Actual Attack Recording!

[Fish40]

Don't know how many heard this, but here's an actual sound recording of the attack on the BB Kongo by the Sealion. The recording is alittle difficult too make out at times, but there's no mistake as too what's takeing place. A narrator (not from the sub itself) helps explain what's going on. http://hnsa.org/sound/#sealion

[letterboy1]

Despite the bad quality of the recording, it was incredible to hear it and think that it was the real thing. You could even make out some of the torpedo hits. Really interesting. Thanks for this link.:up:

[LukeFF]

It's the only known audio recording of a submarine attack during WWII, so it's very unique.

[Fish40]

It's the only known audio recording of a submarine attack during WWII, so it's very unique.


I didn't know that Luke. After listening to that recording, I had to play the provided Sealion mission dealing with that event in the game. Too bad for me the events unfolded differently. I was detected by the DDs', and depthcharged into submission. During the real attack, the escorts were oblivious to the presense of the sub, and even so much as depthcharged the totally wrong area!

[AlmightyTallest]

Amazing, Overcast night, no moon, visibility 1500 yards... Thank you for posting this, it's very interesting to hear the crew interaction and actual attack on a capital ship.

On tape two when the torpedoes are being launched, did the crew mention a 3 minute reload time???

I also notice no Hollywood style panic or apprehension, only a cold calculating focus on the task at hand, simply true professionals.

Also enjoyed hearing the crew mention this line.

"Three torpedoes into the Jap BB... That'll put her in drydock for awile" *Sounds of crew laughing at the remark*

Also hearing the intercepted morse code from the Japanese ships most likely sending out warnings of the attack is very interesting.


Is there any way we might be able to incorporate aspects of these sounds into our simulation?

[ATR-42]

There was a media member on the USS barb, for i think its last patrol with Captain Eugene Fluckey. He wrote about them running the movie reel during parts of the patrol.

wonder what ever happened to that.... :hmm:

[LukeFF]

Also enjoyed hearing the crew mention this line.

"Three torpedoes into the Jap BB... That'll put her in drydock for awile" *Sounds of crew laughing at the remark*
One of the things the crew of Sealion didn't know at the time was the one of the torpedoes that missed Kongo hit and literally obliterated one of the escorting destroyers (Urakaze). It's now said (according to Wikipedia) that two torpedoes hit Kongo and the third hit that destroyer.

Also, the sinking of Kongo was the only instance of a Japanese BB being sunk by a submarine during the war.

[Doolittle81]

Here's the Silent Service TV episode about the Sealion and Kongo:

http://files.filefront.com/SilentServiceSeaLionFinalVwmv/;9455325;/fileinfo.html

[Paajtor]

Is there any way we might be able to incorporate aspects of these sounds into our simulation? Good question.
But should we really?
A real recording, they're killing each other.

With all respect, but I want to keep a bit more distance.;)
My opinion, of course.

[AlmightyTallest]

I guess I wrote that wrong, what I meant was the more subdued atmosphere considering the circumstances, I didn't mean to use the recording itself.

[Fish40]

Did anyone listen to the next set of recordings following the Kongo? It's an attack on a tanker, also by the Sealion I presume. The quality is better than that of the Kongo, and the torpedo impacts can clearly be heard. Following the impacts, the Officer on the bridge I believe exclaims at the ferocity of the explosion, and even uses a few choice words:yep: as he remarks on the burning ship!

[SteveHump]

I merged the intro and 4 files of the recordings related to the sinking of the Kongo BB by Sealion from the Historic Ships website and improved the clarity with an audio forensic program. It is more understandable, but there are still some rough spots. The file is:

"http://files.filefront.com/SealionKongoMergedIntro121mp3/;9854470;/fileinfo.html"

Not for commercial use, please.

[Blood_splat]

There was a media member on the USS barb, for i think its last patrol with Captain Eugene Fluckey. He wrote about them running the movie reel during parts of the patrol.

wonder what ever happened to that.... :hmm:
Yeah I wonder about that too.

[Gino]

There was a media member on the USS barb, for i think its last patrol with Captain Eugene Fluckey. He wrote about them running the movie reel during parts of the patrol.

wonder what ever happened to that.... :hmm:
Yeah I wonder about that too.

Don't wonder too long...

It's probably somewhere in the National Archive. At the end of WW2, when the high brass figured out it would be good to see the Silent Service in action, they decided to send cameramen with some of the boats. These cameramen were actually qualified submariners that had been trained to use the camera.

After the war, when nobody was interested in these movies (they had won anyway) the films were dumped in an archive. Some time later the films were put in a bigger archive, but first (to save space) the filmspools were made into one big film per boat. However, some spools got mixed up. So the movie of Cod actually has a spool from Redfin in it...
Anyway, after the Navy found them again in this archive, they were 'donated' to the National Archive. Otherwise they would have ended up in the dumpster.

USS Cod's patrol movie was found by pure chance in 1994. The curator didn't even know it existed. It's in pretty good shape, for its age.

So I suggest that, if you want to see these movies, you go to the National Archive in Annapolis.

Oh, by the way, they have just reworked their catalog system. Now virtually every film is hidden in the archive...:down:

It takes Sherlock Holmes to find it back...

groetjes,

[Ducimus]

Here's the Silent Service TV episode about the Sealion and Kongo:

http://files.filefront.com/SilentServiceSeaLionFinalVwmv/;9455325;/fileinfo.html


Is that old TV series available on DVD anywhere? :D

[Doolittle81]

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Is that old TV series available on DVD anywhere? :D

Yes...sorta...
John Clear of usssealion.com has 18 episodes available. 70+ were produced in the series run.
http://www.usssealion.com/sealion/silent_service_tapes1.htm

Unfortunately, rights are still up in the air for the complete original series. So it may be awhile before we ever see this series on the DVD market. :damn:

Each of John Clear' DVDs contain 3 TV episodes (about 25 minutes each) and the cost(Donation to his sub 'museum'/'website') is $20 per DVD (somewhat discounted with multi-DVD orders).


Here are two more episodes:

The Archerfish Spits Straight (http://%22http//files.filefront.com/ArcherSmallFilewmv/;9601616;/fileinfo.html)


Two Davids and a Goliath (http://files.filefront.com/Davids+and+Gwmv/;9486872;/fileinfo.html)


I'll post another episode soon.