New realistic way to play SH3 GWX. (no time compression)

[Gotmilk]

Hello dear sailors. I have invented a new immersive way to play SH3 with GWX. Maybe some of you have done that before. Yesterday at 15.35 i started my brand new patrol. So i synced my ingame time to 15.35 and started the patrol.

The thing is that i will not use time compression. So now my sub has been traveling almos 20 hours. It takes 5-6 days to reach my patrol area. The game will run 24/7 for me and i will live two alternate lives. One is real life doing my everyday stuff and other life is where i am commander of a german submarine. So the question is how can i play this game 24/7. Well yesterday i went to sleep i putted my submarine under water and in silent mode and let it to proceed hes course. Today morning i woke up. I checked if everything was fine. I surfaced to boat and reloaded batterys and new air and CO2. Just right before i went to work i dove the boat again in silent running. I hope that if any enemy appear my sub will pass unnoticed. So when i get back home i will surface the boat again and proceed my patrol on surface.

I have two computers on my table. The PC is for everyday stuff. I usually learn 3ds Max or Maya. But the second comupter witch is laptop is running SH3 24/7

So when i am home i use my PC and when i get some message or contact in SH3 i will jump to my laptop and start to make operations.

The only concern is what happens if my computer locks up or my boat will die under enemy fire while i am away. Then i load the game from last save point. (I save game in every 8 hours) and sync my ingame clock with TC. So my ingame clock will be the same time as in real life. And i pretend that nothing happened :D

The reason why i play this way is because i dont have lot of time to play SH3 constantly. Playing this way is a lot easier and more realistic. I jump out of my boots when i get a contact after 16 real life hour on patrol.

Oh yeah and one thing more. Tonight i slept with my earplugs on. The GWX underwater interior sounds are perfect. I really have feeling that i slept entire night in a submarine.

From now on i will post my daily logs of that patrol. (i know that i wont sink any enemy ships cause i am too noob to hit anything.)

And i play realism on 100%


EDIT: And i call this kind of gameplay "Captain SleepALot" Because my boat captain is virtually sleeping 16 hours every day and cannot make critical decisions. Every day i am about 6 hours behind my computer. So this 6 hours are the only hours when captain can call the shots :)

[Canovaro]

A great idea to make no-tc more practical!


Oh yeah and one thing more. Tonight i slept with my earplugs on. The GWX underwater interior sounds are perfect. I really have feeling that i slept entire night in a submarine.

:rock: love it!

[Steel_Tomb]

This has been done before, goodluck mate. rather you than me lol.

[Penelope_Grey]

No TC and no cigars make Penny go crazy......... :damn::damn::damn::damn::damn:

That means, given that I no longer smoke, if I were to lose TC I would then be totally crazy instead of semi-crazy. Rather you than me! lol

[Brag]

Good luck with it. :D

[moscowexile]

Keine Zigaretten, kein Bier, keine Frauen?

:-?

[flag4]

If you are playing at 100% realism

your personal hygene may be called in to question:


........freinds will stand away, family will worry....

...collegues at work may not dine with you....


...and if you stand still, people in the street may give you money.

[vedrand]

Hi there and good luck!

There are several threads on real-time patrols, I find it amazing that people decide to do such a thing... but well.. I remember some people reporting that the crew fatigue model is not well suited for this type of gaming, because the crew goes tired all the time. If you run into that problem, there is a mod called sth. like Vitamin Crew Mod, which apparently works well (did not try it myself). Anyhow, the other threads are defo worth reading for you.


Do not forget to update your reports, and personally I would be interested to learn how long the game will run before the computer crashes.

Marry sinking :arrgh!:

[Chisum]

Gotmilk, you do a great job !
Incredible.
If God bless us, I'll be back in 2013 to watch your score.

Very impatient.
:up:

[kiwi_2005]

There are players out there that have been doing this since day one they wont play the game any other way.

Really if your got the patience its probably the best way to play this game.

Good luck:up:

[Gotmilk]

22.19 September 4 1939 U-48 - sent my patrol report. Location Grid AN 82. Destination grid BE31. Have to patrol that area for 24 hours. Today was a quiet day. My boat was in periscope depth from 08.00 - 18.30. Sadly the electric compartment crew got tired at 14.23 and left for break. So 14.23 - 18.30 my boat stayed in same position.(edited conf file so the crew does not get tired anymore) 18.35 surfaced to boat and read radio messages. Most of them was political mumbo jumbo reminding me to press on the attack. Two messages caught my eye.

1) September 3 21.13 From U-14 ATTACKED POLISH SUBMARINE FOUND WRECKAGE AND OIL

2) September 4 12.02 From FdU BY ORDER OF THE FÜHRER. NO HOSTILE ACTION IS TO BE TAKEN AGAINST PASSENGER SHIPS SAILING INDEPENDENTLY OR IN CONVOY

Next 30-50 hours is taking me to pass StraBe von Dover canal. Its a shallow water with heavy traffic and air support. I hope that i pass it with no problems. From there on its easy to pass on Atlantic. We see how it goes. In one hour i commant the sub to go periscome depth and rig it for silent running. I hope that the next 8 hours go without any problems while i am sleeping.

U-48 out.

[Sailor Steve]

Maybe some of you have done that before.
Oh, yes. Almost three years ago now a game magazine had an article on a player who did just that.

The game will run 24/7 for me and i will live two alternate lives. One is real life doing my everyday stuff and other life is where i am commander of a german submarine.
And that is why I don't do it. To me, if you're doing something else then you're not playing the game, real time or not. Unless you save the game when you're not playing, and only run it when you can be there, then it's no different than using time compression. And if you only run it when you're there, it could take a year to do a six-week patrol

But don't let me be too discouraging. You do what makes you happy.

[Chisum]

"edited conf file so the crew does not get tired anymore"

100% realistic ??

:hmm:

[Gotmilk]

"edited conf file so the crew does not get tired anymore"

100% realistic ??

:hmm:

Yes thats the one thing i have to disable cause the crew does not change itself. So when i am away from my computer i will lose hours when they go to rest. I just "pretend" that they are tired and change them after i get back to my computer.

[FIREWALL]

This has been done before, goodluck mate. rather you than me lol.


What he said. :D

[Gotmilk]

00.20 September 5 1939 U-48 Just sunk french merchant with flak gun. Ordering crew to go P depth for next 7,5 hours. Going to sleep.

U-48 out.

[von Kinderei]

Best of luck mate ... :up:

[Hartmann]

Good luck captain !!:D

Have you planned some far patrol ?? like american coast or caribbean ??? :88)

i tried it with tc but in real time could be more than 60 days.

[Platapus]

You go man!

Me? I get impatient using TC of only 128 :)

[Marko_Ramius]

The fact the game/sim can be played that way or in another with TC all the time, or a mix of both, is a fantastic gift made to us :up:


This even could be a great scientist experience :know: How the player react after few days, weeks etc. Well i mean really stays in a room with the computer without go to work, no wife, be able to see the light of the day only if on surface ; Red lights for night, etc ..

This is crazy, isn't it :rotfl:


Anyway, my respect for those who can do full RT :rock:

[Knipper]

I tried no TC and it just wasn't possible to do justice to the sim. Yeah you can save and come back to it, but Prien & co couldn't do that and immersion is what it's all about. so, no TC is just an ambition for me. here's the only way I can do this properly I think. 1) win the lottery so I don't have to work. 2) divorce my wife. 3) Move my pc top the bathroom. 4) get my beer delivered. Until I achieve these goals, save game will be the next best thing. Power to you Gotmilk:rock:

[ChrisG2100]

Very Cool.:rock: Am with you in spirit.

[Thendash]

I saw an article on subsim a while ago about how to turn a room into a submarine, it had instructions on everything from rounding out the door and replicating the hatch used in a sub, to having different lights for red and white light. If you could find it and do that to your computer room (or entire house...) then that would be the greatest way to play TC1 short of buying a sub and doing it for real. Good luck either way!

[Kpt. Lehmann]

More power to you, GotMilk! :rock:

You are doing what I'd like to do if I had the time.

Note: I do NOT recomment the "crew vitamins" mod for use with GWX that someone on this thread recommended to you earlier. The file containing the fatigue model for GWX also controls NUMEROUS other functions that may cause you problems if you replace it with the VERY old "crew vitamins" mod. The fatigue model in GWX equals to roughly eight-hour shifts that should give you time to sleep... and represents a HUGE extension of the fast tiring of the crew in stock SH3.

You might also consider purchasing a baby monitor so you can visit other areas of your U-boat (house) as needed too. (It really works... I tried it out myself... just don't get the cheapest one and think in terms of rechargeable units.)

[StarFox]

Well, good luck, to be honest I would go mad without time compression, and my girlfriend would kill me, so its far safer to just compress the whole patrol into an hour or two

[Madox58]

I don't remember hearing from the guy who did this a few years ago?
Perhaps he was found by a Hunter/Killer Group
so never reported in?

Now that's REAL!!
:rotfl:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

I don't remember hearing from the guy who did this a few years ago?
Perhaps he was found by a Hunter/Killer Group
so never reported in?

Now that's REAL!!
:rotfl:

Good old "Wrratt." One of the guys who fueled my own passion for SH3 and the U-boat war.

Some people here gave him absolute hell for simply enjoying himself. It wouldn't surprise me if that was why he left.

I remember him as a nice guy. Mail-carrier by day... Uber SH3 Kaleun by night.:rock: :rock: :rock:

[Gotmilk]

Double post :(

[Gotmilk]

07.42 September 5 1939 U-48 Time of waking up. Checked for new messages. 07.12 i had a merchant contact long distance. I surfaced the boat to reload battery a little bit and and ventilated boat with air. Made a quick look on deck. Discovered that i was just about 10 km away from Dover harbour. Sadly i did not have time to conduct any attacks on merchant ships that resided near dock Decided to press forward to my patrol area.

08.10 Dove the boat to Pdepth and rigged for silent running. Also adjusted my route so the boat would be more in the center of canal to avoid enemy ships. Going to work. I hope nothing bad happens while i am away.

U-48 out.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i would do the same for my WaW patrol, but i dont think i can stay 2 months at sea for one patrol as the limit is 3 weeks ;)

good luck there

[Chisum]

"edited conf file so the crew does not get tired anymore"

100% realistic ??

:hmm:

Yes thats the one thing i have to disable cause the crew does not change itself. So when i am away from my computer i will lose hours when they go to rest. I just "pretend" that they are tired and change them after i get back to my computer.

Be sure it was not a critic.
;)
But are you sure that is necessary ?
Are you going away so long time ?
Crew must not be so tired after 8 or 10 hours if they are 100% ok at the beginning of their work or i make a mistake ?

Anyway your job still a great job.
Good hunting Herr kaleun.

:up:

[Gezur(Arbeit)]

Its a game and not the reality, reality was much more different, so playing with 1x makes just no sence for me.....

[Gotmilk]

07.00 September 6 1939 U-48 Past 24 hours has been total boredom. I got tons of contacts (cause i am in English canal with lots of harbours) But i did not have any time to conduct attacks. I am half way trough the canal. 90% of the time i am in Pdepth with silent running. I only surface to reload battery and air. I only ride on surface when i am at home. So i can act quickly at any contact. I have made about 8 contacts so far. Most of them was warships. To be honest i dont have guts and experience to attack warships. In my first patrol i am just looking lone merchants ships so i could take them down with my deck gun. Yes i know. A cowardly way. But if you have invested more than 60 hours to that patrol you just dont want to waste yourself and your crew by being a hero.Yesterday just before i went to sleep i putted on earplugs and listened wonderful GWX grammophone music. What a fantastic night it was. Being underwater listening underwater ambient sound. A motor silently running and the music. I really felt that i am in submarine.

I think that today will be just the same day as usual. I dont think that i will see any action. If i see a lone merchant while i am near my computer then i will conduct an attack. The worst thing is that when i am returning from my patrol i have to pass that shallow water canal again. I cannot afford to go any other way because i dont have enough diesel. So i guess that riding back will be again at Pdepth and silent running. Ok now its time to get to work. I wish my men well while i am away.

U-48 Out

[antikristuseke]

Keine Zigaretten, kein Bier, keine Frauen?

:-?

Crazy talk, crazy talk I tells ya:doh:

Anyhows good luck with your real time patrolling, I'll stick to TC myself.

[Iron Budokan]

I've done a couple of 1X patrols. Love 'em. They are without a doubt my most memorable patrols. :up:

[abclkhan]

Hey Haveyou ever thought about plugging your laptop to a home theater????
and turn volume to maximum when being depthcharged in GWX?:arrgh!:
ok im just kidding, i like the idea, it is similar to what i propose in my topic "online campaign"... But be careful so as not to damage your laptop:up:

[vedrand]

BdU an U48 - melden Sie ihren Standort!
(report your position :ping:)

[Myxale]

I love reading about other peoples 1x patrols!

Like any sub-sim veteran I have done a few 1x patrols in my time!

Did the Gibraltar strait in 43' once in 1x and it was the most nerve-whackin' and tiering mission ever!
And it being with the earlier GWX didn't help matters! ;)

:rock:

When I made ti (and it was a close call; my Boot was all banged up) I felt like dropping dead in my bed and after i had a good cry!:yep:

So here comes my 1000th post Cheers to all of ya mates!:rotfl:

[bosna387]

Good luck mate

[Chisum]

Yesterday I left Willhelmshaven in x1 without automatic way.
I must say that was great and very fun to naviguate in real time, giving my own orders to make the way in the haven.

But when I had finished eating I did not have the patience to continue the 800 miles separating me of the square of mission ...

One day perhaps...

:-?

[vedrand]

Today we received no report from U-48 Herr Dönitz, although we expected one. Will they ever report again? :-?

[nikbear]

Best of luck Gotmilk,I'll be watchin and reading with avid interest:yep: :up: this kind of patrol might just throw up some interesting information that the majority of us miss with us using TC,so.....all power to you:rock:

[von hally]

i know the number of a good phsycologist/mental health expert

i think youl need it after your first patrol herr kaleun

good luck and say hello to mr soft cell when you see him:o

[harzfeld]

Even trying to get the experience being in U-boat during WW2 using this simulation is still different from real life. This simulation is more limiting and too bored for me to experience no TC. If in real life, I cannot leave U-boat & crew by hop in a raft and sail away to do my errands or pleasures, cannot be interrupted by personal life, jobs, or outside contacts of relatives, friends, etc, and I would have access to any sections of boat, not limited to only radio, command, bridge, and conning tower. Also the crews from real life are much more alive than the ones in game. Would be nice if future mods will add a feature that allows us manging crew's clothes and appearances to our preference using locker room or bunk quarter during game, maybe play pokers with crew in stern or bow quarters, able to access in engine room and see/hear how engine is pumping, and even maybe I can help crew loading torpedoes in torpedo quarter to finish the job quicker, and run drills. Then run on no TC would be worth it if there are much more life to add to the game. I tried no TC for one day, I got motion sickness even I didn't usually get it when I was at real sea, so it must be simulation sickness.

[Gotmilk]

For those who were waiting U-48 reports. I am sorry to inform but U-48 was sunk. I dont know how. I was away at work and my boat was on pdepth with silent running. I guess he stumble on random warboat and got depth charged.

I thought maybe to reload previous save point. But that would be cheating. I guess i will start new career soon. But not just now. Although i travelled about 1500 km i feel very tired. I m just sorry that i never reached my patrol area. Dangerous place this english channel is :(

[Chisum]

In the english Channel !
God !
I know what is it: you have probably tuch the bottom of the sea.
I have sometime the same problem in x 2048, it's the same like you because no time to secure the ship.
Also it's maby a destroyer because you can't be absolutly invisible in the channel.

It means that if you had been present it would not have occurred.

You can now reload the previous save point without sadness.

GO again and hang on.
:up:

PS:
Yesterday I tried to play partially like you.
Whenever I have to go up for batterys, I still x1.
The game takes another dimension.
In addition, I was in AN18, maximum 95 m of deep !
The planes and destroyers at all times and I was never quiet, no time to ear music, always in alert.
And in june, never night...

Giant.

[Dekessey]

For those who were waiting U-48 reports. I am sorry to inform but U-48 was sunk. I dont know how. I was away at work and my boat was on pdepth with silent running. I guess he stumble on random warboat and got depth charged.

I thought maybe to reload previous save point. But that would be cheating. I guess i will start new career soon. But not just now. Although i travelled about 1500 km i feel very tired. I m just sorry that i never reached my patrol area. Dangerous place this english channel is :(


That means if you want to play TC1 realistically, you must do it while you have access to your computer. Your crew should react when a ship is spotted. You could let the game run even when sleeping. If you put the sound loud enough, you should hear your crew if something shows up. I remember reading something along those lines in another post about TC1 patrols.

But personnally, I don't see the point into crossing seas without anything happening. Why bother puting up with that? :doh:

[von hally]

Stay Away From The English Channell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!