Night or Day hunter? which are you

[black1]

I was wondering what most here do when hunting. I read most subs would submerge during the day to evade airplanes and from being seen and at night surface and hunt, is this somewhat correct and i was wondering what are some of your tactics and thoughts on doing this. I think from now on I may submerge and listen for contacts and plot course to follow and when it reaches night surface to chase down, get in position and attack either on surface or if needed at depth, what are your opinions on this. Also is there enough O2 for being submerged for a whole day? Thanks guys.

[Ducimus]

Depends.

If i want to conserve fuel, ill stay submerged during the day, and use as little of my battery as possible to safe fuel from recharging them.

If aircover is heavy, ill stay submerged.


If i detect a sound contact and get a plot on him, ill surface to intercept.

If its early war before SJ radar, ill stay submerged because i can hear alot farther then i can see. Conversely, i can cover more area by running on the surface.


At night, i almost NEVER submerge.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Also is there enough O2 for being submerged for a whole day? Thanks guys.
If you keep your speed to a minimum submerged you can stay below for the whole day :yep:, both battery and 02. It really depends upon the situation, the contact(s), etc, etc,.


RDP

[black1]

Great info thanks alot guys.

[Snuffy]

Day and Night!

It really depends on what the target is and how far away it is, whether I can intercept with minimal fuel consumption.

[Rockin Robbins]

Daytime is for traveling on the surface as fast as fuel economy dictates. Upon plane radar detection I submerge for five minutes, come to radar depth and get back to the surface as quickly as possible in order to cover as much ground as possible. This is especially necessary with Ducimus' evil planes bombing you at periscope depth. If you're hanging out below periscope depth you have no choece but to come up blind into immediate danger such as likely claimed the Wahoo. The surface is not only quicker, it is safer. Maximizing the mileage covered during the day develops the maximum number of contacts. Once a good contact is developed the rest of the day is spent obtaining a good attack position for night.

Night is for dying. The plan is that the evil enemy dies, but this IS war. In the event things go badly for us, night gives us extra cover to do what we have to to survive. Lollygagging around on the surface with no power while you are doing repairs is bad during the daytime. At night, you may live to see the morrow. As the sun sets, I am in position for the night's festivities, making my first approach to the targets. If approach is not possible, I have plenty of time to try something else before daybreak. Under Trigger Maru the escorts have all the advantage. I need darkness to partially even the odds.

So there you go, right out of the playbook "Thunder Below" by Eugene Fluckey. Works well with SH4 and TM.

[Ducimus]

. This is especially necessary with Ducimus' evil planes bombing you at periscope depth. If you're hanging out below periscope depth you have no choece but to come up blind into immediate danger such as likely claimed the Wahoo.
HEH! :p

The danger planes give, is what i spent all weekend on. Since the SD radar mast is now extendable, and you can dive to 65 feet in 40 seconds, i had to up the anty a little bit.

There are more variety of planes, that carry, a nice wallop. There payload will detonate if it hits you, or at 20 meters, or 45 meters. (depending on what they drop, bomb vs air dropped DC). Considering they can see you at periscope depth from around 2,000 meters away (not always garunteed they will), you wont want to hang out at periscope depth without at least a periscope up.


While testing, i had one of those planes get a lucky bomb detonate right underneath my engine room as i was bow down in a crash dive. (i loitered on the surface to ID what planes were spawning to make sure they were spawning correctly), and BAM. good buy diesal engines. At that point i blew ballasts and sat there bobbing around like the German captain in the beginning of U-571 with no diesals. Planes finished me off a few hours later.

[LukeFF]

So there you go, right out of the playbook "Thunder Below" by Eugene Fluckey. Works well with SH4 and TM.

Hmm...going to have to give that a try.

[V.C. Sniper]

The Japs are not safe any second when I'm out prowling the Pacific. =D:arrgh!:

[Rockin Robbins]

You are having entirely too much fun with your airplanes.:up:

[Taurolas]

Regarding those evil ducimus modded airplanes ;)..... are they supposed to be able to spot and mark your location 10 miles away and drop cans / bombs on said location some 5 mins after you dived.

just one of those weird things i'm experiencing with 1.7.5.. all good i have to add :up:

1. spot em on radar... check distance... yeah i'm ok no worries... oh oh (beep) these are the evil ducimus modded versions.... hits the Klaxon!!! :rotfl:
2. orders crash dive / battle stations... (just to wake up the crew heheheh)
3. sit there and wait for the planes at about 200ft
4. watch in awe as they appear from nowhere and dop bombs / DCs within 100mtrs of where i was when i dived.

Like i said in another post... beware, i recon these guys have metalic anomoly detectors :o

[Ducimus]

They have a max visual distance of umm.... well, its not the stock 9KM. Im not going to say exactly cause i think not knowing the numbers keeps you on your toes. (personnaly i hate knowinig all the distances, takes all the mystery out of the game) But, since they are higher up in elevation, they can see whats bobbing along on the surface alot farther - thats my design philopshy on that at any rate.

[kylesplanet]

You are having entirely too much fun with your airplanes.:up:

RR, you know that everytime one of us comes on here and post about these planes kicking us around while submerged, Ducimus sits back and smiles and says "take that you soft jackasses!" :p
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Mush Martin]

Bah! dem planes is all punks.....:arrgh!:

[Rockin Robbins]

I don't care whether they see me at periscope depth or not. I'm on the surface and see them first!

Old age and treachery beats youth and enthusiasm every time:up:

[micky1up]

the question should have been dusk or dawn hunter im of course both agressive and able

[Ducimus]

RR, you know that everytime one of us comes on here and post about these planes kicking us around while submerged, Ducimus sits back and smiles and says "take that you soft jackasses!" :p
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Me? Nah, id never do that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

[bookworm_020]

More of a night hunter, but will hunt during the day if a juicy enough targert appears!:arrgh!:

[CDR Resser]

The answer is, of course, YES.
I spend as much time on the surface as possible. I can dive faster than a Zero.
Nighttime is for battery charging and running between patrol areas, and if in the area, attacking whatever is sighted.
Dawn and dusk submerged attacks are near ideal.
If forced to submerge, I search with continuous high periscope as well as sonar.
If my scope is sighted by aircraft, I duck down to 100 ft for 15 min or so then come back up.
If close inshore, I pick a spot in relatively deep water, near a promontory where nothing can get by without being sighted and hopefully, attacked.
I usually take a look about every 5-10 minutes and listen continuously.
Nowhere to run, Nowhere to hide.
"Tenacity, Dick, stay with 'em till their on the bottom."-Mush Morton

Respectfully Submitted
CDR Resser