Add On Release Date, Boxshot, Plus new screenshots!

[TDK1044]

It's coming, folks.

http://www.tothegame.com/boxshot.asp?picnum=uk&id=7409

Release date Feb 26th (US) Feb 28th (UK)

New screenshots:

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon2.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon1.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon3.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon4.jpg

[Torps]

Yah I can see some of Daves earlier work in those pics.

[M. Sarsfield]

Check out the screenies on Gamespot. There's one nice interior view. The water is definitely ala LeoVampire.

[LukeFF]

Nice!

A couple of things I noticed:

On the box cover, there looks to be a Beaufighter in the upper-left hand corner of the screen. Might some new aircraft models be coming?
One of the bridge watch crewman looks to be wearing shorts! Nice little touch there.

[M. Sarsfield]

Yeah. Lots of nice eye candy. Mayeb this is Ubi's way of getting the SHIII hold-outs to transition to SHIV. They said that there won't be any Wolfpacks, but they are keeping it in mind for future sub sims. At least you can call in air support and coordinate with auxilliary cruisers (aka flaklighters).

[elanaiba]

On the box cover, there looks to be a Beaufighter in the upper-left hand corner of the screen. Might some new aircraft models be coming?

Good eyes!

[TDK1044]

If you look in the credit list when the Add On is released, I believe you'll see Dave's name listed. :D

[Q3ark]

Those u boats look very detailed. I hope the stock game will be recieving the same treatment with this addon

[Q3ark]

If you look in the credit list when the Add On is released, I believe you'll see Dave's name listed. :D

That's good to see. I like it when game companies recognise talented modders by including their work in official updates and addons

[AVGWarhawk]

If you look in the credit list when the Add On is released, I believe you'll see Dave's name listed. :D


Now isn't that great! Nice of UBI to do that. UBI gets my vote.:up:

[TDK1044]

Dave had a good relationship with these Devs. there was plenty of respect in both directions. :D

[tater]

The plane on the box art has d-day stripes.

[Q3ark]

The plane on the box art has d-day stripes.

Oh yeah. Never noticed that. Good eyes ya got there.

Not sure about this but after d-day I think they kept the stripes, or maby thay just didn't bother to paint over them again.

[tater]

Not anywhere but the ETO they didn't. Aircraft in other theaters never had them in the first place.

tater

[bookworm_020]

On the box cover, there looks to be a Beaufighter in the upper-left hand corner of the screen. Might some new aircraft models be coming

I noticed that too when I saw the box cover, I wonder if they will add in other aircraft that are missing and remove the ones that shouldn't be there?

[Friedl9te]

I hope UBI will finally add the Atlantic Theatre as well with another Mission DVD.

[ReallyDedPoet]

If you look in the credit list when the Add On is released, I believe you'll see Dave's name listed. :D

Now isn't that great! Nice of UBI to do that. UBI gets my vote.:up:

ditto, nice work UBI :up::up:


RDP

[Alex]

I hope UBI will finally add the Atlantic Theatre as well with another Mission DVD.

:hmm:

:p :ping:

[GlobalExplorer]

I hope UBI will finally add the Atlantic Theatre as well with another Mission DVD.

This might sound like a stupid question but Pacific was in SHIII so why should the Atlantic not be in SHIV?

I cant help it, but I believe with the addon the devs want to help us in the inevitable conversion of SHIII into SHIV:

1. Convince UBI that an addon is necessary.
2. Add some playable U-Boats so the community can build the Atlantic

I mean do you realize with the U-Boats the future conversion of SHIV is almost definite?

It just sucks there is no type VII.

[gimpy117]

New screenshots:

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon2.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon1.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon3.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon4.jpg
Oh boy!! more models to grab!!! start your Gmax silent hunter 3 mods workshop!

[silent killer]

TDK when will it be availible on subsim:D

[Spike88]

Woah, did the Kiegsmarine wear shorts?

And Hott damn, its beautiful.

[kiwi_2005]

:rock::()1::lurk:

[Wilcke]

...gonna require a third install....

[Rockin Robbins]

What an incredible shot! It has Dave Bunnell written all over it. But what detail on the U-Boat! Ubi already had my vote for removing Sony Garbagewear "copy protection" from SH4 and the excellence of patch 1.3. They've earned my cash and they'll get it.:up:

[Spike88]

Only problem I have was that there was like 9 U-Boats in the Indian ocean, and like 3 of those sunk.

[Donner]

Woah, did the Kiegsmarine wear shorts?

Yes, they wore shorts in the warmer climes!

I shamelessly pull a photo from my U-boat autograph collection. :D Here is an signed photo Rolf-Werner Wentz sent to me through our correspondence some years ago. This is was taken in the "Med" while he served has I.WO (Erster Wachoffizier) on U 380 in the summer of 1943.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i262/Kaleun/rwwentz.jpg

[Spike88]

Even with that picture I cant imagine it. I always think of people in unfiroms with pants. Especially the Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, and other german armed forces of the time.

[rik007]

I hope UBI will finally add the Atlantic Theatre as well with another Mission DVD.

This might sound like a stupid question but Pacific was in SHIII so why should the Atlantic not be in SHIV?

I cant help it, but I believe with the addon the devs want to help us in the inevitable conversion of SHIII into SHIV:

1. Convince UBI that an addon is necessary.
2. Add some playable U-Boats so the community can build the Atlantic

I mean do you realize with the U-Boats the future conversion of SHIV is almost definite?

It just sucks there is no type VII.

Of course we should! My idea is that Ubi already know that the Atlantic theatre sells better than the Pacific. But if they discuss that now nobody will buy the add-on as everybody will wait untill the full Atlantic one. The pictures look great! Certainly the latest. Love to buy this add-on!

[LukeFF]

Even with that picture I cant imagine it. I always think of people in unfiroms with pants. Especially the Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, and other german armed forces of the time.

Mediterreanean and the Indian Ocean = warm climates...

[Fincuan]

Looks great, but I really wish they would stop mixing renders with real screenshots(shot #4 vs. the other shots). Might even be a u-boat model pasted on a real pic :lol:

[hyperion2206]

Looks great, but I really wish they would stop mixing renders with real screenshots(shot #4 vs. the other shots). Might even be a u-boat model pasted on a real pic :lol:

Exactly what I thought. Pic 4 doesn't look like an ingame shot, but it looks great nevertheless.:D

[Tobus]

If you look in the credit list when the Add On is released, I believe you'll see Dave's name listed. :D

If that's the case, than UBI gets a clean slate with me regarding all the bugridden but excellent games they brought on the market the last couple of years.

[Fincuan]

Pic 4 doesn't look like an ingame shot, but it looks great nevertheless.:D

That I can't deny :up:

[Anblasen]

I can hardly wait

[TDK1044]

TDK when will it be availible on subsim:D

Once Neal has come to an arrangement regarding the Add On, he'll post the link. You may see it available for pre order on the gaming sites, but you'll get it just as fast here and you'll be helping subsim. :D

[stuntcow]

Looks like fun to me. Another many hours lost in front of my comp screen.... Oh well.:D

[Snakeeyes]

I still don't see the point of putting the Germans into that theater of war but... HEY! Any new subsims are GOOD thing!!

I think someone at Ubisoft Romania just wanted to see what U-boats would look like in SHIV's engine.

[hyperion2206]

Pic 4 doesn't look like an ingame shot, but it looks great nevertheless.:D
That I can't deny :up:

So we can agree that we agree. Great!:lol:

[hyperion2206]

I still don't see the point of putting the Germans into that theater of war but...

Just to proof that Germans can lose everywhere!:rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

I can hardly wait
WELCOME ABOARD, Anblasen!:sunny:

[Wilcke]

Yes they are going to lose again! I do not see the point to this addon! But hey I am going to throw my $$ at it anyway and setup a third install.

What is up with pic#4, ugly, the ocean looks like cottage cheese that has been sitting in a dark damp place for 2 weeks!

Now we get to sink some German subs! Hopefully! Or is this wishful thinking on my part?

[Nuc]

What is up with pic#4, ugly, the ocean looks like cottage cheese that has been sitting in a dark damp place for 2 weeks!



I think pic #4 is a photo of a scale model on base with water made of epoxy or something. :hmm:

[FIREWALL]

I can hardly wait


Welcome Matey :D

And your right , I can hardly wait too. :yep:

[swdw]

The water ripple in that last shot is REALLY nice.


Originally Posted by Friedl9te
I hope UBI will finally add the Atlantic Theatre as well with another Mission DVD. I'd much rather see British boats in the Med and Pacific as the next add on
:yep:

[Seadogs]

What is up with pic#4, ugly, the ocean looks like cottage cheese that has been sitting in a dark damp place for 2 weeks!



I think pic #4 is a photo of a scale model on base with water made of epoxy or something. :hmm:

Me thinks CGI cut-scene/intro.

[Alex]

What is up with pic#4, ugly, the ocean looks like cottage cheese that has been sitting in a dark damp place for 2 weeks!



I think pic #4 is a photo of a scale model on base with water made of epoxy or something. :hmm:

Maybe no more than a real life plastic model photoshopped into a RL photo of the ocean.

:hmm:

[Crimguy]

I'd like to see the dutch subs O-19 and O-20. Since we're staying in the Pacific and all . . .

[M. Sarsfield]

... Jap subs, too.

[stabiz]

Yes, we would like to see all kinds of subs, but UBI want to sell copies. And thanks to Das Boot most want to ride along in a iron coffin.

Give me the VIIC!

[SteamWake]

Looks good cant wait (what do you mean I have to :shifty: )

Im wondering though. Why is this 'launch' announced on some third party website ?

There is no real mention of it other than the question / answer thing on the 'offical' site. I also havent seen it mentioned on vendor sites (such as eb games).

[AVGWarhawk]

Developer is active on the UBI forum and has responded to some despondent SH4 players....it is coming.

[Stealth Hunter]

Looks REALLY good. Can't wait for the release.

[NAZ2222]

Really looking forward to this expansion, I dont dig american as mutch as u-boot's! about that 4# image, I made a new version less bloom and better colors in my opinion! enjoy

great wallpaper material: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/112496_SH4addon4bd.jpg (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/112496/SH4addon4bd.jpg.html)

[cappy70]

Looks really nice,,,,,:D :D

[Greentimbers]

NAZ2222, really like your version of picture # 4, it is now my wallpaper:up:

[Crimguy]

Yes, we would like to see all kinds of subs, but UBI want to sell copies. And thanks to Das Boot most want to ride along in a iron coffin.

Give me the VIIC!

I'm with you. I like the American stuff, but want the German boats.

I think the progression of difficulty for the Germans makes for a more interesting game.

[OuNiS]

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon4.jpg

Wonderful!

[Shiplord]

Open the last screen with a Exif Reader an you can see it's created and manipulated with Photoshop CS3, all the other screens have no Exif header included which indicate that these other screens are taken directly from the game/intro movie.

I rent the AddOn first from my DVD rental store to see if it convinces me before I made a decission to buy it. Ubisoft has disappointed me to much over the last years, particularly their customer support/hotline here in Germany.

[Bulkhead]

Is it possible to get a e-mail when it comes out? Newsletter or someting? Unpatient me.....

[Bulkhead]

Check out the screenies on Gamespot. There's one nice interior view. The water is definitely ala LeoVampire.
I cant fint it.... You have a link?

[Nisgeis]

I cant fint it.... You have a link?

Try this:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/sim/silenthunterwolvesofthepacificuboatmissions/images.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gsimage&tag=images;all

Nisgeis.

[me262]

How does that song go,....Spring time for Donitz, and Germany:D:D:D:D:D, I will have to now cleanup my sh4 cd as I have used it as a stand for my coffee cup while playing GWX. I would rather have a VIIC than a boat put in for the First Person Shooters.

[NAZ2222]

NAZ2222, really like your version of picture # 4, it is now my wallpaper:up:

Thankx, I wish I could reduce the back sun, but it makes the image looks strange when I do.
And guess what, it's my wallpaper too :yep:

[Elder-Pirate]

Not a bad pic fpr the U-Boat.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/Uboatinterior.jpg


Really though all I want to do is send it to Davey Jones. :arrgh!:



Sorry but I like my American subs. :yep:


OK OK if your gonna gang up on me I'll buy it. :o :D

[EinsteinEP]

The plane on the box art has d-day stripes.
Oh yeah. Never noticed that. Good eyes ya got there.

Not sure about this but after d-day I think they kept the stripes, or maby thay just didn't bother to paint over them again.
Ha! Only a subsimmer would critically evaluate the historical accuracy of THE BOX the game comes in! I *love* it!

[Q3ark]

Ha! Only a subsimmer would critically evaluate the historical accuracy of THE BOX the game comes in! I *love* it!

Dunno what you mean :shifty:.

:lol: Well we gotta make sure they get it right

[donw]

NAZ2222, really like your version of picture # 4, it is now my wallpaper:up:

:) Couldn't resist..me too! Great job NAZ :up:

[bertle]

Only problem I have was that there was like 9 U-Boats in the Indian ocean, and like 3 of those sunk.

I'm a great fan of "what if" scenerios so for me they can do what they like as long as the actual u-boat and combat is realistic. Unrealistic force numbers and logistics is a sacrifice for fun. I certainly enjoyed the fact that Japan had 500 battleships in SHIV because it meant I got to sink them.

[mookiemookie]

Hey mang, she's-a lookin pretty sharp!

[bigboywooly]

Only problem I have was that there was like 9 U-Boats in the Indian ocean, and like 3 of those sunk.


http://uboat.net/ops/monsun2.htm

http://uboat.net/ops/monsun3.htm

Slightly more than 9 there methinks

[SS-18rider]

Why are they mixing pictures like this with the screenshots? Is It for making people belive that they are screenshots from the game? That the water actually look like that, pooring of the sub when surfacing....hmmm

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=943866&img=13&sid=undefined

I don´t like it :nope: ...

[simsurfer]

Check out the screenies on Gamespot. There's one nice interior view. The water is definitely ala LeoVampire.

Got a link?

[tomoose]

Are the last remaing bugs going to be fixed in the Add-on?? It would be nice to tidy up those little "loose ends" finally.
i.e.
the redundant pop-up chrono during TC,
the destroyer collision sound for the rubber dinghy,
the dive plane graphics glitch,
etc.

Just curious.

[NAZ2222]

NAZ2222, really like your version of picture # 4, it is now my wallpaper:up:

:) Couldn't resist..me too! Great job NAZ :up:

Thankx :up: , I made a nice sunset version too, if anyone wants, here it is http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/116861_SH4addon4bdt.jpg (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/116861/SH4addon4bdt.jpg.html) :sunny: !

[Viliotti]

Great add on! :rock:

U-boat rlz!

[cappy70]

Hi

With DX10 they can really make water look like water, even more than before,,like in "Crysis", even in DX9 it is so close to "CGI-water".

Soo that 4th pic.,, I don't know,,we might be in for a surprise...:lol:

[XLjedi]

Holding my breath to see if they modelled the German TDC similar to SH3.

Man I hate that PK interface... :down:

[elanaiba]

What do you take us for ? :stare:

[stabiz]

:rotfl:

[SS-18rider]

What do you take us for ? :stare:

Yeah, me eating pizza right now for getting ever smarter, and I´m talking right 2 you...

[elanaiba]

?!

I was not putting down the poster, it was all in jest 'cause of course the u-boats TDC functions like the SH3 tdc :)

[SS-18rider]

?!

I was not putting down the poster, it was all in jest 'cause of course the u-boats TDC functions like the SH3 tdc :)

Well then Sir, I´m sorry if I missunderstood You. I´m not as agressive as it may look and I was eating pizza. But your answer suited my poster aswell to....:dead:

I´ll go for a shower now...

[XLjedi]

What do you take us for ? :stare:

OK then... I'll be among the first to plunk down my dollar votes. :yep:

Are there any tweaks to the American PK that might also make it less restrictive to use? I'd just like to have unrestricted access to the TDC range dial. For some reason I'm first forced to use the stad just to get a usable limit on the dial that I can adjust. I also really miss having easy access to those dials on the Attack Map!

[stabiz]

Cant wait for this baby to hit the shelves!:rock:

[Q3ark]

Cant wait for this baby to hit the shelves!:rock:

Looking forward to it also. Not too interested in u boats, but would like to play with the type XXI or whatever it is.

I hope the expansion has some updates to the original game too. It's the perfect oportunity to add some more stuff like FM sonar (for mine detection), better radar as it's impossible to get accurate range info at the moment and fix some bugs that moders are unable.

That would be cool, please.....please pretty please:cry:

[M. Sarsfield]

Are there any tweaks to the American PK that might also make it less restrictive to use? I'd just like to have unrestricted access to the TDC range dial. For some reason I'm first forced to use the stad just to get a usable limit on the dial that I can adjust. I also really miss having easy access to those dials on the Attack Map!

Agreed. I miss having access to the various TDC dials like in SH1. Even if it was a 2D screen, it would be nice to see the whole computer or enough of the dials to change want we want to.

[nuam]

'Looking forward to it also. Not too interested in u boats, but would like to play with the type XXI or whatever it is.'

It will be the "Uboottyp XVIII", a Walter design with great potential that were cancelled in favour of the XXI electro boat who was extremely similar in appearance and size, but with conventional propulsion.

It will be a tactical challenge to take in charge this prototype and... test it in combat situations...;)

[Q3ark]

The type XVIII was to be powered by hydrogen peroxide and supposedly very fast under water. Oooh this is gunna be fun, no more sneaking around at 3 kts to preserve battery power. Also was thinking, a boat like this could be used as a base to mod in early cold war desil and nuke boats :arrgh!:

[TheSatyr]

Nice,but will not buy it unless they are adding things to the Japanese and Allied sides as well.

Frankly,I'm sick of U-Boats. I'd much rather see An add on based on British,Japanese or Italian subs. Personal feeling is that U-Boats have been done to death and something new needs to be done instead.

[Sailor Steve]

Disagree. SH3 needs to be brought up to SH4 standards first. I'll be glad to see British, Dutch, Italian and Japanese subs, and surface ships after that. The modelling will require a lot of new research, and who's going to pay the voice actors?

[nuam]

The type XVIII was to be powered by hydrogen peroxide and supposedly very fast under water. Oooh this is gunna be fun, no more sneaking around at 3 kts to preserve battery power. Also was thinking, a boat like this could be used as a base to mod in early cold war desil and nuke boats :arrgh!:


The type XVIII is still a classic sub with classic diesel-electric engines, backed by an revolutionary propulsion. Compared with nuclear subs you still have limited underwater capability. The peroxide propulsion can be used only to gain an tactical vantage or to escape from an unsafe position.

[longam]

The type XVIII was to be powered by hydrogen peroxide and supposedly very fast under water. Oooh this is gunna be fun, no more sneaking around at 3 kts to preserve battery power. Also was thinking, a boat like this could be used as a base to mod in early cold war desil and nuke boats :arrgh!:


The type XVIII is still a classic sub with classic diesel-electric engines, backed by an revolutionary propulsion. Compared with nuclear subs you still have limited underwater capability. The peroxide propulsion can be used only to gain an tactical vantage or to escape from an unsafe position.

It is a big boat. 17 knots submerged cool. http://uboat.net/types/xviii.htm

[XLjedi]

I've sorta resigned myself to the fact that I can't really play SH4, at all, with my current system specs (kinda sad when SH3 runs so fluidly). Just too much of a slow choppy mess.

But I plan to buy this addon as soon as it's released just to show my support for the continued effort!

Keep those sub sims and add-ons a commin! :up:

(eventually my system specs will catch up)

[deepboat]

I've sorta resigned myself to the fact that I can't really play SH4, at all, with my current system specs (kinda sad when SH3 runs so fluidly). Just too much of a slow choppy mess.

But I plan to buy this addon as soon as it's released just to show my support for the continued effort!

Keep those sub sims and add-ons a commin! :up:

(eventually my system specs will catch up) Can't agree more! I've holding off buying SH IV due to my puny X600 card, but me thinks a new card, game and the add-on are in the works.:rock:

[hellas1]

Hello all, :|\\

I was wondering if this new expansion for SH 4 means that somehow SH 3 is going to get a MEGA patch of sorts to bring it up to SH 4 specs.

Regards, hellas1 :|\\

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh...... for SH 4 expansion!
:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello
Yesterday updated my box to be ready for SH4 addon.:D :D
Quad CPU Q6600 2,4Ghz. Go stepping. 4gt ram. abit ip35 pro off limits. Ati radeon HD 3780.:up: :up:
Vista home basic.:nope:
Why??:hmm: vista home basic = less vista you have= better.:yep: :yep:
This is not for max power but long time current rig = quad cpu + ati is dx10.1 ready + (vista :doh: :dead: :88) ).
vista tip. if you update date in you new box before you activate vista,
vista claims that you have pirated it. (date was 2007 changed to 2008.)

[dcb]

Hello all, :|\\

I was wondering if this new expansion for SH 4 means that somehow SH 3 is going to get a MEGA patch of sorts to bring it up to SH 4 specs.


No way you'll see that. No company will resurrect a long-gone installment in a franchise and put money in developing it. Beating a dead horse, you know? ;)
But, OTOH, modding an Atlantic campaign for SH4 with the tools brought by the add-on is most feasible IMO and I think/hope it will be done somwhere in the future.

[capthelm]

wish they would model a destroyer , bring back great multiplayer action

uboat v destroyer multiplayer games...after this addon i say start modelling ships

[sonar732]

I also think that they need to have an updated Destroyer Command in the works. Look at all that has been done on the WW2 submarine warfare side in the past couple of years. Not only that, but the DC website is still going after 2002 and a Ubisoft emblem is on the bottom of the page!

[Torps]

Nice,but will not buy it unless they are adding things to the Japanese and Allied sides as well.

Frankly,I'm sick of U-Boats. I'd much rather see An add on based on British,Japanese or Italian subs. Personal feeling is that U-Boats have been done to death and something new needs to be done instead.

I agree. I think I been every u-boat number from U67 to U1200:huh: . For me its time to move on. The Pacific was a huge conflict, at this point I find it more practical to add ships and subs to the pacific.

The US had 199 cruisers, battleships and aircraft carriers alone. Approx 1635 warships total. That does not include merchents in anyway, that does not include the japanese in anyway, nor the Brits or the Dutch. So yah we need ships added to the Pacific really bad.

[Faamecanic]

Disagree. SH3 needs to be brought up to SH4 standards first. I'll be glad to see British, Dutch, Italian and Japanese subs, and surface ships after that. The modelling will require a lot of new research, and who's going to pay the voice actors?

Unless they have done some MAJOR work with SH4 (espeically the AI and the never ending same mission assignments over and over) I doubt I will be buying this. Of course I have havent tried the latest patch with SH4 yet being as by the time Ubi released this patch, I had already uninstalled SH4 and went back to SH3 to play GWX 1.0 and 1.03...

[John Channing]

They have already done the MAJOR work with 1.4 You just don't know it yet!

:)

JCC

[Q3ark]

They have already done the MAJOR work with 1.4 You just don't know it yet!

:)

JCC

What exactly do you mean by that? Alterations to the game engine?

[XLjedi]

They have already done the MAJOR work with 1.4 You just don't know it yet!

:)

JCC

What exactly do you mean by that? Alterations to the game engine?


He means, they've squashed most (if not all) of the egregious bugs...

I'm hoping for a few game engine improvements in the add-on myself. For the way I like to play, the SH4 game engine isn't very playable. In particular the TDC/PK interface. ...and the attack map seems to serve absolutely no purpose without easy access to the TDC dials.

I got this feeling like in SH3 there was a general idea behind how the developers thought the gamer should do manual targetting. A lot of people learned how the TDC worked and came up with their own alternative methods. Then in SH4 it was almost like, this time we'll force you to do it our way... or at least it feels a little more restricted.

[capthelm]

any more news and new screenshots on the addon?:p

[SgtWalt65]

:D

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112406

[SgtWalt65]

Even with that picture I cant imagine it. I always think of people in unfiroms with pants. Especially the Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, and other german armed forces of the time.

I have the "Pik-As" JG-53 fighter squadron books, Vol. 1,2 & 3 and they have Luft pilots with shorts and ground crew as well. In the Italy, North Africa, Southern France and Some of SE Europe AO against US and British aircraft. Only in Vol. 2 & 3, because Vol. 1 was pretty much Pre-US entiring into the war and thus mostly pre-North Africa. North Africa didn't really get much attention in the series until Vol. 2 and ended with the fall of Italy in Vol. 2.
Each book is still in print btw for USD $89.95 each. Very detailed history of "The Pikas" Bf-109 squadron during WW2. Each volume being about 350+ pages in hardback with well over 700 B&W and Color pictures in each book.
Its stunning the German accounts of the beating they took at the hands of tactical bombers on the German airfields and the name they called these attacks. They called them the "Reich Party Day" and that was not a term of endearment. Particularlly good read was the description about what one German fighter pilot sitting on the beach getting some sun said about the wave of 200+ USAAF B-25's wave hopping over the ocean without warning to bomb there airfield and another alternate field nearby and destroy about 90+ just delivered that very day, new Bf-109's and over 300 personal ( mostly ground crew but about 20 pilots where also killed in this attack ).
In Vol. 2, about 4 months of the war are missing due to the fact that while withdrawing from Italy a JU-52 that was carrying some of the units records was shot down and destroyed, taking those records with it.

Sorry for getting off topic. On pain killers right now for a pulled back muscle....lol. Sucks getting old

http://www.schifferbooks.com/newschiffer/book_template.php?isbn=0764301756

http://www.schifferbooks.com/newschiffer/book_template.php?isbn=0764302922

http://www.schifferbooks.com/newschiffer/book_template.php?isbn=0764305565

[hellas1]

Hello all, :|\\

I couldn't help but ask:

Now that this u-boat add on is out, What will happen with SH3?

SH4 vs. SH3 is quite different.

Just what will happen to SH3, IF anything, to bring it up to SH4 snuff?

Thanks and much obliged,
hellas1 :|\\

U boats in the Pacific? YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH............
:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:

[LukeFF]

Now that this u-boat add on is out, What will happen with SH3?

SH4 vs. SH3 is quite different.

Just what will happen to SH3, IF anything, to bring it up to SH4 snuff?

Absolutely nothing. Ubi doesn't support it any more.

[XLjedi]

Long as 1) the VIIC is absent as well as Atlantic ops... and 2) there are folks like me draggin their feet over thousand dollar upgrades, I don't see SH3 fading into obscurity anytime soon. More likely the death of it will come as systems transition to 64bit and/or folks get tired of perpetuating Star Force.

Personally, I'm just now having to redo my system after a HD crash... couple new drives and so forth. For the first time, I'm actually considering not even inserting that SH3 disk just to not have SF on the system. I may look around for that DL version I've heard of... if it's still for purchase that is. Even years later, still a little touchey about what SF did to my optical drive.

[prologos]

U boats in the Pacific? YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH............
:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:


I concure!!! :up:

p.s. patrida!!!:D

[Ivan Putski]

I`ve got both SHIII, and SHIV, so I won`t be getting it, also with GWX team getting ready to release an update, and OLG`s new GUI update not to mention J C Wolfs new U-Boat addon, and playable S-Boats, new skins, and a campaign for the S-Boat in the works. GWX has given SHIII a Black sea Campaign, and Indian Ocean Campaign, and a new Med Campaign so I`ll be enjoying both sims for a long time. The Starforce issue screwed up my drives, but there has been a workaround out for ages now.:up:

[Extra Ketchup]

Has anyone mentioned the price? Did I miss it? I'm just wondering how much the addon will cost.

Also, I wonder if it will require mods to be uninstalled and reinstalled? I would assume so (similar to a patch, yes?).

[maerean_m]

the add-on is a big 1.5 patch.

[TDK1044]

the add-on is a big 1.5 patch.


Meaning treat it like a huge patch and uninstall all current mods and wait for new compatible mods to be created, Mihai? Or are there tweaks and fixes included with the new features?

[hyperion2206]

the add-on is a big 1.5 patch.

Meaning treat it like a huge patch and uninstall all current mods and wait for new compatible mods to be created, Mihai? Or are there tweaks and fixes included with the new features?

I hope for the poor modders that the patch 1.5 will be compatible with the major mods. Otherwise they've got busy weeks ahead of them.:lol:

[Alex]

:huh:

:hmm:

[Wilcke]

Yes, this addon is a big bugaboo for me, be assured it will break every major mod that I use on my two installs. I do not think that Ducimus is going to update TM Overhaul to 1.5, could I be wrong?

Time will tell, I plan on buying it and running it over a new install, #3. This is starting to get silly, this sub addiction.

Now is this Addon/Patch going to be cumulative or do you have to lay it over the top of a fresh 1.4?

[Alex]

I do not think that Ducimus is going to update TM Overhaul to 1.5, could I be wrong?

Yes Sir, I think you're wrong. :p (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131209)

[Wilcke]

I do not think that Ducimus is going to update TM Overhaul to 1.5, could I be wrong?

Yes Sir, I think you're wrong. :p (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131209)


Yes, I know he is still working on TM and I am using his latest version Overhaul. I am implying that he may not update TM to work with the Addon. I know that in his posts he was adamant about not getting the Addon. But again I could be wrong. Sorry my post above was not clear.

[TDK1044]

Yes, this addon is a big bugaboo for me, be assured it will break every major mod that I use on my two installs. I do not think that Ducimus is going to update TM Overhaul to 1.5, could I be wrong?

Time will tell, I plan on buying it and running it over a new install, #3. This is starting to get silly, this sub addiction.

Now is this Addon/Patch going to be cumulative or do you have to lay it over the top of a fresh 1.4?

Treat it like a patch 1.5. The Add On contains the first four patches and can therefore either be added to a clean version of SH4 or to a patched version of the game.

[MLF]

[quote
Treat it like a patch 1.5. The Add On contains the first four patches and can therefore either be added to a clean version of SH4 or to a patched version of the game.[/quote]

On the ubisoft site there is mention only of patches 1.1 and 1.2. Where are 1.3 and 1.4? I'm an SH3 die-hard, but if Uboats are surfacing in SHIV then I will give it a whirl.

MLF

[Alex]

I do not think that Ducimus is going to update TM Overhaul to 1.5, could I be wrong?

Yes Sir, I think you're wrong. :p (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131209)


Yes, I know he is still working on TM and I am using his latest version Overhaul. I am implying that he may not update TM to work with the Addon. I know that in his posts he was adamant about not getting the Addon. But again I could be wrong. Sorry my post above was not clear.

Don't be sorry sorry, mate...
In my humble opinion, Ducimus will certainly update TM, taking in consideration new improvements from the u-boot missions add-on (such as the ability to control surface units)... It would be quite weird from him not to enjoy the new improvements included in the add-on just because he prefers the Pacific ocean. :88)

But well... Let's wait and see. ;)

[TDK1044]

[quote
Treat it like a patch 1.5. The Add On contains the first four patches and can therefore either be added to a clean version of SH4 or to a patched version of the game.

On the ubisoft site there is mention only of patches 1.1 and 1.2. Where are 1.3 and 1.4? I'm an SH3 die-hard, but if Uboats are surfacing in SHIV then I will give it a whirl.

MLF[/quote]

http://www.ubi.com/US/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=2172

You only need patch 1.4

[MLF]

Thanks TDK1044

MLF

[Wilcke]

I do not think that Ducimus is going to update TM Overhaul to 1.5, could I be wrong?

Yes Sir, I think you're wrong. :p (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131209)


Yes, I know he is still working on TM and I am using his latest version Overhaul. I am implying that he may not update TM to work with the Addon. I know that in his posts he was adamant about not getting the Addon. But again I could be wrong. Sorry my post above was not clear.

Don't be sorry sorry, mate...
In my humble opinion, Ducimus will certainly update TM, taking in consideration new improvements from the u-boot missions add-on (such as the ability to control surface units)... It would be quite weird from him not to enjoy the new improvements included in the add-on just because he prefers the Pacific ocean. :88)

But well... Let's wait and see. ;)

You will have to buy Ducimus a copy!

"I think the BIGGEST difference (and im making a WILD guess here) between RFB and TM will be after the Uboat add on is released. There will be fixes to the base game in the add on most assuredly, and it will require some work to get the mods compatible to the base game post uboat add on. (hypothetically speaking sh4 version 1.5).

Here is where the biggest difference will come into play. Im quite sure RFB will be made compatible with it. TM however, will not be. Unless a copy of the uboat add on magically appears on my doorstep, i will not be getting a copy. How can i make compatible to that which i don't own? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif I suspect that the addon will contain some stuff that will make it irresistable, which will make the majority of users shift away from sh4 ver 1.4. So under that scenario, RFB will be your only choice in the future."

[Alex]

Edit ---

[XLjedi]

So it's still on for Tuesday then?

I'll pick one up...

[Wilcke]

Edited

Worried I am not. come on man have some class. Pay to play, its what keeps folks kids fed. I just do not understand this type of logic. I get hundreds of hours of enjoyment from the PC titles I buy. Its cheap entertainment compared to anything else.

[MONOLITH]

I think you've just misunderstood me, Sir. We were talking about Ducimus, you know... If you want to talk, just PM me. ;)

Nothing to misunderstand.

You clearly said he wouldn't buy it, but he would steal it.

And you trash the man in public, but you want the rebuttle to be in a PM.


Check yourself.

[Alex]

You're right, Sir. TM is a great mod which I respect, and could get even better updated with new improvements coming from this add-on, but as the man doesn't want to pay Ubisoft for an add-on letting the player take control of a u-boot, he's probably going to update TM without having to buy it.
I do not trash the man in public. Ducimus has been my friend for quite a long moment, at least I thought he was (our friendship ended the day I put the GWX ban in my signature on here :roll:). And it will never be my intention to trash him in public : my only intention is to say the truth. U-boote missions will be just like a 1.5 patch. So in all honesty, I don't see a reason why TM shouldn't be updated, and I truly believe what I've just said.

[kiborg]

Hi all! There are new screens? (О я типа англичанин).:smug:

[DeepIron]

Title sez it. Is there anything in 1.5 that would enhance my playing experience in SH4 in the PTO? I'm not interested in U-Boats at all (no offense to those who are). Any new shipping, IJN vessels or aircraft etc. that would be relevant to the US PTO experience?

We have TM, RSRD, ROW and a whole slew of other great PTO mods for free now...

[JREX53]

I agree with DeepIron.

I have no desire to see u-boats in the Pacific. It would have been more relevent if the devs had made an addon which included Japanese subs, then I would be more inclined to buy the addon.

My request from the devs is: to come out with a patch for any improvements they have made to the base came, so that people, like me, that don't want to purchase the addon can still get the game improvements.

[Onkel Neal]

I agree, I would have been much more interested had Japanese subs been added, both AI subs in the dynamic campaign for the US sub player to worry about/attack and controllables.

[kriller2]

I have the new SH4 Uboat missions ! It's a nice addon much better graphics for the german subs! and you have the ability to command naval and air units as you progress in the German campaign. will post some screenshots of it later.. :cool: I stumbled on the game yesterday at the local games-shop.

[kriller2]

Look how detailed the german submarine is:
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5717/shaddon15wo9.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15wo9.jpg)

Notice the new toolbar it's from the stock SH 1.5 addon.

New instruments:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2966/shaddon15insvc9.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15insvc9.jpg)

Row sea colours with addon, look how detailed the floor is ;)
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/240/shaddon15crew2rowpe11ec3.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15crew2rowpe11ec3.jpg)

New crew screen:
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/57/shaddon15crewtt0.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15crewtt0.jpg)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1378/shaddon15machinedx9.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15machinedx9.jpg)

[rodan54]

Not to interupt your enjoyment of the addon, but have you noticed any bug fixes/improvements to the US side of the game?

Oh, and are those crew/damage/upgrade screens universal or just for the U-boats?

[Dread Knot]

It's a U-Boat centric world. Probably just for the U-Boats.

[maerean_m]

Oh, and are those crew/damage/upgrade screens universal or just for the U-boats? The US screens got their own new "theme", but I'm not going to spoil it.

Not to interupt your enjoyment of the addon, but have you noticed any bug fixes/improvements to the US side of the game? The warning system (the icons in the top-right corner) are a nice addition to the game, telling you about your sub's status and the mission objectives.

And there's also the new help system to improve on that steep learning curve.

[dcb]

I stumbled on the game yesterday at the local games-shop.

Lucky you! I still got to wait one more week, I presume:cry:

[LukeFF]

I have no desire to see u-boats in the Pacific. It would have been more relevent if the devs had made an addon which included Japanese subs, then I would be more inclined to buy the addon.
How many times does it have to be said? The devs went with German subs because the interior models, voice acting, etc., were already there. Adding in playable Japanese subs goes far beyond the scope of an add-on (read: lots of time and money needed to do a proper Japanese add-on that I'm sure the devs don't have the luxury of right now).

My request from the devs is: to come out with a patch for any improvements they have made to the base came, so that people, like me, that don't want to purchase the addon can still get the game improvements.
You're living in a dream world if you think that's going to happen. People would have no reason to buy the add-on, then, if Ubi just released a patch like that. Game publishers are in the business of making money, not being charitable organizations. ;)

[kiborg]

Look how detailed the german submarine is:
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5717/shaddon15wo9.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15wo9.jpg)

Notice the new toolbar it's from the stock SH 1.5 addon.

New instruments:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2966/shaddon15insvc9.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15insvc9.jpg)

Row sea colours with addon, look how detailed the floor is ;)
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/240/shaddon15crew2rowpe11ec3.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15crew2rowpe11ec3.jpg)

New crew screen:
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/57/shaddon15crewtt0.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15crewtt0.jpg)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1378/shaddon15machinedx9.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaddon15machinedx9.jpg)
Thank you!

[Captain von Keldunk]

hello to kriller2:D
i hope u-boat tdc is not like us one is, is it like the one in sh3?:hmm:

[Ragtag]

hello to kriller2:D
i hope u-boat tdc is not like us one is, is it like the one in sh3?:hmm:

I would like to see the TDC and scopes :)

Was expecting my review copy today but no luck:(
Oh well, it will be a good day tomorrow.

[kiborg]

And it is possible still sreens of the central post?

[JREX53]

I have no desire to see u-boats in the Pacific. It would have been more relevent if the devs had made an addon which included Japanese subs, then I would be more inclined to buy the addon.
How many times does it have to be said? The devs went with German subs because the interior models, voice acting, etc., were already there. Adding in playable Japanese subs goes far beyond the scope of an add-on (read: lots of time and money needed to do a proper Japanese add-on that I'm sure the devs don't have the luxury of right now).

My request from the devs is: to come out with a patch for any improvements they have made to the base came, so that people, like me, that don't want to purchase the addon can still get the game improvements.
You're living in a dream world if you think that's going to happen. People would have no reason to buy the add-on, then, if Ubi just released a patch like that. Game publishers are in the business of making money, not being charitable organizations. ;)

LukeFF,

I have heard all the comments about the Japanese subs being integrated into the game. And I also know that businesses need to make money.

I was just stating that there are a lot of people here and on Ubi forum that really don't want to have the U-boats in the Pacific.

So you can get off you all and mighty horse, and know everything attitude, and go back to your game.

[Scottb8411]

I stumbled on the game yesterday at the local games-shop.

Kriller2, can you tell us more about Where you found the Add-On?

The Best Buy, Circuit City, Game Stop web sites have no information regarding the Add-On.

Is there any hope that I can purchase this tomorrow (on a scheduled day off from work) ?!?:roll:


http://battleflags.net/miniflags/BattleFlag_USS%20Grouper_Scottb8411_sig.jpg

[Ragtag]

I have no desire to see u-boats in the Pacific. It would have been more relevent if the devs had made an addon which included Japanese subs, then I would be more inclined to buy the addon.
How many times does it have to be said? The devs went with German subs because the interior models, voice acting, etc., were already there. Adding in playable Japanese subs goes far beyond the scope of an add-on (read: lots of time and money needed to do a proper Japanese add-on that I'm sure the devs don't have the luxury of right now).

My request from the devs is: to come out with a patch for any improvements they have made to the base came, so that people, like me, that don't want to purchase the addon can still get the game improvements.
You're living in a dream world if you think that's going to happen. People would have no reason to buy the add-on, then, if Ubi just released a patch like that. Game publishers are in the business of making money, not being charitable organizations. ;)

LukeFF,

I have heard all the comments about the Japanese subs being integrated into the game. And I also know that businesses need to make money.

I was just stating that there are a lot of people here and on Ubi forum that really don't want to have the U-boats in the Pacific.

So you can get off you all and mighty horse, and know everything attitude, and go back to your game.

Make a poll then. Im definatly one who wants u-boats in SH4, hell, i'll take any addon coming for this game. This addon is better than none. Im pretty sure it fixes stuff with the US subs to.
Anyhow, this is the addon they made and theres nothing anyone in here can do about it so i guess we should just have to live with it :)
Its definatly nothing to argue about.

[DeepIron]

Hey, look at the upside, now US subs can shoot the cr*p outta U-boats too! :rock:

[Major Johnson]

Wow! Look at all the developments since I've been away!! I came back at the right time!! I'm buying this add-on and through Subsim!!! :ping:

[LukeFF]

I have heard all the comments about the Japanese subs being integrated into the game. And I also know that businesses need to make money.

I was just stating that there are a lot of people here and on Ubi forum that really don't want to have the U-boats in the Pacific.

So you can get off you all and mighty horse, and know everything attitude, and go back to your game.

please...

I'm not being "high and mighty" with you; I'm just telling you how things work, especially with Ubi. Ubisoft is not going to finance a patch just so those that don't want to buy the add-on can have all the enhancements that the add-on brings. It's been the same way with their IL2 franchise - if people want the new features, they have to buy the add-ons. It saves the developers headaches developing multiple patches and it makes the series more cost-effective in the long run. It's just the way the software development industry works.

[V.C. Sniper]

Hey, look at the upside, now US subs can shoot the cr*p outta U-boats too! :rock:

HELLZ YEAH!!! HUNTING THE TYPE 9s WITH MY BALAO!!! :rock::arrgh!::arrgh!::rock:

[JREX53]

I have heard all the comments about the Japanese subs being integrated into the game. And I also know that businesses need to make money.

I was just stating that there are a lot of people here and on Ubi forum that really don't want to have the U-boats in the Pacific.

So you can get off you all and mighty horse, and know everything attitude, and go back to your game.
please...

I'm not being "high and mighty" with you; I'm just telling you how things work, especially with Ubi. Ubisoft is not going to finance a patch just so those that don't want to buy the add-on can have all the enhancements that the add-on brings. It's been the same way with their IL2 franchise - if people want the new features, they have to buy the add-ons. It saves the developers headaches developing multiple patches and it makes the series more cost-effective in the long run. It's just the way the software development industry works.

LukeFF,

I am truly sorry for the comments I made. I should have expected someone to make the commets that you did for my thread entry, but I was not.

I was just angry and lashed out and unfortunately you where the person I lashed out at. I want to also thank Ragtag for bringing me to my senses.

Thank you Ragtag. You are right - there is not reason to get angry.

I am truly sorry that I made those comments to you LukeFF, and I hope that you will accepted my apology. I also want to apologize to the Neal, the Mods, and all the other members of this community.

[Sailor Steve]

It takes a big man to apologize. You've got class, my friend.:sunny:

[JREX53]

Thank you Sailor Steve

[clayton]

You're right, Sir. TM is a great mod which I respect, and could get even better updated with new improvements coming from this add-on, but as the man doesn't want to pay Ubisoft for an add-on letting the player take control of a u-boot, he's probably going to update TM without having to buy it.
I do not trash the man in public. Ducimus has been my friend for quite a long moment, at least I thought he was (our friendship ended the day I put the GWX ban in my signature on here :roll:). And it will never be my intention to trash him in public : my only intention is to say the truth. U-boote missions will be just like a 1.5 patch. So in all honesty, I don't see a reason why TM shouldn't be updated, and I truly believe what I've just said.

I think your Kptl needs to reign you in!!! :rotfl:

[hellas1]

Hello all, :|\\

Darn, I gotta say I wish a real WWI U-boat sim would come with SH 4 specs!

Since it isn't happening anytime soon, I wanted to know: How historical is this add on? first.

Second, I want to know What's the cost? and What is the baseline "benefit" for me?

It's kind of bizarre to read about U-boats in the Pacifc?
What about Japanese subs and Mini-subs?

Whatever....I do hope that Ubisoft will deeply consider a WWI subsim.:|\\
We need it!
:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
hellas1- Sgt. John Doe: "What, a Nazi near Hawaii? Seaman, mop that deck and shut up! We're lookin for Kamikazi's not Weinerschnitzels!"

[Ragtag]

I have heard all the comments about the Japanese subs being integrated into the game. And I also know that businesses need to make money.

I was just stating that there are a lot of people here and on Ubi forum that really don't want to have the U-boats in the Pacific.

So you can get off you all and mighty horse, and know everything attitude, and go back to your game.
please...

I'm not being "high and mighty" with you; I'm just telling you how things work, especially with Ubi. Ubisoft is not going to finance a patch just so those that don't want to buy the add-on can have all the enhancements that the add-on brings. It's been the same way with their IL2 franchise - if people want the new features, they have to buy the add-ons. It saves the developers headaches developing multiple patches and it makes the series more cost-effective in the long run. It's just the way the software development industry works.

LukeFF,

I am truly sorry for the comments I made. I should have expected someone to make the commets that you did for my thread entry, but I was not.

I was just angry and lashed out and unfortunately you where the person I lashed out at. I want to also thank Ragtag for bringing me to my senses.

Thank you Ragtag. You are right - there is not reason to get angry.

I am truly sorry that I made those comments to you LukeFF, and I hope that you will accepted my apology. I also want to apologize to the Neal, the Mods, and all the other members of this community.
No need to thank me. Bad days isn't a phenomena but a sincere apology is:)
Takes character and you got it.

[stuntcow]

And still nonthing on it coming out in the U.S.:down: Anonther day I guess.:cry: We still have 3 days till the 29th.:o

[Tusc31979]

Oooooh, I just found out about this. I'll have to hustle my butt over to EB Games later on and see what the ETA is. :ping:

Of course, I'm sure it's already plastered everywhere online... :nope:

[cwelt]

I found a couple of sites saying it is pushed back to the 28th in north america :down:

[Spike]

http://www.gogamer.com/Silent-Hunter-4--U-Boat-Missions-Expansion--I--PC-Games_stcVVproductId38392830VVcatId444758VVviewpro d.htm http://digitalstore.ubi.com/178/5867/product/Buy-Silent-Hunter:-Wolves-of-the-Pacific-U-Boat-Missions-

[M. Sarsfield]

GoGamer is a rip off. Why are they charging 3X as much as Ubi?

[Ark]

GoGamer is a rip off. Why are they charging 3X as much as Ubi?

Because Gogamer is selling the DVD version, not the download.

Gogamer is FAR from being a ripoff. In fact, they are usually a little cheaper than most online retailers. Not to mention they have excellent customer service.

[M. Sarsfield]

Oh... well that makes a huge difference. Still, I might just download it, since I have cable internet and just burn it to a CD. Any idea how large the download is?

[Ark]

Oh... well that makes a huge difference. Still, I might just download it, since I have cable internet and just burn it to a CD. Any idea how large the download is?

No idea on the download size, but if you have a good connection it might be a viable option vs the DVD/CD. I might have to go with the download as well if I have to wait too long for the DVD/CD (I have no patience when it comes to sims. lol).

[badaboom]

If you choose the Download version can you back it up on a disk?What if your Hard drive crashes?Would you have to purchase again?

[Spike]

No,you usually can download it 6 times.

[badaboom]

:up: Thanks Spike!What if you buy a new PC?

[Spike]

Take the hard drive w/ya, : ) I remember when SH4 came out ,(the day of release),I had to E-mail them and let them know people were waiting to download it,what Bozo's

[Koinonos]

My current worry is that this addon will simply be new Uboat missions but will only contain the 1.4 patch for many of the known SH4 issues that have had to be worked out by the fan community.

Here's hoping they contacted Ducimus or some of the others with a request to incorporate their improvements.

The add-on certainly looks enticing, but can't help but wonder how it will play compared to the fixed campaigns by the SH4 community (crosses fingers).

[Ragtag]

I finally received my review copy and the addon is nice. It upgrades SH4 to version 1.5 and contains alot of fixes i believe. The water is way better, behaves and look more real. The IXD2 model is simply beautiful. THe interior bug in the US subs is fixed. Mostly played with German campaign for now so i cant tell you if there are any signficant bugfixes in the US campaign yet. Ive just started a German campaign so for now only scoutplanes are available to me. I also noticed a new button in the GUI called "Special abilities" which is greyed out for the moment but my guess is that its ment to be used for calling in airsupport, naval support and such.

Two bugs ive noted so far with the German boats is a couple of crewmen on deck is missing their eyes. (tried several drivers). Setting up a salvo and opening tube doors, only the first tube door opens (not both) causing a big delay on the second torp. There are no German quickmissions, warpatrols or trainingmissions...kinda weird. Manual isn't updated with the new additions (this is the PDF file on disc). Review copys are very often shipped without a paperback manual so i cant say if the retail DVD is shipped with one. Only 2 paperleeflets were in my package, one with a quickstart guide in multilanguage for Scandinavia and one with info on the online manual(PDF).

The readme isn't detailed on all the fixes/additions in the game but ill post it anyways:

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Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific
ReadMe File
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Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific Uboat Missions
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Table of Contents
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1. Minimum/Recommended Specifications
2. Operating System
3. Installation
4. Changes in Add-on
5. Known Issues
6. Technical Support and Other Important Websites
7. Copyright
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1. Minimum/Recommended specifications
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-Minimum Configuration:
WinXP/VISTA Only
DirectX 9.0c
2 GHz Pentium 4, AMD Athlon, or equivalent
1024 MB RAM
128MB DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card with Pixel Shader 2.0 capability
DirectX 9.0C compatible sound device
DVD-ROM 4x or faster
6.0 GB hard drive space
Windows-compatible mouse required
Internet connection for play on Ubi.com (minimum 56k modem or broadband)
-Recommended Configuration:
Win XP/VISTA Only
DirectX 9.0c
3 GHz Pentium 4, AMD Athlon or equivalent
2048 MB RAM
256MB DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card with Pixel Shader 2.0 capability
DirectX 9.0c compatible sound device
DVD-ROM 4x or faster
6.0 GB hard drive space
Windows-compatible mouse required
Internet connection for play on Ubi.com (minimum 56k modem or broadband)
*Supported Video Cards at Time of Release:
ATI(r): 9600/9700/9800, X300 to X850, X1300 to X1800
NVIDIA(r): 6200/6600/6800/7800

*Not Supported Video Cards at Time of Release:
ATI(r): 9200 and below/9500
NVIDIA(r): 5200 and below/5600/5700/5800/5900
Laptop models of these cards are not supported.

These chipsets are the only ones that will run this game. Additional
chipsets may be supported after release. For an up-to-date list of
supported chipsets, please visit the FAQ for this game on our support
website at: http://support.ubi.com.

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2. Operating System
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The game has been tested successfuly on, Win XP (SP2) and VISTA
Not Supported:
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows ME
Windows NT
Windows 2000
Directx9.0b and previous versions.
We strongly recommend to not install Silent Hunter - Wolfes of the Pacific into your system's "Windows" folder or in any partition's root (ex: directly on C: or D:).
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3. Installation
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Please make sure that you are installing the right add-on version for your game version.
This add-on can be applied on Silent Hunter 4 Original Version, on Patch 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 or 1.4
This add-on will upgrade your version of Silent Hunter 4 to Silent Hunter 4 Add-on (v 1.5).
1. Before installing Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific - Uboat Missions please close all other programs.
2. Run add-on installation file.
3. Follow the instructions.
Upon installation you can run the game either from windows start menu ('Start' -> 'All Programs' -> 'Ubisoft' -> 'Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific' -> or use 'sh4.exe' file from the game installation directory (By default, the game will be installed into
"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4").

Note 1: The save games and replays that were made with the original version of Silent Hunter 4 or with Silent Hunter 4 patch 1.1 to 1.4 will be incompatible with the new add-on version.
Note 2: In Base autosaving are compatible between original version and Patches 1.1 to version 1.5.
Note 3: Multiplayer (LAN or Online) connection between the original version of Silent Hunter 4, any of the previous patches and the add-on is not possible.

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4. Changes in Addon (v1.5)
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HARD DRIVE SPACE
Windows will require additional free hard drive space for its operating system
(virtual memory). If you encounter the following message in an error dialog:
"Ran out of virtual memory", free up some more hard drive space.
To install Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific - Addon you will need approximately 1.3 GB free hard disk space for the full install.
The most notable changes are:
1. German campaigns are now accesible through the main menu button "U-boat campaign". To play a career with the US Silent Service, use the new "American Career" button. The included campaign focuses on German operations in the Indian Ocean and nearby areas.
2. When commanding a German u-boat it is possible to enable the Kriegsmarine Grid Quadrant Overlay over the Navigation map.
3. The Submarine upgrade system and screen has been improved
4. Improved crew management system
5. New player and crew abilities available via crew management system
6. New Type IX D2 Long range U-boot
7. New Type XVIII Walther U-boat with unique propulsion system
8. Player has been given limited control over allied units (naval and air), depending on his current rank.
9. Game loading time has been greatly reduced though dynamic loading.
10. Maximum render distance increased to 20 km
11.Water rendering improvements
12.New warships
-Graf Spee Pocket Battleship
-Black Swan Class Sloop
-River Class Frigate - with a correct 3d model this time
-J Class Destroyer
-V&W Destroyer
-Flower Class Corvette
-Fiji class light cruiser
13.New Merchant Ships
-Hog Island type A Freighter
-Charlotte Schliemann supply ship
-California Express Passenger Freighter
-War Melody
-Paula medium tanker
14.New Aircraft
-Ar-196
-Sunderland Patrol Plane
-Beaufighter fighter bomber
15.Added more Generic unit types improving campaign editing and unit appearance control. Iowa and Yamato are now "Super Battleship" class and won't spawn as "Generic Battleship".
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5. Known Issues
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5.1. Installing video drivers
If you experience any graphical problems, please install the latest video
drivers available for your video card. Links to the most popular video cards
manufacturers are available at the bottom of this document.
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5.2. Installing sound drivers
If you experience any sound problems, please install the latest sound
drivers available for your sound card. Links to the most popular sound cards
manufacturers are available at the bottom of this document.
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5.3. Installing DirectX
Silent Hunter 4 needs DirectX 9.0c to run properly. To get the latest version of
DirectX, please visit:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/downloads

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5.4. Known Problems
The water surface isn't updated during game pause.
Game input depends on framerate which can cause problems especially when
playing with higher time acceleration.
Due to the extremely vast area of land and great number of objects many
small collision problems can be experienced.

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[maerean_m]

There are no German quickmissions, warpatrols or trainingmissions...kinda weird.
There was no time to create some quality missions, so it's better no to have any than to have some lame ones.
Manual isn't updated with the new additions (this is the PDF file on disc).
Press F1 while on patrol for an updated help system.

[Ragtag]

There are no German quickmissions, warpatrols or trainingmissions...kinda weird.

There was no time to create some quality missions, so it's better no to have any than to have some lame ones.

Manual isn't updated with the new additions (this is the PDF file on disc).

Press F1 while on patrol for an updated help system.

1. True enough, but are you planning to release missions in a later patch?

2. I know about the F1. I was talking about the PDF file. Though it is a VERY small issue, some like to print it :)

3. Are you currently working on a patch?

[capt_frank]

Oh... well that makes a huge difference. Still, I might just download it, since I have cable internet and just burn it to a CD. Any idea how large the download is?

It says 3.81 GB, D/L now...:D

[Buzzdart]

3.8GB ? There are only 600MB on tha Disc ... :huh:

[Vikinger]

I got my u-boat mission package today. :) One day ahead the release day.

I order it from a shop in Sweden.

Installed it and iam on my first patrol now in my DX2.
Had to deliver some cargo to a harbour.

I havent seen a single enemy ship/flight yet. Just a load of japanese shipes and i have to set my self down to not put an eel in them. We are on the same side now :)

[longam]

Iowa and Yamato are now "Super Battleship" class and won't spawn as "Generic Battleship".

Does this mean we don't have 3 or more Yamato Battle Ships in the game now?

[The General]

Iowa and Yamato are now "Super Battleship" class and won't spawn as "Generic Battleship".

Does this mean we don't have 3 or more Yamato Battle Ships in the game now?Yes. I would say so. I hadn't seen the Yamato yet anyway, but I'd prefer if one-off ships like that are only seen in hisorically acurate locations. If a ship spends the whole war in a dry-dock and I have to sneak into the harbour to take a look at her, then so be it.

Once again, thanks to The Devs for binging out this Add-on :up:

[M. Sarsfield]

It says 3.81 GB, D/L now...:D

Not a problem. I'll just buy a writeable DVD.


3.8GB ? There are only 600MB on tha Disc ... :huh:

The files are compressed.

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello
Ixd2 TDC what is it like, pic?
How is manual mode is it like sh3, or sh4 us one
So germans are using eyeles zombies also , mabe they made them in some
camp or something?:rotfl:
("Two bugs ive noted so far with the German boats is a couple of crewmen on deck is missing their eyes" ragtag)

[Jib01]

The big question for this addon is this.....

It probably will only work with the stock SH4 with the 1.4 patch only. So we will need to create another new SH4 without TM1.7.6 and the addons correct ? And, I hope they will provide a selection to play Atlantic or Pacific and not both at the same time because I don't have enough coffee in the house to wait for that to load up.

And, that last shot where the submarine really looks real with that super water that looks real, is that a photo of real or is that a game photo. It sure looks super and that is the best water I have seen yet.....

Regards
Jib01
:rock: :rock: :rock:

[CCIP]

And, I hope they will provide a selection to play Atlantic or Pacific and not both at the same time because I don't have enough coffee in the house to wait for that to load up.
Shouldn't matter. It says that the add-on (1.05) comes with a new dynamic campaign loading system which will drop startup times even more. :up:

[Ragtag]

Hello
Ixd2 TDC what is it like, pic?
How is manual mode is it like sh3, or sh4 us one
So germans are using eyeles zombies also , mabe they made them in some
camp or something?:rotfl:
("Two bugs ive noted so far with the German boats is a couple of crewmen on deck is missing their eyes" ragtag)

The TDC in the German boats is functioning like the TDC in SH3, even the speed calculation is the same:)

I have taken screenshots... just need somewhere to upload them :)

[Wilcke]

Hello
Ixd2 TDC what is it like, pic?
How is manual mode is it like sh3, or sh4 us one
So germans are using eyeles zombies also , mabe they made them in some
camp or something?:rotfl:
("Two bugs ive noted so far with the German boats is a couple of crewmen on deck is missing their eyes" ragtag)

The TDC in the German boats is functioning like the TDC in SH3, even the speed calculation is the same:)

I have taken screenshots... just need somewhere to upload them :)

Photobucket!

[Boris]

This looks encouraging! It's like SH3 in SH4, which is good news for advocates of the Atlantic campaign (and there are a lot of those). Maybe we will see a complete Atlantic campaign in SH4 at some point, but it may take a loooong time until it is up to the standard of SH3 GWX.

[Captain von Keldunk]

Now that in SH4 there are two tdc versions, maybe we can MOD a mix of them:hmm:
:up: :up:

[M. Sarsfield]

It's been a long time since I played SH3. I'll have to brush off my manual TDC skills for the u-boat.

[Mush Martin]

-River Class Frigate - with a correct 3d model this time


Today my mission at subsim is complete. Wow:yep:

MM

[Ragtag]

Ok, here you have some shots from different sections and a couple of externals.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2381/sh4hf4.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh4hf4.jpg)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1815/sh41zp0.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh41zp0.jpg)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1486/sh42ie9.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh42ie9.jpg)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2997/sh43pg5.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh43pg5.jpg)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4671/sh44nr0.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh44nr0.jpg)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3386/sh45re0.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh45re0.jpg)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2035/sh46sq8.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh46sq8.jpg)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5541/sh47ja0.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh47ja0.jpg)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1879/sh48cv5.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh48cv5.jpg)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1420/sh49qr5.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh49qr5.jpg)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7209/sh410sr9.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh410sr9.jpg)

Enjoy :)

[M. Sarsfield]

Very nice screen shots. Are any of the crewmen clickable?

[maerean_m]

And, I hope they will provide a selection to play Atlantic or Pacific and not both at the same time because I don't have enough coffee in the house to wait for that to load up.
We faced the same "coffee" problem, so we were forced to do it. :know:

[Ragtag]

Very nice screen shots. Are any of the crewmen clickable?

Some of the men and some of the instruments are clickable, like in SH3 though abit more limited.

What i REALLY love is the crewmens "Special abilities"...an example....You have a radioman with "Sonar Expert ability". When you activate his ability he can detect enemy heading, speed and so on in just half the time normally used, and he has a wider detection range and so on. Now these abilities are only useable for a limited time. The sonar expert for instance has a 30 min limit. I also have a Commander officer with Quick dive ability. Using this will make the sub dive MUCH faster and boosts the electric engines...this can really make a difference when being detected :)
These crewmen costs ALOT of renown...The sonar expert costed 3750 renown :P
I guess it will take some time to rank the crew up for abilities.

[Paajtor]

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1420/sh49qr5.th.jpg

....so we will get multiple compartments again!
Bring on the open-hatch mod.:yep:

Does this mean, that multi-compartments will be possible for US-subs, in future maybe?


I'm not sure what to think of the special-abilities thingie...it reminds a little of the health- and powerups you can pick up in shooters.

[M. Sarsfield]

I don't think that anyone has found a way to model a new room, yet.

[Paajtor]

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2381/sh4hf4.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh4hf4.jpg)


There's only 1 smoke-column reflected in the water?

[Sailor Steve]

....so we will get multiple compartments again!
Bring on the open-hatch mod.:yep:

Does this mean, that multi-compartments will be possible for US-subs, in future maybe?
I think part of the problem with US boats is that the sonar is already in the control room and conning tower, and the radio is stuck away in a corner somewhere the captain never went. They aren't like on a u-boat, in one place.

[M. Sarsfield]

The Balao boats had the radio room in the control room - Gato and Tench are probably the same way. It was a small room built into the aft section of the control room near the galley hatch - and they are very cramped. The control rooms in the game don't reflect this nor a lot of other equipment. The game makes it look very open and spacious, when it really isn't.

[CCIP]

Very nice screen shots. Are any of the crewmen clickable?
Some of the men and some of the instruments are clickable, like in SH3 though abit more limited.

What i REALLY love is the crewmens "Special abilities"...an example....You have a radioman with "Sonar Expert ability". When you activate his ability he can detect enemy heading, speed and so on in just half the time normally used, and he has a wider detection range and so on. Now these abilities are only useable for a limited time. The sonar expert for instance has a 30 min limit. I also have a Commander officer with Quick dive ability. Using this will make the sub dive MUCH faster and boosts the electric engines...this can really make a difference when being detected :)
These crewmen costs ALOT of renown...The sonar expert costed 3750 renown :P
I guess it will take some time to rank the crew up for abilities.
Wow!

Sounds like a really "gamey" feature in many ways, but also really cool. I'm sure with some modding, this feature could even be made into something realism grognards would be happy with. I look forward to this one personally. Sounds like quite a reward for your challenge. And one of the definitely-better ways that this game could be made more appealing to players who just want a good experience.

[Ragtag]

The special abilities has to be earned by experience. If you have renown enough you can buy crewman with the experience and ability but as mentioned, they cost ALOT...they are more expencive then sub upgrades :). As in real life, experience breeds a master

[Ragtag]

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2381/sh4hf4.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh4hf4.jpg)


There's only 1 smoke-column reflected in the water?

Yes i know. I have some graphical problems like this one and missing eyes on the crewman on deck. Gonna try different drivers and try solving it. Might be the settings im forcing in the driver to like supersampling, triplebuffering so im gonna disable all except FSAA and see what happens :)

[LukeFF]

I think part of the problem with US boats is that the sonar is already in the control room and conning tower, and the radio is stuck away in a corner somewhere the captain never went. They aren't like on a u-boat, in one place.

Exactly. I wish someone would put this up in gigantic neon letters when people grumble about not having a radio room in the American subs.

[LukeFF]

The Balao boats had the radio room in the control room - Gato and Tench are probably the same way. It was a small room built into the aft section of the control room near the galley hatch - and they are very cramped. The control rooms in the game don't reflect this nor a lot of other equipment.
The online tour of the Pampanito shows it's seperate from the control room.

[clayton]

Very nice screen shots. Are any of the crewmen clickable?

Some of the men and some of the instruments are clickable, like in SH3 though abit more limited.

What i REALLY love is the crewmens "Special abilities"...an example....You have a radioman with "Sonar Expert ability". When you activate his ability he can detect enemy heading, speed and so on in just half the time normally used, and he has a wider detection range and so on. Now these abilities are only useable for a limited time. The sonar expert for instance has a 30 min limit. I also have a Commander officer with Quick dive ability. Using this will make the sub dive MUCH faster and boosts the electric engines...this can really make a difference when being detected :)
These crewmen costs ALOT of renown...The sonar expert costed 3750 renown :P
I guess it will take some time to rank the crew up for abilities.

Super powers...cool! :o

[Nuc]

The Balao boats had the radio room in the control room - Gato and Tench are probably the same way. It was a small room built into the aft section of the control room near the galley hatch - and they are very cramped. The control rooms in the game don't reflect this nor a lot of other equipment.
The online tour of the Pampanito shows it's seperate from the control room.

In all three classes the location is the same, aft of the periscope wells with entrance from the companion way that leads to the water tight door (hatch) that seperates the after battery compartment from the watertight compartment that contains the control room, radio room, pump room and few other spaces (which are seperated by non-water tight bulkheads and decks) . This entire compartment is sometimes mistakenly refered to as the "control room". See plan view of SS-381

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9199/controlroomqg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[LukeFF]

I see what you mean, Nuc, thanks for the explanation. The camera angle on the Pampanito page had me confused there for a moment.

[Vikinger]

An close up view of my German Captain`s belt taken from the add on.

Details are important :)

The text on his belt says. United states. Marines corps :D

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7899/marine1ri6.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marine1ri6.jpg)

[Payoff]

The U.S.S. Silversides is a Gato class with the radio room located in the aft section of the control room. They keep it locked since it is kept in operational order.
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/841/dsc00173bv3.jpg
Standing in the control room looking aft. The door with the blue lock on the right is the radio room.

[M. Sarsfield]

The Batfish locks a plexiglass door on the radio room doorway when the ham radio operators aren't in there using the modern stuff.

As for the crewmen special abilities, two of my chiefs obtained special abilities last night. One can make the boat go faster and the other specializes in underwater speed. I didn't try to click on the special icon to activate it. I just assumed that it's a bonus that will stay with that particular crewman. (I'm still using v1.4).

[Wilcke]

An close up view of my German Captain`s belt taken from the add on.

Details are important :)

The text on his belt says. United states. Marines corps :D

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7899/marine1ri6.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marine1ri6.jpg)

He got it on Ebay! I know lousy joke! Sorry!

[The General]

I beg you Ubisoft, take my money!! It's 17:00 G.M.T. on realese day, 28th of February 2008, and I have no way to download the Add-on?!

[capt_frank]

The download site is now up and running:

http://digitalstore.ubi.com/178/5867/product/Buy-Silent-Hunter:-Wolves-of-the-Pacific-U-Boat-Missions-

It's a 592 MB file.

Yesterday I reported that I was downloading the ADD-ON as a 3.81 GB file. Well, yes I was downloading, but I was downloading the wrong file...doh.

I apologize for any mis-information...:oops:

[The General]

Not in the U.K. it ain't! :nope:

[The WosMan]

Anyone having problem with the download through UBI? It started fine via the ign download manager they have but it crapped out on me and now it won't restart. I get a Network Error message. I wonder if the traffic downloading it is too much for them to handle.

[ekempey]

The same thing is happening to me, it must be the amount of people downloading.

[SurfnSea]

Forgive me if the answer to my question is right in front of me here somewhere. I see the link for Direct2Drive above; so, does Subsim get some kind of credit if I go through the above link?

[theluckyone17]

I just bought mine off the Direct2Drive site, via the link above (May as well send $ Neal's way, if I can). $10? Ppppphhhhhtttt. I can blow $10 quickly. And if you think I'm fast, you ought to see the wife :yep:.

Yeah, the major mods aren't compatible with it yet, but I have faith that they will... and the "wait 'til they are" attitude won't help much. Someone's gotta ride that bleeding edge, right? :huh:

[longam]

It took 5 hours for my DL the speed was up and down.

[capt_frank]

I just bought mine off the Direct2Drive site, via the link above (May as well send $ Neal's way, if I can). $10? Ppppphhhhhtttt. I can blow $10 quickly. And if you think I'm fast, you ought to see the wife :yep:.

Yeah, the major mods aren't compatible with it yet, but I have faith that they will... and the "wait 'til they are" attitude won't help much. Someone's gotta ride that bleeding edge, right? :huh:

Spot on.

And yes, do use Neal's link to download, I didn't see it yesterday as I would have used same!

[GeoffBelding]

I am playing the new add-on and finding it quite a different experience.

One thing I haven't found is how to set the torpedo speed, running depth etc:oops:

How is it done?

Cheers

Geoff

[maerean_m]

From the attack map

[GeoffBelding]

Many thanks - I'll take a look:D

[Vikinger]

I must say after playing 3 missions now that the add on is real good.

1 mission i had whit severly mission goals took me outside south africa, good hope.

It reminded me of thos long mission i had to same place whit sh3.

This addon, to play as a german captain, and whit all compartments in the sub back again :) is real good.

Its like playing sh3.5 :)

And i guess some of the player made addons to sh3 could be converted to this game.

But one bug i encounterd was when i faced a task force contianed 2 King george ship and both of them was missing thier texture. They where pitch black exept for thier cannons.

But overall i do enjoy this add on and i have all ROW files installed.
Only problem is the free camera view coz that add on is not made for the new compartments.

[Faamecanic]

Did they ever fix the sH4 damage control and damage model? I remember that damage was joke with SH4 (ie you couldnt fix things, once you DID get damaged it pretty much destroyed your sub and you sank to your death....)

This was a game breaker for me and the reason why I havent played SH4 since the patch before the last.

[dean_acheson]

is ubisoft down?

[capt_frank]

is for me

[Type941]

:|\\ I just bought mine off the Direct2Drive site, via the link above (May as well send $ Neal's way, if I can). $10? Ppppphhhhhtttt. I can blow $10 quickly. And if you think I'm fast, you ought to see the wife :yep:.

Yeah, the major mods aren't compatible with it yet, but I have faith that they will... and the "wait 'til they are" attitude won't help much. Someone's gotta ride that bleeding edge, right? :huh:

Im in Europe, and have european version of the game. Where can I but this addon? The link you refer to says something about only people from US being able to buy it. Is this for real?! I want this...

[Seeschwein]

I don't know your coordinates mate but the add-on is available in Belgium (boxed, both English and French version) for 12 €.

[sturmer]

any chance u know wich store? :D
then i can get it too :D

[Corvette]

Bought it today in Game for £9.99.

[sturmer]

i bought it a couple of days ago and i have to say the feeling of sh3 is partly there.
its a nice feature to add to sh4.

[neilbyrne]

I was a great fan of the original SH and then of SH3. I bought SH4, but after the hate mail started to show up at the bulk rate, never loaded it up.

I can't really get a grasp of two things from having read most of this thread.

Does SH4 after patching to 1.4 now play as well as SH3?

Does this add-on do anything to fix the bugs in the US sub game or does it only add the German campaign in the Indian Ocean?

If it does fix US bugs, do we now think it plays as well as SH3 thereafter?

Thanks for the help.

[9th_cow]

hum ok long story but bear with me it has a point.

memorable moments from SHIII

one day after setting sail i came across a short sunderland, ok he caught me on the surface, but i could probably dive...thing is my gunner due to circumstances was kept busy last mission, and the guy is a killer! So, i stayed on the surface. he nailed 11 last mission, one sunderland hasnt got a chance!

so 3 hours out of port sat on the bottom of the sea with the gunner dead and the entire front room utterly ruined i finally got the flooding under controll and headed home, after burying my AA gunner at sea.


memorable moment 2.

the south of england is not a good place to be in a sub, destoryer and hurricanes swarm the area like you wouldnt beleive,i power through this area as far south as possible, on the surface at high speed till im through, diving only if forced to by aircraft.
anyways, im sitting in the map room, having a look at my target zone. i know its early morning because i just came from the bridge.
after nosing about i come up with a course i think should get me there without too much trouble.
BANG!
wtf ? damage reports are off the scale, i cant keep up with them. everything is broken and were flooding like crazy apparantly. could it have been an aircraft ? why didnt the crew warn me, i go to the bridge....or i try to, several times..
ok, were submerged, that is why i cant get to the bridge.
weird. ok we are flooding and blowing ballast batrely slows the dive. i try to hit full reverse, however the engines die..i can only watch the depth indicator as we get deeper and eventually smah hard into the seabed.
now i have to manage my crew, as fast as possible, by the skin of my teeth, and with seconds only to spare i manage to controll flooding in the front crew room, and eventually we also get controll of the entirely flooded torpedo room. im leaking fules like mad, the dive planes are bust, the tubes are broken, as are several other vital parts of my VII.
im so engrossed in getting controll of my ship and at least delaying the inevitable i lose track of time. eventually, we get a battery working again, and with the flooding down as low as we can get it, i order flank speed and blow ballast.
now it wasnt exactly text book, we got up, but eventually.. this was no fast climb. and we were running nose down once on the surface.
i finally got the diesels working and set course for the nearest harbour.
then i got to the bridge, noticing a few things, it was pitch black, we had been down theyre all day, the deck gun was bust,as were the AA guns and the scopes.
we got as far as the mouth of the harbour when the last of the fuel dried up. made it by the skin of our teeth..


as for SHIV.. erm, well i dont recall anything of the sort. i got a flooded compartment once and the game ended...? just like that. no suspense, no suspsension of beleif, just "game over" everytime a compartment floods...no Das boot moments..

dont get me wrong i love shiv, but the damage model ( realistic?? or not i dont know) is certainly not ever going to give you a magick movie moment..

aircraft swarm like flies in all places, its not easy to beleive. they dont have a puspose like the hurricanes swarming north and south of the UK..theyre just "eveyrwhere"

and in SHIV i never encountered anything in a harbour that would make me ever enter a harbour again..

there are other moments from SHIII that give me pleasent memories. comming out of a south east base in the UK i ran into a carrier group. and nailed one, zero vis in the rain, i set them to run low, set a wide spread, and got lucky...if it hadnt been for the log i wouldnt have know what i sank, just that i sank "something"

on my way north to get away from the escorts i came across another carrier group. and scored my second ( very rare in that career to catch a task force let alone see a CV)
however this gus escorts were pissed at me. sat at 250 feet or so with a jammed rudder i could only move in circles from midnight till afternoon the next day when they finally left me alone long enough to surface and repair the rudder. even then, it was straight back down and run for open seas.

SHIV in the rare event the IJN escorts do anything ( ive had 3 hit my scope and sink one after the other..grrrr) any damage, would almost instantly be repaired, or cause your death, without ever having the "magik moments" of SHIII..

shiv does many things well, but just as many things seem "broken" now i odnt know whats more realistic, SHIII or SHIV, but, i wont ever forget that day sat at the bottom of the sea thanks to a mine of the coast.

and ive yet to get a decent moment worth remembering in SHIV.
for me the only thing that really hurts SHIV is the damage model.. the survive or die with nothing in between aspect is a shame.
i can live without finding stuff in harbours, i mean the sea isnt exactly emtpy in SHIV. and hiting a moving target is more rewarding, but i feel its something that should be worked on.

[neilbyrne]

Cow, thanks for the response. I have been playing the SH4 mod Trigger Maru and so far am impressed. I haven't been damaged yet though so it may not have fixed that piece. Otherwise, it is extremely well done.

[Rockin Robbins]

I can tell you one thing. With Trigger Maru you won't be complaining about escorts "if they do anything." Escorts are slightly unrealistically hostile and they will kill you.

My first experience with RSRD DD's with side throwers was enlightening. Sonar shows he'll pass safely to starboard, sir! "Recommend sitting tight on this pass", Ensign Dimwit said. Just before the loudest explosions any crew ever heard and lived. Now you don't know whether charges will drop off the stern or be thrown over the sides, widening the swath of death by a couple hundred yards.

Don't even THINK about tangling with aircraft running Trigger Maru. With the U-Boat and Operation Monsun the flying boats have rockets. You might as well blow kisses at 'em as shoot because they'll sink you either way.

I've played SH3 with and without GWX. SH4 is marvelous right now and has been since patch 1.3. And for those like me with long attention spans who don't just flit from trendy game to new trendy game, the good stuff has just begun!:up:

[Petur]

hmmm...my country is not well know but i could buy the game there. You probably can get it in most computer game stores in Europe. (there as well)

[Lionman]

It's coming, folks.

http://www.tothegame.com/boxshot.asp?picnum=uk&id=7409

Release date Feb 26th (US) Feb 28th (UK)

New screenshots:

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon2.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon1.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon3.jpg

http://www.subsim.com/SH4addon4.jpg

These screen shots are awesome. Especially the sub with the light on the water.