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Mush Martin
01-16-08, 10:46 AM
What is the longest submarine in the world?

one of my janes books lists the DeltaIII sub K-433
as being involved in active underwater research
with an extension plug put in of 164 ft

that would bring her overall length to approx. 689ft.
or so at a guess.

Ive been unable to confirm this anywhere does anybody
have anything on this.

if so she would be longer than a typhoon by roughly 126 ft.

Is that right ??? lets find out.
my reference is in this case

"Janes submarines war beneath the waves"
'from 1776 to the present day'
by Robert Hutchinson
from Harper and Collins.

sonar732
01-16-08, 11:18 AM
one of my janes books lists the DeltaIII sub K-433
as being involved in active underwater research
with an extension plug put in of 164 ft


aka...spy sub.

geetrue
01-16-08, 11:48 AM
my janes books lists the DeltaIII sub K-433
as being involved in active underwater research
with an extension plug put in of 164 ft

that would bring her overall length to approx. 689ft.
or so at a guess.


It would take two WWII fleet boats welded together to be that long ...

But like in any contest that measures how big lol

You have to measure the wideth and the depth and the gross displacement surfaced and submerged.

The real test of course comes in the ability to do her job properly ...

Kapitan
01-16-08, 04:28 PM
Typhoon:

654feet 4 inchs long
82 feet 2inch wide
33.3 feet draft

33,600 tonnes displacement surfaced
47,980 tonnes displacement submerged

by far the biggest submarine yet built.

Kapitan
01-16-08, 04:29 PM
Only russian built submarine used for civil purposes is a modified yankee, it is manned by a multi national crew of scientific research, but still not as long as the typhoon.

Mush Martin
01-16-08, 05:52 PM
Well thats what I wouldve thought this morning Kapitan but Janes is
usually pretty reliable as a source. further though I would never argue
the supremecy of gross tonnage and useable space in typhoon.

in this case I am speaking though specifically about length
and so far I can find niether evidence to support or disprove it.
I am intrigued to say the least.

M

Sailor Steve
01-16-08, 05:53 PM
Typhoon:

654feet 4 inchs long
82 feet 2inch wide
33.3 feet draft

33,600 tonnes displacement surfaced
47,980 tonnes displacement submerged

by far the biggest submarine yet built.
Well, let's see, that's:

128 feet longer, about the same beam and almost 15,000 tons heavier than the 1906 battleship HMS Dreadnought;

Only 233 feet shorter than USS Iowa.




Pretty big for a boat.

Mush Martin
01-17-08, 09:20 AM
[Bump] still looking for any info on this.

SmokinTep
01-17-08, 10:13 AM
The “Typhoon” itself was included in the Guinness Record Book at beginning of the 1980s. Its total displacement makes up about 33,000 tons; it carries 24 ballistic missiles capable of being launched underwater. Six submarines of this kind were constructed in Severodvinsk. The sub launched today is the oldest of its kind: it is already more than twenty years old. The unique sub was a response to the US’s construction of the “Ohio” nuclear submarine with 24 ballistic missiles on board. However, the “Typhoon,” constructed at Russia’s famous design bureau Rubin under the guidance of famous designer Spassky, surpassed the “Ohio”: The “Typhoon” is still the largest submarine in the world.

Kapitan
01-17-08, 11:30 AM
The “Typhoon” itself was included in the Guinness Record Book at beginning of the 1980s. Its total displacement makes up about 33,000 tons; it carries 24 ballistic missiles capable of being launched underwater. Six submarines of this kind were constructed in Severodvinsk. The sub launched today is the oldest of its kind: it is already more than twenty years old. The unique sub was a response to the US’s construction of the “Ohio” nuclear submarine with 24 ballistic missiles on board. However, the “Typhoon,” constructed at Russia’s famous design bureau Rubin under the guidance of famous designer Spassky, surpassed the “Ohio”: The “Typhoon” is still the largest submarine in the world.

Sorry to say this but the infor is wrong, surfaced the typhoon displaces 33, 600 tonnes and submerged 47,980 tonnes submerged, she carrrys just 20 missiles (SS-N-20) and they are younger than ohio they were designed to compete with ohio right from the word go. the oldest unit dmitri donskoy TK208 was launched in 1977 which makes her 31 years old.

Mush Martin
01-17-08, 01:16 PM
So far after twenty four hours all I can find is this mention
on Haze Gray and Underway.

Disposals/Reserve: K-441 and K-424 stricken 1996, K-129 stricken 1995, K-433 gutted for probable conversion to a "research" (special operations) or DSRV transport submarine, but there is no evidence that this work has been carried out. 6 of the 11 units listed below are also stricken or unservicable, specific identities not known.

Still it doesnt seem authoritative.

Still looking for info.
M

Mush Martin
01-18-08, 05:28 PM
Last Bump and I give up.
M

Kapitan
01-18-08, 08:41 PM
I am still having a good old look at my documents and things, push comes to shuv might be able to ring my stepdad and see whats what but theres no garentee he will tell me though, thats assuming he knows bear in mind he is mainly dealing with auxilaries and surface ships.

Mush Martin
01-19-08, 05:01 AM
I am starting to suspect that Janes reported a proposed project
as a completed project.

still if you find anything Kapitan please let me know and thanks of
course for the effort.
M