Majority Of New PCs Ship Without Windows Vista, Gates (Unintentionally) Reveals

[SUBMAN1]

Hahahahaha!!! :rotfl:

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205210375

-S

PS. If you don't want to read the article, new PC's account for 39% Vista, and over 60% XP still.

[bookworm_020]

Is anyone realy surprised????:hmm:

[Sea Demon]

Well, I'll be buying a new machine next month. And I certainly am apprehensive about Vista. I'm hoping that I can purchase my new machine from Dell with the XP option still available. I haven't checked recently. If not, I may have to build my machine myself. Oh well, I enjoyed that last time I did it.

[Sea Demon]

Well the website still shows XP availability for some of the machines only. Not everything can be purchased with the XP option by what's showing on the website. Perhaps if you ordered, you could convince them to sell anything with XP.

[kiwi_2005]

I dont find that all suprising either. Truth is i at times find Vista annoying luckily i got a dual install of xp and V, so i can just reboot to xp when i've had it with vista.

MS biggest mistake although there is software out there such as Vlite, is they should of put out a lite version dont know if Vista home edtion is the lite version?. Vista without the eye candy just the engine and plain old interface look and preinstalled on these OEM PCs with an option to upgrade to eye candy look with a type of service pk update so if they find vista to slow they can at least uninstall the pack - but problem is they're selling new PC's with Vista on and only 512 ram or 1gig which aint enough you need 2gigs or better to run vista well.

A newbie comes along buys a brand new PC with vista goes for the cheapest which usually comes with 512ram few weeks later hes in a straight jacket:dead:

Meanwihile Bill Gates sits at home counting his millions...:|\\

[Etienne]

I've been shopping for a new gaming laptop lately (Yes, I realize it's not the best of plan. Try shipping out with a tower and monitor.), and from what I've seen, both Alienware and Dell have XP options (Which I'm going for), while HP only offers Vista, from what I've seen.

Out-of-the-box computers, from Best Buys, Futureshop and the like, seem to ship with Vista these days.

Everybody has the "XXX recommends Windows Vista" thing on the website, but... Not interested.

For anybody interested... I'm leaning toward Dell right now. Alienware doesn't seem to offer the biggest processors on laptops. The HP website pissed me off within seconds, for some reason.

[Wave Skipper]

Why I hate Gates: his company has spent most of its years creating clone programs of other people's software so that it could shove them out of the market, and then spent the next few years making that clone software into a piece of Junk. In the early 90s there was an inovative C++ program that allowed you to create complex programs with few errors and almost zero typing - sort of like a simple game editor (not something Micro Soft would want around as it would have made their own programmers meaningless). Gates came out with Visual Busted. Then he came out with Visual Busted 2 (indeed a better program). It shoved the other company into the dustbin and then saw to it that when Visual Busted 3 came out that it had lost its simple ease and power. By VB 6 it required about as much typing as an old C program.

Programming is no where near where it should have been by this time. But instead of making it so the average joe could turn out super programs, now its all made easy with India/China/human 1.2

[Skybird]

Joke of the month, no doubt.

[Etienne]

Joke of the month, no doubt.

I'd say Vista qualifies for joke of the year. Seriously, when users are downgrading en masse... Something's extremely wrong.

[SUBMAN1]

Why I hate Gates: his company has spent most of its years creating clone programs of other people's software so that it could shove them out of the market, and then spent the next few years making that clone software into a piece of Junk. In the early 90s there was an inovative C++ program that allowed you to create complex programs with few errors and almost zero typing - sort of like a simple game editor (not something Micro Soft would want around as it would have made their own programmers meaningless). Gates came out with Visual Busted. Then he came out with Visual Busted 2 (indeed a better program). It shoved the other company into the dustbin and then saw to it that when Visual Busted 3 came out that it had lost its simple ease and power. By VB 6 it required about as much typing as an old C program.

Programming is no where near where it should have been by this time. But instead of making it so the average joe could turn out super programs, now its all made easy with India/China/human 1.2Just a little clue - Bill Gates quit Microsoft. He no longer works there.

-S

[kiwi_2005]

Just a little clue - Bill Gates quit Microsoft. He no longer works there.

-S

True, but does he still get a piece of the cake:hmm:. I read not long ago after he left MS he and his wife are on a mission to help charities - he donated millions to one.

[SUBMAN1]

Just a little clue - Bill Gates quit Microsoft. He no longer works there.

-S
True, but does he still get a piece of the cake:hmm:. I read not long ago after he left MS he and his wife are on a mission to help charities - he donated millions to one.Actually, he is on a mission to give away his entire fortune. He quit MS to work full time on it. It is actually probably pretty hard to give away a Billion $$$, let alone 40 or 50 Billion.

-S

[nikimcbee]

I've been shopping for a new gaming laptop lately (Yes, I realize it's not the best of plan. Try shipping out with a tower and monitor.), and from what I've seen, both Alienware and Dell have XP options (Which I'm going for), while HP only offers Vista, from what I've seen.

Out-of-the-box computers, from Best Buys, Futureshop and the like, seem to ship with Vista these days.

Everybody has the "XXX recommends Windows Vista" thing on the website, but... Not interested.

For anybody interested... I'm leaning toward Dell right now. Alienware doesn't seem to offer the biggest processors on laptops. The HP website pissed me off within seconds, for some reason.

I solved the problem after haggling with dell( for fun) why I couldn't get xp. So I solved the problem and built my own computer sans vista:rotfl:

I had some priceless conversations with dell techs in India...

[Tchocky]

The HP website pissed me off within seconds, for some reason.
Yeah, it drove me insane when I was buying my laptop.
I think CCIP recently bought a decent HP gaming laptop

[kiwi_2005]

Just a little clue - Bill Gates quit Microsoft. He no longer works there.

-S
True, but does he still get a piece of the cake:hmm:. I read not long ago after he left MS he and his wife are on a mission to help charities - he donated millions to one.Actually, he is on a mission to give away his entire fortune. He quit MS to work full time on it. It is actually probably pretty hard to give away a Billion $$$, let alone 40 or 50 Billion.

-S

Hell, good on him for that:up:

[Ducimus]

One obervation i made from my college days ......

Microsoft controls it all. One day i looked at what was installed on my computer.

MS Windows
MS Office
MS Visual Basic
MS Visual J++ (this was before AFC, and was using AWT)
MS Visual C++
MS ..
MS.

And while i was doing all of this, i was holding an MS mouse :roll: MS has had an iron grip on what OS we run on our computer, what productivity applications we use on it, and even right down to how applications are made for said OS. From the ground up, they control it all.

[SteminDemon13]

The Question is, where would the computer world be without microsoft? If Bill Gates hadn't bothered, or closed up shop when all those lawsuits were happenening and left it to macintosh we would still be messing around with that really annoying one button mouse <shakes fist in air>. I'm sure not all people at Msoft are great, but many great minds went through that place and added to the software world immensely.

I agree that vista sucks, I use XP still. The thing I always do is say, take for instance windows 95 - 98. I waited to purchase 98 and bought 98 second edition, which was great. Then came XP. I stayed on 98 SE for a while until I upgraded our home computer. Many a people make the mistake of not having the right system set up and then complain it's so sloooow, I hate my computer, bill gates is the devil, all the banging of the keyboard gave me carpaltunel syndrome, and all that jazz.

I have been happy with windows and other products for the most part and am thankful for windows update. Wouldn't it suck if Microsoft just sold the software and didn't give a crap about spending money to upgrade your windows?

It's not all that bad, though sometimes I too would like to throw the computer out the window. It is ok to get angry though, we spend a lot of money on this stuff, so our natural feeling is that it should work flawlessly.

I see Vista as a San antonio LPD......wait, it's not that bad. I see Vista as a first year cobalt, the cars are having head problems, but GM is working through it. Should it have happened? No, they have all kinds of crazy CAD stuff that it shouldn't, but nothing is perfect, but they are working on it. Ok, done with my rambling, be back later.