Which Century are We living in?

[Hakahura]

What is wrong with these people?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3597851.ece

What century do they think we are living in?
The Catholic Church is thankfully a minority group in the UK.
The Church and state are supossed to be separate.
Who do they think they are to try and force their beliefs on society?
Do they what to start persecuting scientists again like they did with Galileo?
These people drive me mad!
Trying to hold back research that might save lives.
One area of science where Britain excels is genetics, but these nutters what to stop that.

[Jimbuna]

Politics and religion.....the source of most conflict http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7118/nofemaleqj9xl4.gif

[Steel_Tomb]

I would reduce that just down to religion. Too much of a problem, shame you can't ban it. Amazes me that after thousands of years of evolution people are so easily swayed to some almighty god/deity, in a time where science is all around us its even more amazing. It p***es me off even more when religion is used as an excuse to commit mass murder, "I didn't do it, god told me to, its in this book you see... got to do every thing by this book or we are bad bad people" :damn: :damn: :damn:

If people wish to preach or believe in religion then fine, thats up to them. When its used as an excuse to commit inexcusable offenses, ridiculous.

[bradclark1]

God might expand on the seven deadly sins to bring it up to modern times. These guys have a private line to the main man.
In the 21st century, he said, "You offend God not only by stealing, blaspheming or coveting your neighbor's wife, but also by ruining the environment, carrying out morally debatable scientific experiments, or allowing genetic manipulations which alter DNA or compromise embryos."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/03/13/new.sins/index.html?iref=newssearch

[Platapus]

I often feel that the world would be better if all organized religion were to be banned and everyone concentrated on their personal spiritual relationships as they felt appropriate.

[DeepIron]

I often feel that the world would be better if all organized religion were to be banned and everyone concentrated on their personal spiritual relationships as they felt appropriate.

Amen! ;)

[antikristuseke]

I often feel that the world would be better if all organized religion were to be banned and everyone concentrated on their personal spiritual relationships as they felt appropriate.

Agreed whole heartedly.

[Blacklight]

Unfortunately, they are blind to the fact that they are forcing their beliefs on others. They have a mentality that they know "The Truth" and they argue "If I was injured, wouldn't you fight like hell to save me ?" or "If I'm doing something that's bad for me, wouldn't you fight like hell to get me to stop ?"

Also unfortunately, their "Truth" has no basis in modern science which is testable, reproduceable, and not relient on faith alone.

We're supposed to have a total separation of Church and State here but we have "In God We Trust" on our dollar bills, and we're "One nation under God" in our Pledge of Aliegence. :nope:

[Sailor Steve]

We're supposed to have a total separation of Church and State here but we have "In God We Trust" on our dollar bills, and we're "One nation under God" in our Pledge of Aliegence. :nope:
A lot of people use those two facts to argue that America has always been a religious country, but they don't realize that both of them were not put there by the founders, but by a much later generation.

[Platapus]

We're supposed to have a total separation of Church and State here but we have "In God We Trust" on our dollar bills, and we're "One nation under God" in our Pledge of Aliegence. :nope:
A lot of people use those two facts to argue that America has always been a religious country, but they don't realize that both of them were not put there by the founders, but by a much later generation.


In god we trust first appeared on specific coins in the mid 1800's. However it did not become required on all coins and bills until the 1950's about the same time our pledge of allegiance was changed for political reasons.

It appeared that these changes in the 1950s were necessary in the fight against the dreaded communists.

It was a well understood fact that a communist could not touch money with "in god we trust". Therefore this was an excellently planned strategic plan to deprive both foreign and domestic communists from being able to make telephones from pay phones and to buy candy bars. Both of which were critical for the communists plan to subvert the United States.

Citizens were warned to be on the look out for anyone suspicious who was dropping money as this would be a significant indicator that they were a dreaded communist. Do not be fooled by the communist mind. Sometimes they would conceal their money dropping by pretending to donate money to charities or poor people. Anyone being observed dropping money into charity boxes or financially supporting social programs to help the poor would be suspect of being a dreaded communist.

It was unknown whether wearing gloves would protect the dreaded communist from the "in god we trust". To be on the safe side, all loyal Americans stopped wearing gloves. This is why in woman's fashions, it became unfashionable for women to wear gloves after the 1950s.

Doubtless, these four words saved the United States from unspeakable horrors.

[nikimcbee]

Politics and religion.....the source of most conflict http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7118/nofemaleqj9xl4.gif

huh, I thought it was alcohol and football.

... women and money?

[nikimcbee]

I often feel that the world would be better if all organized religion were to be banned and everyone concentrated on their personal spiritual relationships as they felt appropriate.

...but who will want access to my wallet?;)


I mean other than Jimbuna, steed, and subman1 looking for booze money.

[Penelope_Grey]

Ban religion? Um... no. There is far more to our existence than science can prove. However these people who commit attrocities in the name of religion do so for themselves not for any other reason, they are just using religion as an excuse. Which is wrong.

If that research can help save lives, then no church has a right to stand in the way.

[Tchocky]

Platapus :lol:

[mrbeast]

Platapus :lol:

:rotfl:

Those god dam, money dropping, commie bastards!

[Trex]

Whether or not you agree with his stand, I would make one point to those arguing that the Church has no right to interfere get involved with such matters. At the most elemental level, one of the major aims and functions of all churches is to teach and guide the people a state of morality. (That their track record in this area is spotty is immaterial; that's the goal.) If churches cannot speak to what they see is a moral wrong, who can? Politicians? Give me a break - they're spending too much time picking our pockets and buttoning their flies. The media? Don't make me laugh - profit drives them more than morality.

Even in a democratic society, with complete separation of church and state, the church still offers a useful function as a moral flywheel. Politicians spend a lot of time looking at the pragmatic. (And we need to be most grateful for pragmatic politicians as opposed to dreamy ones.) There is still a need for an independent critic on the sidelines saying, when appropriate, "But this is wrong!"

It is when religion crosses over the line from criticizing and critiquing to actually ruling as a theocracy that we need to start worrying.

As to the separation of state and church, it's interesting to note that Cardinal O'Brien is in a nation in which the heads of state and church are formally, legally one and the same. Not even Iran goes that far, I think.

[Tchocky]

Mm, the Catholic Church released a list of mortal sins for our times, "causing poverty" was one of them.
I think satire is dead, it can no longer keep up with reality :p

Still on abstinence-only sex ed for the third world, eh Ratzinger?

[Hakahura]

Yeah they released their new list of "Mortal Sins For Our Time"

Why wasn't Interferring with Choirboys on that list?

[Jimbuna]

Yeah they released their new list of "Mortal Sins For Our Time"

Why wasn't Interferring with Choirboys on that list?

LOL :rotfl:

[August]

Lotsa people here seem to think it's ok to gag religious people but would scream bloody murder if anyone even suggested that they shut up as well...