Under Running Torpedoes

[AVGWarhawk]

All here who hate under running torpedoes all say 'aye'. :damn: 1941, S-Class, sticking my neck out in the Luzon. Warships abound. Boat full of deep swimmers:down: Where is the Admiral? I got a bone to pick:nope:. One lousy sinking. 48 days at sea in my slug of a sugarboat. Nothing worse than hearing you torp go 'glunk' on the side of a vessel. Should have joined the air force.

[ReallyDedPoet]

All here who hate under running torpedoes all say 'aye'. :damn: 1941, S-Class, sticking my neck out in the Luzon. Warships abound. Boat full of deep swimmers:down: Where is the Admiral? I got a bone to pick:nope:. One lousy sinking. 48 days at sea in my slug of a sugarboat. Should have joined the air force.

Yeah I was reading up on this the other night AVG, early on torps were a nightmare :eek::eek:


RDP

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Yes, I know the feeling. I'd rather be strapped into a Hurricane Mk IID armed with a pair of 40mm cannon and strafe the living daylights out of the ships. Those early skippers must've cursed everything under the sun at those torps.

[SteamWake]

All here who hate under running torpedoes all say 'aye'. :damn: 1941, S-Class, sticking my neck out in the Luzon. Warships abound. Boat full of deep swimmers:down: Where is the Admiral? I got a bone to pick:nope:. One lousy sinking. 48 days at sea in my slug of a sugarboat. Nothing worse than hearing you torp go 'glunk' on the side of a vessel. Should have joined the air force.

Ooof tough patrol. Better luck next time :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

All here who hate under running torpedoes all say 'aye'. :damn: 1941, S-Class, sticking my neck out in the Luzon. Warships abound. Boat full of deep swimmers:down: Where is the Admiral? I got a bone to pick:nope:. One lousy sinking. 48 days at sea in my slug of a sugarboat. Nothing worse than hearing you torp go 'glunk' on the side of a vessel. Should have joined the air force.
Ooof tough patrol. Better luck next time :up:

As a result of questioning the Admiral aggressively, I'm now peeling potatos in the brig:shifty:

[tater]

Done right, they should always run ~4ft deep.

[AVGWarhawk]

Done right, they should always run ~4ft deep.

RUN!!! IT'S THE ADMIRAL!!!!!!:eek::eek: NO, THEY ARE NOT BROKEN SKIPPER....YOU ARE BROKEN....NOW GET BACK OUT THERE AND SINK A SHIP!!!!!

I set them to as shallow as it will allow and I get under runners. Oh well, word has it they get better in 43'.

[TheSatyr]

I had a rather bad experience with under runners. Was patrolling the Luzon Strait in an S-Boat,ran into a 2 DD patrol,had a perfect set up on the DDs and fired 2 torps at each DD. 2 Torps hit the first DD and she blew up and the 2 torps fired at the other DD were under runners.

Unfortunately for me,the second DD picked me up on sonar immediately and his first DC run was a thing of beauty. He had a perfect drop and sunk me. I didn't know whether to applaud or scream at him. :lol:

Both DDs were Fubuki class and all the torps were set at the same depth,so I just had some bad luck with the last 2 torps.

[AVGWarhawk]

This was last nights patrol. 1200 yards off. DD had his port side to me. Perfect shot, 90 degrees off my bow. The DD saw my torp wake but the first torp should have clipped him. It under ran. The DD speed up and cut hard to starboard. Believe it or not, he cut hard and fast enough to present his starboard side to my three other torps coming at him. They all under ran him :damn::damn: Come on....what luck to have the 3 of the four still coming to hit him on the complete opposite side!!! I smiling like a kid in a candy store up to the point they all under ran:cry:

[TheSatyr]

I know what you mean. The first torp that under ran would have hit right between the stacks. He started turning to port,but my second torp went right under his bridge. Then he goes to full speed,turns to starboard,starts pinging me hard and turns my sub into an artificial reef.:rotfl:

[TheSatyr]

Even with the stock game I still find myself surprised alot with some of the reactions of escorts in the game. Some are dumb as rocks,others are masters at their craft. Rather realistic if you ask me.

[AVGWarhawk]

Even with the stock game I still find myself surprised alot with some of the reactions of escorts in the game. Some are dumb as rocks,others are masters at their craft. Rather realistic if you ask me.


Funny you say that because day one when I played (vanilla) I experience the same thing. All said they all suck. I use RFB now with Petos Longer Evasion mod. Some are great and some are dumb. Then there are others that are hell recarnated.

[TheSatyr]

I never understood all the complaints about the Stock Escort AI. I always found the Escorts to have fairly realistic behavior. You have the bums and the killers and since 1.04 I'm running into more killers than bums.

My only complaint is that SH4 needs more ship models,especially the later war Japanese escorts. I wouldn't mind seeing the Nautilus and Narwhal either...but then they were only used for normal patrols in the early part of the war. They spent most of their wartime careers running special missions.

[Ducimus]

Done right, they should always run ~4ft deep.

In TM, even if you set the torpedo to the shallowest possible depth, you still have a chance of having the torpedo run right under the keel of most any ship. (aren't i a mean SOB? :p )

[TheSatyr]

I think MkXIVs should be completely random when it comes to depth keeping. When they did the net tests those things were all over the place. From being off by a few feet to being off by 20ft or more. They just came up with the 10ft difference as an average.

It never pays to do Official BuOrd torpedo depth running tests with dummy warheads that are alot lighter than real warheads,but then that's the Military for you.

[Quillan]

I started up a 1941 career with the 1.4 patch a couple of days ago, my first since that patch came out. So far, I've fired 6 torpedoes, all set for minimum possible depth. 2 have run under the target, 2 have bounced off, 1 missed entirely, and 1 exploded like it was supposed to.

[AVGWarhawk]

I started up a 1941 career with the 1.4 patch a couple of days ago, my first since that patch came out. So far, I've fired 6 torpedoes, all set for minimum possible depth. 2 have run under the target, 2 have bounced off, 1 missed entirely, and 1 exploded like it was supposed to.
Not to much faith in the engineers during 1941 or 42 for that matter:roll:. Makes the game a bit exciting and realistic also. I like it myself but it does get frustrating watching the big fish get away.

[Ducimus]

>>I like it myself but it does get frustrating watching the big fish get away.

Look at the bright side, it keeps your tonnage scores at a more realistic level. This way, when you eventually pass up the top earners, you can feel a little more that you actually earned it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Very true Duci, very true. My first patrol in the S and bagged one. I was happy. Coming home with 100000 tons get old real fast. I like to earn it!

[CaptJodan]

>>I like it myself but it does get frustrating watching the big fish get away.

Look at the bright side, it keeps your tonnage scores at a more realistic level. This way, when you eventually pass up the top earners, you can feel a little more that you actually earned it.

Recently downloaded RSRD so I could experience a marked drop in contacts (from the beginning I always thought the japanese navy had a rediculous amount of ships at its command) and restarted my campaign to take it from the beginning again.

Needless to say it took a lot longer to get above the other aces (though I am still doing surprisingly better than I thought I would).

If it isn't an under-runner, it's a dud. I tell you, it drives me insane sometimes when you've lined yourself up perfectly and fire a torpedo only to have it clang off the hull. I've taken to shooting my contact torpedoes at bad angles to try and minimize crushing the contact pistol, but honestly I don't know if the game models that effectively. Too steep an angle, and it's going to be a dud.

Plus, now that the freighters evade when they see your first fish, it gets a lot harder to set up for a second try. I've got to survive into 43. Hopefully it's better there.

[LobsterBoy]

First patrol in a new career, USS Tambor in Dec. '41.

It took me 8 torpedoes to sink a 2500 ton Maru. Five were under-runners and 2 were duds.

Let's just say I won't have to worry about running out of fuel on this patrol :88)

[Bale]

and the best is if you catched a convoy, send a contact report and the answer from command is "destroy the escorts" ... a horror-scenario everytime for me :o

[Quillan]

Continued that career tonight, same patrol, fired 13 more torpedoes. I found 2 large European composite frieighters running solo at separate times, fired 3 torps at each. Probably due to their high draft, nothing ran under. Both times, 2 detonated and 1 bounced. I also found a medium European split freighter. I fired two at it, one of which bounced, then followed it up with a third that detonated. Later, while heading back in, I stumbled across a small task force with a huge European liner escorted by 4 destroyers. I fired 4 torpedoes at it. All four hit, 2 bounced. So, out of 19 torpedoes fired, I've had 9 detonations, 2 run deep, 7 duds that bounced off, and one outright miss. Gotta love 1941. To top it off, that liner got away, only to sink later on when I was nowhere near it, so I didn't get credit. Oh well, I still pulled in 22k tons on that patrol.