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Chisum
02-23-08, 10:23 PM
Hi,

It is possible to download somewhere the entire gramophone of GWX 2.0 ?

Thanks in advance.

;)

Laufen zum Ziel
02-24-08, 12:25 AM
Dont know about the whole download but there are tons of mods out there that have tons of great gramaphone songs. Try the below site in the associated music tab and in the Mod Kings tab. Under Mod Kings you will find tons of sound mods. There are also a lot of sound mods listed on the subsim download site.

Hope this helps.

Es ist kein Ton zu hören, wie ein guter Sound.

http://silent-hunter-addict.com

The Butcher
02-24-08, 07:09 AM
Are you talking about using the Gramaphone as a music player outside the game or are you looking for more music for the game?

Von Manteuffel
02-24-08, 07:25 AM
Just copy the files from Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Sounds\gramapho ne to wherever you want them.

You can drop more tracks into the gramaphone folder. It's best to make sure that all the files / tracks are in the same format ( e.g. all .ogg, or all .mp3 )

Jimbuna
02-24-08, 09:44 AM
If it's music your after, you could do worse than look here: http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128841&highlight=gramaphone

Sailor Steve
02-24-08, 11:13 AM
I'll have some German music files ready for upload in a couple of days. You'll be amazed.

Chisum
02-24-08, 02:00 PM
Are you talking about using the Gramaphone as a music player outside the game or are you looking for more music for the game?

It's to use in the game only.
I try to explain.
I can't run GWX 2.0 quietly(graphics troubles) but I like some music included in its gramophone and I'v forget to save theses songs before uninstall...
Of course, I can reinstall GWX 2.0 to save the gramophone but that is a long long long long long operation.
That's for I ask you.

Thanks all or the very nterresting links, I download all.

;)

The Butcher
02-24-08, 10:09 PM
Those links already listed will get you most of those in GWX plus a lot more. Also you can search for Gramaphone and find even more. You'll end up with some great tracks. That's what I did and I can play for hours without any repeats. Good hunting Chisum.

Chisum
02-25-08, 02:09 PM
I'm very enjoyed by the new tracks downloaded !
For exemple, 2 tracks of Helen Forrest and 2 others of Vera Lynn !
Great songs.
Thanks again and good hunting to u2 Butcher.

;)

Chisum
03-10-08, 12:28 PM
If it's music your after, you could do worse than look here: http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128841&highlight=gramaphone

Hi Jimbuna,

I listened one of your files, the 4th exactly, and 2 times, in the middle of an attack surfaced, I'd a crash to dekstop, losing my 3 last saves...
I put that here because the crash says:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8396/soundactgw2.jpg

But maby it's not the reason, I don't know.
What do you thing about it ?

moscowexile
03-10-08, 12:50 PM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.

Jimbuna
03-10-08, 04:54 PM
If it's music your after, you could do worse than look here: http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128841&highlight=gramaphone

Hi Jimbuna,

I listened one of your files, the 4th exactly, and 2 times, in the middle of an attack surfaced, I'd a crash to dekstop, losing my 3 last saves...
I put that here because the crash says:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8396/soundactgw2.jpg

But maby it's not the reason, I don't know.
What do you thing about it ?

If you look at the fault message....it is a sound file and a mod designated one at that which is being referred to, not an ogg.vorbis file.
If/when the game encounters a problem with an ogg.vorbis file, it stops playing within 20 or so seconds and skips to the next track.
Are you sure you have not tinkered with one of the dozens of sound files included in the game......a sound mod perhaps, or a single sound file eg: gunfire.
There is certainly no corrolation in sound files causing save games to be lost (multiple ones at that).
There have been many downloads of the gramaphone files and no reports of it causing game crashes and or loss of game saves.
TBH I don't believe what you are suggesting is possible and has never been reported during literally hundreds and hundreds of hours of testing.
Another point you may want to consider is the fact the game crashed whilst you were surfaced....a possible sign that your machine may be labouring under the extra strain of rendering multiple units within it's SH3 world.
This could be linked to graphics card and or memory issues.
You may want to consider uninstalling all your mods and replacing them one at a time until you replicate the problem.

Come back if you still encounter problems http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Jimbuna
03-10-08, 05:12 PM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.

Some good points.......but who can honestly say what Kaleuns carried in their personal record collections.
Is it too far fetched to imagine some Germans listened to British and American radio broadcasts just as some British listened to German radio broadcasts.
I don't believe there were many Nazis in the Kriegsmarine (certainly less than in the other areas of the German forces) so I like to think some British music would have been listened to. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

Foghladh_mhara
03-10-08, 05:31 PM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.

Some good points.......but who can honestly say what Kaleuns carried in their personal record collections.
Is it too far fetched to imagine some Germans listened to British and American radio broadcasts just as some British listened to German radio broadcasts.
I don't believe there were many Nazis in the Kriegsmarine (certainly less than in the other areas of the German forces) so I like to think some British music would have been listened to. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

You'd be surprised what we listen to onboard U-98. I put a few classical numbers in to my gramophone file to help pass the long patrol hours. Nothing too out of character. I nearly jumped out of my chair afew weeks ago when all of a sudden 'Bombtrack' by Rage against the Machine came out of the speakers. A little present from my brother the git.

Graf Paper
03-10-08, 05:48 PM
"Play the record. You know the one."

:()1:'It's a long way to Tiperrary! It's a looong waaay back hooome!...':()1:

Yep. Must have been composed by some unknown German songwriter. :p



[apologies if I misquoted the first line. I suffer from CRS. :88)]

Sailor Steve
03-10-08, 06:21 PM
[apologies if I misquoted the first line. I suffer from CRS. :88)]
It's a long way to Tiperary, it's a long way to go!
It's a long way to Tiperary, to the sweetest girl I know.
Goodbye Picadilly, farewell Leicester Square;
It's a long, long way to Tiperary, and my heart's right there!

Chisum
03-10-08, 06:34 PM
Thanks to answer Jimbuna.
I thing now that the problem must be probably linked to the graphic card.
It's a new but since I have it I have only trouble everywhere.
It's a "Radeon X1950 pro" but I really don't know what is "pro" in this graphic card...

Damned, 170 $ it's to sad.
:cry:

Chisum
03-10-08, 06:38 PM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.

It's not the question, but sincerly, I don't believe that U-boot crew listened "Horst Vessel lied" 24h per day.
Personnaly I can't do it and I prefer something more sweet but made in 40'/45'.

Pablo
03-10-08, 07:47 PM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.
Hi!

Our research indicated that jazz music was really unpopular with the Nazi heirarchy, but that it was popular with the U-boat crews, who were given something of a dispensation (and a lot of protection from the Gestapo and political education officers) by Dönitz. In the end, it seems that the individual U-boat commanders had great discretion in this area; for example, Werner Henke reportedly had a large collection of Cole Porter records, while Wolfgang Lüth forbade U.S. or British tunes on board.

We cut Ms. Dietrich the same kind of slack, on the assumption that recordings forbidden in Germany could have made their way to France, where U-boat officers could have purchased them between voyages if they chose to do so.

Pablo

moscowexile
03-11-08, 03:23 AM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.
Some good points.......but who can honestly say what Kaleuns carried in their personal record collections.
Is it too far fetched to imagine some Germans listened to British and American radio broadcasts just as some British listened to German radio broadcasts.
I don't believe there were many Nazis in the Kriegsmarine (certainly less than in the other areas of the German forces) so I like to think some British music would have been listened to. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif
I tend to agree with you there as regards the difference between what was forbidden and what actually happened in reality, especially in combat situations.

On the Eastern Front captured members of the SS and Waffen-SS were shot mostly on sight and their activities and possessions minutely analysed by the NKVD. I have seen archives here (Russia) where the NKVD has reported the SS and Wehrmacht troops as possessing US jazz and swing records that must have been brought from Western Europe into the Soviet Union; the NKVD considered such possessions as evidence of disaffection with the German fascist regime as the Nazis classed jazz as "entartete Musik" (degenerate music), as did Stalin and his party faithful: "Socialist Realism" was the name of the game back in the USSR of the 1930s and '40s.

For this reason I include a few "swing" records in my on board gramophone collection.

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!

Just love Glenn Miller!

PS

Even as a lad the lyrics of "Lili Marlene" always puzzled me: who was singing to whom?

A woman vocalist sings: "Underneath the lantern by the barrack gate, darling I remember the way you used to wait...".

The person that waited by the gate was Lili, surely, and not a pining soldier, because it was there that singer states that the person at the gate would whisper tenderly that she would be "my Lili of the Lamplight, my Lili Marlene".

So why does a woman sing the lyrics? Surely a woman should sing words that would run something like: "Underneath the lantern by the barrack gate, darling I remember the way I used to wait..." where "I would whisper tenderly that I would be your Lili of the Lamplight, your Lili Marlene"?

Just wondering, like.

Jimbuna
03-11-08, 06:21 AM
Thanks to answer Jimbuna.
I thing now that the problem must be probably linked to the graphic card.
It's a new but since I have it I have only trouble everywhere.
It's a "Radeon X1950 pro" but I really don't know what is "pro" in this graphic card...

Damned, 170 $ it's to sad.
:cry:

Hope you get it sorted mate http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9026/wolfthumbsuprw5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Tool
03-11-08, 11:18 AM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.

Some good points.......but who can honestly say what Kaleuns carried in their personal record collections.
Is it too far fetched to imagine some Germans listened to British and American radio broadcasts just as some British listened to German radio broadcasts.
I don't believe there were many Nazis in the Kriegsmarine (certainly less than in the other areas of the German forces) so I like to think some British music would have been listened to. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

You'd be surprised what we listen to onboard U-98. I put a few classical numbers in to my gramophone file to help pass the long patrol hours. Nothing too out of character. I nearly jumped out of my chair afew weeks ago when all of a sudden 'Bombtrack' by Rage against the Machine came out of the speakers. A little present from my brother the git.

I switched out all the original tracks for an entire 6 CD boxset from Iron Maiden.. Yea.. maybe not period correct but when they break into 13 minutes of "Rime of the Ancient Mariner", "Where Eagles Dare", or "Trooper", it pretty much sets the mood just right for me. :rock:

Tool.

Jimbuna
03-11-08, 02:37 PM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.

Some good points.......but who can honestly say what Kaleuns carried in their personal record collections.
Is it too far fetched to imagine some Germans listened to British and American radio broadcasts just as some British listened to German radio broadcasts.
I don't believe there were many Nazis in the Kriegsmarine (certainly less than in the other areas of the German forces) so I like to think some British music would have been listened to. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

You'd be surprised what we listen to onboard U-98. I put a few classical numbers in to my gramophone file to help pass the long patrol hours. Nothing too out of character. I nearly jumped out of my chair afew weeks ago when all of a sudden 'Bombtrack' by Rage against the Machine came out of the speakers. A little present from my brother the git.

I switched out all the original tracks for an entire 6 CD boxset from Iron Maiden.. Yea.. maybe not period correct but when they break into 13 minutes of "Rime of the Ancient Mariner", "Where Eagles Dare", or "Trooper", it pretty much sets the mood just right for me. :rock:

Tool.

Whatever floats your boat.....as the saying goes http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1817/thinkbigsw1yo4.gif

Chisum
03-11-08, 04:51 PM
Hey man, you who likes WW2 musics, I just remember a super website than I used 2 years ago.

It's a RAF website(662 sqd) and it gives you many WW2 music witch you can listen directly on the site.
But, as I have done myself, you can recording all with the windows recorder(or other if you have) and after, just paste the file in the gramophone.

There is the link:

http://www.raf662.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10

Enjoy !
;)

Jimbuna
03-11-08, 05:04 PM
It's a site I've use from time to time.....good one http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Chisum
03-12-08, 07:07 AM
I have finally found the song I liked in your files Jimbuna.
But it's named only "639.ogg" and I don't know tittle and artist who sings it.
Can you tell me that please ?

Regards.

;)

Jimbuna
03-12-08, 08:17 AM
I have finally found the song I liked in your files Jimbuna.
But it's named only "639.ogg" and I don't know tittle and artist who sings it.
Can you tell me that please ?

Regards.

;)

Sure....zip it up and PM me a link (FileFront or something similar) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9026/wolfthumbsuprw5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Chisum
03-13-08, 06:30 AM
There is the link Jimbuna:

http://files.filefront.com/Gramo+SH3+639+ogg/;9809145;/fileinfo.html

And thanks again.
;)

Jimbuna
03-13-08, 08:19 AM
There is the link Jimbuna:

http://files.filefront.com/Gramo+SH3+639+ogg/;9809145;/fileinfo.html

And thanks again.
;)

Blues in the Night.......Dinah Shore :up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues_in_the_Night

Chisum
03-13-08, 08:37 AM
Thank you very much !
:up:
Great song I like listen on the moonlight when surfaced for battery.
:cool:

Edit:
wowowo !!!

http://mog.com/pictures/wikipedia/445332/DinahShoreFrom1940s.jpg

Jimbuna
03-13-08, 10:39 AM
Your welcome http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9026/wolfthumbsuprw5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2645/dinah20shore3kx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4527/dinah2zo0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Chisum
03-15-08, 12:47 AM
I get an other good song in my gramophone, named "Barrack's blues" by Joe Teagarden.
But I can't find the lyrics nowhere.
Do you know where I can find it ?

Jimbuna
03-15-08, 06:21 AM
Sorry....you got me there.

Have you tried http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/google.gif

Chisum
03-15-08, 02:09 PM
Yep, nothing.
Very strange.

Jimbuna
03-15-08, 05:56 PM
Hopefully someone will read this and come up with something http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9379/winkbigid2ph3.gif

headcase
03-15-08, 08:35 PM
I get an other good song in my gramophone, named "Barrack's blues" by Joe Teagarden.
But I can't find the lyrics nowhere.
Do you know where I can find it ?

Part of your problem is that it's Jack Teagarden. Smokin 'bone player. But I cant find the lyrics either. The original recording is evidently out of print as well. Inexpensive dowload links.

http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-Sentimental-Journey-WWII-Project-AJM-7001-MP3-Download/10911049.html

http://www.amazon.com/Barracks-Blues/dp/B000V996HI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1205631946&sr=1-1

Jimbuna
03-16-08, 08:55 AM
I get an other good song in my gramophone, named "Barrack's blues" by Joe Teagarden.
But I can't find the lyrics nowhere.
Do you know where I can find it ?

Part of your problem is that it's Jack Teagarden. Smokin 'bone player. But I cant find the lyrics either. The original recording is evidently out of print as well. Inexpensive dowload links.

http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-Sentimental-Journey-WWII-Project-AJM-7001-MP3-Download/10911049.html

http://www.amazon.com/Barracks-Blues/dp/B000V996HI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1205631946&sr=1-1

That first link in particular is much appreciated http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4030/winkbigid2zj6.gif (http://imageshack.us)

headcase
03-16-08, 10:27 AM
I get an other good song in my gramophone, named "Barrack's blues" by Joe Teagarden.
But I can't find the lyrics nowhere.
Do you know where I can find it ?

Part of your problem is that it's Jack Teagarden. Smokin 'bone player. But I cant find the lyrics either. The original recording is evidently out of print as well. Inexpensive dowload links.

http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-Sentimental-Journey-WWII-Project-AJM-7001-MP3-Download/10911049.html

http://www.amazon.com/Barracks-Blues/dp/B000V996HI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1205631946&sr=1-1

That first link in particular is much appreciated http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4030/winkbigid2zj6.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Beware, said link can be addictive. Has been shown to cause you to listen to sweet tunes you never even thought of hearing.

Jimbuna
03-16-08, 10:37 AM
I get an other good song in my gramophone, named "Barrack's blues" by Joe Teagarden.
But I can't find the lyrics nowhere.
Do you know where I can find it ?

Part of your problem is that it's Jack Teagarden. Smokin 'bone player. But I cant find the lyrics either. The original recording is evidently out of print as well. Inexpensive dowload links.

http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-Sentimental-Journey-WWII-Project-AJM-7001-MP3-Download/10911049.html

http://www.amazon.com/Barracks-Blues/dp/B000V996HI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1205631946&sr=1-1

That first link in particular is much appreciated http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4030/winkbigid2zj6.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Beware, said link can be addictive. Has been shown to cause you to listen to sweet tunes you never even thought of hearing.

LOL http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4030/winkbigid2zj6.gif

Sailor Steve
03-16-08, 12:52 PM
Edit:
wowowo !!!

http://mog.com/pictures/wikipedia/445332/DinahShoreFrom1940s.jpg


I believe the correct period comment would be "Hubba hubba!"

Chisum
03-17-08, 03:33 PM
I get an other good song in my gramophone, named "Barrack's blues" by Joe Teagarden.
But I can't find the lyrics nowhere.
Do you know where I can find it ?

Part of your problem is that it's Jack Teagarden. Smokin 'bone player. But I cant find the lyrics either. The original recording is evidently out of print as well. Inexpensive dowload links.

http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-Sentimental-Journey-WWII-Project-AJM-7001-MP3-Download/10911049.html

http://www.amazon.com/Barracks-Blues/dp/B000V996HI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1205631946&sr=1-1

Oye !
Theres is a mistake in the name of my file, downloaded I don't know where...
I still unable to find the lyrics.
But we can listen some songs here:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jack+Teagarden+Orchestra&search_type=

Thanks.

PS: would you I upload the "Barrack' Blues" ?

Antiacus
03-17-08, 11:15 PM
I should think that hearing Vera Lynn warbling away "The White Cliffs of Dover" and "We'll Meet Again" whilst on U-Boot patrol would destroy the "total immersion" factor somewhat; likewise the playing of swing and jazz would have been "streng verboten", I should think, in the Kriegsmarine. The same goes as regards listening to Marlene Dietrich's songs: she had defected to the USA by the time WWII kicked off in Europe and was considered as a traitor by the Nazis after she had done the voice overs for Hollywood produced propaganda films against the Third Reich.

I am not expressing any fascist sympathies here, just thinking of historical accuracy.
Some good points.......but who can honestly say what Kaleuns carried in their personal record collections.
Is it too far fetched to imagine some Germans listened to British and American radio broadcasts just as some British listened to German radio broadcasts.
I don't believe there were many Nazis in the Kriegsmarine (certainly less than in the other areas of the German forces) so I like to think some British music would have been listened to. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif
I tend to agree with you there as regards the difference between what was forbidden and what actually happened in reality, especially in combat situations.

On the Eastern Front captured members of the SS and Waffen-SS were shot mostly on sight and their activities and possessions minutely analysed by the NKVD. I have seen archives here (Russia) where the NKVD has reported the SS and Wehrmacht troops as possessing US jazz and swing records that must have been brought from Western Europe into the Soviet Union; the NKVD considered such possessions as evidence of disaffection with the German fascist regime as the Nazis classed jazz as "entartete Musik" (degenerate music), as did Stalin and his party faithful: "Socialist Realism" was the name of the game back in the USSR of the 1930s and '40s.

For this reason I include a few "swing" records in my on board gramophone collection.

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!

Just love Glenn Miller!

PS

Even as a lad the lyrics of "Lili Marlene" always puzzled me: who was singing to whom?

A woman vocalist sings: "Underneath the lantern by the barrack gate, darling I remember the way you used to wait...".

The person that waited by the gate was Lili, surely, and not a pining soldier, because it was there that singer states that the person at the gate would whisper tenderly that she would be "my Lili of the Lamplight, my Lili Marlene".

So why does a woman sing the lyrics? Surely a woman should sing words that would run something like: "Underneath the lantern by the barrack gate, darling I remember the way I used to wait..." where "I would whisper tenderly that I would be your Lili of the Lamplight, your Lili Marlene"?

Just wondering, like.

I wonder who wrote the song. Perhaps the female vocalist was covering a song written by a man. Or perhaps it was written by the soldier and sung to lilli who eventually recorded it after her man was lost in combat. Call me a romantic, I don't care!

Jimbuna
03-18-08, 03:42 AM
Okay.....Hi romantic :lol:

moscowexile
03-18-08, 04:00 AM
It's a pongo's song, anyway. ("Pongo" - Royal Navy slang for "soldier"; "pong" = stink; "pongo" presumably because sailors wash and combat troops don't.)

Outside naval barracks women usually say: "Hello, sailor!"

So I'm told.

Sailor Steve
03-18-08, 12:14 PM
Outside naval barracks women usually say: "Hello, sailor!"

So I'm told.
Only the ones asking for money up front.:arrgh!:

Von Manteuffel
03-18-08, 02:51 PM
I think it's as simple as the soldier arranged to meet Lili outside his barracks. So it's there he would wait for her. To carry on the romantic theme - it's under the lamp outside the barracks gate that he would first see her approaching - hence Lili of the lamplight. It's also there that they would say goodbye when he had to return to duty.