Clear off

[STEED]

I am getting sick to the back teeth with are councils laying down the anti-social behavior laws on issues which are not. What the hell is there beef? I am sick of there high handed attitude where it is not wanted and not needed. Trumped up little power hungry swine they are. :mad:


When they stuck a few flyers on lamp posts to advertise a coffee morning or a jumble sale, the villagers thought they were bringing their community together.
Since the hall is down a lonely lane, it was the only way to drum up support.
But the council had other ideas.


Council bans villagers putting up 'anti-social' coffee morning posters on lamp posts (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23434343-details/Council+bans+villagers+putting+up+%27anti-social%27+coffee+morning+posters+on+lamp+posts/article.do)

[Jimbuna]

Stick something up alongside about a BME associated event and watch the potential inequality evolve :hmm:

[DeepIron]

I read the article and honesty, I don't understand the "Anti-social" aspect of it.

To me, something like "Attend this charity fundraiser under pain of death" would construe an anti-social behavior or motivation...

[August]

I've been wondering this for awhile. What is a council? Is it part of the government? Who makes up this council?? By what right do they tell citizens what they can and cannot do?

[joea]

"Anti-social"??? If there were a law against people putting up posters anywhere they wanted like they have here, fine, but that is another matter.

Petty bureaucrats with nothing better to do. :nope:

[jumpy]

Welcome to GB, Grey Britain.

I especially liked some of the comments -
Vote Labour get monkeys

- Oli, London
:arrgh!:
Local councils have, for the most part, always been a pointless waste of humanity. No doubt there are good ones, but I've yet to hear of one.

[Letum]

Flyposting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyposting) is illegal anyway.

You have never been allowed to put posters on property you do not own. Anti-social or not.

The anti-social aspect is that 99% of the time people don't remove the posters
they illegaly put up. It makes the town look a real mess after they have been up
there for weeks.

[STEED]

I've been wondering this for awhile. What is a council? Is it part of the government? Who makes up this council?? By what right do they tell citizens what they can and cannot do?

Here you go August.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/YourlocalcouncilandCouncilTax/YourCommunity/DG_4001648

[Jimbuna]

They're also responsible for setting the rises in council tax each year http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img134/9742/angry8se2.gif

[Knipper]

I've been wondering this for awhile. What is a council? Is it part of the government? Who makes up this council?? By what right do they tell citizens what they can and cannot do?

FYI August, councils are made up of local people who are elected by other local people. Councillors are generally affiliated to the main political parties, though some are independent. I think the theory is that local people know best how to run their own affairs. In reality, most councillors are politically naive and to a large extent incompetent. The amount of power they have is largely dependent on which party is running the country at any particular time. They get voted in or out every couple of years but who actually runs the council depends on which party has the highest number of elected councillors. They are responsible, at a local level for things like refuse collection, education, traffic management etc, and they are funded by the national govenment. Now, shall I explain the rules of cricket? They are much easier to understand than how english local government works - honest:D

[STEED]

Flyposting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyposting) is illegal anyway.

You have never been allowed to put posters on property you do not own. Anti-social or not.

The anti-social aspect is that 99% of the time people don't remove the posters
they illegaly put up. It makes the town look a real mess after they have been up
there for weeks.

I'm sure these people are not slobs, people around here doing there jumble sales for years, they put them up a couple weeks before and within a couple days after they take them down.

What make me laugh is the posters that go up on our Bus stop shelters which after ten years of them being new they are a bloody mess and rotting away from the the glue and rotting paper of old posters, I've found out around here the council allowed this to happen.

Now look at our Bus shelters which are a mess, crap all over the place, what's the bloody point paying council tax when those pigs will not send a council road sweeper out to clear the mess up. My roads have not been swept in over 10 years and when I take the matter up with them they fob me off with BS.

[Knipper]

Re the business with the posters. Being a Somerset dweller myself, though not a native (I've only lived here 30 years) I've noticed councils in this area do seem especially incompetent and prone to bad judgement. Maybe it's the cider...:hmm: The screw up over Bath's new spa is a case in point. 10s of millions over budget, 3 years late and now they're in charge of rebuilding a significant part of the town centre. I dread to think what the result will be like or when it will actually be finished... Still, what can you expect from Conservatives. At least monkeys are a bit like humans and have a measure of intelligence. :rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

LOL :lol:

[STEED]

Re the business with the posters. Being a Somerset dweller myself, though not a native (I've only lived here 30 years) I've noticed councils in this area do seem especially incompetent and prone to bad judgement. Maybe it's the cider...:hmm: The screw up over Bath's new spa is a case in point. 10s of millions over budget, 3 years late and now they're in charge of rebuilding a significant part of the town centre. I dread to think what the result will be like or when it will actually be finished... Still, what can you expect from Conservatives. At least monkeys are a bit like humans and have a measure of intelligence. :rotfl:

My hung council laid a new road in the town centre, true we needed a new road but here is the issue, the work went over budget and the council wasted over £10,000 in a report that concluded the work indeed went over budget, idiots.

PS: for the benefit of the rest of the world a hung council means no party has over all control.

[The Munster]

Re the business with the posters. Being a Somerset dweller myself, though not a native (I've only lived here 30 years) I've noticed councils in this area do seem especially incompetent and prone to bad judgement. Maybe it's the cider...:hmm: The screw up over Bath's new spa is a case in point. 10s of millions over budget, 3 years late and now they're in charge of rebuilding a significant part of the town centre. I dread to think what the result will be like or when it will actually be finished... Still, what can you expect from Conservatives. At least monkeys are a bit like humans and have a measure of intelligence. :rotfl:

What's Somerset like ? Always fancied going there and believe me, it couldn't be worse than the spot I'm in right now. Full of :doh: :doh: :doh: 's !

[Jimbuna]

Re the business with the posters. Being a Somerset dweller myself, though not a native (I've only lived here 30 years) I've noticed councils in this area do seem especially incompetent and prone to bad judgement. Maybe it's the cider...:hmm: The screw up over Bath's new spa is a case in point. 10s of millions over budget, 3 years late and now they're in charge of rebuilding a significant part of the town centre. I dread to think what the result will be like or when it will actually be finished... Still, what can you expect from Conservatives. At least monkeys are a bit like humans and have a measure of intelligence. :rotfl:

What's Somerset like ? Always fancied going there and believe me, it couldn't be worse than the spot I'm in right now. Full of :doh: :doh: :doh: 's !

He means.....Dumbrians http://forums.randi.org/images/smilies/crazyeyes.gif http://www.abfnet.com/forum/images/smilies/odd.gif

[darius359au]

The bottom bit of the council letter says it all - "If you need this information in large print , Braille , Audio or another language , please contact me at the above address." :o

Whats funny , council had ONE complaint and they did this - who's the anti social ones? the village community or the one person that doesn't like it?

[August]

Thanks for the explaination. You English are a bit wierd but i'm still glad we're allies.

[STEED]

Thanks for the explaination. You English are a bit wierd but i'm still glad we're allies.

Close enough on the language and coffee drinkers. :up:

[Letum]

I bet the coucil had at sometime errected a notice bard in the village for things like this.
Every village round here has at least one notice board.

If not, they should have asked shops and/or pubs to put up the notices instead of
littering the streets with them.

[Knipper]

What's Somerset like ? Always fancied going there and believe me, it couldn't be worse than the spot I'm in right now. Full of :doh: :doh: :doh: 's !
Somerset is actually a pretty good place to live. The people are friendly, it's on the whole very rural with some beautiful scenery and there's lots of history here (Glastonbury, Roman Baths, Lacock Abbey etc). It's also good from the point of view that it's easy to source food locally. I can see next week's vegetables from my bedroom window (no, I'm not talking about the council). Everyone has their dumbrains however and Somerset has it's share. I won't name names, but there are a few areas that could be termed 'six-toe country' within 30 miles of here. The butt of dumbrain jokes round here tend to be farmers who, while a very laudible and hard-working bunch, do tend to have an unfortunate accent which (like where I come from in Birmingham) has become something of a stereotype for being a bit thick, but of course, it's not true. I offer the following a) as an illustration of what I mean and b) in their defence (no offence to our allies btw, it's just Texas is a big place.)

a) When a Somerset farmer was told by a government vet his flock of sheep had Bluetongue, he replied, "Blimey, Oy didn't even know they 'ad mobile phones...."

b) A Somerset farmer was showing a visiting Texan around his farm. He said, 'See them trees in the distance, moy faaarm goes all the way over there. Takes 45 minutes to drive to the edge of moy faaarm it do.' The Texan replied that back home, he could set off at dawn, drive until sunset and he still wouldn't have reached the edge of his ranch. 'Arrr,' said the farmer, 'Oy used to 'ave a car loyk that.'

I rest my case.

More seriously, the poster thing is really about maintaining village life. A lot of the villages round here have lost, or are losing their post offices, pubs and village shops, property prices have risen and an increasing proportion of 'villagers' aren't local, but keep a nice cottage in the countryside for week ends and holidays. As a result, local residents typically hold events, usually hung on a charity, just to maintain a sense of community. For the council to call this anti-social is, IMHO a scandal. Just the kind of petty bureaucracy that gets them local councillors a bad name. The people who put them up live in the area and usually take them dowwn again after the event, or some other local resident will. We're not talking fly-posters here, we're talking about resposible people trying to do something for their neighbours. :damn:

@August. Yep, we do weird pretty well in England, though we like to think of it as eccentricity :D

Royt moy luvver? (Somersetish for 'Hello')

[Letum]

We're not talking fly-posters here, we're talking about resposible people trying to do something for their neighbours.
In what way is it not flyposting?
Either they have secures the notices so they will be hard to remove cleanly, or they will be
liable to fall of in bad weather and litter the streets.

If you let some people off the hook you will just get more people doing it and the place will
end up looking like Edinburgh after the festival.

If there really are no pubs, shops or notice boards, no local radio or community events to
advertise at, then they can always put the leaflets through letter boxes as cancer recherche
charities often do where I am.

Even if they think the law is wrong, they know it is the law and so should complain about the
law it's self instead of complaining when it is enforced.

This topic should be titled "Clear up" rather than clear off!

[Knipper]

We're not talking fly-posters here, we're talking about resposible people trying to do something for their neighbours.
In what way is it not flyposting?
Either they have secures the notices so they will be hard to remove cleanly, or they will be
liable to fall of in bad weather and litter the streets.

If you let some people off the hook you will just get more people doing it and the place will
end up looking like Edinburgh after the festival.

If there really are no pubs, shops or notice boards, no local radio or community events to
advertise at, then they can always put the leaflets through letter boxes as cancer recherche
charities often do where I am.

Even if they think the law is wrong, they know it is the law and so should complain about the
law it's self instead of complaining when it is enforced.

This topic should be titled "Clear up" rather than clear off!

I do take your point about local radio Letum, but we're talking small scale stuff here. Just do a Google map search on Misterton, Somerset and you'll see what I mean. When I go into Bristol, I get hacked off with the millions of flyposters advertising everything from bands to weight-reduction products. I also get hacked off with the thousands of leaflets that come through my door every day. I guess the solution really is for councils to provide more notice boards in small rural communities.

[Tchocky]

I bet the coucil had at sometime errected a notice bard in the village for things like this.

I've got a beautiful mental image of a chap on a soapbox reciting local bye-laws in iambic pentametre :)

[Jimbuna]

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5817/01062speakerscornerrt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2253/02015speakerscornerok3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1986/02020speakerscorneril5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Knipper]

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5817/01062speakerscornerrt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Who's nicked my pint then!

[Kapitan]

Seems the local nut house must have had a power cut the other night which unlocked all thier cell doors, but dont worry people they will be quickly and effectivly rounded up.

Oh at the cost of your tax bill going up.

[Konovalov]

Just another average wacky day at Speakers' Corner, London. :lol:

[Jimbuna]

LOL :lol:

[Yahoshua]

Once in awhile those kinds of people can be very entertaining depending on how you push their buttons.:arrgh!:

[Konovalov]

Once in awhile those kinds of people can be very entertaining depending on how you push their buttons.:arrgh!:

Definately. :yep: I tend to grab myself a takeaway coffee then head over to Speakers' Corner for some free entertainment and laughs. :up:

[Letum]

Interview with one (http://www.b3ta.com/interview/winnerorsinner/)

The winner or sinner guy from London who passed away a while ago

[Knipper]

Interview with one (http://www.b3ta.com/interview/winnerorsinner/)

The winner or sinner guy from London who passed away a while ago
I've seen this guy. My London office is just off Oxford Circus and I've passed him loads of times. I think they slapped an ASBO on him or some other sort of restraining order becuse of the racket he was making with the megaphone. I'm well into freedom of belief, but he was a bit OTT for my and many other people's liking. :down:

[Letum]

Interview with one (http://www.b3ta.com/interview/winnerorsinner/)

The winner or sinner guy from London who passed away a while ago I've seen this guy. My London office is just off Oxford Circus and I've passed him loads of times. I think they slapped an ASBO on him or some other sort of restraining order becuse of the racket he was making with the megaphone. I'm well into freedom of belief, but he was a bit OTT for my and many other people's liking. :down:

Yup! he was certinaly....err....well known.

[Jimbuna]

Interview with one (http://www.b3ta.com/interview/winnerorsinner/)

The winner or sinner guy from London who passed away a while ago

Never met him....is he any of the ones from my original post ? :hmm:

[The Munster]

Anyone on a soapbox at Speakers Corner with 'Made in Dumbria' stamped on the forehead ?
@Jimbuna .. great Smileys, hit the nail on the head with em'. Can't beat a good laugh :rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

Anyone on a soapbox at Speakers Corner with 'Made in Dumbria' stamped on the forehead ?
@Jimbuna .. great Smileys, hit the nail on the head with em'. Can't beat a good laugh :rotfl:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9950/2193dx3.gif

[STEED]

They should point out why you the voter is allowing those pigs at Westminster to walk over you?

Stopwatch on stand by to see how long it will take the under cover police to arrest them.

[The Munster]

Anyone on a soapbox at Speakers Corner with 'Made in Dumbria' stamped on the forehead ?
@Jimbuna .. great Smileys, hit the nail on the head with em'. Can't beat a good laugh :rotfl:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9950/2193dx3.gif

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

@STEED .. Moon Base Alpha ? Ain't that Space 1999 :hmm:

[STEED]

@STEED .. Moon Base Alpha ? Ain't that Space 1999 :hmm:

Indeed. ;) :yep:

Apart from myself Skybird is also a fan. :D

[Jimbuna]

@STEED .. Moon Base Alpha ? Ain't that Space 1999 :hmm:

Indeed. ;) :yep:

Apart from myself Skybird is also a fan. :D

Always had you down as a sort of...........................Mysteron :hmm:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5379/mysteroncitymedpn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[STEED]

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[Jimbuna]

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