Going mad! How do I add a second deck gun?

[Nisgeis]

I'm sure I've added a second deck gun before, but for the life of me I can't seem to add another one. I've tried starting a new career with Porpoise classes through 1941-45 also Tambor and Balao class subs, but there is only the option to replace the bow gun with the stern gun.

I did a search, but only found threads on problems mannig the second deck gun.

Anyone any ideas? Also, is there a 5" gun available as an upgrade?

[Raptor1]

There are some mods with the USS Narwhal, which had 2 6" guns, maybe your referring to that...

[maerean_m]

You can't. The game's engine only allows one deck gun.

[Raptor1]

But i've played with the Narwhal, it has 2 deck guns, but you can only manually man 1 of them (works fine with the crew manning them...)

[JREX53]

Raptor1,

The Narwhal is not a stock submarine. It was added by Ducimus (Trigger Maru) and FooFighter (the skin).

There is a way to have 2 deck guns, but you have to get into some files to set up the crew manning manually. I don't remember which files though, sorry.

edit: Look at Fincun's post on this thread.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=127510&highlight=missing+crew

[Raptor1]

I know, but it shows that the game engine does support it

[JREX53]

I know, I have installed 2 deck guns before, but I could only put men on 1 of the guns.

I have not tried Fincun's fix but it works.

[Nisgeis]

I know, I have installed 2 deck guns before, but I could only put men on 1 of the guns.

I have not tried Fincun's fix but it works.

Did you have the second deck gun on the Narwahl mod or was it a standard sub? I can't remember for sure, but I wasn't big on mods back when I first started with SH4 and I don't think I ever tried that mod.

[JREX53]

It wasn't on the Narwhal.

I think it was either a Tambor or Gato, but I am not sure, it was a few months ago.

Edit: I am not even sure if I took it to sea. I think because I couldn't man the second Gun I just removed it and started the career. So I think it was before Fincun's fix came out.

[DS]

Aside from the Narwal mod, I believe stock SH4 as well as the RFB and TM super mods allow Balaos, and maybe Gatos, to have two deck guns, but only in 1945. I have had this option before with no special related mods aside from TM.

[neosnk35]

yup on my last career i got that too on my ballao... fore and aft, but i think its only available for the 5'25 cal.. and i have seen a fix for it to both manned by the crew (cant remember the thread) or ai.. you can man only one though.. playing vanilla 1.2 sh4

[clayp]

You can't. The game's engine only allows one deck gun.

This is not true,in SH4 I run a Gato with two 5.25 guns..I will try to post the relevent files later today....This is in 1941 and both guns are manned...

[SteamWake]

Meh I hardley use the one I have now, another gun would be just more weight and drag /shrug

[clayp]

I'm trying to upload the files to filefront they are in a mod I made for myself but I'm having trouble getting them to upload,I will keep trying..

[Fincuan]

A few more months and we could have celebrated the one-year anniversary of this thread :lol:

What maerean_m, who is a member of the dev team to those who didn't know, said is correct in one sense: You can only man one deck gun yourself, no matter how many are installed.

You can however install as up to four guns of any type by editing the correct files. Weight and drag aren't an issue because the dg has no effect on them. If it had this sub would be in big trouble:
http://staufa.sytes.net/files/tutorial/yamatoguns.jpg

That's four of Yamato's turrets on a Balao :lol:

[clayp]

Nisgeis I belive that I have all the files uploaded here...http://hosted.filefront.com/clayp/.........Check them out against yours and you will see where things are changed..I had to change a lot...Back your stuff up before changing..The changed files are in the DATA folder in UPCData,ROSTER and SUBMARINE folders...Hope this helps you...

[neosnk35]

@Fincuan
a big "WHAT THE" i would really wet my pants if something like that points a gun at me.. scary stuff there.. one thing though,, it was my doing though that this post gets out of the 59th page trough the first page... did not notice the last post was ages ago...i'm new here, i love browsing this forums from page 1 until i get tired for the night...

@clayp
nice stuff..

[clayp]

HMMMM I think I got suckered in here.Whatever

[neosnk35]

nah you aint suckered... i just dl'ed your stuff... and in the process of comprehending it... i loved deck gunning those merchies.. oh and one thing if you could help with an a dual 4.50 deck gun(too much for a noob err,, reviving an almost dead thread and asking for stuffs)

[Nisgeis]

Nisgeis I belive that I have all the files uploaded here...http://hosted.filefront.com/clayp/.........Check them out against yours and you will see where things are changed..I had to change a lot...Back your stuff up before changing..The changed files are in the DATA folder in UPCData,ROSTER and SUBMARINE folders...Hope this helps you...

Thanks Clay, I downloaded the files and will see how you went about it. It was quite a while ago I posted this and I'm not sure what I did in the end, will be interesting to see what you did. As far as I can remember, the dual 5/25" is not offered as an option during the campaign, but what I also wanted was a way to force the dual 5/25" to be installed when you played a custome mission. When you add an unmanned Balao, it gets dual 5/25"s, but when you man set it to be the player, the configuration changes. Never did work out why.