A very nice Heligoland island!

[froschman]

On my previous missions in GWX 2.0 I have passed Heligoland either in darkness or in foggy
and rainy weather. This time it was on midday a sunny day.
What a difference compared to the flat and barren island in the standard SH3! Now a populated
island rises hight out of the sea with a realistic harbour. It looks very good, I have
compared with photos on Internet. I did enjoy my flying across it with the free camera when
passing on my way out to the Atlantic. Thank you, GWX team!
:up:

[Blacklight]

Yeah ! I was VERY impressed with Heligoland when I drove near the south side of it yesterday. Was this added in 2.0 ? I don't recall seeing the little port there before.

[Brag]

I've nejoyed a lot of the GWX sight seeing but never passed close to Heligoland. :cry:

[U49]

I've nejoyed a lot of the GWX sight seeing but never passed close to Heligoland. :cry:

If you know the real island, your joy will be even more....

@GWX Devs: FANTASTIC view! I enjoy it every time I pass by. :up:

[Schwuppes]

btw... its Helgoland, without the "I" :know:

[U49]

btw... its Helgoland, without the "I" :know:

:yep: You are correct!

And neither "munich" nor "cologne" exist. They are called MÜNCHEN and KÖLN....but *sigh* ... what should we do about it ...?

[joegrundman]

Well the indian's managed to assert their vernacular pronunciations of Bombay and Calcutta on the rest of the world, and the Turks did with their version of Constantinople, so i dare say you can assert your national spellings on the rest of the world too. If you care enough to, that is.

Personally i like the fact that Milano in English is Milan and in german is Mailand, Venizia is Venice is Venedig etc ..there is history in these different spellings.

I guess I'll have to stop by Heligoland to check it out:up:

[bigboywooly]

Glad you like it
Tis TigerKatziTatzi's terrain improvement from way back
As the terrain files are huge I could only add the improvement to GWX 2 as the terrain files HAD to be included anyway

[OuNiS]

I saw it too.
I sailed around this island two times.
Very nice texture and harbour stuff!
Good work!

[Jimbuna]

One of the SP missions is based there 'April Fool' :up:

[Sailor Steve]

btw... its Helgoland, without the "I" :know:
:yep: You are correct!

And neither "munich" nor "cologne" exist. They are called MÜNCHEN and KÖLN....but *sigh* ... what should we do about it ...?
Well, it does belong to Germany, and their pronunciation and spelling are the correct ones, but the British always called it 'Heligoland', so that is sort of acceptable.

So...is it 'Peiping', 'Peking' or 'Beijing'?:rotfl:

[U49]

btw... its Helgoland, without the "I" :know:
:yep: You are correct!

And neither "munich" nor "cologne" exist. They are called MÜNCHEN and KÖLN....but *sigh* ... what should we do about it ...?
Well, it does belong to Germany, and their pronunciation and spelling are the correct ones, but the British always called it 'Heligoland', so that is sort of acceptable.

So...is it 'Peiping', 'Peking' or 'Beijing'?:rotfl:

No idea myself :hmm:
Anyone from that area in this forum?
Wikipedia advises "Bejing" as it's native name.... I would gladly use it :yep:

[papa_smurf]

I too like the new Heligoland - On every patrol that starts from Wilhelmshaven, I always go past it to admire the view.

[bert8for3]

Don't know about the accuracy, but Wikipedia has a decent article about it ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heligoland

[Sailor Steve]

So...is it 'Peiping', 'Peking' or 'Beijing'?:rotfl:
No idea myself :hmm:
Anyone from that area in this forum?
Wikipedia advises "Bejing" as it's native name.... I would gladly use it :yep:
Of course I was joking. It's gone from the first to the last over the years. As I understand it, it changes depending on the dialect of the party in charge at the time.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

:D
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/KptLehmann/heligolandgwx2.jpg

[Blacklight]

Be careful about going around Heligoland after mid December, 1939. I just got a radio message that the British dropped minefields all around the island and off to it's west.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Be careful about going around Heligoland after mid December, 1939. I just got a radio message that the British dropped minefields all around the island and off to it's west.

Teehee! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jonathan]

It looks very nice. I have not seen it in game.

[Pablo]

So...is it 'Peiping', 'Peking' or 'Beijing'?:rotfl:
No idea myself :hmm:
Anyone from that area in this forum?
Wikipedia advises "Bejing" as it's native name.... I would gladly use it :yep: Of course I was joking. It's gone from the first to the last over the years. As I understand it, it changes depending on the dialect of the party in charge at the time. Hi!

It's native name is "北京" (I hope that appeared properly) but the transliteration has changed over time. The current official transliteration is "Beijing" but it was "Peking" from 1906 through 1979. Wikipedia has a fairly good write-up (with useful hotlinks, including pronunciation) on it here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing).

Pablo

[Blacklight]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacklight
Be careful about going around Heligoland after mid December, 1939. I just got a radio message that the British dropped minefields all around the island and off to it's west.


Teehee! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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You GWX Dev's are both awesome... and sinister at the same time.:dead:

[PhantomLord]

Be careful about going around Heligoland after mid December, 1939. I just got a radio message that the British dropped minefields all around the island and off to it's west.

Too late! :D
Followed 2 homecoming destroyers, passing the southside of Helgoland.... BOOM!

Result:

- three men dead
- forward compartment heavy damaged
- sitting on the bottom for hours of repair time
- entered port too late... all the bars were already closed :damn:

[Jimbuna]

LOL :rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

Oh, quit whining and consider yourself lucky. If the game was realistic you'd be dead now, and your entire crew lost.




Virtually speaking, of course.:rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

Oh, quit whining and consider yourself lucky. If the game was realistic you'd be dead now, and your entire crew lost.




Virtually speaking, of course.:rotfl:

........and the fish feed on the bodies of your crew :o




Virtually speaking, of course. :rotfl:

[Graf Paper]

Yep, Helgoland is indeed awesome...and a ghost island, too!

Seriously! I was passing near the island, but well outside any visual range, a few patrols back. I figured I'd zoom over in free camera mode to admire the scenery once again. When I got there it spooked me to see buildings and gun fortifications floating in mid-air but with the proper elevations like the hills were still under them! Ships floating at non-existent docks, too! The island had disappeared into THE UNKNOWN! :huh:

<cue dramatic, spooky music>

Stay away from the Bavarian Triangle!! :eek:

[CCIP]

Yep, Helgoland is indeed awesome...and a ghost island, too!

Seriously! I was passing near the island, but well outside any visual range, a few patrols back. I figured I'd zoom over in free camera mode to admire the scenery once again. When I got there it spooked me to see buildings and gun fortifications floating in mid-air but with the proper elevations like the hills were still under them! Ships floating at non-existent docks, too! The island had disappeared into THE UNKNOWN! :huh:

<cue dramatic, spooky music>

Stay away from the Bavarian Triangle!! :eek:

:lol:

Hey, I don't know if that's any scarier than the fact you were able to mysteriously float from your boat and hover over the ocean at will :doh:

[Graf Paper]

ROFL:rotfl:

You do have a point there!

[Jimbuna]

Take your boat a little closer next time, you were probably beyond rendering range http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Avatar]

Hey,
I spotted the destroyers that dropped the mines west of Heligoland. They were two VW class destroyers. When I did the ships camera to have a look at them, instead of depth charges they were loaded with menacing-looking mines. Too bad I was out of position and they were travelling at 30 knots.
About a day later, I got the radiogram informing me of the mine field.
Awesome! way to go GWX!:up:

[Jimbuna]

But did you see them lay em ? :hmm:

[Avatar]

No joy, they were TGB(target got by). I radioed them in hoping an air attack would be forthcoming but they were gone by then too.

[bigboywooly]

Nice to know those little things get seen
Makes scripting them worthwhile :up:
Minefields IE 1 and IE 2 IIRC

Ah yes


Early on the 10th, destroyers INTREPID and IVANHOE of the 20th Destroyer Flotilla laid small minefield IE‑1 in channels through the German minefields in the Heligoland Bight in 54‑06N, 05‑29E.



Late on the 13th, minelaying destroyers IVANHOE and INTREPID of the 20th Destroyer Flotilla laid minefield IE‑2 in the German channels of the West Wall minefield in the Heligoland Bight in 54‑06N, 05‑29E


http://www.naval-history.net/xDKWW2-4001-10JAN01.htm

Excellent site

[Dekessey]

Nice to know those little things get seen
Makes scripting them worthwhile :up:
Minefields IE 1 and IE 2 IIRC

Ah yes


Early on the 10th, destroyers INTREPID and IVANHOE of the 20th Destroyer Flotilla laid small minefield IE‑1 in channels through the German minefields in the Heligoland Bight in 54‑06N, 05‑29E.



Late on the 13th, minelaying destroyers IVANHOE and INTREPID of the 20th Destroyer Flotilla laid minefield IE‑2 in the German channels of the West Wall minefield in the Heligoland Bight in 54‑06N, 05‑29E


http://www.naval-history.net/xDKWW2-4001-10JAN01.htm

Excellent site

Wow.
The island is a very nice touch, but including this historical event is quite remarkable. Excellent work GWX team.

[bigboywooly]

Tis one of many I added after that site was pointed out to me

British ST1 and ST2 minelaying ops off Holland
German minelaying off Thames and Humber
Plus a few more

:rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

You can thank BBW for that matey http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[i_b_spectre]

Ever since I received the radio message saying the RN had mined areas east and west of Heligoland, I've been giving it a wide berth. I'm hoping eventually I'll get a message saying the KM has swept the areas and the danger has passed.

Yes, the widows and orphans of hapless Kriegsmarine sailors thank BBW! :rock:

[U49]

Tis one of many I added after that site was pointed out to me

British ST1 and ST2 minelaying ops off Holland
German minelaying off Thames and Humber
Plus a few more

:rotfl:

You nasty GWX'ers .... :nope: you did cost the Kriegsmarine more submarines than the whole Coastal Command..... :dead: (and maybe more subs than ever build for real) Shame on you!

:rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

LOL http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Blacklight]

You nasty GWX'ers .... :nope: you did cost the Kriegsmarine more submarines than the whole Coastal Command..... :dead: (and maybe more subs than ever build for real) Shame on you!


Even more than Bernard did !?!:o