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Kapitan_Phillips
03-11-08, 09:40 AM
For the benefit of clayp and others who may be having problems, I thought I'd post my tactics for avoiding the cause of many an angry simmer.


Anti-Submarine Nets -

Usually found scattered around critical ports and inlets (Tokyo Harbour, for example)
Due to their construction, not all of the inlet will be covered by the net, usually just the sides to prevent submarines sneaking in past patrol routes
To avoid them, either brave going straight in past the patrolling craft, or shadow another vessel (you may have to wait a while) as it comes in or out of the bay to find the best route.
Remember, turkey shoots dont come for free in SH4, so if you're not sure, it may be a better idea to stay outside and nab ships coming in or out, or not bother and not risk your boat
Mines -

I never thought these existed in the game until the front of my boat was blown off
Usually found in shallow waters surrounding ports or shipping lanes
To avoid them, stick to deep waters (70 feet or more) and proceed submerged where you suspect mines will be. Go slowly, so should one hit you but not destroy you in one, you dont risk drifting into another and finishing the deal
If you suspect you are in a minefield, proceed on the surface and retrace your steps slowly, keeping a sharp eye on the bridge for any disruptions on the water's surface
Minefields could in principal also be your friend. If you are being pursued and know there are shallow mines in an area of deep water, try going there and sitting close to the bottom. If the enemy ship doesnt blow itself up looking for you, it'll steer clear.
Its all common sense really, but since there are no specific ways to detect mines without the external camera, there's not alot you can do to combat them other than plan your attacks carefully.

Hope this helped a little. :)

punkmaster98
03-11-08, 01:48 PM
i've never seen any. where are they located?

clayp
03-11-08, 02:50 PM
For the benefit of clayp and others who may be having problems, I thought I'd post my tactics for avoiding the cause of many an angry simmer.

Anti-Submarine Nets -
Usually found scattered around critical ports and inlets (Tokyo Harbour, for example)
Due to their construction, not all of the inlet will be covered by the net, usually just the sides to prevent submarines sneaking in past patrol routes
To avoid them, either brave going straight in past the patrolling craft, or shadow another vessel (you may have to wait a while) as it comes in or out of the bay to find the best route.
Remember, turkey shoots dont come for free in SH4, so if you're not sure, it may be a better idea to stay outside and nab ships coming in or out, or not bother and not risk your boat
Mines -


I never thought these existed in the game until the front of my boat was blown off
Usually found in shallow waters surrounding ports or shipping lanes
To avoid them, stick to deep waters (70 feet or more) and proceed submerged where you suspect mines will be. Go slowly, so should one hit you but not destroy you in one, you dont risk drifting into another and finishing the deal
If you suspect you are in a minefield, proceed on the surface and retrace your steps slowly, keeping a sharp eye on the bridge for any disruptions on the water's surface
Minefields could in principal also be your friend. If you are being pursued and know there are shallow mines in an area of deep water, try going there and sitting close to the bottom. If the enemy ship doesnt blow itself up looking for you, it'll steer clear.
Its all common sense really, but since there are no specific ways to detect mines without the external camera, there's not alot you can do to combat them other than plan your attacks carefully.

Hope this helped a little. :)

Good tips Kapitan...I have it so I can use the external camera but I cant get a view of my boat underwater...

Major Johnson
03-11-08, 02:56 PM
When first going to external view, it puts you behind the boat, above the surface. You must use your mouse, one left click, then use the arrow keys and mouse cursor at the same time to move the camera. Point the mouse cursor towards the water and down you'll go!! It takes getting used to, but you'll get the hang of it. Good luck.

howler93
03-11-08, 03:15 PM
i've never seen any. where are they located?

I never thought there were any mines either (maybe there isn't in the stock version) until I was attempting to slither my way through Bungo Suido... one minute everything's honky-dory and the next, all hands lost... :cry: I've steered well clear of shallow waters and bottle-necks since then :yep:

Good hunting,
Howler :arrgh!:

Zantham
03-11-08, 03:26 PM
I haven't encountered mines either in SH4, but in SH3 I often used the observation scope to spot them. As long as you were travelling slow you still had enough time to avoid them. Is this not possible in SH4?

-Pv-
03-11-08, 04:56 PM
Mines can be seen with the scopes. Also, instead of using F11, use the normal keyboard period(.)
-Pv-

clayp
03-11-08, 05:13 PM
When first going to external view, it puts you behind the boat, above the surface. You must use your mouse, one left click, then use the arrow keys and mouse cursor at the same time to move the camera. Point the mouse cursor towards the water and down you'll go!! It takes getting used to, but you'll get the hang of it. Good luck.


THANK YOU,THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!.........:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

JREX53
03-11-08, 10:37 PM
Howler93,

The mine fields are in the stock game. If you have the map that came with the game.
Look at the legend and it tells you the different colors for the different years of the war. Fields are mostly around Japan.

If you don't have a map this link will take you to a site where you can download the map. http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.4902

Also in Trigger Maru, Ducimus increased the density of the mine fields, the stock fields are not very dense.

Hope this helps!

seaniam81
03-11-08, 10:50 PM
D also changed what depth you'll find them too

Idaeus
03-12-08, 09:27 AM
Thank you for this! I haven't encountered any mines/nets so far but I probably will one day so thanks! :)