I swear they could make a movie out of this stuff

[Ducimus]

Like the Sixth patrol of the Grenadier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grenadier_(SS-210)) for example.

[Sailor Steve]

Oh, yeah. I would love to see a new version of Silent Service; a TV show with each episode telling the story of a different patrol, even the boring ones.

Maybe it could inspire a German version, with the stories of the real u-boat crews. Or the British. Dutch? Japanese?

[Ducimus]

I have to admit, im starting to get curious about the brits. They saw action in many theaters, faced the same hardships, their story is relatively unknown, and also have the added perk of being on our side of the war! :rotfl:

edit: come to think of it, that would probably have made an awesome expansion to SH4. *shrug* oh well.

[Sailor Steve]

Either buy or see if your library has Padfield's book.
http://www.amazon.com/War-Beneath-Sea-Submarine-Conflict/dp/0471249459

It does a nice job of covering all the major patrols.

[shoot-kill-win]

At the Batfish, they actually have the Batfish's "Silent Service" episode, it is great because they filmed the show on actual diesel boats.

[Mush Martin]

They could make about eighty or a hundred excellant dramatic films
out of this stuff and about two hundred not so bad dramas.
even a few comedies.
it reads better than fiction most months of the war
M

[swdw]

Like the Sixth patrol of the Grenadier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grenadier_%28SS-210%29) for example.
Reading that I smiled at this one on the fifth patrol.
" With binoculars lashed to the deck guns as sights, she raked tanker and barge sinking them immediately."

Anyone want to try THAT deck gun mod?

[Mush Martin]

did with the after deckgun on my shIII boat it had no sights
I got pretty good with it too

[seafarer]

This is one of the most amazing accounts, IMO.

The USS Parche - http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08384.htm (see the 4th picture down, the "I got Mad..." oil on canvas).

Parche (SS-384) achieved fame on July 31, 1944. Her skipper, Lawson P. ("Red") Ramage, had worked his way into the middle of a Japanese convoy in the pre-dawn hours of that morning, and soon had his hands full with a very busy day.
Firing two torpedoes at one of the ships, Ramage realised that its evasive manouevering had given him a chance at shots at two tankers and a Japanese Naval escort. Firing no less than eight torpedoes in quick succession, from both stern and bow tubes, he took care of both tankers. Mayhem ensued !
The convoy started to break up, escorts dashed in all directions, and firing at the rogue sub. came from every-which-where ! For a full forty-five minutes, on the surface, with only himself and his executive officer on the conning tower, Ramage used the big fleet submarine like a PT boat. One can only imagine what it was like to be working in the engine room or the torpedo rooms of Parche during the action ! At one point, she narrowly avoided being rammed, and passed a Japanese vessel going in the opposite direction a mere fifty feet away ! So close that Ramage and his exec. exchanged enraged insults and gestures with the equally enraged Japanese crew !
Eventually the unharmed submarine was able to disengage and slip away into the early morning darkness. Behind him, "Red" Ramage left two confirmed sinkings totalling 15000 tons, several more thousand tons of damaged merchant and naval shipping, a broken convoy that was in total disarray and still firing at itself and, in conjunction with Steelhead (SS-280) - which was also in the vicinity - assisted in the sinking of three more ships ! A remarkable performance - and a thundering good yarn !
Later, when interviewed about the exploit, Commander Ramage expressed his motivation at the time .... "...I got mad ... !" he said.
For getting mad, Ramage was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, and Parche received a Presidential Citation.

[Ducimus]

Wow, i never heard of that one before. I used to think the Gibralter scene in Das Boot when the uboat commander was on the bridge with the shells flying around was a real breathtaker. I think i just changed my mind. This had to be one hell of a scene, with truth stranger the fiction, no doubt about that.

[FIREWALL]

[quote=Sailor Steve]Oh, yeah. I would love to see a new version of Silent Service; a TV show with each episode telling the story of a different patrol, even the boring ones.

That's one of the better ideas I've seen in along time SS :up:

If the Writers ever come off strike ,but you know how they'de do with your idea?

Something between McHales Navy and Hogans heros. :damn: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

"Later, when interviewed about the exploit, Commander Ramage expressed his motivation at the time .... "...I got mad ... !" he said.
For getting mad, Ramage was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, and Parche received a Presidential Citation. "

That totally rocks!!! :rock: :rock: :rock:

Good stuff!!!

[tater]

Reading "War in the Boats" (awesome, BTW), it occurred to me the other night that Munson's last patrol as skipper of Crevalle would be a great movie. It wasn't a fantastic patrol, but it has a lot of drama and personal interest.

Munson is starting to crack, basically. He's acting sort of bipolar. When he's on the ball, he's amazingly aggressive, then he'll blow off following up. At one point, 2 of his officers (including Crevalle's next skipper, Walker) are talking about the fact they should follow the cripples of their last, agressive surface atatck and finish them off, and something is wrong with the skipper... and Munson is right there in the same room in the shadows. He tells them if they want to take over his command, go ahead. He means it sarcastically, but Walker goes ahead and does! There is a threat by Munson to court martial them for mutiny, but in the end he commends them for taking over when he was burned out and they feel like heels.

Also, they end up rescuing guerillas on RTB, including 11 women, and 17 kids. Loads of stuff going on for a movie to make it more generally popular than a grognard sub movie, ya know?

tater

[AVGWarhawk]

Just the three sinkings of Japanese submarines by the Batfish could make a very "on the edge of your seat" movie. I have read this chapter in Final Patrol many times. Truely a nail bitter.

[AVGWarhawk]

At one point, she narrowly avoided being rammed, and passed a Japanese vessel going in the opposite direction a mere fifty feet away ! So close that Ramage and his exec. exchanged enraged insults and gestures with the equally enraged Japanese crew !


These guys had a very large set of balls!!!!!!! I would have loved to witness that exchange!!!

[Sailor Steve]

Reading "War in the Boats" (awesome, BTW), it occurred to me the other night that Munson's last patrol as skipper of Crevalle would be a great movie. It wasn't a fantastic patrol, but it has a lot of drama and personal interest.

Munson is starting to crack, basically. He's acting sort of bipolar. When he's on the ball, he's amazingly aggressive, then he'll blow off following up. At one point, 2 of his officers (including Crevalle's next skipper, Walker) are talking about the fact they should follow the cripples of their last, agressive surface atatck and finish them off, and something is wrong with the skipper... and Munson is right there in the same room in the shadows. He tells them if they want to take over his command, go ahead. He means it sarcastically, but Walker goes ahead and does! There is a threat by Munson to court martial them for mutiny, but in the end he commends them for taking over when he was burned out and they feel like heels.

Also, they end up rescuing guerillas on RTB, including 11 women, and 17 kids. Loads of stuff going on for a movie to make it more generally popular than a grognard sub movie, ya know?

tater
I love it.

But who'd believe it?

[Ducimus]

Anyone know of a good online source for patrol reports? Im always looking, but never find more then a tidbit here or there.

[AVGWarhawk]

Can not get them online as far as I know. I do know they have been put on disc and the cost is quite high to get the set.

Look here:

http://www.usssealion.com/NSL/war_patrols.htm

Only $4900.00 to get you started! As I can see the Torsk has a full set. Any boat in particular you are looking for?

[tater]

My mistake, the refugees were on Walker's first patrol, right after he relieved Munson (just reread that section). Crevalle's special mission on the 2d patrol (Minson's last) was mining Saigon. She went up river a ways on the surface, dodging boats. There was runoff, so because of the current they were way behind schedule (making little headway submerged during the day due to the current). As a result, they barely scraped out by dawn.

[seafarer]

There is this site (http://www.esryle.com/coblinks/links/PATROLREPORTS.html)

While not online, they are all available from the Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum (http://www.aimm.museum/Library/Patrol_Reports.htm)

[Ducimus]

There is this site (http://www.esryle.com/coblinks/links/PATROLREPORTS.html)

That just got bookmarked, thanks!

[AVGWarhawk]

Hey...that is a nice site!

[Doolittle81]

Oh, yeah. I would love to see a new version of Silent Service; a TV show with each episode telling the story of a different patrol, even the boring ones.

Maybe it could inspire a German version, with the stories of the real u-boat crews. Or the British. Dutch? Japanese?

You mean this Silent Service show: Silent Service (http://files.filefront.com/Silent+Service+IntroDecBylavi/;9418433;/fileinfo.html) :D

[Sailor Steve]

Yop. Dat be de one.:rock:

The closing credits, as I remember, had the same viewpoint as the submarine dove.

And check out some of the cast:
Russell Johnson - later 'The Professor' on Gilligan's Island
DeForrest Kelly - later 'Bones' on Star Trek
Leonard Nimoy - later 'Spock' on Star Trek
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050061/