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Freiwillige
03-17-08, 04:42 AM
I was near the sub base above scapa flow when I was forced under by some nosy escort. I went silent and he passed but as soon as I surfaced I was 300 meters from another one that came in undetected! To late to dive again before he spotted me I made a break for it and took a few light hits as I dived again beneith the waves.
He closed quickly and laid a salvo of DC's that I thought would be my end but, He laid them to deep and I was only forced to the surface from their detonations. Well again i took light hits while my sub resettled to Pariscope depth.

I tried all the tricks but with only 14 meters below me at periscope depth i had few options. I went as low as i could, I used bursts of speed after each pass to try and get some distance to no avail. His sonar would find me every time. Finally he straddled my boat and did some heavy damage. So I took her off silent running and had a repair team hitting the problem at full force while I bought a little time by using flank speed to distance myself before his next run. I noticed that every run he was dropping his cans to go off a little deeper than I was so, I after I repaired I went shallow. Just then I noticed another destroyer showed up to the party!

I figured at Periscope depth I could blow ballast and save the crew if nothing else.
Then something odd happened. Even know he was at fairly close range and coming at my port side almost 90 degrees he lost me and began to circle looking for me. He went right over my port bow just missing the conning tower and he never dropped a can.
slipping away at two knots many times he was so close he passed right over my stern but he didnt dop any cans! He was pinging like mad but never picked up my scent. Both destroyer circled wildly looking for their easy kill dropping randomly as I just gave up evading and headed due east w/ silent running. i sliped away easily to 1,500 meters than sat for 9 hours until it was dark enough to surface and run for it. In the end I made it and the point is no matter what depth I was at or what angle that destroyer always pinged me and did a run.
But as soon as I was near the surface he went blind. That matches w/ what many U-boat capitans claimed to have done to avoid ASDIC. Also note that the seas were very rough during this and I doubt it would have worked as well in nice weather.

Gezoes
03-17-08, 06:50 AM
Many boats would have scuttled by then! Well done! :up:

Brag
03-17-08, 07:14 AM
Congratulations! I doubt that I would have survived that one. :up:

msalama
03-17-08, 08:25 AM
I had a somewhat similar experience yesterday. Ended a bit different though :lol:

Enter my second-latest pseudonym, KptLtn. Markus Von Blixt - a salty, brave and sour geezer from Tientsin, China with some 60kts sunk already. Well, we had just received an order to patrol a grid some 500kms west of Vigo, and our intention was of course to sink as many of the fat beauties sailing in convoys towards Gibraltar as possible. And why the devil not: the boat was freshly overhauled, the crew rested - or, at least, still breathing, having spent the best part of their shore leave in assorted dives and bordellos around Wilhelmshaven :arrgh!: - and we were all raring to go and pwnZ0r some Engländer shipping, massively hangoverish or not!

So, being the real men that we were (yes, WERE, as it turns out) we of course chose the most direct southbound route. And yes, ladies and gents, as you know that route goes through the English Channel - this God-forsaken, pitiful, diseased, murky, muddy, oily and shallow excuse of a waterway swarming with all kinds of troublesome Navy-grey tincans and whatnot!

But none-the-less, off on our merry way we went! All went well first and we even managed to slip through the Dover Strait unnoticed, but then all of a sudden there was this destroyer approaching out of nowhere while we were submerged already and running silent at 30ms, having just evaded his mate literally seconds ago! Well, the bugger started pinging of course and found us straightaway, and then as those pesky critters do slipped a carp-load of DCs onto us while passing directly overhead :dead:

We suffered massive damage but managed to fix everything, apart from the conning tower (badly damaged) and the periscopes (both destroyed). Well, there was precious little left to do except trying to avoid the devil as best we could then, so that's exactly what we did - shallow waters notwithstanding!

It all started to look very dire indeed, but then all of a sudden a strangest thing happened. I ordered a new depth of 15ms... and lo and behold, the bugger lost us!!! He just went around in circles and pinged as he chugged along, but had no more contacts and dropped no DCs anymore...

Could've ended well, but as I said this Von Blixt character perceived himself as a brave man. The posterity has, however, rather seen him as a foolhardy idiot; and for a good reason too, for it so transpired that the man, with his walrus moustache shaking with rage and everything, ordered his best ship-mate Bernard to surface the boat and slug it out with the Briton using that mighty 88 mounted on the foredeck!

:damn: :rock: :arrgh!: :lol:

Notes to self:

* The English Channel:

1) Shallow
2) Dangerous
3) Don't go

* Kaleuns:

1) Old
2) Bold
3) Points 1 & 2 seem to be mutually exclusive

Ah well - exit Marcus Von Blixt, enter Marc Salamowsky... :lol:

PS / EDIT -

...I could blow ballast and save the crew if nothing else.

Sorry for the newbie question, but how does one surrender in this game???

Grayson02sept1980
03-17-08, 08:38 AM
imho till 43 it is better to evade at 12m than at 180... but after 42... well....

The 12m evasion hasn't worked since end of 42 for me....

danurve
03-17-08, 09:51 AM
In 41`ish off Freetown I would escapes several times at P-depth in somewhat choppy seas. Good hunting.
Would have returned more often if it wasn't for the the 50 thousand destroyers breeding from a cove just north of Freetown producing 50 thousand contact reports.

Sailor Steve
03-17-08, 11:41 AM
Great stories, both of you!

@ Freiwillige: My palms were sweating just reading that! Congratulations on a hair-raising escape.:rock:

@ msalama: Well, it's a good thing this isn't real life, so we can actually learn from episodes like that one. We still have Balz und Titz, but it looks like we won't have von Blixt to kick around anymore.:rotfl:

Sorry for the newbie question, but how does one surrender in this game???
Use SH3 Commander. It's the best bang-up, change you're whole world-view tool out there. One of its many functions lets you change a dead boat to a surrendered one.

msalama
03-18-08, 06:14 AM
Thank you Steve. I'm using SH3Cmdr already, but I honestly didn't know you can surrender a killed boat with it!!! Shows how much I know... and, perhaps, my level of comprehension / perception when reading documentation too :oops:

S! and thanks again m8.

Gezoes
03-18-08, 08:10 AM
Yep, I was sunk near Calais once, yeah I know... I tried :smug:

Still, I surfaced (blown to bits in SH3)... but using SH3Commander I could 'save' the crew and read my fate.