Best PC game of the 20th century

[Letum]

This is just an excuse for blatant opinionism. :D

For me it is System Shock 2. , even tho I am 99.9% a simulation fan.


SS2 oozes atmosphere.

You awake from sleep in a corporate space ship with no memory of recent events. The
atmosphere is extremely cold and lonely. Apart from your former crew mates who have
become zombie like and call them selves the "many" after some kind of parasite infected them,
you do not see another human through the whole game, apart from a few instances where
you glimpse some one through a window moments before they die.

As the plot play out, you find your self a pawn in a battle between a cold, callas, super
computer and the "many"; a vast biological infection.
The story and game are totally liner, but utterly immerse. The plot plays out in the
game play and through the last words of the other crew members that are stored in
audio logs or ghostly visions.

SS2 has plenty of faults. The end was clearly rushed to meet a deadline and it is tricky,
but not impossible to run it on XP or Vista.
However, what a great game! with a few mods, the graphics don't even feel to dated
and the gameplay is as tense and balanced as it was back in 1999.

*edit* Oh, and it's as scary as hell!
I gave up playing it the first 2 (3?) times because it made me jump so oftern. :D


What are everyone elses nominations?

[Peto]

That's a really tough (and good) question. I play many different types of games but the series that probably occupied more time on my systems has been the Baldur's Gate rpg collection. Good stories and tons of choices kept it interesting.

But the Silent Hunter series has also given me a "few" enjoyable hours as well.

I may edit this later :hmm:.

[Dowly]

There's too many to name only one. But they are all adventure games in my list. Broken Sword 1 & 2 for their amazing storyline & breathtaking drawn graphics. Fahrenheit for the dark and creep story and simple things that have been succesfully made scary (view from eyes of the character, going thru old file archives in the dark cellar with heartbeat & breathing audible, amazingly scary). Then, of course there the Cthulhu thing, whatever it was called, liked it alot. I wont say IL2 here, no matter that I've played it actively from the first release, it's the best of the bunch, but could be heaps better.

[Letum]

I found Silent hunter 2 too late.

I only got to enjoy it for a year or so before silent hunter 3.

I saw it on the shelves, but I had almost no naval experiance, so I passed it off as
something I wouldn't enjoy for a long time.

A shame.

[kiwi_2005]

Silent Hunter Series especially from 3 - cause coming from SH1 and 2 then seeing the graphics of 3 just blew me away at the time and i found myself playing SH3 for 2 years solid, still play it today. Now with SH4 the graphics are just pieces of artwork!

Planescape Torment - RPG. Old but had an adult theme, you played a character that was dead. The conversation dialog between characters were the best ever.

World of Warcraft - mmorpg cause its addictive as hell, makes you worry, makes you get up hrs before sunlight to level up that bit more before the day starts, you start buying books on Wow, reading about new ways to beat the game, learn a new history and can even teach yourself a new language - (bloodelf) epics and the right gear your character needs for raids, you learn skills like engineering and you appreciate daggers much much more than you would of. :)

Deus Ex. RPG. It gave you choices that seem to effect your way of thinking in the real world - hmm should i have done that - guilt trip starts to settle in:rotfl:

System Shock 2. For freaking me out

Doom 3 :roll: I know, but all the same it scared me :rotfl:

Su-27 Flanker - crappy graphics now but the first realistic flightsim to come out. Beats the stock Falcon 4 by miles.

[Letum]

ohh yes, Deus Ex was very good! I played that through more than once!

Got a bit boring once you got the abiity to become invisible tho.

[Stealth Hunter]

Assassin's Creed (beautifully redone cities of Acre, Jerusalem, and Damascus)

BioShock (wonderful storyline and graphics; voice acting was also done extremely well)

Il2 1946 (changed combat flight simulation as we know it)

Silent Hunter III (opened up a new age of graphics [it's actually generally credited with it])

Ghost Recon (revolutionized AI as we know it)

Battlefield 1942 (showed us a world of fraggers and kick-ass mods)

Rome: Total War (introduced more sophisticated graphics and changed the way we look at RTS gameplay)

Medal of Honor series (the daddy of FPS games [DOOM is the grandaddy, lol])

Red Baron 3D (showed us World War I)

Half-Life 2 (shook the world with graphics never seen before on the new source engine)

The Sims 2 (the improved game of life... with improved 3D mode...)

Elder Scrolls series (brought forth the age of roleplaying)

Kane & Lynch: Dead Men (just added it because of the totally awesome script, acting, and storyline; great game that's more like a movie than anything else)

[baggygreen]

Erm...

MS flight sim 4.0. loved it!!!!! wow, how bad it seems now tho compared to FSX

most the games you guys are mentioning are 21st century games, not 20th! we're looking for 10 yrs or older!!:lol:

And i'll throw in Captain Comic and duke nukem, too :D

[Stealth Hunter]

Erm...

MS flight sim 4.0. loved it!!!!! wow, how bad it seems now tho compared to FSX

Wait 10 years and see what everybody says about SH3... and SubSim!:rotfl:

[Letum]

Assassin's Creed (beautifully redone cities of Acre, Jerusalem, and Damascus)

BioShock (wonderful storyline and graphics; voice acting was also done extremely well)

Il2 1946 (changed combat flight simulation as we know it)

Silent Hunter III (opened up a new age of graphics [it's actually generally credited with it])

Ghost Recon (revolutionized AI as we know it)

Battlefield 1942 (showed us a world of fraggers and kick-ass mods)

Rome: Total War (introduced more sophisticated graphics and changed the way we look at RTS gameplay)

Medal of Honor series (the daddy of FPS games [DOOM is the grandaddy, lol])

Red Baron 3D (showed us World War I)

Half-Life 2 (shook the world with graphics never seen before on the new source engine)

The Sims 2 (the improved game of life... with improved 3D mode...)

Elder Scrolls series (brought forth the age of roleplaying)

Kane & Lynch: Dead Men (just added it because of the totally awesome script, acting, and storyline; great game that's more like a movie than anything else)


:doh: Almost none of those are from the 20th centuray!

[Mikey_Wolf]

Best PC game of the 20th Century?

Day of the Tentacle.:up:

[Deamon]

This question is easy to answere for me: OPERATION FLASHPOINT <--- best game of all times :yep::yep::yep:

Hey did you said of 20th century ?

[kiwi_2005]

most the games you guys are mentioning are 21st century games, not 20th! we're looking for 10 yrs or older!!:lol:

:D
:damn:

Ok if one game i had to choose before 2000, it would have to be 'Fast Attack and Aces of the Deep' ...

Wait a minute thats two... Oh stuff it! :rotfl:

At the end of 2008 when the thread comes up 'Whats your worst and best moment of Subsim'. My worst moment would be this one. It popped out of nowhere and is a twister of all twisters. There is no such thing as best game! Its Best gameS <---

I cant pick just one! :rotfl:

[Mikey_Wolf]

Hang on, I revise my original suggestion - the best PC game of the 20th Century = Solitaire.

[antikristuseke]

I'm quite surprised noone has mentioned Fallout or Fallout 2 yet. Thats the one that takes the cake ffrom me, but it is really close with some of theo ther greats allready mentined here.

[Letum]

Never even heard of "fall out" :o

[kiwi_2005]

Fallout hell yeah why didn't i remeber them. They are masterpieces. 1 & 2 they were turnbase games set in the future after a nuclear war.

Fallout 3 is in the making It should look great with todays hardware.

[Skybird]

The glorious past:

Flight Simulator 2. - A glimpse at things to come.
Dungeon Master - first 3D dungeon environment.
Sim City, Railroad Tycoon - first of their kind.
Grand Prix by Geoff Crammond. Father of all racings sims setting sail for realism.
Hack ( alias rogue) - no hack-'n-slay action without this.
The Fairy Tale Adventure - the first offering a real huge world in which you could move freely around. Oblivion today is nothing but an offspring from Dungeon Master meeting Fairy Tale Adventure.
Falcon - founding a legendary inheritance.
Carrier Command.


The shining present:

The wide range of Flight simulators available, each of them offering advantages over the others. FS9, FSX. X-Plane. Falcon. Flanker. IL-2. Condor.

So many interesting car driving games and simulations. The latter culminated in titles like Richard Burns Rally, GTR-2, Nascar 2003, rFactor.

and so much more to list and to say: SH3. Flashpoint. Blade Runner. Total War. Best game of the 20th century? It is an ongoing story, though moving at a slower pace. the 2oth century criterion is no solid borderline, but a fluent continuum - we all pratcically play games today having their roots and ideas in the 80s and 90s. The basic ideas all have been touched, it seems, these days it is all about graphics and presentation. Maybe that is why I am not interested in new releases anymore: the magic has gone, and when something makes me drop my mouth in bewilderment like Oblivion did, I almost feel thankful.

Myself, I started computer games on amiga in 1986 (not counting the Commodore for which I had no bought games, though). And I miss the beeping sound of the arcade halls of the early 80s until the early 90s. :D i loved to watch - but almost never played myself, all my (few) coins went into the slots for the billiard tables.

[Seth8530]

Tie fighter nuff said

[antikristuseke]

Fallout hell yeah why didn't i remeber them. They are masterpieces. 1 & 2 they were turnbase games set in the future after a nuclear war.

Fallout 3 is in the making It should look great with todays hardware.

I have my doubts about Fallout 3, but im definately looking forward to it.

[3Jane]

PacMan, it wins hands down.

[porphy]

Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear from 1999. I was a slave to RS online gaming for at least 2 years. :yep: Fast, mercyless and highly addictive...

[NiclDoe]

Oh God i would have to say super Mario 64 becuase that was the first game i played when i was 4 years old and collected all 120 stars.

[Janus]

Judging by the time a game has been on my hard disk it is Operation Flashpoint which is on my disk for almost 7 years (uninterrupted) and I've been using it freqently for these 7 years. It is the most open game to modding I know of apart from Half Life maybe.

Then there is Combat Mission, Falcon 4 (although I never really got into playing it) because of its dynamic campaign.

Edit: I just remembered that Operation Flashpoint was released in 2001 so it does not count as a 20th century game, but well whatever...

[stabiz]

Full Throttle!

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[Sailor Steve]

Pac-Man
Donkey Kong
Asteroids

Oh, wait, he said PC games, not arcade (yes I played all those back in the arcade heyday, as well as Space Invaders and of course Pong).

Tomb Raider
Grand Prix
Silent Service
Flight Simulator
Red Baron
Aces Of The Deep
Silent Hunter

And my personal, unknown favorites:
WizBall
Oids

[kranz]

Close Combat series.Russian Front(3)and Inv.Normandy(5) rox.Of course with mods.

PS: Q U A K E 2 as well

[Dowly]

Full Throttle!

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Classic! :up:

[jumpy]

As far as 'older' pc games go, I think my favourites date from when I first got into computers. Possibly somewhere around the mid '90's or shortly thereafter.

Total Annihilation.
Medal of Honor Allied Assault. (& later, Allied Assault Spearhead addon)
Halflife.
Warcraft 1 and 2.

[baggygreen]

how could i leave out Red Alert?!?!?

"For King and Country"

I loved spies.

[Jimbuna]

Empire
Harpoon
Elite

[Zachstar]

Quake!

Quake helped jumpstart the game modification movement that changed the face of gaming as we approached 2000. Leading to the peak of the modding hayday with Half Life.


It's just sad that the game modification movement has slowed to a crawl. It really is WEIRD when GWX which is a mod for a SIMULATION beats out many MANY mods for Half Life 2 in terms of getting content out.

[d@rk51d3]

Deus Ex 1 and FFVII both done my head in.:up:

And I quite liked the thief series. Sneaking around in the shadows, pinching loot, flinging arrows around.:yep:

[TarJak]

Pong!
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Without it none of the other games that followed would have been possible.

[Blacklight]

I'm going to have to say for a game with the most innovation and longevity, this would have to be the original Half Life. People are still playing the hell out of it and modded versions of it, like Counter Strike, today and it's almost 10 years old !! It was also the first game that had an AI that made you feel like you were fighting live opponents, especially when you encountered the soldiers ! They would work together against you, try to outflank you... I had times where one guy would try to flush me out of a hiding place while the rest of his squad waited in ambush..

Valve did a wonderful thing with that game. I'm hopeing that SH III will have as much longevity.

We can probably also add Pac Man to this list.

[Jimbuna]

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[TteFAboB]

I can't believe the post above me exists. Please, kill me.

When was X-com made? If it fits, I vote for it.

[Seeadler]

1. Seven Cities of Gold
2. M.U.L.E.
3. Rings of Medusa I+II
4. Fort Apocalypse

[lesrae]

Carrier Command and F16 Combat Pilot on my ST, Civilization (the original) and X-Wing on my first 486 PC.

Overall it would have to be X-Wing, which I still dig out for the occasional blast.

[Wave Skipper]

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[Rotary Crewman]

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Secret of Monkey Island

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Skool Daze (http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/rjordan/klass/index.htm << Modern Version)

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Birds Of Prey (Old amiga Classic where you could fly about 40 different aircraft)

More to come...

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Here's my list of candidates:

European Air War - I know, its terrible by IL2 standards, but its still DAMN fun
B-17: The Mighty Eighth - Silent Hunter..in a bomber!
Sam and Max: Hit the Road - "Max? The smartass kid doesnt think we're scary. What d'you think about that?"
Broken Sword 1 & 2 - These games are so well made, back from a time where developers had freedom
Hitman: Silent Assassin - Taking out a mark from a mile away when other people would run in guns blazing. Made you feel professional.
Freelancer - Like Grand Theft Auto in space! :rotfl:
MoH: Allied Assault - Lets face it, we all play it for the Omaha level :p

[Tchocky]

Red Baron & Red Baron 2
Half-Life

Tetris

there are probably more, but early-90's gaming has fried my young mind. Ah well

[nikimcbee]

I liked the original Dark forces.:up:

Red Baron 3D
Silent Service
Silent Hunter
Panzer General
Civil War Generals 2
Sid Meyer's Gettysburg:up:

[Rotary Crewman]

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KOTS :)

[Wave Skipper]

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