View Full Version : ATI Users With AGP-Catalyst 8.1 Works!
Seaman_Hornsby
02-05-08, 10:36 PM
Ahoy captains! I apologize in advance if this has been covered, but I found little mention with a forum search, and thought you ATI-equipped skippers ought to know about this.
If you are an ATI user, and like me, you have an older system with an AGP card, you have been stuck with older (7.7 or so) drivers due to broken AGP compatibility. The problem manifests itself by the 3D engine failing to start after installation of the newer drivers, forcing you to roll back and stay with the older ones.
Well, the boys down at AMD/ATI finally got around to issuing a hotfix with version 8.1. So if you are interested, you can get back on the official driver bandwagon with 8.1. I'm running them on my AGP X1600 with no problems. :)
Download page:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31542
Paajtor
02-06-08, 04:06 PM
Good news, thx...been waiting for this (was still running the 7.8's, due to the same AGP-issue).
I have a X850XT.
:up:
Paajtor
03-06-08, 03:08 PM
This issue seems definately solved, with the release of the Cat8.3's.
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonx-xp
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33917908
MONOLITH
03-06-08, 04:22 PM
Hhmmm...somehow I missed all of this.
I think I was on the 7.8 for the last few months, and never bothered to update. I have an X1950 Pro, and figure most of the updates now really only affect the newer cards.
Just last week, I went to the 8.2 when the add on came out, hoping maybe for a sun glare fix.
Never had any AGP issues.
I guess I'll rab the 8.3 now.
MONOLITH
03-06-08, 04:24 PM
This sounds good too...
Digital Panel GPU image scaling
This release of Catalyst™ introduces a new setting that allows users to enable GPU accelerated scaling for Wide aspect LCD displays. The new setting Maintain aspect ratio improves the display resolution image quality when scaling is enable by maintaining the wide panel aspect ratio (stops the image from looking distorted)
Paajtor
03-06-08, 07:42 PM
Yes, about time they got that in.
Btw, I had the AGP-issue...that's why I had to skip 7.9 and 8.0.
I'm find the GPU scaling and LCD overdrive very useful. The overdrive reduces the motion blur even on a 2ms monitor.
-Pv-
:hmm:
Strange, but I had no problems (up to 7.12) with mine ATI R9800 Pro ...
Triad773
03-08-08, 05:07 PM
I tried these on my X1650 Pro 512mb AGP 8x card and got unexpected shut-downs and blue screens. I rolled back to the Powercolor drivers that came on CD with my card, and that fixed it. Something about my configuration it doesn't agree with'd be my guess.
I've enjoyed ATi for years, but the drivers have been hit or miss with my equipment since before they were bought by AMd. I think I will give nVidia a try next time I am upgrading, when ever that is.
Glad its working for you folks though.
Triad
i_b_spectre
03-08-08, 06:49 PM
Anyone tried the Cat 8.1's with a 9800 Pro yet? I've stuck with Cat 4.7's for years because they seemed the most stable with the IL-2 series and work well with SH3 (haven't tried SH4 yet due to older system specs - AMD XP2800 w/ 1.5GB DDR).
Lightning61
03-08-08, 07:38 PM
i just installed the omega version of the 7.12 on my 9800Pro, I'll post back how they act.
8.3 wouldn't even install on my old W2K, but omega will fix that soon ;)
MONOLITH
03-08-08, 08:09 PM
The 8.3s are working good for me, along with the new DirectX release.
I can't find that GPU scaling button in the CCC though. Where is it?
Slick Wilhelm
03-08-08, 10:16 PM
What a timely thread. I just happened to decide to update from the 7.12 catalysts, to the 8.3 today, and upgraded to .NET 2.0 fp1 and the new CCC while I was at it. Everything seems to be working swimmingly on my X850XT.
I'm not positive, but Monolith, I think what you're looking for is on the Digital Panel menu, under attributes. I think it might be "Scale image to full size" that you looking for, if I understand correctly what -Pv- was referring to. I've got an LG 22" WS monitor, so that's what I'm using (1650x1080).
Still hanging in there at around 30 fps using 2xAA and 4xAF.
MONOLITH
03-08-08, 10:25 PM
Still hanging in there at around 30 fps using 2xAA and 4xAF.
Do you have the UBoat Addon? It seems the AA is broken after the addon. Looking for another ATI guy to confirm.
Lightning61
03-08-08, 10:49 PM
for the old 9800/x**** series cards, it seems i've dropped about 4 fps, but image quality does seem to be improved enough to take the hit.
I also run with v-sync on, just too avoid the screwy mouse issues.
Both sets were run with the exact settings i've always used in ATT.
Remember, these aren't the newest ati drivers, just the modded 7.12 from Omegadrive, since standard 8.3 won't install on W2K.
I'm sure omegadrive will remedy this situation just as he has in the past. :)
Another tidbit for those of us running older cards with only 128Mb memory, don't forget to turn the "flip queue size" to zero, (using ATT), and your agp aperture as high as it will go in bios, unless you are short of ram.
Crap, already lost my favorite avatar!
basilio
03-09-08, 06:14 AM
Still hanging in there at around 30 fps using 2xAA and 4xAF.
Do you have the UBoat Addon? It seems the AA is broken after the addon. Looking for another ATI guy to confirm.
I have an ATI x1950 pro with 512 RAM and I have no problems with AA in the expansion, but I'm using the 7.6 drivers, not the last 8.3.
To be sure, launch the game, pause it, then go back to desktop with alt-tab.
Now, with the game still running in background, launch the CCC and then close it.
Go back to game.
I had the same issue (AA seemed not working) but then I solved the problem following the above procedure.
A second solution is to create, from CCC, a profile for SHIV.
Hope it helps!
MONOLITH
03-09-08, 09:11 AM
Ok Basilio, I'll give that a try. Thanks.
Just for reference, look at these....
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=800313&postcount=132
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=800875&postcount=140
:hmm:
Strange, but I had no problems (up to 7.12) with mine ATI R9800 Pro ...
Has tried standard 8.3...
My ATI R9800 Pro works also as well as with the previous versions ... no prob's ...
P.S. MoB ASUS P4P800 Deluxe ...
danlisa
03-09-08, 12:43 PM
Do you have the UBoat Addon? It seems the AA is broken after the addon. Looking for another ATI guy to confirm.
DEBUNKED!:lol:
Ati x800Pro + Omega Drivers
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/AAComparison.jpg
MONOLITH
03-09-08, 05:34 PM
Ati x800Pro + Omega Drivers
Good. I'm more than happy to know it wasn't a change to the game.
I guess the next suspect is the 8.3 drivers. I'll load a previous driver and see.
Thanks danlisa.
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