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Onkel Neal
01-12-08, 01:33 PM
I'm getting a lot of heat over political sigs. Without getting knee-deep in the whole free speech/where-the-line-is debate, let me make some suggestions.

The first goal of the Subsim forums is to foster a civil community, where people enjoy each other's company, help each other, and basically act as if they will see each other in the pub a few hours later. So if you want to show your love for your homeland, sports team, or political cause, fine, but don't attack others.

If you have a political sig and you think it may be close to the line, do not "show signature" in non-GT forums. A lot of people never come to the General Topics forum, and when they see you posting with some inflammatory political sig, they will be offended. If they object and report your post, you could have your sig rights turned off. Don't bother appealing, neither the moderators nor I have the time or interest in negotiating on a one-to-one basis with you on this. I had one cat with a sig that was way too wrong; I PMed him and politely asked him to change it. He put a big non-historical swastika in its place. I don't have time for that crap. Bottom line: there are 186 million other forums where you can tell people what idiots they are, this ain't one of them.

Finally, if you see a sig that offends you, weigh how much it bothers you by the number of times you see it against going to the trouble of reporting it. As you can imagine, we cannot please everyone and if your Bad Sig report is not acted upon, don't take it personally.

Neal

Takeda Shingen
01-12-08, 03:39 PM
Yes, indeed. Let's all try to remember why we came here: Submarine simulations. Politics is extra-curricular here.

Kapitan_Phillips
01-12-08, 04:40 PM
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but what are some examples of such signatures?

Penelope_Grey
01-12-08, 05:09 PM
<serious mode>Examples... signatures that look like they are promoting a certain political cause... lets say if you came on here with a Plaid Cymru signature and I'm a staunch Labour supporter... I might not like that signature much.

Personally, I couldn't agree with Neal more... if you ask me... political and religious banners of any kind should be left at the door when you log on.</serious mode>

Politics and religion are subjects that should not be discussed between friends....I guess thats why people in the Snake pit here (GT) have no friends.:rotfl:

JSLTIGER
01-12-08, 05:16 PM
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but what are some examples of such signatures?

Look up any post by elite_hunter_sh3.

STEED
01-12-08, 05:22 PM
STEED checks his, none all clear. :D

Kapitan
01-12-08, 05:31 PM
The little wavy flags are ok aint they? provided it isnt a nazi communist or something of that nature?

STEED
01-12-08, 05:38 PM
The little wavy flags are ok aint they? provided it isnt a nazi communist or something of that nature?

@Kap

You forgot the EU Flag. ;) :lol:

Jimbuna
01-12-08, 05:46 PM
You should play safe STEED....and hoist a white flag http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img50/3402/tonguegs0.gif

STEED
01-12-08, 05:53 PM
You should play safe STEED....and hoist a white flag http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img50/3402/tonguegs0.gif

Surrender to PC Madness!!! :o

NEVER :yep:

Onkel Neal
01-12-08, 07:17 PM
The little wavy flags are ok aint they? provided it isnt a nazi communist or something of that nature?


Yes, very ok. :yep: You are correct.

It's always difficult to draw the line on what it allowable and what is not. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, and the differences often make for great discussion. I often learn from people with a different take on things. I call it open-minded, some would say it's wishy-washy. So it goes. :)

SteminDemon13
01-12-08, 07:52 PM
Well, who's signatures are bad?
I think mine is ok

GlobalExplorer
01-12-08, 07:57 PM
Look up any post by elite_hunter_sh3.

Yes, and AvonLady.

GlobalExplorer
01-12-08, 08:03 PM
To clarify, I would prefer if anything other than a flag of ones nation would be banned. No dickhead paroles or links to sites promoting political drivel that is only meant to be provoking. We all have our opinions but that doesnt mean we have to shout them into our faces all the time. Think of those morons who put political paroles on their cars, that should be forbidden as well.

Jimbuna
01-12-08, 08:04 PM
You should play safe STEED....and hoist a white flag http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img50/3402/tonguegs0.gif

Surrender to PC Madness!!! :o

NEVER :yep:

LOL :up:

fatty
01-12-08, 08:11 PM
I guess maybe I won't be submitting after all :-?

Kapitan_Phillips
01-12-08, 08:39 PM
Politics and religion are subjects that should not be discussed between friends....I guess thats why people in the Snake pit here (GT) have no friends.:rotfl:


:cry::cry::cry:

silentrunner
01-12-08, 09:42 PM
Is my sig ok?

lesrae
01-13-08, 01:55 AM
I've got the profile option selected not to show any sigs - not really because they offend (although some are slightly OTT) but just because it loads pages ever so slightly quicker.

Stealth Hunter
01-13-08, 01:59 AM
Is my sig ok?

I take offense to it!:rotfl:

Letum
01-13-08, 03:26 AM
Is my sig ok?

Well, yes, but perhaps a little tall. The hight regulation is a max of 120 pixels tall.
It seams to be somewhat a guideline, but all the same, yours is dubble that.

Rotary Crewman
01-13-08, 04:46 AM
No dickhead paroles or links to sites promoting political drivel that is only meant to be provoking.

The RAF may produce some political drivel but I think my link to them should stay :yep:

Stealth Hunter
01-13-08, 05:34 AM
And thus the makings of Hitler were formed.


Just got to thinking about college lessons again. But back to the topic, I say we keep the RAF's sites.

Takeda Shingen
01-13-08, 07:37 AM
I think what Neal is getting at is as follows:

Iranian flag: Okay
Iranian flag with links to militant websites and invoking the slogan Israel is EEEEVILLL: Not Okay

Israeli flag: Okay
Israeli flag with links to pro-Zionism websites and invoking the slogan Destroy all Muslims!!!1!!: Not Okay

If everyone uses common sense, then everyone will be okay.

Jimbuna
01-13-08, 10:45 AM
Ever the optimist ;)

TteFAboB
01-13-08, 10:52 AM
I think what Neal is getting at is as follows:

...

If everyone uses common sense, then everyone will be okay.

That's all fine on paper, but where can I get one of these "common sense" of yours for myself?

clayp
01-13-08, 12:36 PM
This is the last thing I'm going to say....Because of my religion the sig in question is extremely offensive to me...It is anti Semitic and raciest and has nothing to do with free speech..I'm am going to have to stop useing the SubSim forum because of it...:down:

Kapitan_Phillips
01-13-08, 12:55 PM
I guess maybe I won't be submitting after all :-?

The only thing offensive about that burger is the fact I dont have one. :88)

SUBMAN1
01-13-08, 01:33 PM
And thus the makings of Hitler were formed.


Just got to thinking about college lessons again. But back to the topic, I say we keep the RAF's sites.Hey SH - what flag is that? I don't recognize it right off.

-S

Penelope_Grey
01-13-08, 02:58 PM
Politics and religion are subjects that should not be discussed between friends....I guess thats why people in the Snake pit here (GT) have no friends.:rotfl:

:cry::cry::cry:
Did you have to do that?!

Now you made me feel all guilty:oops:

Kapitan_Phillips
01-13-08, 03:27 PM
Politics and religion are subjects that should not be discussed between friends....I guess thats why people in the Snake pit here (GT) have no friends.:rotfl:

:cry::cry::cry:
Did you have to do that?!

Now you made me feel all guilty:oops:


Yes, yes I did. :rotfl:

FIREWALL
01-13-08, 04:18 PM
I guess maybe I won't be submitting after all :-?

The only thing offensive about that burger is the fact I dont have one. :88)


What he said. :yep: Mmmm..... Burgers

Stealth Hunter
01-13-08, 04:48 PM
Hey SH - what flag is that? I don't recognize it right off.

-S

Iran. Bit too big, but it works.

bookworm_020
01-13-08, 05:49 PM
I guess maybe I won't be submitting after all :-?
The only thing offensive about that burger is the fact I dont have one. :88)

Or that you Big Mac is bigger than mine!

Back to topic: I agree with what the moderators have said.:yep: I do hope people will play it smart in the future....:hmm::huh: Sorry, I should have known better, but I haven't had my weat bix yet.:roll:

Hakahura
01-13-08, 06:31 PM
The RAF may produce some political drivel but I think my link to them should stay :yep:

Why, you trying to get your "Grab a Recruit" bonus?
:rotfl:

Oberon
01-13-08, 07:16 PM
Mine might be offensive to Luftwaffe pilots.... :hmm:

sonar732
01-13-08, 09:00 PM
This situation of "free speech and equal rights" has brought back a memory.

Right after 9-11, I was working for an ISP tech support division. This was when the anti-spamming feelings started to flood the airwaves and internet. Our network admin used his linux tools and kept track of the ip numbers of those who flooded the network with emails. Well, once they reached a max, he would shut off their internet until they signed a memorandum that they would stop spamming. He got into quite a few arguements about free speech with them.

Good times, good times.

Anyway, along the lines of common sense...we are all talking about the GT forum right? :hmm::hmm::rotfl::rotfl:

Perfect example is saying how a president needs to be assasinated...looks around for the secret service black ties.

Reaves
01-13-08, 09:16 PM
http://mirror.dansays.com/images/turdsandwich.gif

Stealth Hunter
01-14-08, 03:01 AM
Hi-dee-ho you South Parketeers!

STEED
01-14-08, 10:51 AM
And thus the makings of Hitler were formed.


Just got to thinking about college lessons again. But back to the topic, I say we keep the RAF's sites.Hey SH - what flag is that? I don't recognize it right off.

-S

Could be the EU Flag. :hmm: :roll:

geetrue
01-14-08, 11:56 AM
I would like to see a sub sim flag with battle stars for the years each member has been here ... I'll never forget that japanese dude with the naked girl in his sig. :o

That fight went on for months ... ah the good ole days :yep:

GlobalExplorer
01-14-08, 02:48 PM
I would like to see a sub sim flag with battle stars for the years each member has been here ... I'll never forget that japanese dude with the naked girl in his sig. :o

That fight went on for months ... ah the good ole days :yep:

Why don't you tell some more, sounds like it could become a hilarious story ..

Takeda Shingen
01-14-08, 05:33 PM
I'll never forget that japanese dude with the naked girl in his sig. :o

He wasn't even Japanese. He moved there from Ohio. He also listed his personal stats (6'1'', 178 lbs, etc.) in his profile. Also, his occupation listing was nearly a paragraph.

Spoon 11th
01-14-08, 06:01 PM
I'll never forget that japanese dude with the naked girl in his sig. :o

He wasn't even Japanese. He moved there from Ohio. He also listed his personal stats (6'1'', 178 lbs, etc.) in his profile. Also, his occupation listing was nearly a paragraph.
Was it even naked? I remember some pixel count controversy.

sonar732
01-14-08, 06:11 PM
I'll never forget that japanese dude with the naked girl in his sig. :o
He wasn't even Japanese. He moved there from Ohio. He also listed his personal stats (6'1'', 178 lbs, etc.) in his profile. Also, his occupation listing was nearly a paragraph.

Oh...that's classic. A man thinking Subsim was his personal ad? It might just be me, but I think he was in the wrong site.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

U49
01-14-08, 06:12 PM
I would like to see a sub sim flag with battle stars for the years each member has been here

That would be a cool gimmick :yep:

Ducimus
01-14-08, 06:30 PM
I have to admit, some of the sigs were getting a little extreme. (edit: although mine might be a little big, need to resize that i think)

Stealth Hunter
01-15-08, 01:15 AM
I'll never forget that japanese dude with the naked girl in his sig. :o

He wasn't even Japanese. He moved there from Ohio. He also listed his personal stats (6'1'', 178 lbs, etc.) in his profile. Also, his occupation listing was nearly a paragraph.

Wookin' pa nub in ahl da whong paces;
Wookin' pa nub . . . :rotfl: