Nvidia tweaks to SH3/SH4 [Archive] - Page 2

Tony845

05-02-09, 06:33 PM

Has anyone been able to get the Nvidia gForce 6200 card to work with SH4? So far I have uninstalled/reinstalled drivers, updated drivers, disabled the Intro video and searched the help forums at Nvidia. No joy. Right now the game loads and i get to the office at base just fine. I click on the map and get a mission assignment. After the mission loads and I select 'Start' it gets to the Command Room then the game crashes and locks the system and I have to force a reboot. I am trying to upgrade from a gForce 5500 which ran ok if sluggish on some views.

I am running SH4 with U-Boat add-on and no other mods.

Thanks
Tony

Rockin Robbins

05-02-09, 07:27 PM

Tony I think you are just short of being able to run the game there. I would go for the best deal on an x600 card you can get. I have a 7600GT and run the graphics settings wide open at about 20 fps. You can check out my in-game movies and tell I'm not doing too shabby.

Tony845

05-02-09, 09:31 PM

Found some 7600 gt AGP cards on Ebay. Think one of those will work?

CPU- AMD Athlon 1.7 gig operating at 2.1 gig (quite stable)
RAM- 3 gig
MB- Asus A7v8X-X (does not support PCI-E)

BTW, reinstalled the geForce 5500 and back to playing the game would just like the graphics to be better. :)

Tony

irish1958

05-03-09, 09:16 AM

Anyone having any problems with missing dll files for the nvidia task tray with the latest 182.50 drivers?

Keith.
No,
When I installed the 182.50m Beta, I increased my frame rate by at least 25%, and in some applications, 100%
I have a "desktop" replacement with a mobile video card, however.

Jail

05-05-09, 09:27 AM

:oops::oops: someone enlighten me wich keys to show framerate SH3. Im curious about my old 7900gtx card. Has made a profile for sh3 in video settings.

Arclight

05-05-09, 10:32 AM

Ehr, think it was ctrl+F7, not sure though. :hmmm:

kvbrock82

05-09-09, 06:15 AM

hey guys,

i finally ordered sh4 after being an avid sh3 fan since release. I have a dell xps1540 with 4gb ram, a duo core 8100 and nvidia 8600m gt card on vista sp1... do you think i will run sh4 decently? For me its all about the playability rather than the graphics, though some eye candy never hurts!

cheers :salute:

Arclight

05-09-09, 09:12 AM

Should definitely be enough to run the game, but the 8600M being a mobile graphics chip, you most likely will have to sacrifice a bit of visual splendor. No biggie, it's about the gameplay anyway, right? ;)

kvbrock82

05-09-09, 10:18 AM

sure is :O:

will have to suffice until i can afford a gaming rig i suppose!

Stormende

06-19-09, 04:16 PM

:oops::oops: someone enlighten me wich keys to show framerate SH3. Im curious about my old 7900gtx card. Has made a profile for sh3 in video settings.

The combo keys is CNTRL + F8 but the displayed # is quite small and crappy. Try FRAPS (http://www.fraps.com/setup.exe), the FPS reading is bigger and more stable to display.

Hitman

07-02-09, 07:06 AM

Du hast mit Sicherheit eine Nvidia-GraKa, den genau da gab es diesen UZO-Bug, welcher aber mit aktuellen Patchstand nicht mehr auftreten sollte. Sofern du die Kampagne spielst, kann es schon gut sein, dass du in dem befohlenen Planquadrat kaum/keine Kontakte hast, dampfe nie mit voller Kraft rum, dann haste nach den 24h im Zielgebiet noch genug im Tank, um zu einer der Routen gemäß beiliegender Karte zu schippern.

Ich hatte meine Kampagne damals mit dem kl. Boot (gleich 1939) angefangen und bin auch einige Male leer ausgegangen, aber du bekommst ja auch ein paar Punkte für da Erreichen des Zielgebietes, die dortige Patroullie und das Erreichen des Heimathafens. Also ganz cool bleiben und in Ruhe Erfahrung für die Besatzung sammeln und auf nen gescheites Boot hinarbeiten :)

Bitte auf englisch schreiben, denn sonst verstehen nicht alle was du sagst. Danke :salute:

TRANSLATION: Please write in english as otherwise not everyone will understand what you say. Thanks :salute:

karamazovnew

07-25-09, 10:16 PM

Bitte auf englisch schreiben, denn sonst verstehen nicht alle was du sagst. Danke :salute:

TRANSLATION: Please write in english as otherwise not everyone will understand what you say. Thanks :salute:

See what you've done? You've scared him.... :o

Arclight

07-26-09, 02:59 PM

Scare a bot?! How do you do that? :D

Pretty sure it was a bot, anyway. :hmmm:

msalama

09-07-09, 03:01 AM

A small but IMO important piece of info for anyone using the GeForce 7800 GS: use old drivers or you can't get the AA to "stick" in the game regardless of what you do! I found this out after reinstalling SH4 / RFB after a wee break, having meanwhile gotten me the most recent set of drivers from NVidia of course :nope:

I'm using v84.21 with nHancer now, and it all works magnifico again :up:

trojanfoe

09-11-09, 06:49 AM

Hi all, I am having problem with the SH4 + U-boat missions in that it sometimes stutters then returns to the desktop for 30 secs and then returns to the game. The error message in the Windows Event Log indicates a driver error (not at the system right now, so cannot quote directly).

When I first installed SH4 I was getting this consistently within the Museum, particularly when I zoomed-in and strafed around the largest British warship. I followed the OPs suggestion and used the program he described to set-up the global nvidia settings and it went away. I have now started a mission and I am getting it periodically, so I guess this did not solve it completely.

My system: Windows 7 x64 (RC1 - build 7100), Dual Core E8400 (3Ghz), nVidia 9800 GTX, 6GB PC6400 RAM. No overclocking anywhere. Latest nVidia drivers from Windows Update (190.xx - .20 I think, maybe .02)

Does anyone else have this problem?

Cheers,
Andy

trojanfoe

09-12-09, 02:44 PM

TopcatWA

09-12-09, 07:13 PM

This may be already posted elsewhere, but I haven't been able to find it as yet.
Has anyone who has an SLI setup on their PC played the game in SLI enabled mode?
If so what settings do you use & do you get good frame rate performance?
I have been playing the game (both SH3 & SH4) for quite awhile with my SLI setup disabled & using the nHanser setup, but now would like to try the SLI enabled setup to see what improvement I can get.
I am running the latest nVidia 8000 series drivers v.190.62 dated 21Aug09.
I have tried using the SLI Performance Mode 'force alternate frame rendering 2' setting which does increase the frame rate considerably (60-80fps) but using this setting displays the SLI performance band strip on the left hand side of the game screen which is annoying & when using the nVidia Global setting reduces the frame rate performance by half.
If there was a way of getting rid of the SLI band on the screen when using the forced setting it would be good.

Cheers

Captain Dave

09-13-09, 09:14 AM

Here's my settings. I'm running 2 EVGA 7600 GT cards in SLI, on a ASUS A8N-SLI Premium mobo. A Opteron 185 dual core processor. 2 gig of memory. It's an old but good system. I run SH4 full tilt with no problems. A 22 inch wide screen set at 1680 x 1050. I haven't seen the SLI thing on the left side of the screen.

Anisotropic Filtering = Application controlled
Antialiasing - Gamma Correction = On
Antialiasing = SLI8x
Antialiasing - Transparency = Multisampling
Conformant Texture Clamp = use hardware
Error reporting = Off
Extension Limit = Off
Force Mipmaps = bilinear
Multi-Display/mixed-GPU acceleration = single display performance mode
Sli Performance mode = Force alternate frame rendering 2
Stereo display mode = Use verticle interlace monitor.
Texture filtering - Anisotropic mip filter optimization = Off
Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample optimization = On
Texture filtering - Negative LOD bias = Clamp
Texture filtering = Quality
Texture Filtering - Trilinear Optimization = On
Threaded optimization = On
Triple Buffering = Off
Vertical Sync = Use the 3D application setting

TopcatWA

09-13-09, 07:27 PM

Hi Captain Dave,

I have tried your settings but still get the SLI band on left of screen.

If anyone knows how to get rid of it, it would be appreciated.

Cheers

TopcatWA

09-13-09, 07:41 PM

After a bit of fiddling around I eventually found how to get rid of it.
Very simple -at the top of the nVidia Control Panel screen you see
a toolbar with

'3D Settings' tab next to 'File, Edit and View', from the top left CP Window.
Simply uncheck 'Show SLI Visial Indicators'.

I often wonder why the most simplest of tasks are sometimes the most diffiicult to do

Cheers:up:

Captain Dave

09-14-09, 08:06 PM

I probably turned that OFF years ago and forgot all about it.:hmmm: Don't get old, man.:zzz:

Webster

09-14-09, 10:34 PM

its off topic but im upgrading my system and thinking about the video card (i have 1 8800gt 512mb) so can someone tell me why anyone "needs" more than one video card? nobody has every given me a good answer except to say "you just do" which to me only means its because everyone else does it.

skip the bench marks and impressing the boys bit but really, i've seen single card rigs work great and i dont see any benefit to running 2 or even 3 cards when one good medium to high end card is cheaper?

i've never had a single card not do everything i could ask of it so whats the point having more cards other than lightening your wallet? what am i missing here?

Arclight

09-15-09, 07:28 AM

It's for the ultra-high crowd; Multi-GPU setups scale better at high resolutions. If you want to run everything at the max possible resolution, with all bells and whistles + Super Sampling AA & 16xAF... well, at least for the dual/triple high-end card setups; there are more sensible applications:

If you have a motherboard that provides the needed 32 PCI-E lanes, SLI/Crossfire doesn't have to be expensive. Just get 2 9800GTs, and your performance will come close to or equal a GTX275/285, for less money.

The main drawback is the entry price; powerfull PSU for 2 cards and MB capable of full SLI/Crossfire (those 32 lanes). Your electric bill will suffer too.

I agree though that 2x GTX 295 (or even 2x GTX285) is just silly, and very costly. Just a matter of preference. ;)

Webster

09-17-09, 12:23 PM

ok, so running 2 medium level cards brings you the performance of a high end card at less price but more power is used so your accessaries (psu, mobo, and case cooling) must all be beefed up.

now i understand it better, and yes thats what i was thinking about. when i see them get 2 or 3 of those high end cards. to me it was pointless for anyone to spend that much $ unless you get some great reward from it. i guess if your running a 36" or higher monitor then maybe it could make a difference but not something i think is good for the smaller desktop monitors.

i could build 2 or maybe 3 high end computers with med-high end single video cards for what i see them spending on those multi high end video card rigs.

sorry about getting off topic :oops: i just figured you guys were the ones to ask

TopcatWA

09-27-09, 06:40 AM

I have another question on SLI setups.
Is anyone out there using the latest nHanser 2.5.1 (64-Bit) & getting good graphics & frame rate when playing SHIV?
I have tried this with SLI enabled & cannot set it up with recommended
settings from posts on this topic & cannot find in this version anything suitable.
I've got the latest nVidia & framework drivers (64-Bit) but keep on getting
compatabilty errors in the Windows/Systems32/NvApps.xml files -
error in document (838, 47).
When I do a search for this document, nothing comes up in relevant.xml file.
Game runs ok using the nVidia Control panel settings with SLI enabled using Capt. Dave's settings without running nHanser but with it running on similar settings doesn't improve things especially the frame rate.

Cheers

Arclight

09-27-09, 09:36 AM

:-?

It was working fine (nHancer 2.5.1 64b on Win7), but now it doesn't start, giving the error you described. Seems like some Windows-update screwed compatibility, could try rolling back. :doh:

seaB

10-04-09, 09:54 PM

SH4 main menu video settings set at highest level did not make a great picture for the game; mainly there was jagged edges.

I just tried nHancer yesterday.
I first thought I don't want to choose "Global" because that will affect all my other various PC game video settings.
I just want to set it for SH4.
I'll went straight to making a nHancer SH4 Profile.
I could not get it to work and thought this nHancer advise is rubbish.

I then tried using the Nvidia Control Panel > 3D Settings > "Manage 3D Settings"
or
"Use the advanced 3d image settings" > "take me there" >"Global Settings" > tweaked it = SH4 has NO Jaggies anymore.

I thought if that works so must nHancer.
I reset Nvidia 3D settings to 'Let the 3D application decide".
I opened nHancer.
I used the Global settings as described by #1 post and it worked perfectly = SH4 no more ugly jaggies.
The graphics are now very exciting! :DL

I think it is very important in this discussion to include what size you pc monitor + resolution, video card etc, is
so no doubt can be put on poster's worked or not worked replies = mainly eliminating jaggies.
I think I only read 2 posts in this long 12 page #282 post thread that mentioned monitor size / resolution.
I was beginning to think that it could only work for smaller sized monitors therefore lower resolutions.
I read somewhere that SH4's native resolution / what this game was optimized for is something like 1080 x 768.
It has to get enlarged / scaled-up to play on larger monitors which causes the jagged edges.

My monitor is 22inch - native resolution is 1680 x 1050.
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz.
2 GBs RAM
Video Card - Asus EN 9500 GT OC - 500MB RAM.

This nHancer works on my system.
A bit of a nuisance though having to install the .Net Framework 3.5 beforehand that nHancer needs to work.
I think modern Nvidia driver with tweaked Global settings works just as good too with my PC specs.

Arclight

10-04-09, 10:32 PM

Did you assign the game's .exe to the profile you made in nHnancer? Should work fine. Just set the global profile to "best quality", should disable some speed optimizations enabled by default. :hmmm:

Nvidia's CP also has profiles btw, you don't have to set global to get it to work.

Imho resolution is irrelevant these days since everyone decided to limit themselfs to only 1 by getting LCD's. :nope:

seaB

10-05-09, 06:34 AM

Did you assign the game's .exe to the profile you made in nHnancer? Should work fine. Just set the global profile to "best quality", should disable some speed optimizations enabled by default. :hmmm:

I thought I was doing it right.
I may try again with the SH4 Profile later if my other games are slowed down by the new nHancer Global settings.

Imho resolution is irrelevant these days since everyone decided to limit themselfs to only 1 by getting LCD's. :nope:

Irrelevant - No! - Different sized LCD screens have different native/best resolutions.
What I was looking for in this discussion was some SH4 gamers saying that they have at least a 22inch PC monitor with native resolution of 1680 x 1050
and were able to eliminate jaggies with nHancer or their Nvidia 3D settings = evidence by example.
That info would have made me stick at finding the answer instead of trying it once, failing and giving up and
maybe thinking this info is out of date or not relevant to large screens or current Nvidia drivers, etc.

BTW here is 1 screenshot example of my nHancer result. Look at those nice clean fine wires and the realistic rendering and weathering of the sub! :DL

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh66/AQvQA/SH4/SH4_nHancer_GATO_22inch_1680x1050.jpg

Arclight

10-05-09, 08:05 PM

I'm very familiar with the nice clean rendering. ;)
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/SH4Img2008-11-05_025342_750.jpg

Resolution has no bearing on whether nHancer works or not. nHancer just sets some values in the registry, just like Nvidia CP. Multi-Sampling, as far as I know, doesn't care about resolution either. :hmmm:

Arclight

10-07-09, 09:32 AM

Don't know if it's still relevant, but nHancer 2.5.1 crashes with ForceWare 185.xx and later. Update to latest and you're good to go. :up:

Paulowanclift

10-16-09, 01:01 PM

Glad I found this thread, I've often wondered why my screenies with everything on high do not look as good as some other peoples. I've only done a quick test so far but I think its looking a lot better.

java`s revenge

11-08-09, 03:40 PM

LOL
Thanks for the reply.
The problem is that some guys didn´t know about the max 4x AA for nvidia to avoid sun halo problems (again: at least on Sh3). BTW, i noticed that in your pic above you are missing some good image quality...yours wires lines are broken..this could be "fix" by using transparency SSAA for example. So this is just a crusade for the more perfect image that IMHO is one of the best things that these expensive cards have to offer for us, gamers.:up:

The specs of my pc are,
Geforce 260 gtx
driver 178.24 (best driver that works)
Intel i7 processor.
Vista 64bit.

Tried Nhancer but i can`t install it by the driver version.

I also get these broken lines. What i try i can`t solve this matter.

Do someone have an idea?

Arclight

11-08-09, 10:24 PM

Either force anti-aliasing through Nvidia CP or nHancer, shouldn't really matter (does the same thing).

:hmmm:

Considering it's an older driver, nHancer should work fine with it. Maybe try older build.

178.24 best that works? Surely there's something more up-to-date? Give the 182.xx releases a try if you haven't already.

java`s revenge

11-09-09, 07:51 AM

Okay,
I have updated the nvidia driver to version 195.39 installed the last
version of nhancer and followed the steps on this forum.

Here is the screenshot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/hornetsting/sh3-1.jpg

Or is it normal these broken lines?

Arclight

11-09-09, 11:07 AM

(sorry about my "handwriting" :88))
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/nHancerexample.jpg
1) Select the profile for the game.
2) Check that the executable is correct.
3) Make sure AA is checked.
4) Select AA technique (not sure SSAA works, stick with MSAA).
5) Select AA mode; 2x, 4x, 8x, etc. 4x should be sufficient in most games, but for SH 4x is max, as per Rubini's instructions, to avoid graphical glitches (yes, the picture shows this incorrectly).
6) Make sure "enhance in-game AA setting" is NOT checked; SH does not have AA, so there's nothing to enhance. That's why whe're forcing it through driver.
7) Gamma correction normally doesn't hurt, but for SH turn it OFF, as per Rubini's instructions, to avoid graphical glitches (yes, the picture shows this incorrectly).
8) Select a transparancy AA mode if you want. Super-sampling looks better but is more costly on performance.

*) If it doesn't work automatically, tick "profile can be activated manually". You can then force the profile by going to "tools > activate profile > [desired profile]". Keep in mind though that the profile is then forced on everything, not just SH (I think :hmmm:).

java`s revenge

11-09-09, 11:37 AM

Thanks Arclight,

These settings are the best. But i see a problem in the nav tutorial.
I see moving glitches at the horizon and the beaches moves.

But in the periscope tutorials it couldn`t be better.

Arclight

11-09-09, 04:34 PM

Yeah, I think the "shimmering", or whatever it is, is "normal". The engine wasn't build with Anti-Aliasing, so it has to be forced/applied by the driver. This is a rather brute method; usually more costly with less quality as compared to actual in-game AA. The shimmering is probably a side-effect of this, or it may have been there from the start, not really sure. :hmmm:

The side-effects of enabling more than 4xMSAA and gamma correction is the thinning of smoke and the disappearance of the sun's halo respectively (IIRC, correct me if I'm wrong). If you never look at the sun and don't mind a bit flimsy smoke, then by all means, set it up as you want. ;)

* that setting for Anisotropic Filtering is also highly recommended; it makes textures sharper, particularly at distance (has to do with the angle at which you look at a surface: the shallower the angle, the blurier the texture). 8XAF should be manageable for a midrange card and gives good results. Going from 8x to 16x has very little benefit while still costing some performance (on the better cards it's hardly noticeable, if at all though).

java`s revenge

11-09-09, 05:20 PM

Thanks Arclight for the explanation.

Btw your soup becomes very old. It`s white now, you
have to cook fresh for your crew....:timeout:

Arclight

11-09-09, 05:28 PM

You are welcome. :salute:

Haven't heard any complaints about the soup yet... though more men have been falling ill lately. :hmmm:

clayp

12-03-09, 11:59 PM

Howdy guys...Does anyone have a Nvidia GTX 295 card using Rubini's settings and Nhancer?

berobispo

01-07-10, 11:53 AM

Hi!

could someone explain the following behaviour:

recently installed SH4 on an old PIV 2,8ghz, 2 GB RAM (mixed bars), 7600gs 256 AGP, 250GB HD, WIN XP SP2, latest NVidia driver (6.14.11.9562). Some missions turn out to have ok fps throughout, though they drop to about 15 when torpedos impact, but other missions have terrible fps (7-8), e.g. the torpedo tutorial. This drop in fps seems to occur without any particular reason and the fps stay that low. fps this low in any 3d view (not in the map view). Only high resolution textures is checked, everything else is unchecked or at low.

I have SH3 GWX 3 and the OLC mkIId Übermod installed as well, which runs like a charm.

Also tried NHancer and disabled AA, AF, doesn't help.

Could it be that my DC supply is causing the trouble? It only supplies 200w. I know this is terribly low, but AFAIK the 7600gs only needs 34w (silent edition).

What would be the best NHancer settings for good fps?

thanks!

Arclight

01-07-10, 03:38 PM

It's the card, mate. It's not powerfull enough. ;)

The game slows down quite a bit near land. If there are many ships and scenery (harbor, for example) it gets pretty bad.

On a 8800GTS I get choppy performance in harbors with max settings, 4xAA, 16xAF, 1280x960.

berobispo

01-08-10, 01:38 PM

thx arclight! But I still don't understand:

-When I pause the game, alt-tab out of SH4 and spend some clicks in firefox or whatever, fps are good again when alt-tab into the game again. Even when there's lot to be displayed, like enemy shipping, torpedo impact etc. Then they drop again some time later.

Currently I run the 7600gs with 425/425 Hz (original 400/400) and AA/AF/vSync off via Nhancer. Temperature is 116°C, system stable. Do you think installing an older driver might change anything?

berobispo

01-08-10, 01:49 PM

another thing: the map view gives me good fps, when I pause in the map view, fps stay this (fraps shpwing and mouse moving), but when I pause during a 3d stutter, fps stay this low even while only the menu is shown. This doesn't make sense to me:hmmm:

berobispo

01-08-10, 04:39 PM

sorrys for all this trolling, but I think I've found the reason:yeah:.
Using Rivatuner's monitoring device I found my fps go down the moment the temperature of the graphic card's core reach 125°C (didn't check long enough on my previous post). This leads to the core's temperature declining. When temperature is lower (about 108°C) fps go up again. btw, I have done nothing with this card except software overclocking. Even when I lower the gpu and memory speed to 200/200, the temperature still rises, although much slower. Will try to run with my side off.

Arclight

01-08-10, 10:36 PM

Wait, what?! 125C? Either the sensor is wrong or you have some serious temp issues imho. :o

And a P4 and mixed 2GB RAM isn't ideal either, though I still think the GPU is the main thing holding you back in this case. :hmmm:

berobispo

01-09-10, 07:17 PM

arclight, you are probably right about the temperature. I have applied new conductand paste and will try to install a small fan (now it's only passive cooling). But the gpu is actually doing a pretty job. fps 25-50 with high resolution textures and some effects activated. But my demand is not to have the best perfomance but to play SH4 on a rig that I have built from old parts (student). Haven't installed any supermod yet, will see how this goes.

java`s revenge

01-13-10, 09:39 AM

Hi,
I come back with an old problem. Tried a long time the settings of
the first post. But i always got a black screen with sh3 when i started it.
I altere the aa setting to application and that worked. But then i got
a jaggied horizon.

Now i have tried aa supersampling 4x4 and that gives the solution
for me for a correct horizion. But now i have a golfball sun. (flat)

When i use shift page/up the sun glows but the jaggied horizon comes back.

My specs
Geforce 260gtx
driver 195.62

Arclight

01-13-10, 10:41 AM

Few thoughts:

-4x multisampling is the max that will work without side-effects
-Be sure to disable "gamma correction" in nHancer/Nvidia CP.

Make sure the profile is active if you make these changes in a game-specific profile! :yep:

java`s revenge

01-13-10, 10:47 AM

My opion is that sh3 and sh4 has been thrown on one pile.

This sticky had to be seperatly made for sh3 / sh4.

No, that doesn`t work, get the black screen again.

Arclight

01-13-10, 12:21 PM

Same engine, same tricks to make it work. No problem putting them on the same pile in this case imho. :D

Didn't we have this conversation before? I posted an image with explanation (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1201188&postcount=291) and as far as I can tell it worked for you. :06:

java`s revenge

01-13-10, 01:56 PM

You are right Arctic,

Got also black screens in the past with these settings. Now it works.
Horizon is good but the sun is flat.

But i can live with it.

Thanks mate :salute:

Arclight

01-13-10, 02:05 PM

Ah, wait, I think I had that as well. Works at first, but then the halo disappears. Fixed it by toggling the settings for the driver, and then it would work untill I rebooted or something. :hmmm:

It's a bit of hit and miss really. Problem is the game just doesn't support AA natively.

java`s revenge

01-13-10, 03:12 PM

When you toggle in the game with shift/page up you have a fine sun
but then the jaggies are coming back..

berobispo

01-14-10, 07:12 PM

btw, I have bought and installed a cheap little fan, and my 7600gs is now running at smooth 90°C:DL ...coming from the mac side of the world actually and have still some things to learn with pc's

Arclight

01-15-10, 01:54 AM

When you toggle in the game with shift/page up you have a fine sun
but then the jaggies are coming back..
Never touched the in-game filter thingy, just setting up the profile properly should do the trick. :hmmm:
btw, I have bought and installed a cheap little fan, and my 7600gs is now running at smooth 90°C:DL ...coming from the mac side of the world actually and have still some things to learn with pc'sThat's more acceptable. :yep:

I never let my card go above 80-85C, but it has a big dual-slot cooler. Definitely makes it more manageable. :)

java`s revenge

01-15-10, 05:24 AM

btw, I have bought and installed a cheap little fan, and my 7600gs is now running at smooth 90°C:DL ...coming from the mac side of the world actually and have still some things to learn with pc's

My gpu is much cooler during gaming.
I do use rivatuner, here is a tutorial to set it up,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXr6IIj1sLY

berobispo

01-15-10, 12:06 PM

My gpu is much cooler during gaming.
I do use rivatuner, here is a tutorial to set it up,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXr6IIj1sLY

Thanks! But I already use Riva Tuner. First used it to actually downclock my passive cooled gs7600, now have it slightly overclocked.

That's not my dog

01-18-10, 01:44 PM

I am having blocky oil spills in the and blocky fire on board ships. There was a thread that solved this issue, but the file to fix it is not gone. I am using Nhancer and I running the following MODS:

4 Ships_Reflect and Caustic_Environment Mod 5.1
AOBF 16-9 Res
Captain's Desk Photos 26
EAX_Sound_Sim
EAXsoundsim_with_WebstersManeuver_RFB2
MaxOptics 3 for SH4_1.5_051509
Merchant Skin Pack
RFB_2.0
SH4 Flag Replacement
Webster's Missing Voices for v1.4 & v1.5
RSRDC_RFB_V575
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1

I am getting ready to undue some of the MODS to see if I can locate which one changed things. If anyone has a better idea, please let me know.
Thanks in advance.

Arclight

01-18-10, 02:02 PM

Got a link to that thread? Maybe we can recreate that fix. :hmmm:

Barman1943

01-18-10, 03:00 PM

I just tried these settings, and when I started up Sh4 all I got was a black screen. I could hear the menu music, but nothing was showing up.

Arclight

01-18-10, 03:43 PM

Welcome aboard. :salute:

Sounds familiar, but I can't remember the fix. :hmmm:

Few questions:
What card are you using?
What version of the game are you running?
What driver version are you running?
Are you using Nhancer?

Tweety

01-18-10, 04:39 PM

Welcome aboard Barman1943,

Have you tried running SH4 without using nHanser.

Tweety

Barman1943

01-18-10, 05:15 PM

Thanks for the welcome.

Well, it appears to have fixed itself. I just tried it again and nothing was wrong, thanks for the help though.

That's not my dog

01-18-10, 08:43 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141899&highlight=blocky

Thanks for welcome, Arclight. Here is one link to what I am experiencing. I do indeed have 22" Viewsonic. I so not know what they are referencing for a PE3 file. Anyone?

What card are you using? Zotac 9800GT x2
What version of the game are you running? 1.5
What driver version are you running? 195.62
Are you using Nhancer? Yes am I am running the suggestions found in the SH3/SH4 Nvidia tweak thread.

Found this too. File link does not work anymore.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=700377&postcount=1753

Arclight

01-19-10, 09:41 AM

PE3 stands for Pacific Environments 3.

4 Ships_Reflect and Caustic_Environment Mod 5.1

You listed that at the top of your mod list. Iirc it's part of PE or another environment mod. I think the problem is you didn't enable the "base" mod. :hmmm:

Could either try disabling it, or enabling the #1 part of the mod first.

That's not my dog

01-19-10, 01:13 PM

I am at work so I cannot try this. I will download it tommorow and give it a go. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1233508&highlight=fire#post1233508

Arclight

01-19-10, 01:43 PM

Probably your best bet, never had the issue myself. :yep:

That's not my dog

01-25-10, 01:54 PM

Arclight

01-25-10, 03:31 PM

Step by step, process of elimination. :yep:

If you need any help, you know where to look. ;)

Ships-R-Us

01-31-10, 05:54 PM

Nvidia has released new updated drivers on the 19th. I just discovered this.

Gunfighter

02-03-10, 02:17 PM

Hi Anyone About To Install SP3 for WinXP anyone had any Problems after installation, and is there anything I should First. ? SP3 is recommended for SH5 or can I run it with just SP2

Arclight

02-03-10, 02:30 PM

Ehm... think I had it installed before moving to Win7 beta. Didn't experience any issues, but I'm sure there are more knowledable people around to answer this. :)

Elder-Pirate

02-03-10, 06:58 PM

Hi Anyone About To Install SP3 for WinXP anyone had any Problems after installation, and is there anything I should First. ? SP3 is recommended for SH5 or can I run it with just SP2

Am running WinXP and have been running SP3 since Bill and his gang put it on D/L. Seems like a long time ago, but anyway I've never noticed any problems.:06:

Win 7 on the very near agenda though. :yeah:

If they say SH5 is recommended to be run with SP3 then I guess that's what they mean, eh.

SP3 or no SP3 after UBI's extremely stupid idea of OSP, I will not be finding out whether or not SH5 needs it or not. :arrgh!:

But good luck to you Gunfighter. :up:

Gunfighter

02-04-10, 09:50 AM

Am running WinXP and have been running SP3 since Bill and his gang put it on D/L. Seems like a long time ago, but anyway I've never noticed any problems.:06:

Win 7 on the very near agenda though. :yeah:

If they say SH5 is recommended to be run with SP3 then I guess that's what they mean, eh.

SP3 or no SP3 after UBI's extremely stupid idea of OSP, I will not be finding out whether or not SH5 needs it or not. :arrgh!:

But good luck to you Gunfighter. :up:

Thank You EP for the HeadsUp on SP3. Long time since we Spoke are We OK again now:up: nice to hear from you.

Elder-Pirate

02-04-10, 11:07 AM

Thank You EP for the HeadsUp on SP3. Long time since we Spoke are We OK again now:up: nice to hear from you.

Of course we are OK, :D I'm just a stubborn ole coot. :arrgh!:

Ships-R-Us

02-06-10, 12:20 AM

Hi Anyone About To Install SP3 for WinXP anyone had any Problems after installation, and is there anything I should First. ? SP3 is recommended for SH5 or can I run it with just SP2

I'm using XP Home with SP3 since it came out and have no problems whatsoever in any aspect of my computing. If you are skeptical just clone your C drive and park it some where, as I put it on a hidden partition on another drive. Play with SP3 and should you not care for it, VOILA you can be back where you were in 10 minutes or less.

Armistead

02-06-10, 12:55 AM

Nvidia has released new updated drivers on the 19th. I just discovered this.

I hated them...how'd they work for you...Went back to the old ones.

Armistead

02-06-10, 01:01 AM

Hey Arclight, I finally had the chance to try the file to get the blocky fire and oil to go away, it did not work. I went into port and exited the program, and installed the mod. Restarted the game, went to gunnery school and the blocks were still there. I then exited Sh4, took all mods off, started SH4, and went to gunnery school and shot some holes in a freighter. Bingo, great fire and smoke!
So, now I am going to install the mods one by one and see which one is causing the problem. The saga continues.......:rock:

Yea, you got some serious mod soup. Don't know how much of that is the problem with video, but if you run them in the order listed, some unwated conflicts. You're also running some that aren't for RFB and you only need the one ver of EAX for RFB. As stated, run your supermod first and go from there. I haven't run the caustic effects, but seems like it caused problems when ran with merchant skins, causing some really weird night time glow on the water.

Ships-R-Us

02-06-10, 01:28 AM

I hated them...how'd they work for you...Went back to the old ones.

I know nothing about this Nhancer stuff so I just work in stock mode. I see no difference between this driver and the previous as evidenced by their own write up on it. I am only using again with my new "legal" install SH1.5 w/TMO 1.9 and the patch w/ RSRD and the patch w/ EAX sound Mod on HIGH settings w/ single core CPU 2.80ghz Pentium4 hyperthread and 3gb ram with no problems at all and no mouse stickys or time lags.

IN HEAVY ACTION MY FRAME RATE DROPS BUT I'M SO BUSY STAYING ALIVE I NOTICE NOTHING, AS I'M NOT WATCHING AN HD MOVIE, JUST DRIVING A SUBMARINE.

Of course my game his the only thing on a dedicated hard drive and that means a lot as others here discovered. I am a neat freak w/my HD's, and keep bogus processes to a minimum. There are so many things you can do to improve your performance. I even defrag the game drive and C drive every week and keep my registry spotless. Malwarebytes and a few others can turn your gaming time into a new honeymoon with normal routine maintenance.

HOWEVER, THROW IN PACIFIC ENVIRONMENTS, IN MY CASE I HAVE TO BACK OF "af" SETTINGS A BIT

Gunfighter

02-06-10, 11:37 AM

http://www.filefront.com/15325399/repair_blocky_fire.7z
try this link, It fixed same problem for me

rmr1701

02-15-10, 01:29 PM

Well, you all may not be able to help with settings on the older gear I have, but it doesn't hurt to check.
Biggest problem at the moment is slow, jerky cursor and slow mouse click response times, jerky smoke and screen movement.

Compaq Presario SR1917CL
XP Pro Media Center SP3
AMD64 2200Mhz
1.5 Gb Ram
nVidia GeForce 6150LE built in-256mb

I'm not a computer tech, I know enough to be dangerous and this is our home PC, so if it doesn't work right, I have to deal with the wife. I don't know enough to want to go poking around too much in system files. I have installed the latest drivers I can find, but I'm not sure if it helped or not. Buying a new graphics card is just not an option right now.

Arclight

02-15-10, 09:10 PM

It's your graphicscard, you're just experiencing low framerates.

No amount of tweaking is going to fix it, time for an upgrade. ;)

Ships-R-Us

02-15-10, 10:50 PM

As a last resort back off the Anisotropic Filter (AF) settings and try that, then if need be back off the other settings to see if you get some relief and better game play until another card comes your way.......

Ships-R-Us

03-04-10, 09:34 PM

Arclight

03-05-10, 07:44 AM

Has a few more options, particularly for troubleshooting.

Much better explanation of what the options do.

Just a more complete controlpanel, though the average user probably has no use for it. :hmmm:

Akula

03-20-10, 08:33 PM

I am having a terrible to to get AA to work with SH4

I have the nVidia 197.13 drivers, together with nHancer and it still looks like a woodsaw with jagged egdes everywhere.

I had it working a while back by disabling Gamma Correction, but now that doesn't even work.

I also tried the nHancer settings shared here and also nothing....

Any futher ideas will be very much appreciated.

I have a 8800Ultra

Thanks,
G

Armistead

03-23-10, 11:01 AM

I'm lost. Even though I let my son have my gaming machine, I played on this rig for over a year fine and the last few months great until the new nvidia drivers. I think they blew my card or damaged it, but how do I know. After I loaded the new drivers, wasn't long my screen went black. It kept doing it. Then they pull the driver for OH cards.. Loaded the 21's and the same. Finally I cleared registry of all nvidia crap and started over and it worked, just low frames. However, it passes 3 seperate video stability test with high marks.

When I get to the office, the mouse lags bad. If I go to one of the other rooms per say, torps, men, ect..mouse works fine, just office. The overall game seems slower, FPS in sub around 20-25 at the cam 30ish

Having gotten so mad and tried everything, I did a complete format of my system, reinstalled window, everything up to date.. Figured that would do it , load the game and mouse still slow...rolled back to a earlier driver...nada.

Did two seperate video stability test again and was in the high end of norm. Cleaned everything, but good as I clean once a month, ram test fine, ect.

Was using the nhancer settings listed here before and worked great, all settings maxed.

Yea, system a little weak, but it ran the game before maxed out in high resolutions.

No clue now.

AMD 64x2 6000
4 mgs ram
nvidia 9600gt
audigy LS

Arclight

03-23-10, 11:38 AM

Maybe try forcing options in Nv control panel instead of Nhancer. You should be able to set it up if you can do it in Nhancer.

Also check the game's profile, make sure it's not overriding your global settings. :hmmm:

Armistead

03-23-10, 03:41 PM

After all this maddness....

I had the updated sounddriver when I reinstalled win. For whatever reason I decided to uninstall and reinstall it. I had it on a disc, but this time used the DL on the net, same driver, just had copied it to disc before for the win install..Here's what's strange..after I unistalled sounddriver and rebooted to reinstall, my screen booted back into 800x600 and the video card had a yellow mark on devices..Why would removing a sound driver disable your video card driver? However, I reinstalled the sound driver, rebooted and video driver showed fine and now no lag...everything works..

Hell, don't ask me, but glad it works now.

KL-alfman

03-26-10, 07:01 PM

thx Rubini for your tweak-guide.

I downloaded nhancer and followed your guide-lines in the first post thoroughly. though it didn't fix my problem with the sun-halo, but I got more fps in every map or exterior view.
even my old 6600GT is now capable of around 50fps when on bridge in stormy wheather, around 85 in 2d-maps and 35fps in control-room.
the textures seem now bit lighter and sharper and the edges are better rounded.

thx again for sharing your knowledge! :salute:

JoeCorrado

06-18-10, 03:40 PM

I have a GeForce 9800GTX+ running the new driver. I never tried the Nhancer program for fear it would overclock and damage the card...

If anyone wants to tell of the advantages of Nhancer over the Nvidia control panel I will be greatful.

Running the new drivers w/ GeForce 9600GT on 64bit Windows 7 - Using Nhancer with settings recommended in this thread as well.

No problems, no conflicts. Nhancer does not "overclock" your video card. All Nhancer does is to make the already available settings for your card assessable in one easy place AND it will apply the optimized setting for the game only when the game is loaded. Be sure to create a new profile named SH4 and set Nhancer to load that profile when the SH4 executable is started.

green_abobo

06-18-10, 10:03 PM

will the nhancer work with an 8400 gs card? i know it's not the best card to use,but for the particular pc i play SH4 on,it's my only option.

i do have 2 gigs of RAM, which helps. currently, i play the game on medium settings,i get about 30 FPS (on a good day) using external cams.

wondering if it will allow me to run the game on high settings and still get around the same FPS basically. i tried downloading and using it once,couldn't really figure out how to use it.

thanks.

Arclight

06-19-10, 12:46 AM

Doesn't help performance really, is just alternate to the Nvidia control panel with more options and better profile system.

Might help you in troubleshotting or offer some easier usage than Nvidia CP, but it's not a performance enhancer. ;)

Grayghost59

09-18-10, 12:06 PM

I am running nividia Geoforce 9400 Gt and have great graphics but the game crashes once and awhile; any one have a suggestion for me to get the most out of the game? I'm on a Gateway 6400 2.13Ghz and 2030MB ram. Thanks for any help you may give.

Arclight

09-18-10, 01:43 PM

Might check the page-file; make sure it's big enough (3GB or more should be good for you) and make sure it's not fragmented. Basically that means making sure you have a fair bit of free space on the HD/partition it's on and that it's defragged regularly.

* and of course the standard "make sure all drivers are up to date".

Hassie

11-19-10, 01:52 PM

I have been playing this game for awhile, but recently got a new computer, which has Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. It has an i7 960@3.19GHZ 4 Core CPU, NVidia 480 GTX, SoundBlaster XI-FI XTreme Audio, 6 GB og 1800MHz RAM. Running DirectX 11, since my video card is a 480, but for some reason I am having HUGE problems with SH4 AND SH5, but NOT SH3.

Ok so SH4, the one I really care about, is a steam version, so it is in the program files x86/steam folder, and there is very little I can do about that, but that was never a problem before with my other computer.
So this is what it does, I try to run the game, steam does it's thing, and computer thinks for a second and than nothing. No black screen, just nothing. I look in Task Manager, under processes, and there right at the top is SH4, taking 350-680mb of memory running, but the only thing I can do is end the process.

I have tried many different settings, and read thru many hours of tech support on here and a few other sites, and thought I would just ask for help from hopefully, someone that has had this problem or can maybe help either way.

As for SH5, the game runs thru it's Ubisoft Launcher, I push start, and the movie starts up, but smaller than the screen, and like it's not really there. I can't click it, as I will just click whatever is behind the movie like the desktop. It is also in my processes, but not in the applications in my Task Manager, altho using far less memory for the opening movie. After the movie runs it's due course, the game stops and nothing, which almost seems like the same problem, save this one shows me the movie before failing, and SH4 just never actually comes up.

Any help would be appreciated. I am having fun with SH3, but I bought SH4 U-Boat Missions and never started it, and only did the American side, and would really love to get back into that, as it was my favorite.

Thank you in advance for any help you can offer, and if you need any more details, please let me know.

Hassie

Arclight

11-19-10, 02:28 PM

Either move it out of program files or disable UAC for starters. Neither should be a problem.

You can try the compatibility modes too; right-click the .exe for the game and select 'disable desktop composition'. Additionally you can try 'run as administrator' to get around the 'program files'/UAC problem, and maybe set compatibility mode for OS you know the game is compatible with (I'd just try XP SP3). 'Disable visual themes' is worth a shot as well.

Hassie

11-20-10, 07:25 AM

Arclight-

Thank you for the response. I have done several of the things you suggested and the game does absolutely nothing different. I run it as administrator from the folder, not from the steam game library page.

Unfortunately Steam links their games to a web address on your desktop icons, and if you take it out of the steam folder, and put it just in the C:\ folder, it has problems and is missing files or something. I will try using compatibility modes I havent tried, disabling visual themes, and hell even taking off...and OMG, SH5 just worked by disabling my abnormal DPI size. Wow

I appreciate the help Arc, I didnt even think to check any of the boxes below the compatibility setting, or the administrator box. Doing this on SH4 however does change what happens now...

The steam box asking if I want to play the, and showing the cd-key for the game comes up, i push play, it thinks about it for a half of a nanosecond, than pops up again. If I take off visual themes, or the DPI it does this, taking of both does the same, and leaving the boxes unchecked obviously the problem is the same as when I first reported and you responded.

I am going to try and manually switch my DPI to the normal size and see if that helps. If you have any other recommendations, or have heard of any similar problems and solutions, I would be in your debt for the help. I really wanna play SH4, and getting SH5 to work is almost a slap in the face, because of how bugged it is :)

Hassie

Arclight

11-20-10, 07:45 AM

Fair enough. :haha:

:hmmm:

If you install Steam in another directory, you'll get around the permission issues. Think you can copy (not move, copy) the whole thing to a new location, games and all, and uninstall Steam before reinstalling in the location you prepared (copied to). If you let Steam check the integrety of games after that, it will notice that the files are already there and pretty much complete instantly (might have to acquire few small files).

A thing to test is disable UAC and see if that fixes SH4. If it does and you insist on keeping that godforsaken thing on, do the above to move everything over.

Also, try disabling the Steam in-game overlay. It breaks every DX11 game I have, and recently X3 Terran Conflict started to refuse to run with it enabled as well. It wasn't exactly stable when it did run with the overlay enabled anyway.

jepo1501

11-22-10, 11:48 AM

Hi, Advice please............ i have a new monitor packard bell Maestro 242Dx.
I have never had any probs with SH4 but now i have this new monitor running when i try and start the game it will go as far as the first screen (to the end of the progress bar) and then the screen goes blank a message is diplayed 'no signal being received' and then the monitor switches off, so then i have close the computer down and restart.
I have tried everything i can think off and now i am getting very, very, frustrated....or is it angry!!!!!.................any help would be greatly appreciated.

Herr-Berbunch

11-22-10, 11:58 AM

Arclight

11-22-10, 01:11 PM

Prolly because the game is still set to a resolution the new monitor can't display. :hmm2:

And don't think you have to restart your computer, just hit ctrl+alt+del.

Erm, have to go by memory, but I think there's a folder for the game in your "Documents" folder. In there there's a main.cfg, which contains a few settings such as resolution. Try setting the proper resolution there manually.

Maybe delete the file; a lot of games generate it automatically when it's not present. Make a backup though, in case it throws an error.

jepo1501

11-23-10, 10:49 AM

Ok will give it a go...will get back to you, thanks guys for your prompt replies

jepo1501

12-12-10, 03:46 PM

Ok will give it a go...will get back to you, thanks guys for your prompt replies
Well it was the graphics card. I bought a new one and fitted it in and hey presto we are back in the game. Thx for all your aadvice.

frajer

10-13-11, 03:45 AM

Nice tweak :) Tx:yeah:

11-09-11, 07:34 PM

Nhancer does not work with Nvidia drivers past 257 version (which is old in itself) - could some one kindly share how to tweak AA for SH3 for modern cards/drivers?

Gerald

11-09-11, 10:25 PM

@ frajer! Welcome to SubSim :sunny:

Arclight

11-10-11, 04:52 AM

Nhancer does not work with Nvidia drivers past 257 version (which is old in itself) - could some one kindly share how to tweak AA for SH3 for modern cards/drivers?
There's a new tool on th block: nvidia Inspector (http://downloads.guru3d.com/NVIDIA-Inspector-1.94-download-2612.html).

Gets the job done, though it isn't as intuitive. ;)

11-10-11, 03:56 PM

Yep, thanks, I've tried it yesterday and it is working with the big problem being that whenever the AA is on the game looses the sun glare, and if you have the sun glare you loose the AA.
:damn:

Arclight

11-10-11, 04:03 PM

Aye it's a bit troublesome. Turn of gamma correction and no more than 4x MSAA, and hope for the best. It worked for me for a while, think I lost the halo at some point though. :hmmm:

11-11-11, 08:50 AM

Aye it's a bit troublesome. Turn of gamma correction and no more than 4x MSAA, and hope for the best. It worked for me for a while, think I lost the halo at some point though. :hmmm:

Ok I'll copy the solution to this problem from another thread:

Woot! It works! BOTH sunglare AND AA!! On my Nvidia 460 with latest drivers!

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1272/shyes.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/shyes.jpg/)

Step 1: Set Nvidia Control Panel "adjust image settings with preview" option to "let 3d app decide".
Step 2: Set Nvidia Nspector (nHancer no longer works with current drivers) settings. AA compatibility to 200000000, force AA, AA x4 Multisumpling.

Step 3: enjoy SH3 with AA and proper sun graphics:)

Thanks ryanwigginton, couldn't have done it without you!

Arclight

11-11-11, 10:33 AM

Which is exactly what is described in the first post. :roll:

Apart from turning off gamma-correction, if it is on.

Galanti

01-17-12, 11:14 AM

There's a new tool on th block: nvidia Inspector (http://downloads.guru3d.com/NVIDIA-Inspector-1.94-download-2612.html).

Gets the job done, though it isn't as intuitive. ;)

I think I've cracked the Holy Grail: near flawless, full-scene AA in Silent Hunter 4! Use NVIDIA Inspector to set transparency AA to "4X Sparse-Grid Supersampling", set your LOD bias to -100 or thereabouts, and you will get the best AA experience I've ever seen in the SH series.

I've been using Sparse-Grid SSAA lately in every game I can because it corrects the three areas of aliasing that plague all modern games: polygon aliasing, transparency aliasing, and finally shader aliasing.

The downside is that it's brutal on the hardware, but in an older game like SH4 I see no hit on my GTX 560.

Arclight

01-17-12, 11:36 AM

Galanti

01-17-12, 01:14 PM

It's very fancy, but yes, very costly. Haven't tried sparse grid yet, but the old "straight-up" supersampling is just too costly to be practical for real-time rendering (not in a current game, at any rate).

Give it a shot, it's less of a hit than supersampling's brute force methodology. Like I said, no hit on my 560ti, I'm running everything maxed at a solid 60fps at 1920x1080 with 4x SGSSAA enabled. It's simply the shiznit, no flaws that I can see.

Arclight

01-17-12, 01:25 PM

Weird that it does full scene though, it's really a transparency AA thing. :hmmm:

Galanti

01-17-12, 01:57 PM

Weird that it does full scene though, it's really a transparency AA thing. :hmmm:

From what I understand, there was bug introduced with Nvidia drivers some time ago that actually became a feature, and was therefore never rectified. What happens is that the driver engine now always fails the alpha channel check for every surface, and therefore treats everything in the scene as though it requires transparency antialiasing. So whatever method you designate in the transparency antialiasing dropdown is applied to the entire scene.:rock:. I may have some details/terminology wrong, but that is the gist of it. Hopefully, it never gets fixed, and I doubt it will. The image quality maniacs love it too much.

Seriously, give it a whirl. I have SGSSAA running on most of my games, and I'll never go back to anything else. It blows the doors off FXAA, MSAA and SSAA.

It's especially effective in Unreal engine games, where there is an arseload of evident shader aliasing that no other method will address. That jaggy text you see on bulkheads on the Normandy in Mass Effect, for example, is completely smoothed out by SGSSAA.

AGOSTINO

02-02-12, 03:56 PM

I think I've cracked the Holy Grail: near flawless, full-scene AA in Silent Hunter 4! Use NVIDIA Inspector to set transparency AA to "4X Sparse-Grid Supersampling", set your LOD bias to -100 or thereabouts, and you will get the best AA experience I've ever seen in the SH series.

I've been using Sparse-Grid SSAA lately in every game I can because it corrects the three areas of aliasing that plague all modern games: polygon aliasing, transparency aliasing, and finally shader aliasing.

The downside is that it's brutal on the hardware, but in an older game like SH4 I see no hit on my GTX 560.

Could you kindly post, your settings, about NVIDIA Inspector for SH4?? :doh:

Thanks a lot in advance!!!! :yeah:

Zakalwe

02-09-12, 02:09 PM

Seconded.

Unfortunatly my SSD die a few months ago, and it seems I`m not getting out of SH4 what I had before. Especially these artifacts moving on the horizon when the boat rolls are annoying. GTX570 here btw.

TIA

Karsten

Nicolas

02-29-12, 12:40 PM

Hello, i need help if someone knows, i have a problem with the sun glare, it worked ok until today i lost it and i cant find it again :doh:, maybe delete a specific file, reset something i don't know. Even with all the settings exactly as known to work still i can't use aa without losing the sun glare. So i turned aa off :damn:.

--Edit
I found the solution thanks to the post of 89.

Ok I'll copy the solution to this problem from another thread:
Woot! It works! BOTH sunglare AND AA!! On my Nvidia 460 with latest drivers!

Step 1: Set Nvidia Control Panel "adjust image settings with preview" option to ["let 3d app decide"].

If i choose "Use the advanced 3D image settings." i don't get sun glare...
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But the post is because other thing i discovered when trying to fix it.

What you think of this:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/AO2.jpg

Normal (OFF):

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/Normal2.jpg

Ambient occlusion High Quality:
See the shadows details near the bridge compass

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/HighQ.jpg

Normal (OFF):

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/Normal.jpg

Ambient occlusion High Quality:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/HighQ3.jpg

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denny927

03-10-12, 09:27 PM

Hello, i need help if someone knows, i have a problem with the sun glare, it worked ok until today i lost it and i cant find it again :doh:, maybe delete a specific file, reset something i don't know. Even with all the settings exactly as known to work still i can't use aa without losing the sun glare. So i turned aa off :damn:.

--Edit
I found the solution thanks to the post of 89.

If i choose "Use the advanced 3D image settings." i don't get sun glare...
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But the post is because other thing i discovered when trying to fix it.

What you think of this:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/AO2.jpg

Normal (OFF):

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/Normal2.jpg

Ambient occlusion High Quality:
See the shadows details near the bridge compass

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/HighQ.jpg

Normal (OFF):

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/Normal.jpg

Ambient occlusion High Quality:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh84/Nicolas1979/HighQ3.jpg

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yes, it works on my gtx460:rock:...you are the man, sh4 is even more impressive...again, respect!

Nicolas

03-14-12, 04:41 PM

:) i not tested all the compatibily modes yet. Call of duty 4 looks good but uses lot of your GPU, with a good card is not a problem i think, other compatibility modes introduce visual glitches, i don't know which one provides the best effects with the minimal performance impact.

SailorMark

04-12-12, 08:56 PM

Well I updated from 295.73 to 296.10 and it did not go well. I am running a GF GT220 card (Vista 32bit). Everything got very dark and the weather would not change from a constant heavy rain. So I thought I would try Control N after 3 weeks of seeing rain. It got worse from there. The rain went away, but the black eeiry veil never lifted and you had to touch a ship to see it. So I tried nVidia inspector and the settings Nicolas posted. Helped a lot but still not right. Went about removing mods one at a time. Finally got to RE #1 (I am using GFO 1.1 and RE #1 plus Nav base make over only). When I removed RE #1 it was much better visually. Downloaded a clean version of RE #1 and works good now.

My questions are:
1. Is this the right setting for a GF 220 card?
2. Can control N really mess up RE #1 or did I do something else and just got lucky with the fix?
3. How come no other programs on the computer seemed to be affected? I have run videos and they were okay, not playing any other games.

Thanks for the help!
I read this forum daily - sometimes more.

Hylander_1314

05-24-12, 02:50 PM

Anybody get a decent setup for the 301.42 drivers?

Haven't been able to get a good set up with Nvidia Inspector. I seem to lose the sunglare when ever I add in AA, even at just 2x. So even now 4x is outta the question.

If anybody has their settings handy, please post them.

Also, running 2 eVGA GTX 260s in SLI mode. If I must, I'll revert back to my old drivers that worked with Enhancer. At least it worked.

stanger

05-27-12, 04:20 PM

I did try all 300 series drivers (currently running on 302.59) and there is some problem with them and inspector: the gamma correction setting is ON by default in nv control panel, but nv inspector says its off (but its on - resulting in loss of sun glare in game); so, just set all the things for sh4 in inspector, and then go to nv cp and in sh4 profile set gamma correction to off. When you do this and go back to inspector you will see that gamma correction is off but now it will be shown in bold.

BTW, just in case someone will run into this problem: the game may refuse to run properly (black screen, the game loads, you can hear menu music) with inspector settings and vsync turn off in game; turning vsync on in game (or in config file) fixes this.

Here are my settings:
http://images40.fotosik.pl/1594/4dda9c06671de478m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=4dda9c06671de478)

8x AA would be perfect for this game if not for that sun issue; there must be something (in the code, shaders maybe) SH4 is doing not to the standards; like sun halo is also disappearing when there are clouds moving beneath\in front of it; and clouds have alpha channel and sometimes you can see the sun itself behind the clouds but not its halo. With more than 4xAA it behaves like there is something put in front of the sun constantly; maybe to understand the problem we need to understand how AA works or how nvidia drivers are doing AA... Or understand why gamma correction disables sun glare too.

Hylander_1314

05-28-12, 07:23 AM

Thanks Stanger! I did revert back to my old 197xx drivers, just to get a good image back.

I'll give your settings a try, and see how it works.

I wish Nv Inspector was a little easier to use. Maybe the developer will will create a little more user friendly version, like nHancer has.

Thanks for the info!

stanger

05-28-12, 07:44 AM

I personally am glad nhancer is gone; what was good in it was help system/tooltips that helped you understand some settings, but beside that the interface wasnt so good, and it had to run in the background (if I recall correctly); inspector is much much simpler and you may be sure you wont screw original nvidia settings (profiles). Inspector lists all the settings almost the same way as NVCP, just there are much more of them - to me it should be taken over by nvidia and incorporated into its drivers.
But every single person on this planet has different taste.

Hylander_1314

05-28-12, 08:06 AM

Actually, once you had your settings for nHancer, and you activated them, you didn't have to keep it running, or load them when you started your computer. I checked my Nvidia CP and the settings were retained on booting up.

The only thing I had to remember was to change my profiles for each game. As settings for SH4 didn't work well with BoBII Wings of Valor, or Over Flanders Fields, and so on.

After reading their pages on nHancer at the site, it made it more understandable as to what did what, and the impact on frame rates. A little clunky yes to start with, but once you got used to it, it wasn't bad.

Since I play SH4 mostly, it was easy to load up the game and go.

clayp

05-29-12, 06:55 PM

Nicolas (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=232424) How do you know what all those settings mean?:hmmm:

Hylander_1314

05-29-12, 08:09 PM

DaveB5

06-19-12, 03:44 AM

Like to say thanx to all for these tweaks and some interesting reading

Nicolas

06-19-12, 07:33 AM

Nicolas (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=232424) How do you know what all those settings mean?:hmmm:

I don't know what all of the settings mean, but I like to touch things and see what they do.
The ambient occlusion is a technic or something like that to add depth to an scene (little shadows and contrasts), the compatibility mode sets the driver to work with an specific game and the quality setting allows the use of more or less gpu.

ConteBlecio

07-11-12, 09:44 AM

Hello everyone, I'd like some advice if possible.

I run SH4 @ 1680x1050 60Hz with these mods:
- TMO 2-5
- RSRDC TMO V502 with V5xx patch
- SCAF for RSRDC V502_2.0
- SErgei's Skinpack

My configuration is:
WIN XP SP2
Core2 DUO E7200 @2.53GHz
4 GB RAM
Zotac GeForce GTX 560 1GB (with the latest drivers 301.42 WHQL)

I try this config for Nvidia Inspector with a Performance Level 2 (P0) and i never unlock min & max for the GPU,and default clock and GPU clock are @822 MHz:

Anisotropic filtering: 8x
Antialiasing - Gamma correction: On
Antialiasing - Mode: Override any application setting
Antialiasing - Setting: 16xQ
Antialiasing - Transparency: Supersampling
Conformant texture clamp: Use hardware
Error reporting: Off
Extension limit: Off
Force mipmaps: None
Multi-display/mixed_GPU acceleration: Single display performance mode
Stereo - Display mode: Use vertical interlace monitor
Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample optimization: Off (greyed out)
Texture filtering - Negative LOD bias: Clamp
Texture filtering - Quality: High quality
Texture filtering - Trilinear optimization: Off (greyed out)
Threaded optimization: Auto
Triple buffering: On
Vertical sync: Force on

Everything seems to work perfectly at the highest levels of setting,taking into account that I have limited the display of characters to a minimum and that I have not activated the post process filters,full scene glare,light shaft and env. effects.

But I have a small problem...rotating the view from left to right and vice versa I noticed very light stutters.The view is not perfectly smooth.
Can you give me explanations to eliminate this fault please?
I tried various settings but never solve it.
So I did not understand what I do...
Maybe I can not ask more from my system .. but I did not realize

Forgive the length and my bad english.
Thank you.

0rpheus

07-11-12, 10:39 AM

Reduce your texture quality option in nvidia inspector, or in game. Reduce AA & AF to half their current values.

ConteBlecio

07-11-12, 11:15 AM

Hi 0rpheus, thank you.
Seems to be going much better.
AF-4x AA-8x
Is correct? or u mean 8xQ?

Although with 16 in AA and AF appeared only turn quickly (what was happening earlier).
The values ***8203;***8203;of 16 or higher than those you suggested are appropriate only on a computer more powerful? Or SH4 does not would take advantage them anyway?

Thanks again.

0rpheus

07-11-12, 12:26 PM

Anti-aliasing removes the 'jagged lines' on a rendered image; Anisotropic Filtering is a lighting effect. Both are reasonably heavy in terms of GPU/CPU useage depending on the level you set them at; higher levels mean more performance impact.

'8xQ' and '8x' are two different types of Anti-aliasing. With the current Nvidia architecture, '8x' provides 8x AA at the performance cost of 4x AA, due to a number of improvements.

'8xQ' and '16xQ' (in fact any AA with 'Q' at the end) uses a different aliasing process - much better quality, but also a much higher performance hit. Avoid using these options unless you have a really powerful PC.

If you still get stuttering, continue to reduce the options until it stops. You may find something like 2x AA and 2x AF allow you to increase the texture setting back to full, you'll just have to see what works best for you.

*As a side note, 'Texture filtering - Quality: High quality' is the maximum texture quality setting for your GPU. If this is in your 'global settings' it will be applied to all games, all the time - you might find dropping the setting one notch to 'quality' helps not only in SH4, but in all other games as well. :up:

stanger

07-12-12, 01:47 AM

ConteBlecio, with your graphic card you should be able to run SH4 with absolutely maximum settings (in game) and all "fireworks" turned on in nvidia control panel (even with your CPU being a bottleneck to that GPU). That means 16x AF (it makes the game look sharper and helps reducing aliasing), but 4xAA (if you want to retain sun halo) and ambient occlusion set to very high in inspector. Take a look few posts above for good inspector settings (AO and AA compatibility bits being quite important).
Try to turn off triple buffering - I know from my own experience it gives a lot of stutter. I also learnt that SH4 is, for some reason, very sensitive to vsync settings, so dont touch any of it, just turn it on (or off) in game, not in inspector (pointless).
There is also new setting in inspector (with 300 series drivers) that allows you to limit your fps to a value you want, I use 73 with 75Hz desktop refresh rate - help to reduce stuttering and mouse lag a little bit.
And, as usual, keep your system clean, defragmented, watch for overheating and dont run any unnecessary programs in background when playing.

artao

07-12-12, 04:18 AM

First off, let me request please that someone update the first post in this thread to indicate CLEARLY that nHancer is NOT for cards newer than the 400 series. .. I almost went ahead and installed it, but fortunately read the installer readme .. then came back here to discover Inspector .. I've got a GTX560 Ti you see, with the 301.42 drivers. That coulda gone badly. :shifty:

Secondly, I jumped to the end here after reading that first post. Glad I did. Soon to try Inspector here. I had no idea nVidia cards had these AA .. issues .. frankly I bought the card for CUDA and GPGPU rendering in 3D software. Gaming with it is just a bonus. =D

Thirdly, I gotta point out an error just a couple posts above: Orpheus said that "Anisotropic Filtering is a lighting effect." and I'm afraid that just is not true. I believe Orpheus must be confusing anisotropic SHADING with anisotropic filtering. Filtering is used in games to remove texturing errors, like moire lines in the distance on a regular grid. :: In general it comes with virtually no FPS hit, so you should generally have it set at 16x, unless that causes problems with any specific games. ::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anisotropic_filtering
Anisotropic shading, on the other hand, is "kinda" a lighting effect, in that it relates to how light reflects off a surface. It's the effect you get on, say, a flat disk of brushed metal: instead of a point-like specular highlight, you get an line of specular highlighting along the surface. It is generally not anything gamers need to concern themselves with, at it is primarily a setting in 3D rendering applications. Games use it, sure, but it's not a "setting" the player has any control over. :: http://www.3drender.com/glossary/anisotropic.htm

that is all ... except .. is there a thread specific to SH3 for this? or is posting here fine for SH3 on nVidia? ... Not realizing the intricacies of nVidia AA, I just set my brand new card right to 32x AA and was rather shocked to see nasty jaggies on ships in the distance and crawling on bright highlights (windows, waves, etc) D'OH!!! ... I would MUCH rather have AA over the sun glare. I can live without sun glare, but I gotta be able to make out as much detail as possible on ships 20km away :03: .. trying to determine angle on bow when you can barely even make out the masts is nigh impossible.

stanger

07-12-12, 08:23 AM

nvidia is usualy good at updating their drivers with games profiles, but, except for SH3, there is no profile for SH4 and 5, so we need to create one manually. And even build in SH3 profile doesnt have AA compatibility bits, so that must be added too (with inspector). With right compatibility bits you can make AA to work in SH games (even 16xAA, thats max I can use on my GPU, so dont know about 32x). But, of course, you loose sun halo (and the smoke is thinner) with more than 4xAA and gamma correction - on. You can use 4xAA only and make up for it with FXAA (build in drivers) or SMAA (separate injector).

ConteBlecio

07-12-12, 11:06 AM

Thanks again 0rpheus! Now is more clear. :up:

@stanger: Now I go with the graphics settings to maximum.
AA=8x and AF=4x. The sun look small..it's ok? (see below)
Now run very good and I have no stutters. VSync is Force On. Triple Buffering is On.
believe it is appropriate to set them to OFF? They are the ones that cause flickering to some small parts of ships?
However also try your setting... just out of curiosity.
I'm obsessed about cleaning and defrag...:rock::)

Thank you! :up:

So I use the same settings for SH3 .... right?
Although it is less resource hungry.

The screenshot is resized

http://s13.postimage.org/yj2yqnvo7/SH4_Img_2012_07_12_00_22_44_843.png
http://postimage.org/image/mh7kwimfn/

stanger

07-12-12, 05:48 PM

Set anisotropic filtering (AF) to 16x, a antialiasing (AA) to 4x, turn on FXAA and transparency AA, turn off gamma correction, vsync (set to app controled) and triple buffering. SH4 has its own vsync setting, so turn it on instead, you can also turn on fps limiter in inspector. AA and AF (with your GPU) should be the last things to turn down, as a last resort if the stuttering wont go away. Oh, and set negative lod bias to 'clamp' for better quality.

The sun on your screenshot is a result of 8xAA. Set it to 4x and turn off gamma correction. But, of course, its your choice, if it (flat sun) doesnt bother you too much, go for 16xAA.

And remember about compatibility bits for AA, the ones from Rubinis post at first page are still the best for SH4:
20000000: EA Strategy Games.

artao

07-13-12, 01:19 AM

Ahhhhh much better. So glad to have found this thread. Now, mere pixel-wisps of smoke are discernible in-game. Flat tiny sun? yep .. oh well .. i've got it set at 4xSSAA, and 4x transparent AA.
The tip on AO was awesome!! Probably never would've tried turning that on for SH3 otherwise. Thx!! :woot:

stanger

07-13-12, 03:26 AM

Just in case: it was Nicolas who first attempted to use AO with SH4 (post #377), so its him who should be decorated :salute:

MRV

08-31-12, 08:41 AM

Hey,

is there any way of using an SMAA or similar injectors together with a widescreen mod? As far as I can see they both use a d3d9.dll file so you always have to choose between one of them?

I run SH3 with 4x AA but I think it doesnt look pretty good especially on distant ships...

stanger

09-01-12, 10:54 AM

You can always use nvidias build in FXAA, its pretty good since 300 series drivers, maybe even better than SMAA injector (it wasnt updated since last year, so its fell behind). Other possibility is "flawless widescreen" (google it), but its plugin based, and if there is no plugin for SH, then its useless until someone writes one.

Dorjun Driver

11-13-12, 08:33 AM

Perhaps one of you nVidia gurus can help me out. I’m running SH4 1.5 with a GTS 450 (overclocked to 930x2075) w/1024 MB dual monitor rig. The box is running Win7 64-bit Pro on top of an AMD II x4 975 w/8 GB. Prior to running SH4, I disable the secondary monitor via Realtime Soft’s Ultramon and use the 1920x1080 primary.

Installed mods are TMO 2.5, 3000 Yard Bearing Tool, and Bigger Better Protractors.

My problem is severe color banding. The banding is most noticeable at night with clouds, moon, and/or light fog.

Are there any tweaks available through nVidia Inspector that might alleviate the issue, or does the GTS 450 simply not have enough umph.

Thanks,
Dorj

Dorjun Driver

11-13-12, 10:11 AM

The screen shot doesn’t do the problem justice. I’ve increased the gamma a bit to highlight the issue.

She-Wolf

02-13-13, 06:45 AM

aha! so pleased to see this thread. I used nHancer in SH3 and found it a great treasure, but as artao has mentioned, it ceased to be useful for later cards, and me not really understanding about graphics settings ( though TweakGuides did help), I have not dared to 'fiddle' with graphics properties since. Now I discover Nvidia Inspector ( thank you DD!) and am keen to try some of the suggestions offered here - but is there a 'return to default setting' option if I get unexpected results do you know? I ask because I got some very weird effects when I fiddled with SH4 after it first came out, and had to re-install as I could not find a way to get rid of them.

Overall I am pretty happy with how the game looks on my machine ( 64bit, Geforce GTS 250), and the only bit that bothers me a tad, is the effect of 'birds in the rigging', where the straight lines of the rigging get broken up into blocks or dashes. It isn't a huge bother in SH4 - and compared to how Vanilla SH3 looked before any tweaks, hardly noticeable - but I DO notice and it spoils the immersion a bit. Can you please tell me which setting I need to change to address this particular issue? Thank you!

Dorjun Driver

02-13-13, 08:22 AM

Once you’ve developed a profile you like—or don’t—with Inspector, you can set things back to “normal” by simply removing the sh4.exe application from the profile. Or if you really hate what you’ve done, delete the entire profile.

I wish I were able to recommend some settings for your GPU, but I haven’t the foggiest notion what I’m doing with the damn thing. Using input from this thread and dumb luck, I've hit on a combination that works for me. So far.

GTS 450 (with some overclocking)
Driver r310_00-222

She-Wolf

02-13-13, 09:04 AM

thank you DD. I got brave and changed some of the settings as recommended on this thread - and it all looks good, so I am happy :D

Kapitän

02-18-13, 03:59 PM

Hi, 27 pages of this thread ... I wonder if someone can help me:

I currently run CCoM 9.0 with the h.sie-patch, have a Windows 7-64 bit HW and the following graphic card and monitor:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650, Version 310.90, Graka und TFT-Screen 55 cm (21,5") 16:9 Iiyama, ProLite E2273HDS-B1 2ms LED (Sp/DAH/Full-HD/5.0/bk), Resolution 1920 x 1080.

I have three issues:

1. The oval shape of round objects, such as gauges.

2. Sun Halo.

3. Some trees are shaped as black sails.

Does anyone here have similar problems and/or a solution for them?

Thanks a bunch, Kapitän

doctarr

03-02-13, 11:44 PM

Thanks to all contributing to the tweaks in this thread, got my SH4 looking good! :)

sailor_X

07-25-13, 09:56 AM

Hi everyone,

I'm not sure what settings should I set in Nvidia Inspector ? I'm using GWX with Mep 4.2 environment. Thank you

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9963/gepy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/gepy.jpg/)

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5974/3tvx.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/3tvx.jpg/)

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2503/ek54.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/ek54.jpg/)

Rubini

07-26-13, 12:55 PM

Hi Sailor _X,

Yes, nhancer no longer. I also use Sh3 nvidia control pannel and the Nvidia Inspector.

My settings on nvidia inspector is below.

Some comments and tips:

1. The settings and tips continues almost the same that we have on the first post when using nhancer
2. If you dont have sun halo please report to your nvidia control pannel and *DISABLE* the gamma correction in your global and sh3 settings (and obviously on the nvidia Inspector too). Double check here!
3. I added a 4x sparse grid ssaa and the related negative texture lod that seems to add some better visuals (just allowed using nvidia inspector I think)
4. Anyway, seems that actually using only the Nvidia control pannel (with that basic tips: max 4xMSAA and no gamma correction) is enough to have a good/best nvidia image for sh3, no more necessary to use Nvidia Inspector or anything more then.:up:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1617/f34j.jpg

c13Garrison

07-26-13, 01:26 PM

The amazing thing about this game is you could have your head glued to the map, working a plot, thinking all about intercepts and patrol ranges and torpedoes-

...and then you'll pop the hatch and just have a "...my God is that beautiful." moment.

I pulled up alongside the Submarine tender in Tulagi to lay over for a few days (long story, but I was 'penalizing' myself for using 'meta-game' information. ...I know, I'm odd like that...), and the moon rising over the coast was so stunning I spent 35 minutes of my precious hobby time just watching it in real time.

Dorjun Driver

07-26-13, 06:50 PM

Rubini

07-26-13, 10:03 PM

Rubini, what GPU are you using? Are you overclocking it?
Dorj

Hi mate,

I5 2500 gtx560 8gb ram. No overclock here.

sailor_X

07-27-13, 02:32 AM

Hi mate,

I5 2500 gtx560 8gb ram. No overclock here.

Thank you for reply Rubini. Just wondering, I'm using GF9500 GT will it not be too much for my card if I set anisotropic filtering to x16 ?

Anyway I will get a chance to to try these settings on Sunday when I'll be at home. :salute:

sailor_X

07-28-13, 01:12 PM

Thank you for reply Rubini. Just wondering, I'm using GF9500 GT will it not be too much for my card if I set anisotropic filtering to x16 ?

Anyway I will get a chance to to try these settings on Sunday when I'll be at home. :salute:

Edited: I'm having stuttering here with such settings :(

Rubini

07-28-13, 02:53 PM

Edited: I'm having stuttering here with such settings :(
Try to just use the nividia control pannel with 4x MSAA&gamma correction disabled. This must be enough - I guess that the lastest nvidia drives have now a better AA code. If you can, also enable some AF. Just for comment, I didn´t liked the native Nvidia FXAA for sh3 specifically, for some others games it´s very good.
Hopes that help!

Kapitän

07-31-13, 03:26 PM

Hi Guys, how can on get rid of the light points on the horizon when there is stormy wind and sea conditions and on the edges of ships?

4ex

08-07-13, 02:55 AM

I'm new to the forum, but learned a lot of useful information. Here, too, setting the right thing! Many thanks for your work!: До:

larsonboram

08-07-13, 04:04 PM

Hello, is it advized to use Nvidia Inspector latest version? or stick with the Nvidia control panel?

maxswain

09-28-13, 04:24 PM

Good hunting! Does anyone know a fix to the slight texture flickering in free camera around large capital ships. I know free camera but I love to watch them go down!

aso544

10-17-13, 07:52 AM

New to all this.. Did some reading but still fuzzy. Can someone guide me on typical adjustments.

I'm running......

Intel 7 2.4 ghz
8mb ddr3-1600 RAM
WIN 8
Nvidia GTX 770M w/ 3mb

Sh4
TMO 2.5
RSRDC

NO environmental mods as of yet... Any suggested?

Here is my Nvidia control panel

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/image_zps669ac9e5.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/M60-E4/media/image_zps669ac9e5.jpg.html)

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/image_zps01038134.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/M60-E4/media/image_zps01038134.jpg.html)

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/image_zpsfd356644.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/M60-E4/media/image_zpsfd356644.jpg.html)

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/image_zps976ea07c.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/M60-E4/media/image_zps976ea07c.jpg.html)

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/image_zps0ef30ab8.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/M60-E4/media/image_zps0ef30ab8.jpg.html)

Celtic_Commander

01-22-14, 01:10 PM

Thanks for all the info on setting up the graphics on SH4.:)

ConteBlecio

05-20-14, 06:20 AM

Hello guys, thanks for your advice the game (sh4)has improved a lot, but I still have a problem. You do not happen to see an occasional light "flash" on the sea? Can be caused by what?
Thanks!

TMO 2.5
TMO 25 small patch
RSRDC TMO v502
RSRDC V5xx patch1
SCAF for RSRDC v502 2.0
Traveller Mod 2.6 TMO
TM 2.6 no DC cam shake
Convoy Routes TMO+RSRDC

merc4ulfate

05-21-14, 04:09 PM

... at night it is how a passing search light get rendered .... I have only seen this flash occur when ships are present on the surface and at night. I do not recall seeing it during the day.

ConteBlecio

05-22-14, 04:54 AM

... at night it is how a passing search light get rendered .... I have only seen this flash occur when ships are present on the surface and at night. I do not recall seeing it during the day.

Hi, I present the search light, but I was not referring to that.
Unfortunately I had 3 ctd and I decided to reinstall everything without the Traveller Mod (I've read that it can cause many ctd)
Now the sequence is this:
TMO 2.5
TMO 25 small patches
RSRDC TMO V502
RSRDC V5xx patch1
Convoy Routes TMO + RSRDC

I happened only once this "flash" with this new configuration.
Thanks!

merc4ulfate

05-22-14, 05:44 PM

You do not need the TMO small patch if you are running the correct RSRD version. RSRD added what the small patch did.

ConteBlecio

05-23-14, 06:07 AM

You do not need the TMO small patch if you are running the correct RSRD version. RSRD added what the small patch did.

Ok,Thanks! :up::salute:

chascandiles

05-30-14, 09:23 AM

Vaya tela

Darojax

02-20-15, 08:08 AM

Big thanks for this, I finally managed to get the sunflare together with AA following the instructions in the first post! :up:

Metalogic

03-01-15, 03:41 PM

What Nvidia settings are good to use for SH3 with an Nvidia 970M GPU? It's pretty capable and has 3Gb VRAM, so want to make the most of it for SH3

ssjtoma

03-19-15, 11:31 PM

i'm a fan of both Radeon and Nvidia Gforce!! The first PC I built back in 05' had an ATI Radeon!! To think how far these graphic cards have come from even back then!!

Metalogic

03-20-15, 02:42 AM

i'm a fan of both Radeon and Nvidia Gforce!! The first PC I built back in 05' had an ATI Radeon!! To think how far these graphic cards have come from even back then!!

I can get insanely good fps in SH3, just wondering what the best Nvidia driver 3D settings are optimal to make the game look it's best, performance is definitely not a problem, so can probably max things out. This graphics card will run games like Skyrim (with high resolution texture pack) on ultra, no problem! :-)

Harmsway!

08-14-15, 09:20 AM

Nvidia released a new driver for Windows 10 today. 8/14/15

Magic1111

11-26-15, 05:27 AM

Hi Folks!

Yesterday I "play" for testing with different nVidia Inspector settings, and I forgot to save my SH3 profile.....:/\\!!

Now after tests I have the Sun Halo problem (Sun is a "Golf Ball"), and I don´t remember my settings before I began the tests. :oops:

Before the tests the sun was perfect!

My question is, can anybody please post the best

- SH3/SH4 Inspector and
- nVidia Control Panel

Settings, that eliminate the Sun Halo Problem?

Many thx in forward!

Best regards,
Magic

limkol

11-26-15, 06:48 AM

I am at work at the moment, so I can't check. But I remember I solved the problem by reducing the AA setting. Sounds illogical but it works.

Immelmann

06-17-16, 12:22 PM

Thank you very much for the helpful information in this thread! Following the recommended settings has SH4 looking great for me!

Niume

04-01-17, 01:58 AM

Anyone have good settings for Sh 3 but with nvidia control panel"?

Delanski

04-01-17, 03:38 AM

I would like to know too. I have the missing sun halo, so any help is appreciated.

Edit: All good. Fixed it. The Control Panel is a little different from the provided instructions on first post. This image should clear it up for anyone who's experiencing the missing sun halo.

http://i.imgur.com/39Cd4eQ.jpg

Captain Dave

04-05-17, 06:19 PM

Thanks for reminding me about the NVIDIA control panel. I moved my game files to a different folder and couldn't figure out why the sun was different. NVIDIA wasn't pointed to the new folder.

Niume

05-01-17, 02:25 PM

What nvidia setting should I turn on or turn off so I would get rid of shining white pixels at night

http://www.part.lt/img/f0f4d1a44af822d57087b5226b1ea1dc469.bmp (http://www.part.lt/perziura/f0f4d1a44af822d57087b5226b1ea1dc469.bmp)

Niume

05-02-17, 12:56 PM

does anyone have good nvidia inspector for Sh 3 with good grahpics but without flat sun

LCQ_SH

05-02-17, 04:21 PM

Hi All

It might be a real challenge to find if someone has already posted what I'm about to ask in this post, so be nice and save me couple of hours. I will appreciate it :yep:

Can anyone recomend me a nice NVIDIA control panel configuration for SH4 1.5 TMO RSRD ???

I'm having a weird effect where I see like some red shinny spots flashing randomly inside the bout and outside. More than a fix to this, I would which configuration makes the game look good.

Thanks a lot mates. :salute:

fire-fox

05-02-17, 04:42 PM

Niume

You sure there not stars? :hmmm:

propbeanie

05-02-17, 04:48 PM

His "stars" are in the water also, though smaller. Almost like there's an issue with his "water"... I'm not familiar with nVidia cards at all anymore. My last one was a 6200 - ancient AGP thingie.

LCQ_SH

05-02-17, 09:33 PM

Well, I took some screenshots when it was happening, ironically those red flashes are the only things missing on the screenshots :doh:. I may then take a low quality picture with my cellphone and post it. lol

It's not a big deal thought, but I'm still interested in knowing what are the most common good settings for NIVIDA cards :D

olddriedseaweed

05-07-17, 07:30 PM

Attached is my Nvidia Profile inspector profile.
Change the file extension from txt to nip, and you're good to go.
Keep in mind, I'm using GTX1070...........

Also, if you have dead pixels on your screen, this won't help

olddriedseaweed

05-13-17, 12:53 PM

In the release notes on 382.05 it says to turn off V-sync

billko

10-08-17, 10:20 AM

I guess it's been a while since I have posted here last. Like several years, at least.

Anyway, I have a question concerning nVidia 3D Vision and SH4 convergence. I was just playing around with SH4 in 3D just recently - and yeah, like some opinions I've already read, it's pretty eye candy, but kind of distracting in some situations, and makes the whole persicope thing look like I'm watching a ballgame through a knothole in a fence (but binocular view is breathtaking) - but I'm curious about actually experiencing this novelty with as few headaches as possible.

Now the usual questions regarding the whole convergence issue is how to get it to work in the frst place, and I'm actually past that. I can save the settings and stuff, but I have seen some peculiar behavior - namely that it seems different convergence values are needed for almost every view.

What I mean is that convergence values for your desk are different from those needed for the in-sub view, for instance. Or that perisocpe view is different from both - and that zoomed in periscope view is different from all of those. This makes for a very disruptive experience since I switch between these views all the time. It would be okay if they were fairly close, but they are all over the place.

Has anyone come across this before?

I've read about some (maybe non-related) issues where the screen ratio had something to do with some graphics artifacting. Could it be another case where SH4 isn't playing nicely with a 16:9 screen?

I'd appreciate any input or comments. Thanks!

Niume

04-04-18, 03:34 PM

could someone send me a good sh 4 .nip profile?

Kpt. Lehmann

06-21-18, 05:52 PM

Hi guys. Does anyone have a copy of Nvidia nHancer they can upload or send to me?

I'm stuck in no-anti-aliasing jaggy hell. :/\\!!

Kpt. Lehmann

06-21-18, 10:55 PM

Nevermind. Looks like nHancer is defunct / no longer available or supported.

Back to the drawing board with my Nvidia 970 GTX jaggies. :k_confused:

THEBERBSTER

06-22-18, 01:57 AM

Hi KL
Individual games can be customized from the Nvidia control panel
Manage 3D settings
Program Settings
Add
Select the game you want to customize.
Make your changes.
Apply and Save

Peter

Kpt. Lehmann

06-22-18, 08:33 PM

Hi KL
Individual games can be customized from the Nvidia control panel
Manage 3D settings
Program Settings
Add
Select the game you want to customize.
Make your changes.
Apply and Save

Peter

Unfortunately, that did not work. Thank you though, Berbster. Will try some more things when I have more time.

Fifi

06-23-18, 09:05 AM

This was the only solution to me to get pretty good AA and keeping the nice sun glare!
More than x4 multisampling automaticaly desable the sun glare.

Kpt. Lehmann

06-24-18, 11:07 PM

This was the only solution to me to get pretty good AA and keeping the nice sun glare!
More than x4 multisampling automaticaly desable the sun glare.

Thank you Fifi. I am aware of that matter.

What seems to be happening, is that I am stuck at 2x Anti Aliasing setting, no matter what I do. It appears that my GFX card is not communicating with my Silent Hunter 3 and/or Silent Hunter 4 games. (I did a proper uninstall of everything via the original DVD.... to include manually deleting any residual files to ensure a new installation was clean. I also rebooted the system before re-installation, and restored Nvidia Control panel settings to default before re-installation of SH3 / SH4.)

My other games react beautifully in relation to Nvidia Control Panel settings.

I will try to attack this problem again next week... and may write down everything I have tried so far in hope of narrowing the problem. I've always been happy with the 4xAA setting (at least in SH3) because of the flat sun matter.

Thanks again to those who have attempted to help me so far.

DontBlnkBadWolf

08-20-18, 12:13 AM

Thank you Fifi. I am aware of that matter.

What seems to be happening, is that I am stuck at 2x Anti Aliasing setting, no matter what I do. It appears that my GFX card is not communicating with my Silent Hunter 3 and/or Silent Hunter 4 games. (I did a proper uninstall of everything via the original DVD.... to include manually deleting any residual files to ensure a new installation was clean. I also rebooted the system before re-installation, and restored Nvidia Control panel settings to default before re-installation of SH3 / SH4.)

My other games react beautifully in relation to Nvidia Control Panel settings.

I will try to attack this problem again next week... and may write down everything I have tried so far in hope of narrowing the problem. I've always been happy with the 4xAA setting (at least in SH3) because of the flat sun matter.

Thanks again to those who have attempted to help me so far.

It's been close to 10 years since I have had a Silent Hunter game installed on any PC of mine, and watching an old WWII movie got me to get SH4: Gold Edition. I used to have SH 3 & 4 years ago (over 10 years), now I'm back again.

Anyway, is there an update on your findings?

Kpt. Lehmann

08-24-18, 08:02 PM

It's been close to 10 years since I have had a Silent Hunter game installed on any PC of mine, and watching an old WWII movie got me to get SH4: Gold Edition. I used to have SH 3 & 4 years ago (over 10 years), now I'm back again.

Anyway, is there an update on your findings?

Hi mwclarksr,
Unfortunately, I have no update to post yet. Regular life has kept me away from spending much time at my keyboard lately.

If/when I find the solution that works for me, I'll make sure to post it here for you and/or anyone else it might be useful to.

Sorry about the lateness of this reply.

Front Runner

12-18-18, 12:33 PM

Hi mwclarksr,
Unfortunately, I have no update to post yet. Regular life has kept me away from spending much time at my keyboard lately.

If/when I find the solution that works for me, I'll make sure to post it here for you and/or anyone else it might be useful to.

Sorry about the lateness of this reply.

Try nVidia Inspector (Formerly nVidia Profile Inspector)
Link here
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/nvidia-inspector-download.html

and.....

How to use it here
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-inspector-introduction-and-guide.403676/

Niume

12-28-18, 03:46 AM

I made the tweaks with nvidia inspector according to post 423 and these are results i am quite pleased.

http://www.part.lt/img/1c0879532a71a7b4e1d6fafa2c5c8375193.bmp (http://www.part.lt/perziura/1c0879532a71a7b4e1d6fafa2c5c8375193.bmp)

http://www.part.lt/img/e05df0437f21e63b623be0b3aeddae5d506.bmp (http://www.part.lt/perziura/e05df0437f21e63b623be0b3aeddae5d506.bmp)

http://www.part.lt/img/007097972d5913a3594de3d0477cf846950.bmp (http://www.part.lt/perziura/007097972d5913a3594de3d0477cf846950.bmp)

http://www.part.lt/img/16ad518067e5162f58df42ffc48a64c5525.bmp (http://www.part.lt/perziura/16ad518067e5162f58df42ffc48a64c5525.bmp)

propbeanie

12-28-18, 12:30 PM

:yeah: :salute:

ConteBlecio

02-09-19, 06:12 AM

Sorry guys but I'm back here ... there is a way to eliminate those visual defects when you rotate the view from right to left (and vice versa) ... like jitters ... I can not explain myself better unfortunately. And I apologize for this.

Thanks!

propbeanie

02-09-19, 10:02 AM

"Jitter" can sometimes be from the card being unable to keep up. Trying dialing back some of the settings in the game and testing. The sad thing about making graphics changes in the game is that you have to exit the game, and then re-start if for the changes to take effect, which can make for a long day of testing... Just try to have the display monitor's "Native" resolution match Windows, which will list it as the "Recommended resolution", which should match the game's resolution in the Game Settings. That eliminates any conversions between settings.

ConteBlecio

02-09-19, 11:34 AM

Hi propbeanie,
when I change graphic settings it does not let me out of the game and it sets them directly.
The resolution is the same 1920x1080 @ 60 ... same as the game.
And it is among those suggested.
I did not try to change the resolution, but for now, all the changes in the graphics settings did not produce any results.
The card is a Radeon RX460 4Gb ... and knowing that the graphics engine is not without flaws ... it seems to me absurd to require a more performing card.
The system a Win7 i3-4360 @ 3.70 ghz, 8 GB ram.
These "jitters" obviously appear in port ... but they are a constant within the sub.
From the view of the turret I rarely find the problem ... and in any case much more bland, almost imperceptible.

Thank you!

Macgregor the Hammer

01-12-20, 09:31 PM

I know many of these threads are old, but I just wanted to comment. Nhancer doesn't work for any nVidia driver newer than 257.xxx. I found a program that does the same thing called nVidia Profiler. It made a world of difference with my old Geforce 710.

Just thought I would add my 2 cents worth.

Furia

08-12-20, 09:56 AM

I have installed today SH4 and The fall of the Rising Sun and I am planning to start a new campaing.
It has been ages I have not played with SH4 and since the last time the hardware and software has changed a lot.
While I undertand that the game graphics cannot be expected to be at the level of a 2020 new sim I would like to ask our fellow Captains that are actively playing SH4 to share their Nvidia or other graphic adjustment to get the best experience with Silent Hunter 4.

In my case I have managed to get more or less nice graphics but vertical sycronization is not working properly and in external view I get a nasty view of the wires and some other lines.

If you have a nice graphics setting please share it here :subsim:

Furia

08-13-20, 07:52 AM

Ruzbasan

09-15-20, 09:13 AM

This is what I am experiencing

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=3458&stc=1&d=1597323061

I do not expect to have a 202 graphics but I have seen a lot of images and videos with better quality than the one in the pic.
Any suggestion would be most appreciated

Same problem I am having. Also, the model of the Shinano looks terrible in the game. The first half of the hull is light grey and second half is dark blue.

Moonlight

09-15-20, 09:50 AM

Ruzbasan

09-15-20, 01:01 PM

^The latest version of the FOTRS mod fixes the Shinano, as for that Graphics problem I get that as well no matter what settings I change. I have a 4079k cpu and a Nvidia 970 graphics card, there isn't any need to upgrade the card as everything else displays perfectly. :o

Hi Moonlight,

I have installed the FOTRS mod version 1.2. And the Shinano is corrupted. Is there a newer version than 1.2 of the FOTRS mod available?

Gary

Moonlight

09-15-20, 03:55 PM

You didn't say which version of the mod you have but never mind, I should have mentioned the latest patch which fixes the Shinano, mind you if Mr beanie hadn't had buggered things up this post wouldn't have been needed. :O:

Latest main mod version.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=5572

Version121Patch03, its at the bottom of the post below and by all accounts it fixes the Shinano. :up:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2695118&postcount=1810

mattlach

12-16-20, 02:20 PM

So, in 2020, are these tweaks still necessary?

I did some custom settings in Nvidia control panel (essentially setting everything to max in nvidia control panel as this old game is pretty lightweight by modern standards) Not sure if those smoke and halo issues discussed in the OP are still an issue 12 years later.

Front Runner

12-21-20, 07:47 AM

I use the NvidiaProfileInspector to override my in game settings. My display is beautiful.
Now that you are going down the rabbit hole with the rest of us, be aware that in game FPS must be limited to 30 FPS in order to avoid the Celestial Sphere out of sync issue.

I use the Vertical Sync tools in NvidiaProfileInspector set to vertical sync rate 1/4 Refresh Rate.
I am using an ASUS Gaming Monitor set to 1920x1080 @ 144Hz monitor. My in game graphics are set to 1920X1080 @120 so 1/4 refresh rate is 30 FPS.

If you are interested, please read my thread on Base Time 2018 which is an examination of this issue.

PM me if you need further explanation.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=239188

Galanti

09-29-21, 09:21 AM

Does anybody have a primer on how to force a custom resolution for SH4?

Kal_Maximus_U669

09-29-21, 11:45 AM

Does anybody have a primer on how to force a custom resolution for SH4?
:Kaleun_Wink:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/39/3/1632933707-capture.png
go see the description of Front Runner which is very interesting, moreover, it should be put more forward here because it seems to me that it is very important and we are not aware of it ....
:Kaleun_Wink:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2581567&postcount=8

propbeanie

09-29-21, 12:11 PM

The Game / Data / Cfg folder holds the Main.cfg, which has the game's resolution, as the game first starts. Once you have been playing and the game has created a Save folder, then you will find that same info in the Save folder, generally "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 \ data \cfg \main.cfg". You can change the settings in there and "force" the game to that. However, you will have a "stretched" display, and the amount of the stretch depend upon how close you are to a pre-defined setting from the Graphic Settings in the game itself. If something in the game settings is close to what your screen is, you can use the "Windowed" mode of the game, and use the smaller resolution available in the game. If you are attempting something like a 4k resolution, you would most likely be better served with a divisible of the 4k resolution, such as a 1920x1080 setting in the game. The game was built for a 1024x768 resolution, so if you go much higher than that 1920x1080 resolution, your text size will suffer, or rather, your eyes will suffer from the tiny text.

Red Devil

07-04-22, 10:13 AM

I tried the link rubini to nhancer, it says no such site???

Fubar2Niner

07-04-22, 02:40 PM

I tried the link rubini to nhancer, it says no such site???

Here for Nvidia Inspector:

https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProfileInspector/releases/tag/2.3.0.13

Then d/l my *.nip file and use NI to import it.

Nip file here:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/o7egd805h09j55r/Not_going_to_get_better_than_this_Silent_Hunter_II I.nip/file

Good luck, any probs hoot!

Fube

Red Devil

07-05-22, 08:26 AM

thanks both links work but need to study them first

buksik

05-06-24, 01:37 AM

Here for Nvidia Inspector:

https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProfileInspector/releases/tag/2.3.0.13

Then d/l my *.nip file and use NI to import it.

Nip file here:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/o7egd805h09j55r/Not_going_to_get_better_than_this_Silent_Hunter_II I.nip/file

Good luck, any probs hoot!

Fube

Thanks works for me too. Tried few, these are good. Just turned on VSYNC (sh3) and played with ctr + shift + pg up / down for bloom? settings.