Oservation scope saves lives.

[Freiwillige]

I figured out that you can use the observation scope when running deep to look up at the surface and see destroyers dropping on you and also the direction they drop so I know which way to jink to get the most distance beetween me and the Wasserbomb when it goes off. even at 200 meters depth you can see above you quit clearly. Yoy can also use it to stay under a ship in convoy if forced under so that the escorts cant get to you. Then i wait getting deeper and deeper drop a bit behind the transport im under go flank and then jink left or rightthru the convoy going silent after i jink. That usually throw the escorts off.

Anybody else try this? (Note has to be observation scope not attack scope because observation scope can look directly up):roll:

[Sailor Steve]

Yep, lots of people claim to use it. I don't, since I keep the water so murky I can barely see my own bow through the periscope.

[Grayson02sept1980]

I have the watter also set more "dirty" via Sh3cmdr (10 I think)... yet I use this "trick" .. got to go down to 5 I guess ;)

Nothing gets your heard beat faster than seeing a DD pass right above you and dropping triple loads of DCs ;)

[Sailor Steve]

Mine is set at 2.

[Grayson02sept1980]

Mine is set at 2.

gotto try that ;)

[Canovaro]

Never used that. In nighttime it must be impossible.

I do use the obs scope to wait out a storm at 40-60 meters or so. You can see the waves and tell whether the storm is still there.

[Grayson02sept1980]

and another good idea! Thanks:hmm:

[SmokinTep]

The water is to dark at that depth. I'm sure this wasn't done in reality.

[Brag]

It works in the daytime but I seldom use it as in RL the visibility in the Atlantic is not that good.

[Vipper]

Loool, i can't live without it :D! If theres 100+ meters under my ship nooone will got me when i look up with observations scope, but i think it is rather unrealistic...

[Vipper]

I have the watter also set more "dirty" via Sh3cmdr (10 I think)... yet I use this "trick" .. got to go down to 5 I guess ;)

Nothing gets your heard beat faster than seeing a DD pass right above you and dropping triple loads of DCs ;)


Noob question for me but are GWX and sh3cmdr cumulative, can i use both of them?

[Sailor Steve]

No they're not, and yes you can. SH3 Commander is an external tool. It runs off your desktop and allows you to change a huge number of things with one click, as well as giving realistic crew names and other options. It works with any mod, as long as you use the mod-specific files that come with it.

Very easy to use, and it only changes what you ask it to. I wouldn't live without it.

[Vipper]

Neither. SH3 Commander is an external tool. It runs off your desktop and allows you to change a huge number of things with one click, as well as giving realistic crew names and other options. It works with any mod, as long as you use the mod-specific files that come with it.

Very easy to use, and it only changes what you ask it to. I wouldn't live without it.

Ty, i did installed it. I try to make my water murky too..

[Grayson02sept1980]

don't fprget about the Uboat directory

[Tessa]

Irl, the max the light can penetrate water is about 150 feet (42 meters). Though some light will still get reflected below this depth, no sea life that is dependant on light can grow below (generally speaking algae). Unless you're in clear blue water (like the south pacific) the areas that we mostly patrol aren't clear enough to see without an external light much more than 70 feet (using scuba diving as my guage, after 80+ feet usually need to bring a light). It's convenient that the game lets the observation scope do this, but not realistic once you start going deep.

[Canovaro]

Irl, the max the light can penetrate water is about 150 feet (42 meters). Though some light will still get reflected below this depth, no sea life that is dependant on light can grow below (generally speaking algae). Unless you're in clear blue water (like the south pacific) the areas that we mostly patrol aren't clear enough to see without an external light much more than 70 feet (using scuba diving as my guage, after 80+ feet usually need to bring a light). It's convenient that the game lets the observation scope do this, but not realistic once you start going deep.

That's interesting info.

Thanks for shining a light on that. :lol:

[Puster Bill]

Irl, the max the light can penetrate water is about 150 feet (42 meters). Though some light will still get reflected below this depth, no sea life that is dependant on light can grow below (generally speaking algae). Unless you're in clear blue water (like the south pacific) the areas that we mostly patrol aren't clear enough to see without an external light much more than 70 feet (using scuba diving as my guage, after 80+ feet usually need to bring a light). It's convenient that the game lets the observation scope do this, but not realistic once you start going deep.

Well, I used to go SCUBA diving (admittedly, in the clearer Pacific), and I can distinctly recall easily seeing the bottom of the dive boat when the light conditions at my depth were pretty low. It's the kind of thing where you can't see much laterally because of low light, but you can see things silhouetted against the bright surface.

MANY marine predators take advantage of this fact.

I suspect that you can see the shadow of a surface ship when it's directly above you much easier than you could see to the side.

[danurve]

I recall a mod that changed the Obs to a more rectangular view. That was cool.
The OLC gui Obs is impressive. I will admit to most times ignoring the Obs unless the attack scope is damaged. I use external view with a lower density setting just to watch d/c's going off around the sub, and sometimes switch to looking into the control room whhile being d/c'ed with Open Hatch, also very cool.

[Sailor Steve]

I suspect that you can see the shadow of a surface ship when it's directly above you much easier than you could see to the side.
Probably, but before I accepted it as a tactic I would use, I would first want to read one report of a submarine captain actually doing it.