Need Some Opinions on a Matter

[Stealth Hunter]

My nephew and I were having a chat the other day (really like him, as I've mentioned before; bright and handsome kid; freshman in high school) and he got on the subject of school. He does just fine in it (A's and B's), and he came to the subject of gym class.

The conclusion I can draw off his gym teacher is that he's a grade-A idiot. The man apparently flirts with two girls that go to the school (tries on sun glasses that they bring, talks with them all the time, lets them do their hair, you get the picture). They have only dressed out twice to participate, and he (my nephew) doesn't know much more than that about them (other than there's about a 25-year difference in ages there, or so he estimates). Anyway, this guy never works out with the kids, he never really cares what they say (thousands of times kids have cursed in front of him, even uttering words such as "*******" and "s**t" and he's never done a thing to get after them for it), and other kids, according to my nephew, also must agree that the man is just stupid.

So now I'm asking you guys what you think when you hear about his gym teacher.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

try to get your nephew to record some of it, and report it to the school administration or the school board.. get his ass fired! :shifty:

[silentrunner]

try to get your nephew to record some of it, and report it to the school administration or the school board.. get his ass fired! :shifty:Yeah thats just about the soundest thing to do.

[Stealth Hunter]

That's what I'm thinking about. Doubtful that they will fire him (small town of only about 5,500 people), but they would at least get on his ass. I'll talk more with him tomorrow and see if we can work something out against this guy.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Do some good old fashioned investigating. Get a few of your friends together and watch the sucker.

[TteFAboB]

I know a gym teacher who used to do the same. He was very "friendly" to the girls, picked the smaller ones on the lap, invented some jokes which involved contact with the older ones, etc.

Well, the sub teacher, who was after his job, decided to report him as a pedophile, and the school, deciding to play safe, fired the guy, hiring the sub in his place.

So before you report him, if you do, offer yourself as a sub teacher first, and then report.

:hmm: :-?

[Stealth Hunter]

There's a girl's gym teacher, too, and she doesn't do anything to stop it, either.

[sonar732]

I think that the gym teacher is a standard P.E. teacher in high school. More than likely, he's on the coaching staff of some type of sport at the school and hears that language all of the time...probably says it more than the regular P.E. class does while he's shouting at the team.

My gym teachers never worked out with us, but that didn't sway my respect for those teachers. As for the favortism towards the girls...you'll have that no matter what class he's in. Shoot...my wife tells me all of the time how she never turned in homework in one of her classes, but always came out with at least a 'C'...and it was a woman teacher before you comment on sexism.

EDIT: With all of the new teacher-student sex scandels, you need to be careful as you have someone's career on the line because he "flirts" with the girls. If the evidence is slapping them in the face, then the administrators need to know about it, but if it's because someone feels they aren't treated as well as the others...take heed as it will come back to haunt you.

One more thing that I grew up with...It's a cruel world out there. Which brings me to an awesome quote that I gave to my former supervisor who I admired greatly and my step-son from Rocky Balboa.

Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get it and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody! Cowards do that and that ain't you! You're better than that!

[Stealth Hunter]

True is that.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

Tru dat.


...someone a fan of rap music???..:damn:

[Stealth Hunter]

Hell no. I'd assume to first rip out my stereo than listen to rap.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

good... then say "thats true" instead of "tru dat"... rap music degrades english and society.. lets get rid of it:arrgh!:

[AVGWarhawk]

1. Make sure your nephew is speaking the truth, ie. Not some personal dislike for the teacher. Reason is, once the accusations get out, it will be over for the gym teacher. This is serious business and can ruin a persons livelihood. The gym teacher will be a marked man. So, it is imperative you discuss this with your nephew and what he is telling you can and will be substanciated by others in the school.

2. Approach the principal if step one checks out. If he or she attempts to brush it under the carpet, contact the county school board on the matter. At this stage, the principal should be taking this seriously. This is no joke and the young girls could be in real trouble.

3. Be prepared to hear from other students parents. Prepare to carry this to the end if it comes to that.

[Onkel Neal]

My nephew and I were having a chat the other day (really like him, as I've mentioned before; bright and handsome kid; freshman in high school) and he got on the subject of school. He does just fine in it (A's and B's), and he came to the subject of gym class.

The conclusion I can draw off his gym teacher is that he's a grade-A idiot. The man apparently flirts with two girls that go to the school (tries on sun glasses that they bring, talks with them all the time, lets them do their hair, you get the picture). They have only dressed out twice to participate, and he (my nephew) doesn't know much more than that about them (other than there's about a 25-year difference in ages there, or so he estimates). Anyway, this guy never works out with the kids, he never really cares what they say (thousands of times kids have cursed in front of him, even uttering words such as "*******" and "s**t" and he's never done a thing to get after them for it), and other kids, according to my nephew, also must agree that the man is just stupid.

So now I'm asking you guys what you think when you hear about his gym teacher.

What grade is he getting in gym?

[Skybird]

1. Approach in silence, observe, and collect more info.
2. If the collected data suggests it, strike.
3. If it does not, break contact.

For striking, you need to check out the situation yourself and not depend on hearsay only - even if it is coming from your nephew. You cannot look into your nephew's mind, and he may be effected by those girls himself in any way. Eventually you may want to engage a private investigator to scan the man's biography, especially regarding past school jobs.

[bookworm_020]

As said above, check it out for yourself. Hearing it second hand is never the best way to go. Be sure before you say anything, a false report from you can do both damage to you and the bloke if he's inocent.

For all involved, I hope that your Nephew was seeing it wrong, but if not, best of luck!

[Stealth Hunter]

My nephew and I were having a chat the other day (really like him, as I've mentioned before; bright and handsome kid; freshman in high school) and he got on the subject of school. He does just fine in it (A's and B's), and he came to the subject of gym class.

The conclusion I can draw off his gym teacher is that he's a grade-A idiot. The man apparently flirts with two girls that go to the school (tries on sun glasses that they bring, talks with them all the time, lets them do their hair, you get the picture). They have only dressed out twice to participate, and he (my nephew) doesn't know much more than that about them (other than there's about a 25-year difference in ages there, or so he estimates). Anyway, this guy never works out with the kids, he never really cares what they say (thousands of times kids have cursed in front of him, even uttering words such as "*******" and "s**t" and he's never done a thing to get after them for it), and other kids, according to my nephew, also must agree that the man is just stupid.

So now I'm asking you guys what you think when you hear about his gym teacher.

What grade is he getting in gym?

A- (missed only like 2 days, though; can't make it up; he's happy with it).

I'm slowly creating a plan. Thanks for the feedback, guys. AVG's idea was especially helpful (no discouragement intended to anyone else).

As a note, he said that the gym teacher spends a lot of time around the girls (he talks with the a lot; I called him about an hour ago and he said that today, for instance, he spent the entire period sitting on the stands in the gym chatting with them, as he does just about everyday; today was also the instance of the sunglasses).

[August]

good... then say "thats true" instead of "tru dat"... rap music degrades english and society.. lets get rid of it:arrgh!:

So does your atrocious lack of capitalization...

[Stealth Hunter]

Indeed.:lol:

Don't take that in an attack manner, however.

[Onkel Neal]

So now I'm asking you guys what you think when you hear about his gym teacher.

What grade is he getting in gym?

A- (missed only like 2 days, though; can't make it up; he's happy with it).



If your son is making an A- in gym class, I wouldn't do anything at all.

[JSLTIGER]

So now I'm asking you guys what you think when you hear about his gym teacher.
What grade is he getting in gym?
A- (missed only like 2 days, though; can't make it up; he's happy with it).


If your son is making an A- in gym class, I wouldn't do anything at all.

Agreed.

[mcf1]

your nephew is right, the man is really stupid

[StdDev]

My nephew and I were having a chat the other day (really like him, as I've mentioned before; bright and handsome kid; freshman in high school) and he got on the subject of school. He does just fine in it (A's and B's), and he came to the subject of gym class.

The conclusion I can draw off his gym teacher is that he's a grade-A idiot. The man apparently flirts with two girls that go to the school (tries on sun glasses that they bring, talks with them all the time, lets them do their hair, you get the picture). They have only dressed out twice to participate, and he (my nephew) doesn't know much more than that about them (other than there's about a 25-year difference in ages there, or so he estimates). Anyway, this guy never works out with the kids, he never really cares what they say (thousands of times kids have cursed in front of him, even uttering words such as "*******" and "s**t" and he's never done a thing to get after them for it), and other kids, according to my nephew, also must agree that the man is just stupid.

So now I'm asking you guys what you think when you hear about his gym teacher.

Have you considered scheduling an appointment with the Gym teacher?
Have a talk with the guy.. perhaps he is not really a Klingon.. he might just be.. umm "somewhere else".
Do any of your nephew's class mates feel the same?
If so.. bring this up too!

If no satisfaction can be gained this way.. the only options left to you are the heavy guns.. ie complain to the sschool administration with a threat to go to the school board.

[Skybird]

Have you considered scheduling an appointment with the Gym teacher?
Have a talk with the guy..
I would not recommend to do so on the basis of hearsay only. Do that eventually only when you have collected some info yourself. Prematurely confront him could be very offending if he is innocent, and it could eventually backfire (towards your nephew) when you cannot bolster your case. So, try to get info and see yourself, but do it in stealth mode. If yoiu find something, okay, take action. If you don't, you can withdraw without anyone needing to feel offended.

[StdDev]

Have you considered scheduling an appointment with the Gym teacher?
Have a talk with the guy..
I would not recommend to do so on the basis of hearsay only. Do that eventually only when you have collected some info yourself. Prematurely confront him could be very offending if he is innocent, and it could eventually backfire (towards your nephew) when you cannot bolster your case. So, try to get info and see yourself, but do it in stealth mode. If yoiu find something, okay, take action. If you don't, you can withdraw without anyone needing to feel offended.

I dont recommend confrontation at all!!
If the kids have this perception of what he is and what is going on.. talk to him about that!
The students perception of his behaviour can be a very serious thing..
Approach the meeting as if the teacher were your friend.. you might be (and very probably are) doing him a huge favour!

[Skybird]

Have you considered scheduling an appointment with the Gym teacher?
Have a talk with the guy..
I would not recommend to do so on the basis of hearsay only. Do that eventually only when you have collected some info yourself. Prematurely confront him could be very offending if he is innocent, and it could eventually backfire (towards your nephew) when you cannot bolster your case. So, try to get info and see yourself, but do it in stealth mode. If yoiu find something, okay, take action. If you don't, you can withdraw without anyone needing to feel offended.

I dont recommend confrontation at all!!
If the kids have this perception of what he is and what is going on.. talk to him about that!
The students perception of his behaviour can be a very serious thing..
Approach the meeting as if the teacher were your friend.. you might be (and very probably are) doing him a huge favour!
No confrontation at all? No, that is no priority for me. If he is a bad boy trying to behave dirty, then he must be confronted, and removed from school service alltogether. Priority is not to confront him if he does not derserve it, means: not to kill his reputation if he is innocent. But if he is guilty of doing somethign wrong and maby since a long time, I do not care for his reputation. For teachers' relation to schoolkids, special standards must obeyed, due to the dependency and weakness of the latter that is is even said in German laws, and I am sure there is something similiar in american laws. If SH's nephew is right, the man'S behavior is unacceptable and not just a minor mishap. If his nephew sees it wrong, there is no reason at all to make waves and ashame him, and damage his public reputation. we don't know his nephew, and his relation to the teacher, and the girls. that'S why SH must check the thing himself, not just trust his nephew'S feedback.

So far the teacher is a suspect by SH's nephew's words, not proven innocent, not proven guilty. Where does it lead if a suspect is given the opportunity to clean his traces by telling him that he has become subject to investigations? that is idiotic, and counter-productive, to say the least.

I also have no imnterest to approach him as a friend - if he is a dirty man, he does not deserve that, then, and nevertheless must be removed if he has a soft spot for young chicks - that "hobby" is not acceptable in his job. He the better should have hidden it from day one on, until the end of his career. If his behavior is being descrobed correctly, it shows that he is not able or not willing to do that, and that means: he is a significant risk.

[AVGWarhawk]

It needs to be handled through proper channels Skybird. It is up to the school to make the investigations. The nephews name need not to be brought up before, during and after the investigation. I suspect the nephew is not making this up. What the gym teach sees a perfectly innocent, in reality is not. Furthermore, it could and probably will turn into not so innocent. If a young kid can recognize something is wrong with the actions( a bit too friendly) of the gym teacher, then there is something wrong. Even so, the gym teacher will be made aware that other students and now the principal office has been contacted about the situation. Perhaps it stops there.


Quite frankly, playing with the female students sunglasses and wearing them is purely flirting that will lead to other things. This is not how adults(teachers) conduct themselves concerning students.

[Stealth Hunter]

Indeed. I must totally agree with AVG.

The plans are in place. I'm prepared to move on into the matter when this coming Monday arrives. My nephew is a very honest kid. I don't think he's lying. The details that he described were so precise that it's hard to believe he was making it up.

And I'm not going to directly contact the principal first. This school should be noted for attempting to cover things like this up. There's a small door that leads into the gym that has two medium-sized windows. I checked the area out last night (after everyone was gone) to map out my "plan of attack" (lol). I've got a camera that takes both pictures and video footage. I should be able to get a pass without much hassle (done it before) and then be able to legally record the actions of the teacher. Assuming they do try to cover it up, I'll throw the pass and the videos at them. If they refuse to listen, them I'm sure the local PD would be interested in hearing what they're up to...

Everything is set to go.

[Seth8530]

I had a gym teacher just like that last year. But in addition he would always return from his office with sunglasses on and forgetting everything he said. Earning him the name red eye rick.

[Stealth Hunter]

Everything worked out perfectly. Got the pass to enter the school grounds (which I still have), got the video footage, and the photographs. Caught the moron red-handed and better yet, I have audio proof! (My nephew strapped on a recorder to take down everything the teacher said, and it's not looking good for him.)