers husband?
TDK1044
04-02-08, 09:34 AM
What did the Brits call Margret Thatchers husband?
Dennis. :D
In general (meaning not speaking of the Clintons) 'First Gentleman' makes more sense, since 'First Lady' refers to the female counterpart of a gentleman, not a lord. But, there is a problem with that - it's merely protocol. There is no 'official' title. The president's wife was originally called just that. 'First Lady' was allegedly first used by president Zachary Taylor in 1949, when he gave the eulogy at Dolley Madison's funeral.
Wow what a life Dolly must've had. From the American revolution to the dawn of the nuclear age! :p
@TDK1044: :roll::lol:
KeptinCranky
04-02-08, 06:05 PM
Actually in Clintons case they'll probably call him what they call all past presidents :"Mr. President"
That would also be correct. It is customary to call ex presidents "Mr. President" just as if they were currently in office.
With HRC as President this might give the protocol people some problems.
How would you introduce them?
Madam President and Mr. President?:nope:
I bet the protocol people are working on this. I don't think that a husband and wife have ever separately been leader of a country while the other was a live. If I recall correctly the Aquinos are the closest we had but he was dead when she was elected.
Has there ever been a country where a husband and wife were separately elected to the highest office?
I believe Mrs. Kirchner, the current Argentinian President has succeeded her husbands sucessor, and her husband is still alive afaik... so it does seem to happen
would probably be Madam President and Bubba if Hillary wins though :D
Monica Lewinsky
04-02-08, 06:29 PM
This is what scares me. It was taken by a rogue Homeland Security Camera a few months ago at the Senate building.
Disgusting ....
WARNING-WARNING-WARNING:
Don't click that if you are easily offended:
http://learnabit.homeserver.com/lab/Hillary.jpg
I told you not to do it. You were properly forwarned.
Given the baggage those two are carrying around, I would not be surprised if, within 37 nanoseconds of her election being confirmed, his title was "Who?"
NEON DEON
04-02-08, 07:05 PM
What did the Brits call Margret Thatchers husband?
Celibate!:D
I believe Mrs. Kirchner, the current Argentinian President has succeeded her husbands sucessor, and her husband is still alive afaik... so it does seem to happen
That's twice for Argentina,. Juan Peron was (eventually) succeeded by his third wife, Isabel. Mind you, his election is considered by some to be as about as valid as Kim Jong Il's.
Etienne
04-02-08, 08:29 PM
Personnally, I don't see the point. You don't care who your plumber's wife / husband is, and really, why would you?
Unless their spouse is creating a conflict of interest, I really don't see why anyone cares.
According to Wikipedia, it's "First Gentleman". I don't understand why there's even such an "Office"; it's meaningless BS...
But then, Canada has a governor general.
There is the big difference between reality and theory. The President's spouse, I believe, has no official role but does have a publicly-funded staff.
As to the GG, many countries have a separation between the head of state and those actually ruling.
GSpector
04-02-08, 10:38 PM
Of course, I think Hillary Clinton is McCains best chance to win the Election.
I'm sure McCain would not want to compete against Obama.:roll:
Etienne
04-03-08, 12:41 AM
As to the GG, many countries have a separation between the head of state and those actually ruling.
Yes, but in those country, the ruler actually does something. The GG... Holds receptions and gives out medals. When you add in spending accounts, the maintenance for the residences, (One in Ottawa, one in Quebec), the official travels... Pretty expensive for a MC, really.
And it's not like she'd ever do anything except what the PM'd tell her, anyway...
nikimcbee
04-03-08, 01:59 AM
I suppose I'll worry about it when it happens. I'm more worried about the concept. I want them (a female president) to be elected for their ideas and ability to lead/inspire the country, not just because she is a female.
The current choice won't fly because:
1. Too Marxist for US
2. Too much baggage
3. I can't imagine her holding the launch keys:o .
Herr_Pete
04-03-08, 02:18 AM
the First Idiot anyone?
Platapus
04-03-08, 05:25 AM
the First Idiot anyone?
Already taken I am afraid.
Some where in Texas, there is at least one town missing their idiot.
What did the Brits call Margret Thatchers husband?
Mr Dennis Thatcher. There is no role in government or the British constitution for the partner of a British Prime Minister. With the exception of Cherrie Blair, wives and husbands of British Prime Ministers tend to get on with their careers.
Tchocky
04-03-08, 11:15 AM
What did the Brits call Margret Thatchers husband?
"Closing Time", I think :p
Apparently Margaret Thatcher husband jokes are popular in JOE.
Zayphod
04-03-08, 01:51 PM
well since a female would be called the First Lady, I would imagine a male would be called the First Gentleman.
I am sure that protocol people are working on this very topic.. just in case.
Disagree. I think it needs to be updated.
First Dude. ;)
Sailor Steve
04-03-08, 02:04 PM
Put Bill in a kilt, and call him 'First Laddy'.
Sailor Steve
04-03-08, 02:06 PM
In general (meaning not speaking of the Clintons) 'First Gentleman' makes more sense, since 'First Lady' refers to the female counterpart of a gentleman, not a lord. But, there is a problem with that - it's merely protocol. There is no 'official' title. The president's wife was originally called just that. 'First Lady' was allegedly first used by president Zachary Taylor in 1949, when he gave the eulogy at Dolley Madison's funeral.
Wow what a life Dolly must've had. From the American revolution to the dawn of the nuclear age! :p
@TDK1044: :roll::lol:
Good catch!:rotfl:
Side-note: Laura Ingalls Wilder, author of the original 'Little House' books, really did that. Born in 1867, she died at 90 in 1957.
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