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XabbaRus
03-07-08, 06:46 PM
Now that we have only 3 runners until the democrats choose their one Neal could you create a new poll showing out of these 3 who we think would become next US president?

Takeda Shingen
03-07-08, 07:05 PM
As per request. Poll closes in 14 days to avoid the ever-irritating zombie poll.

Sailor Steve
03-07-08, 07:21 PM
Pat Paulson. If you don't get it, you're too young.

Platapus
03-07-08, 07:26 PM
Pat Paulson. If you don't get it, you're too young.

Excellent!

bradclark1
03-07-08, 07:44 PM
Pat Paulson. If you don't get it, you're too young.
One problem with that. He's dead!

Letum
03-07-08, 07:49 PM
Am I to late to apply?

Iceman
03-07-08, 10:09 PM
Again...McCain...see other "Who will be pres" post for reasons why... --->

lol..another pres poll:roll:

August
03-07-08, 10:13 PM
Pat Paulson. If you don't get it, you're too young. One problem with that. He's dead!

Bah a minor detail!

http://www.paulsen.com/pat/

Blacklight
03-07-08, 10:52 PM
Wow. McCain and Obama are neck and neck here on Subsim too !

silentrunner
03-07-08, 11:01 PM
I had to vote for Obama. I don't want him to win but he seems to have the most support.

PeriscopeDepth
03-08-08, 02:29 AM
I have to point out... This isn't the greatest sample. It's skewed just a lil' towards men for starters.

I predict it depends. If the Dems nom is Hillary, it will be McCain. If the Dems nom is Obama, it will be him. But close.

PD

CCIP
03-08-08, 03:51 AM
I had to vote for Obama. I don't want him to win but he seems to have the most support.

I "voted" for him for the opposite reason. I would prefer to see him get elected out of the 3, but I'm also suspecting McCain stands a much better chance than he does. :hmm:

STEED
03-08-08, 08:51 AM
McCain.

The question is who will he face? Clinton would be a less of a threat but we shall see.

Jimbuna
03-08-08, 10:24 AM
Clinton (as per my last vote)

She has some unfinished business to attend to in the White House.....I hear the carpet still hasn't had that stain removed http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9379/winkbigid2ph3.gif

Skybird
03-08-08, 10:51 AM
Who has the best chances so that probability is in faovur of the person becoming president, that is the poll asking. So although two months ago I would not have imagined to say that: McCain. I think the endless duel between Clinton and Obama is damaging the democrat's camp in general.

from what I would consider to be the preferable option left now: I never supported clinton for I do not wnat the presidency being run as family business, not with the clintons, not with the Bushes, not with any other clan there is. Obama is unproven, he says a lot what he wants to do: chnaging things, but if he has the means (and the acceptance inside in the Washington shark pool that you need to swim through it in one piece) is not a given. So I go with McCain, if being forced to participate in elections. But I am not forced to vote, and so I never would vote any mainstream politician at all. Being pragmatic: maybe McCain is the smallest of the three evils left. He also is easier for europe to resist to than Obama, although both will make it more difficult, for it did not take a rocket scientist to refuse to join Bush's policies. Obama would confront europe with unrealistic demands of showing loyalty, and cause problems that way, McCain seem to have better insight into europe and europeans, and thus sets less drastic, more realistic goals in relations to europe, and what to dejmand of it, and what better not.

but , like the democrats the reps also havean internal problem. One really cannot say that the party is fully united behind McCain. And maybe this proves all my assessements wrong in novembre. so while it has become a bit easier to oversee the situation, still nothing is sure. But in the poill that Neal had started, I refused to make any predictions at all and did not vote, that open it all was.

bradclark1
03-08-08, 11:18 AM
For me it's still too early to tell. Obama and Hillary have the potential to do more damage to turn a lot of people off. I don't think McCain can get the Republican party totally behind him. I think we'll know more in seven weeks.
None of the candidates are saying what I want to hear about Iraq and they are all ignoring Afghanistan and those two things are what will ultimately swing my vote..

Tchocky
03-08-08, 11:29 AM
Washington Post - Your call to act on "actionable intelligence about high value terrorist targets" appears identical to current administration policy. Yet the problem seems to be less a willingness to act than the availability of "actionable intelligence." Do you advocate increasing that presence in Pakistan, regardless of whether the Pakistani government agrees? What type of increased U.S. presence would you like to see in both Pakistan and Afghanistan?

Barack Obama - The problem goes beyond developing actionable intelligence. It is acting on it. The failure to focus on Afghanistan and the FATA [Federally Administered Tribal Areas in Pakistan] because our resources were diverted to Iraq has enabled al-Qaeda to develop a sanctuary for its core leadership, likely including Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri.
The Bush administration has not acted aggressively enough to go after al-Qaeda's leadership. In 2002, their failure to use U.S. troops in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan allowed al-Qaeda's leadership to cross the border to Pakistan. The New York Times reported that in early 2005 an opportunity was missed to strike an al-Qaeda leadership meeting -- reportedly including Ayman al-Zawahiri. According to the Times, this decision, "frustrated some top intelligence officials and members of the military's secret Special Operations units, who say the United States missed a significant opportunity to try to capture senior members of Al Qaeda." Furthermore, the administration itself acknowledged that the strategy of working through Pakistani tribes to capture al-Qaeda leaders had failed.
As president, I would send at least two additional combat brigades to Afghanistan. I would focus more Special Operations resources along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, including intelligence-gathering assets. I would condition some military assistance to Pakistan on their action in the FATA. And I would be clear that if Pakistan cannot or will not take out al-Qaeda leadership when we have actionable intelligence about their whereabouts, we will act to protect the American people. There can be no safe haven for al-Qaeda terrorists who killed thousands of Americans and threaten our homeland today. From here - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/02/AR2008030201982_2.html?nav=rss_politics/elections&sid=ST2008030300128

geetrue
03-08-08, 12:05 PM
I was surprised that Hillary won the last subsim poll and now she's in the what's left over poll ...

Hillary is already dropping hints that she's up for a Clinton/Obama run for the White House ...

That would complicate things a bit ...

Record numbers of young democrats have been turning up to vote in the democratic primary's.

I still go with Senator John McCain as the most likely person to use his authority to delegate the United States of America's giant military machine.

He just looks like a white haired admiral sitting on the bridge of a mighty aircraft carrier ... to me.

Oberon
03-08-08, 12:26 PM
I voted not for who I want to win, but who I think probably will, and that's Hilary.

PeriscopeDepth
03-08-08, 01:05 PM
He just looks like a white haired admiral sitting on the bridge of a mighty aircraft carrier ... to me.

Well he does come from a long, distinguished line of white haired admirals. :)

PD

Stealth Hunter
03-08-08, 01:20 PM
The problem with McCain is that he's too hot-headed. Several of his friends have described him as a person who loses control when he gets angry. If he was in office, and henceforth had nuclear weapons at his disposal, then it would be very risky. He could very well punch the big red button, if you know what I mean...

I also have personal issues with McCain, particularly how he bashed Clinton's daughter, making the claim that she must have been the spawn of Janet Reno. You need to see the entire thing that he said. He's just another dirty politician who's not going to make much of a difference once he gets in office.

I also have a problem with his leadership tactics. A few years ago, he said he would continue President Bush's way of handling the country and Iraq...

Finally, the man is just too old and too sickly. He could die on us at any time, particularly when we need him the most, and that's something that would be extremely bad... although I have to admit that I wouldn't feel that bad about his passing and I'd probably skip any moments of silence broadcast on TV.

He just looks like a white haired admiral sitting on the bridge of a mighty aircraft carrier ... to me.

Oh my god. It's the best reason in the world why we should vote for him...

People, people, people! Come on! Get common sense! Why do you only care about looks and not about management tactics? I'd take a person who looks like ****, but still manages the country in a proper manner over a person who looks great, but handles the country the way Britney Spears handles her kids.

bradclark1
03-08-08, 01:20 PM
United States of America's giant military machine.

Thats part of the problem. It isn't giant, it's small and geared for quick in and out action.

Stealth Hunter
03-08-08, 01:22 PM
United States of America's giant military machine.

Thats part of the problem. It isn't giant, it's small and geared for quick in and out action.

Actually, the United States has the second largest military in the world... underneath China's, that is, but you can't really compete with that... unless you use proper technology against a bunch of rice farmers that can handle a pitchfork better than they can a gun.

Jimbuna
03-08-08, 04:46 PM
I voted not for who I want to win, but who I think probably will, and that's Hilary.

Same here :yep:

DeepIron
03-08-08, 04:58 PM
If Clinton gets the nomination I'll vote Clinton.
If Obama get the nomination I'll vote McCain.

The US can't take another ineffective 4 year Presidential term, and that, IMO, is exactly what Obama will deliver. He wants to change, change, change. Criminy, he hasn't even been elected to a second term by his own constituency yet...

While I understand that Clinton doesn't have all the answers, I consider her experience as a First Lady and as a Senator, more acceptable.

McCain is my last choice as the "evil of two lessers" and I always vote, even if it is just to "shut up" those that don't vote and then complain afterwards...

bradclark1
03-08-08, 07:44 PM
United States of America's giant military machine.

Thats part of the problem. It isn't giant, it's small and geared for quick in and out action.

Actually, the United States has the second largest military in the world... underneath China's, that is, but you can't really compete with that... unless you use proper technology against a bunch of rice farmers that can handle a pitchfork better than they can a gun.
Might be the second largest but it's still small and geared for quick in and out action. Thats why it's so high tech and expensive. Quality over quantity.

Edit- In fact the US Army's mission was changed in 2005 I see. http://www.army.mil/aps/05/ Not one I'm really thrilled with but I guess it's realistic. I wonder what it means for size and organization.

sonar732
03-08-08, 09:15 PM
Go figure...good ol' Bill is supporting his wife on the thought of Barak being the VP running mate.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

elite_hunter_sh3
03-09-08, 12:25 AM
right now i want mccain to win, because he is the only one with the balls to bomb iran :yep: (and august too...:lol: :up: )

:shifty:

nikimcbee
03-09-08, 12:33 AM
So Neal, who'd you vote for in the Texas primary?:cool: ;)

geetrue
03-09-08, 02:31 PM
So Neal, who'd you vote for in the Texas primary?:cool: ;)


Ron Paul had to have someone vote for him ... :rotfl:

sonar732
03-09-08, 04:20 PM
So Neal, who'd you vote for in the Texas primary?:cool: ;)

Ron Paul had to have someone vote for him ... :rotfl:

elite_hunter made a quick dash to Texas and established residency so that he could vote for Ron Paul...he did this in every state off the record. ;)